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Author Topic: Builders investigation into “Things that Spin with gain “ ( and other….  (Read 906 times)

Offline ramset

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For UFO or ??


@ UFO politics posted a build suggestion for testing an effect
Post 189 here https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg565095/#new



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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #189 on: Today at 03:51:32 PM »


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A VERY SIMPLE TEST TO DO...





I have recommended to Floor (and to anyone who wants to do it) to conduct a simple test to verify the difference whenever we rotate just the DC Magnetic Fields, since He asked if there was a simple way to check this out.


All you need is a Universal Motor: Which is a brushed armature with wound stators...and you could find them in several tools, like hand ac drills, Dremel and Ryobi small hand tool, Vacuum cleaners motors, etc,etc...


Then you need to get the same exact commutator number of plates as your chosen motor...or could be double, say a 16 plates could work with a 32 commutator elements, by joining 2 plates you have a 16 plates comm.


Then, a very small motor, you will have to build a base mount with continuous slip rings, typically found in car alternators, and brushes mounted to run on the 16 plates comm and the slip rings.


Solder all 16 wires remotely from universal rotor to your small motor base commutator, keeping same positioning as in the motor....


Secure the Universal rotor firmly inside its stator...and run power to slip rings while spinning small motor...your output would be out of the universal motor stator.


Start applying smaller voltages first, while spinning slowly...Scope your two signals, Input to Rotor, Output from Stator.




And that's it...check out how it behaves at low and at higher speeds while increasing power.


You will just need two PSU's:


1- To  run small motor, maybe 5-10V 1-2 A
2- To feed power to Rotor through brushes, normally these motors I mentioned above work with 120V and will get to high RPM's...so, you could go that high with PSU...


Note the rotor will get hot, since its built in fan would not be turning, so, keep measuring temp. not to burn it.


A small cylindrical magnet mounted on a shaft, could have a fan installed and will spin freely, just by fields rotation, without needing any power to it...and it will cool your stationary rotor.


Also, you could apply AC Power to stationary rotor and see the difference for yourself in the output...versus DC Power feed. And you could use your same PSU, with a Diode AC/DC Bridge to regulate your AC Power to Rotor.


Simple Test Guys...and the best way to know for yourself if this works or not, is by getting at least this simple test done...




Not using several relays, Not complicated Logic Circuits, no MOSFET's, no Transformers...simple and easy to the point test.

Edit to add below from post # 195
Here https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg565099/#new


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Here are the simple schematics for that test connections and structure...for sake of simplicity to understand it, I did not add any mountings nor base stands


Brushed Symmetrical Motors Armatures are wound by series coils in a close loop with a derivation to each commutator element solder contact...So, +/- Brushes divides the whole armature in two (for two brushed motors) so, it divides Rotor in a perfect Half with N/S Magnetic Field set at 180 degrees apart.


So, if we just rotate the feeding +/- brushes to the armature static coils through this remote setup with the small motor on the right, we will be spinning just the DC Magnetic Field of the Rotor within the stator...


Your Stator would be your output


 Your Rotor would be your Input


These I/O could be measured in a Scope The Input for the small motor needs to be isolated from a second PSU, small power, maybe 5V and max 2A...
I used a Flat type commutator as the fixed one where brushes spin, since it is more secure at higher speeds,as it will not loosen contacts by gravitational forces pushing brushes away...


You could also "beef up" your Stator with thicker wire and more turns...for higher output levels...or get a full 360º wound stator from another AC Induction motor of same inner diameter as your rotor...so there will not be a too wide air gap...
It is a very "interesting test"...


Schematics from post (# 195)
https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/dlattach/attach/186226/

Cheers





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« Last Edit: March 28, 2022, 07:51:56 PM by ramset »

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Hello Ramset,


I have asked Stefan by mail to get me a Builder's Thread on this matter...where I moderate.


So I keep cleaning all noise and crap...and there is a lot Bro!!




Regards




Ufopolitics





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It should be possible to open new topic at your moderated section until he
Gets time ?


Thanks for offering your build suggestions
IMO It is imperative that persons who build and share have nurturing environment !

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I see comment below
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Thanks!!









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Sorry, Chet, but this has nothing to do with Luling Magnet Motor...


As I do not want to confuse builders over there...


I have taken the time to go over this topic again, in order just to help others to experiment with these type of fields...after they know what they are playing with...I will be out and back to my other thread.




Regards




Ufopolitics