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Title: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: FreeEnergy on March 15, 2022, 11:59:07 PM

Please watch this video, very important.

https://youtu.be/aqKfSbhm6yo
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: lancaIV on March 16, 2022, 10:13:18 AM
https://carnegieendowment.org/2012/03/09/underachiever-ukraine-s-economy-since-1991-pub-47451 (https://carnegieendowment.org/2012/03/09/underachiever-ukraine-s-economy-since-1991-pub-47451)
A social and financial bancrupt estate,soon before 2022 !
                                                                    R&D : solution ?
                                                         outer concurrence, ancient or actual opponent,enemy ?

                                                        Our,"Our" (making part of : ?) enemy !?
                              if two quarrel :East/West , a third is happy (case : Poland,Ucraine,Lithunania,Balticum), maybe
            Poland and Ucraine gains per annum by gas/oil transit tributation per annum Northstream1,2(their capacity per hour)   
                               
                                     new germans provider/consumer tribute free alternative :     Northstream 3 ,the capacity ?

padrak.com Vespeman : Kiev,Sovjet scientifical center (not Ucraine,the total USSR,from elsewhere,included international co-work),-1990

             patent time validity,eastern scientists emigration to the western,scientists "lure away"(high-tech labs,salary,"democracy")

          In the eastern E.U. Vizegrad and Bulgaria/Romenia estates there are "double game player",self-and/or foreign- organized !
Reorganisation from council VETO-instrument,MORATORIUM-tool,as part from Maastricht E.U.-Contract !

                      Some abuse N.A.T.O. (with VETO-tool : unisono or nobody ! )and E.U. constitutional philosophy ,even in the old E.U. of the 15 and E.G. !

 You ,SYNDICATE-Members,are playing an Western/Eastern = North Planet hemisphere game,
the Hemisphere South,up to Mare Mediterranum south coast , is hell-awake : and waiting !

And the ARMY is growing day by day !
                                             Not IS,MI in progress , M.= Mundo I.=I'slamic : Verheissung/Hingabe/Diakonie

                                                                                      de-vot sein
                                                     lateinisch (https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/lateinisch) dēvōtus (https://de.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=d%C4%93v%C5%8Dtus&action=edit&redlink=1) → la (https://la.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:Search/d%C4%93v%C5%8Dtus) „zu eigen (https://de.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=zu_eigen&action=edit&redlink=1), ergeben (https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/ergeben), gottergeben (https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/gottergeben), fromm (https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/fromm)“
                                                           Latin dēvōtus → la "to own, devoted, devoted to God, pious"


                                                           but hyper-C'oran (written and spoken laws today and ancient)                                       

                                                            IS to MI to MD

                                                           Russia ' Z' : eschatological ? 8) to : AI/A1  ;) or OI/O1 


                                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AAk_CaU6xY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AAk_CaU6xY)
                                                 
                                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru5JL_r-v3A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru5JL_r-v3A)

       https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Stoa?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Stoa?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)
                                                     

                                                                   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animism)
                                                                              Aristoteles :

                                                                                  animus

                                                                             anima  anima-lis

                                                                            bestia bestia-lis
 
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 16, 2022, 02:13:07 PM

Hello,

Unfortunately, "We the People" do NOT RULE jack Sh*t...only some individuals, egomaniacs do...and make all possible tricks to REMAIN IN POWER for their LIFE TIME...and that is called DICTATORSHIP, period!!


Ukraine is a DEMOCRACY, where each President have a specific timing to rule...4, 5 years...or a second term if re-elected..


Rusia is a Dictatorship...Putin has tricked his ways into staying in power until 2035...imagine that?


SO, "THE CHOICE" IS VERY SIMPLE!! 

At least for ME!!



That is a FULL 180º DIFFERENCE between Ukraine and Russia!! So, NOPE, it is not "the people" or the SHEEPLE...it is "the Individual", PLUS ALL his administration of PUPPETS and CLOWNS behind them!!That Video renders "Ambiguity"...by claiming to be "on the side of the sheeple"...sorry, the people I meant...


I bet You, anything you wish....this guy was and still is a Trump Supporter!! And Trump has been the worst Psycopath President USA ever had!! And a Clown!!


