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Author Topic: Running Adams Motor - 6 pole Alternating Polarity  (Read 6363 times)

Offline floodrod

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Re: Running Adams Motor - 6 pole Alternating Polarity
« Reply #75 on: April 13, 2022, 02:23:23 AM »
A few weeks ago I wanted to build a legitimate Adams Motor as close to the original specs as I possibly could. But as usual, I started then got off track. 

I started with some practice builds before I used all the parts I ordered for the "Correct Build".  In my practice builds, I never tested generator coils, only got the motor running with and without a commutator.  But now is the time I do the "Correct Build"..

Magnets- following the 4 to 1 length recommended ratio, I am using 2" long by 1/2" x 1/2" N42 Neo's. 

Driver Coils-  They call for the cores to be 1/2 the diameter as the magnets and be between 10-20 ohms. SO I am using 14 Ohm coils with 6mm cores.

Polarity-  As Adams states, all the magnets will be the same polarity.

Timing- I will start with hall sensor, and possibly transfer to commutator later.

Generator Coils-  Not sure yet..  I do not have them.  I am considering using  the exact same driver coils as the generator, totaling 6 coils.  (2 drivers 4 collectors).  But this would deviate from the original design as the generator coils are supposed to be larger than the drivers..  I am willing to hear people's opinions on this.

So far, the build is coming out excellent in my opinion.  You can see the basic parts in the pic- and the last support that braces the black coil holder is almost finished printing. 

In a few days time I should be posting a video of it running

Offline captainpecan

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Re: Running Adams Motor - 6 pole Alternating Polarity
« Reply #76 on: April 13, 2022, 11:31:39 PM »
Looking good. When I did my adams build, I kept it as close to possible to his instructions. I really cant recommend any changes because you have the ability to 3D print and make a much more accurate build than I did. Personally, I feel I could have done better using a thinner wire for my motor coils. I used 22 guage at the time. I also didn't try many different options on the Gen coils before I drifted to another design and went air core on mine. Whatever direction you choose to move in, I'll be following to see what we can learn from it. I sure could use some of that skill and equipment you have for those nice looking builds. Keep it up!
Also, what is your plan for those 2 little coils pictured? I've got 9 of those exact coils and I've been keeping them in the back of my mind for a good way to use them.

Offline floodrod

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Re: Running Adams Motor - 6 pole Alternating Polarity
« Reply #77 on: April 14, 2022, 01:34:33 AM »
Looking good. When I did my adams build, I kept it as close to possible to his instructions. I really cant recommend any changes because you have the ability to 3D print and make a much more accurate build than I did. Personally, I feel I could have done better using a thinner wire for my motor coils. I used 22 guage at the time. I also didn't try many different options on the Gen coils before I drifted to another design and went air core on mine. Whatever direction you choose to move in, I'll be following to see what we can learn from it. I sure could use some of that skill and equipment you have for those nice looking builds. Keep it up!
Also, what is your plan for those 2 little coils pictured? I've got 9 of those exact coils and I've been keeping them in the back of my mind for a good way to use them.

Thanks Cap...

Those coils will be the driver coils. I ohm'd them out at 11 ohms.  and the cores are approximately 1/2 the size of the magnets like adam's plan says.

I will finish this, but just like you, I am always switching ideas. LOL..  Even when I say I will stay on track, I wander. Even now I put together a new idea in my head that is way too intriguing not to test right away..  Since this next one is a pretty simple build to test, I am going to squeeze it in while finishing the Adams.  If it shows any promise, I will show ya :)

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Re: Running Adams Motor - 6 pole Alternating Polarity
« Reply #78 on: April 14, 2022, 03:19:12 AM »
Lol... its hard to keep from getting side tracked. Especially when it's one of those odd yet easy to test ideas that just dig at you until you try it... good luck!

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Re: Running Adams Motor - 6 pole Alternating Polarity
« Reply #79 on: April 14, 2022, 04:29:43 AM »
Hello,
Reply #75

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die Grundlage der allgemeinen Relativitätstheorie im gleichnamigen Aufsatz: Die Grundlage der allgemeinen Relativitätstheorie, Annalen der Physik 354, S. 769 ff, 1916[9]


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Re: Running Adams Motor - 6 pole Alternating Polarity
« Reply #80 on: April 15, 2022, 01:01:40 AM »
I will be shelfing my Adam's motor builds for now, but wanted to give the last update.

I got the final build running as close to proper specs as I could.  (besides generator coils).  Turns out my makeshift practice builds worked much better than the actual attempt.   

You can see it running here-  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy_nVNwz4sA

I am not sold on the low amperage / High Ohm driver coils.   I do think high ohm collector / generator coils have advantages, but from what I experienced to date, everything I've built with LARGE diameter copper coils as drivers ran way quicker and stronger with less input wattage than thin wire coils.

I am still intrigued by the Adam's motor idea and perhaps I will revisit it in the future. 


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Re: Running Adams Motor - 6 pole Alternating Polarity
« Reply #81 on: April 15, 2022, 04:46:37 AM »
I kind of wondered if it would turn out that way. It's great learning experience. I was not real happy with mine either. I actually did better when i used air core. But most all of my simple pulse motors have performed better since that build. You can get better performance out of thinner wire than that provided you for sure though. My current build is high turn, high ohm, thin coils. I'll keep sharing in there so you can see the results of me going down that road. I'll keep watching for your work with generator coils as well. I'll be posting as I go too. Thanks for sharing your work!

PS.. Thanks for posting that this last build didn't work well for you. Its all learning for all of us. So many leave that part out and just stop so all future readers wonder what the results were.

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Re: Running Adams Motor - 6 pole Alternating Polarity
« Reply #82 on: April 15, 2022, 09:40:40 AM »
Why are you stuck on a flat 2D model ?
In two dimensions one cannot achieve asymmetry in a circular cycle.
Maybe use the third dimension?