First Trump's words that came off his filthy mouth, after Putin had INVADED Ukraine were:

"Putin is a genius!!...a savvy of what he is doing...and We must do the same thing in our Southern Border"...


Guy is a disgusting MF and a CLOWN!!

And He belongs in JAIL!!


Respectfully




Ufopolitics
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 16, 2022, 02:28:07 PM
The Russia and Ukraine is simply a very BLACK and WHITE issue.


And frankly, I do not NEED to watch any "video" from absolutely ANYONE, in order to "make my own freaking mind" about "who should I choose"?


That seems PATHETIC!!

And YES, Putin is a DICTATOR, a guy who has "fixed" Russian Constitution in order to stay in power for ever and ever...and that, Ladies and Gents...is simply called DICTATORSHIP.


And Russia has INVADED, OCCUPIED Ukraine against their own will or decision...but just a  few "separatists" who have being paid by putin...plus many other ways for MANY YEARS even inside Ukraine Corporations (basically related to Oil and Gas) that putin has introduced his Oligarchs as "Great Donors" and automatically become "a VIP" of that company-corp...


So, the decision, at least, my choice is VERY SIMPLE...

I  AM WITH UKRAINE!!, HIS PEOPLE AND MAINLY HIS MAIN LEADER, VOLODOMIR ZELENSKY!!!

We have NEVER, EVER, seen such a Courage in ANY FREAKING President in the ENTIRE WORLD MODERN HISTORY!!!

A Russian Soldier, fighting, bombing, shelling in Ukraine, and KILLING CIVILIANS, PREGNANT WOMEN, CHILDREN is part of the People of Russia...they are OBEDIENT to a DICTATOR, and a PSYCOPATH!!


Something "very similar", almost same sh*t, happened with "The Führer, Hitler" back in 1933...and He brought WWII...
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Ufopolitics on March 16, 2022, 03:17:05 PM
What We ALL really need to do is to WAKE UP!!!

by learning how to EASILY IDENTIFY ALL these Mother Fkers...WHEREVER part of the WORLD they would be...

Putin Dictatorship is based on PURE LIES!!

And whoever, disagrees with him would be thrown in Jail, (as best result or "happy ending")...or POISONED, like He tried to do to Alexey Navalny...but was saved in UK...However, now he is rottening in a Russian Jail...

Putin's Lies Propaganda Machine has grown up all over Russia...TV Private Chanels who has published anything against the Dictator have been Censured, closed...

The Concern is always with the Sheeple who voted for such arse hole...just because they believed his Hot Blow up Speeches...

Just the simple "hesitation" by being "undecided" who do we "select" as our Leader in any Democracy is simply VERY DANGEROUS!!!

IT COULD BRING THE WORLD INTO AN END...
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: lancaIV on March 16, 2022, 04:10:52 PM
To many points : YES,but ....  ! and also No,but ....!

I am not Ucrainian nor Russia citizen/nation member !
I can only emphaize from far the several points of view by me from received information,before Putin/Selenskyj time to actual situation !

Russian does not mean Sovjet,this some misunderstand !
Rus means,russian and ucrainian,yes -but it is like that a Quebequien in Canada,francophonic would be defined for same as a French,without to differ the north-french and the Okzitanier in the french south ,in FR two languages in one country minimum,more Breton/Normann/Alsacienne et cet. !
https://www.optilingo.com/blog/russian/differences-between-russian-ukranian/ (https://www.optilingo.com/blog/russian/differences-between-russian-ukranian/)

More less one decade before the french governmental administration demanded all the transformation from anglophonic expressions to francophonic equality !
The media scene was surprised,took this decision with irony,resisted the governmental trial : political desaster !
But anglais/english is not France-national first language,it is an international conversation tool !


The political error in Ucraine ,as same a disaster like in France,but now as "hot rebellion (reazon part):

the estate administration demanded circa 2 years before the solely use from the "ucrainian language" ,an affront against the majority inhabitants in Luhansk and Donezk !
policy of pinpricks   to      politics of the psycho-raping bazooka

"Putin" as Wladimir ..Putin ,as private person, I differ from his political responsibility as RF RUSSIA PRESIDENT,for all russian people safety to warrant,inside and outside Russia border !
In the U.S.A. the political view not "as same " ? Warrant to all U.S.-americans,inside and outside border  !

Democracy ? The one "Yes !" the other "No(t)!" ,because .... ,beginning with this comparation !?


Critizising and judging is possible by classical anti-/thesis definiton and facts/arguments sampling,this is the systematic in tribunals !History analysis,artefacts analysis,testemonials analysis and soft/hard facts erruation !
It is not our work to do this work,what professionals have to do,they are paid for this work,this obligation,saecular-profan diaconical must !
https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Metamorphoses?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://en-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Metamorphoses?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)

when these professionals,over the time ,look back what they did or not,they will probably remark many "dis-placements" to
                                           should and have
https://www-microtech-de.translate.goog/erp-wiki/soll-und-haben/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://www-microtech-de.translate.goog/erp-wiki/soll-und-haben/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)
                                                                        Constitution accounting : theory and practizising

Our western justice system is a political group entertainment establishment,where clients are buyed/sold out by "lottery",the rituals/Liturgy fixed,only different charakters/actors(passive/active).
For at first BR Deutschland old,without G.D.R.,later both integrated !https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/kolumne-von-thomas-fischer-das-ende-ist-nahe-a-9663ad0c-ebe3-4742-8dae-893ef92759a2 (https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/kolumne-von-thomas-fischer-das-ende-ist-nahe-a-9663ad0c-ebe3-4742-8dae-893ef92759a2)
                                                              WITNESS,Co-ACTOR as judge

 Roman Herzog ? From Constitutional Court later President from Estate !

The religion/churches administration : not knowing about Estates folk/Volk exploitation ? Richard von Weizsaecker ?


State people treason , breach of the peace , ..... in the western estates : E.U.,U.S.A.,Canada,GB, .....

 

                                                                     
                                                                              DEMOCRATIA  ::) :  ;D 

                                                                      " self-service store " for some                                                                   
                      actually,without estate-National Notes-Banks member " The Governing Council"  veto-right and unisono decision :

                                                                                        the ECB,
                                                    France and Italy selling election promise by all EURO-estates costs
                                                        and the european CURIA "kuscht" political,MITESSER / Co-Parasit   
                                                   "kuscht" gelinde diplomatisch,     

                                               PUTSCH gegen MAASTRICHT-VERTRAG

                                                   Nach GG und BGB :

                                                   AUFTRAG an jeden VERFASSUNGSBUERGER der KAPTATION
                                                   DER PUTSCHISTEN und CO-WERKER ,           
                                                   inklusive bedingungslose  TOETUNG,bei GEGENWEHR



 wmbr
OCWL
p.s.: a fresh 3 year solar-flares cycle maximum in front of us :
        https://www-24hamburg-de.translate.goog/welt/sonnensturm-2025-sonnenaktivitaet-nimmt-wieder-zu-unsere-aufwachphase-nasa-91105469.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://www-24hamburg-de.translate.goog/welt/sonnensturm-2025-sonnenaktivitaet-nimmt-wieder-zu-unsere-aufwachphase-nasa-91105469.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)
        bad for metropoles,NO e-money,NO crypto-shit-coins , earth quakes,Tsunamis,Vulcanoes activity et cet.

       Rudolf Diesel -Engine effect : Selve-Incination
       Atom-re-/actor without cooling system : military,civil

       Electricity plants without cooling,transformer without ...
       Car battery package without ........


        unimportant for good-old-time life-style people

                                                              EGALITÉ de pression nonstop INTERNATIONAL  :)

                                                               EE ( grid )  INDEPENDENCE DAY ( AFTER ? 8) )
                                                               The smell of totally industrial freedom  ::) :)

                                                                Am    MORGEN THAU , zum MITTAG blau ( der Himmel !)  ;D
 
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: FreeEnergy on March 16, 2022, 06:38:41 PM
Crazy times.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: onepower on March 16, 2022, 07:52:18 PM
Freeenergy
Quote
Please watch this video, very important.
https://youtu.be/aqKfSbhm6yo

Interesting video with a new take on gaslighting...

So the author is against all forms of authority, except himself, which would ultimately result in chaos hence the term "anarchist".

Indeed this is the far right extremists new narrative after everything else failed to stick. So they will force there will on you then claim it was not them because they don't claim to be an authority even though they act like one. The non-authoritarian but also an authoritarian authority, lol.

However we already know the far right end game which is an authoritarian church state. So after they have destroyed all trust in any government or authority it will create a vacuum which only blind faith could fill. However any good story needs a martyr and we all know who that is, poor little hard done by donny trump who's always the victim, sad.

It is clever and similar to a process of elimination fallacy...
-I'm all for choice and going to give you ten choices.
-I'm also going to bash and degrade 9 of the choices making them untenable.
-The choice is yours even if there's only the one I want.

AC

 
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: FreeEnergy on March 16, 2022, 09:01:19 PM

Funny you say that, you should read his book What Anarchy Isn't.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/yd18waixbva1jae/WhatAnarchyIsnt-FREEBIE.pdf?dl=0

Freeenergy
Interesting video with a new take on gaslighting...

So the author is against all forms of authority, except himself, which would ultimately result in chaos hence the term "anarchist".

Indeed this is the far right extremists new narrative after everything else failed to stick. So they will force there will on you then claim it was not them because they don't claim to be an authority even though they act like one. The non-authoritarian but also an authoritarian authority, lol.

However we already know the far right end game which is an authoritarian church state. So after they have destroyed all trust in any government or authority it will create a vacuum which only blind faith could fill. However any good story needs a martyr and we all know who that is, poor little hard done by donny trump who's always the victim, sad.

It is clever and similar to a process of elimination fallacy...
-I'm all for choice and going to give you ten choices.
-I'm also going to bash and degrade 9 of the choices making them untenable.
-The choice is yours even if there's only the one I want.

AC
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: lancaIV on March 16, 2022, 09:25:42 PM
Anarchy booklet page 20 :
my experience with two labradors,golden retriever,let me take them out without the line in my hand,they ported the line independent ,in their mouth or around their neck,because the law demands ' the dog has to be lined ' !
And I follow,as the dogs did,the law orthodox correct,in the greater city Oporto as in a small vilage ,with both typical street traffic and passengers !
The ' animals' have also ' anima' as we humans and sometimes there is the question :

adapt the dog ' owner' the dog  its character or the dog its 'owner' his/her/its character ?

partnership or relationship similar in a marriage from a couple !
Do dogs lie ? ::) I mean ,by own  experience and Max-Planck-Institute for bioanalytical research experiments  :

Yes,they do ! But also show : regret and shame !

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OCWL
p.s.: the first was baptizised by me with Junot,the family over the time changed to Juno,Junot cause 'Monaco scandales'!     

        And no,the dog did not become a ' playboy' :-[ JUNO became a JAMES BROWN S-machine,          with sometimes for me  :-[ moments !
         I do not know from whom he got this character !  8)




       J'aime ,j'aime la vie,....  ;) :)       


        The second,then Juno (II) was more decent,diplomatic,rural land-life ! ;D


         But there was an (un-)visible "problem"-chen :

         People  :D : Fas chi-chi como uma menina !  ::)   male : menino


       https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Juno_(Mythologie)?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Juno_(Mythologie)?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)
                                   GODNESS,female

      and Juno(II) did not walked linear,walked in serpentins/sinus (tuntig  :P queer ) . P. Junot : bi- ?  ::)

                                        Nee,das war nitt moi Charakter ! Ehrlich,Ehrenwort !  :)
                                                         In search of PERFECTION and UNITY
   
                                                                     CCW ZEN  ' O  '  CW ZEN    , O2

 
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: onepower on March 17, 2022, 01:52:54 AM
freeenergy
Quote
Funny you say that, you should read his book What Anarchy Isn't.

So I read the supposed book and found it similar to something an angry misguided teenager might write.

The context of the authors history is also telling...
Quote
The Myth of Government" -- Humanity wasn't meant to be a domesticated species owned by a ruling class. It was actually supposed to be the top where every human being owns themself and is in charge of their own life.

Interestingly, he labels these "God-Given Rights"... *mic drop*, and now we know the rest of the story.

Apparently he was just another far right bible thumper peddling his wares until he got arrested for tax evasion and is now on a crusade against all governments. So his book wasn't some grand insight or revelation, he was a bad boy who got his hand slapped by the authorities and now he's angry at the world.

You didn't honestly think anyone was just going to believe this bullshit without doing a little research did you?.
The guy is damaged goods, a quack in my opinion...

AC







Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: FreeEnergy on March 17, 2022, 04:04:49 AM

You might also want to read his other book The Most Dangerous Superstition.
🙃😅

freeenergy
So I read the supposed book and found it similar to something an angry misguided teenager might write.

The context of the authors history is also telling...
Interestingly, he labels these "God-Given Rights"... *mic drop*, and now we know the rest of the story.

Apparently he was just another far right bible thumper peddling his wares until he got arrested for tax evasion and is now on a crusade against all governments. So his book wasn't some grand insight or revelation, he was a bad boy who got his hand slapped by the authorities and now he's angry at the world.

You didn't honestly think anyone was just going to believe this bullshit without doing a little research did you?.
The guy is damaged goods, a quack in my opinion...

AC
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: lancaIV on March 18, 2022, 01:48:51 AM
                                            CON-STITUTION
                                       

Is each kind of religion not   "SUPERSTITION" ?

How much in science is         "SUPERSTITION" ? PLACEBO ! Hipo-Thesis !

How much in TRIBUNAL is    "SUPERSTITION" ?

Last INSTANZ /AUTHORITY ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmWTZ3KfnXE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmWTZ3KfnXE)       

    Maijdan ~ Tian’anmen   HIMMLICHEN FRIEDEN      heavenly peace         spiritual peace         mental peace

Is Psychology and Psychiatry : heaven and/or spirit and/or mentum treating ? Synthetical "peace" by right barbiturates dosis ?

In church : exorcism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exorcism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exorcism)

 The FOLK TRIBU-nal , the STAGE ,The ROSTRUM .The PULPIT ,THE TRIBUNE :

                                           the FOLK AEROPAG, the FOLK PEACE SHORT

                                                                     ? 3-Bu(eh)ne  ?  Tree/THREE-BUNE

Tribu ~ Stamm,Stam

Roman : Tribun,a title/function

The Quest ? THE ASK ?!

https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Sonnenrad?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Sonnenrad?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)

How answers the SUN,SON,SONN ? MY,YOUR,HIS/HER/ITS,..... !?  The RIGHT to answer,COMPETENCE !?

IS THE ANSWER,THIS ONE - solely-  ULTIMA RATIO ?

ETERNAL VALID/GUILTY , SUSTAINABLE or only for defined locality and short time period valid ?
Has the SUN legislatur-periods ?

Cycles,minimum : 11 years, the SUN has,YES ! So - it is sayed,written,defined : by PRO-FESSIONALs !

Pro-,CON-FESSION-ALS !? CON-FETA ?

CONFESSION : not SUPERSTITION ?

Asking "alma mater,MENSA" or whom,what ?
Or CURIA : Strassburg,Luetzelbursch-City,DenHaague,Roma : Kassation ,Appellation !?
Or CURIE CARDINALIS as CURATORIUM : SUPREMUM,MAXIMUM ?



VOX ULTIMATIV-A  !?

Rom oder Moskau : wer hat den gerechten Weg eingeschlagen ? Wer irrt sich in dessen Unvollkommenheit ?
Rome or Moscow: who took the right path? Who is mistaken in its imperfection?

https://www-welt-de.translate.goog/politik/ausland/plus237591457/Russisch-orthodoxe-Kirche-Putins-Gotteskrieger.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://www-welt-de.translate.goog/politik/ausland/plus237591457/Russisch-orthodoxe-Kirche-Putins-Gotteskrieger.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)
Patriarch Cyril. I legitimizes the Russian invasion of Ukraine with a folkish-religious ideology, Pope Francis contradicts him.

                                                STAM/M-CELL       STAM/M-HIRN/BRAIN 

                                                                   MANAGEMENT
I ~ AI ,KI,            KEY,SCHLUESSEL,CHAVE,.......

                                                                   DEKA,c'est MOI,M-ARIA
The romano-cat(h)olic CHURCH is/t arian-ish and 3-nitistic : both in one : WITHOUT SUPERSTITION !

2+1 to (2x2)+1 =( Vater und Mutter und Sohn und Tochter ) + heilsamer Geist = Quintessenz


Think BIG,Think MAJESTAS,Think GIANTIC,Think MAGIC 

 Contentus,Mother Blue,in small : I.B.M. ?   

THINK BLUE and BE (IN,IM) BLUE,24/365 ' jejum' ! ;)   'jejum' ? NUECHTERN,so wie IHR all betrachtet werdet !
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: lancaIV on March 19, 2022, 04:51:41 AM
                                             The Quest :

Russia position or Ucraine position,russian cities/russian "land" or ucrainian cities/ucrainian "land" LIFE and VELOCITY philosophy !?
                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o-6ftmw8CE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o-6ftmw8CE)
    "Iskander" to MORAL-question :

    https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Alexander_Iwanowitsch_Herzen?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Alexander_Iwanowitsch_Herzen?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)

      Only Russia/Ucraine ORIENTATION-CONFLICT,or WORLD-wide SEARCH : HOT/COLD WAR,inter-social !?
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugees (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugees)  oeuvre listening ,sin-g-ing for "some" : minority or majority,where and them their age,class  ?


     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIXyKmElvv8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIXyKmElvv8)   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPlb9HoOCxs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPlb9HoOCxs)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIMcktul77c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIMcktul77c)    BIN ,eher,an AFROHman africano ,EVANGELISTA


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPq6eGCXXP8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPq6eGCXXP8)  From 1 to 1² becoming,easy way,inside STELLARATOR using to inter-change "10" 2 "10^2" : cent-rical thinking,feeling,e-m-phaizing
Somebody likes to 'play' tic-tac-toe against my "M'e" ,I begin : ever cent-rical !
      Un-fair,not ! ,  Trust based and by Ex-PERIENCE about Us humans our 'GIER nach mehr'~ Midas  !


   Tschuess
   OCWL

p.s.: Are indian ' PARIA' " RUS " ?
        Are the ethnie " ciganos,SIN-TI and ROMA " not also " RUS" ?

       Rus,Reus,Ross,Reiter,Ritter :

       the netherst function and title from/of the NOBILITY,the ancient social community organizer and server  !
Cavaliere,Chevalier,Edelmann,Frei-/Frey-HERR also ORDO TEUTZ,ORDO TEMPLARIS ,ORDO .......

     A MAN of HONOR,a WOMAN of HONOR ,FREI-FRAU
     Title : outside,content inside !

     Leal-dade,LOYAL-ITY : whom,what ?   Childs Question International ! CAVEAT !

   Cross,hearth,Pik,Caro ?  To be together,staying outside : Watching ?
   Open,'zink'ed ,numerous right cards game play ? Bank ? Who gives,takes !?

  Trust : in dubio pro reo  in dubio contra reo in dubio archivation ,later judgement decision

             FREE OF STATUTES OF LIMITATION, " PRESCRIPTION "total report = total recall

Nobody and Nomind is over the LOY,Gralstraeger und - Walter ! MATE(R)MAT(TER)


Pidgin,Creole,English,Saxon,Eir-an ,Esperanto,...   learn CONSTELLATING,understand-/repeat-able !
Old "RUS"-Runen,litera : story ?
From left to right or right to left  to write     to read  to speak    to spell    in CONTEXT !?
           From Upper down,from Nether up : PI-Ramid,Hirarchy ? ! Archy in O , 2 Anarch in O ,diametral or ∆^2

The Call to OUTSIDE,the Call to Inside : "GEIST-Beschwoerung" ,Seance

Mare Nostrum,Mare Internum : Mare Solaris

Ucraine/Russia : indo - german Scheide-Frontier or Bruecke-Bridge : Sin-O   O-Zone Zone : O or OOOOO Delphi


World Export/Import Market
Festung/Castrum  Continent
Festung/Castrum  Nation
Festung/Castrum Region
Festung/Castrum Local
Festung/Castrum 'My Home'

When ' the enemy/opponent' is soon in YOUR HOME
When YOUR HOME is YOUR BODY ,and the ' enemy/opponent' is YOUR :   MIND ,DeNIM(es) : AZUL,BLEU,BLUE


     And,last and least :
     

THE SOUL,SUL,ZUL in/off YOUR MIND : TIME-LESS ! ? NO LOCAL FIXATION ?!

                                 FREE ?  TOTAL ? No debits,to repay reparation for damages  in perspective ?

     
                               Folks/Voelker Crimes,Personal Crimes !? COMPENSATION ERA in front,international


Anda LUZ-A (+ al gharviensis,- ultra mare)  ,walking in PARAISO,IDYLL,IDOL,IDEAL
Monty Python                             1972        27.th SILLY OLYMPICS
Ucraine/Russia                          2022       28.th SILLY OLYMPICS


MAN-N STIER-T auf so viel angesammelte BLOEDHEIT beider SEITEN !
Amuesant ? Fuer wen ? E.U./US-Ruestungsindustrie/-Finanzierer ?

   

Alexander Graham Bell oeuvre + Buckminster Fuller ' Fullere'  : Tele-/Wifi - Graph
B.F. mentor from : Patrick Flanagan ,'Neurophone'

E-M-PHAIZER :
we take  Transcendenz-Number " e "

                                                         "Pi "
                                                          'log'

And for complementation            'tau'

Siegfried Stargard ouvre :  ' Atom-cell nucleus intro-/extra-duce proceds
Gen-tech                           :  Bio-cell nucleus           "   "   "    "   "    "     "      "
Mind tech                         :         cell in-/formation nucleus intro-/extra-duce proceds = inverse "Neurophone"

                                                 MIND TALKING SOCIETY ,without barrier : without se.x  and drugs and alcohol   
                                                                                                                      ??? Without CENSOR,old style !

                                                  Makes body essentials,by Mother Nature installed !               
                                                               For THE/Y who get the BAR-KEY-CODE


Der " glaeserne Mensch " Polygraph exploitation process,anymore secrets : open mind  ,open history !
                        HEAL : FROHSIN/N,
                                       Lach-/Laught-en/ing about so much "education/experte' sillyness/stupidity
   
                                     Da wird jeder trockene Biotop wieder " feucht" ,Bio-Sphaerenreservat fuer schamige Laeuse !

Der Priester dessen Kanzels Vorlesung : Im Wendekreis des Steinbocks ,Don Camillo und Peppone,String-Theorie S.Hawking's,et cet...

Leben in die Geistes-Bude zurueckbringen ,in das Tempel of LOVE,Planet of Love
Love ist Hingabe,Enthusiasmus,Lust : in allen Gedanken,Dingen,Zeiten,Ortschaften

Arbeit = Freizeit 24/365
Archive 24/365 offenhalten,sowie Schulen : off-/on-line !

MyCastle Pater-/Mater-bei Reife : Filio/Filia-Archat : Tisch-Collegium,Tages-/Wochen-/Monats/Jahres Agenda


Sa Lam(a/-m) nimm hinweg/gib hinzu die Suende/n dieser Welt,dass es sich im Jenseits= Himmel,Eden,Geiste
Suenden-befreit leben laeszt ! St.Florian Principle  ;D :D ;) :)
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: lancaIV on March 24, 2022, 06:28:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31jo5PybC4Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31jo5PybC4Y)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOZDKlpybZE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOZDKlpybZE)


Entertainment International

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=youtube+monty+python+joke+war (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=youtube+monty+python+joke+war)

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=youtube+papis+sturmtruppen (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=youtube+papis+sturmtruppen)




Putin visiting G20 ? Yes,as TOP5 country ! Base,Reference : IWF,WORLDBANC by International $ , soon as US$ to intern. silver$


                                               Polen E.U. " politischer Vorpfosten" zum Osten ?

                      Polen,es ist inhaltlich zu korrigieren,denn hier heiszt dieses,perfekt ausgedrueckt :

                                                  Polen als E.U.s  politischer VOLLPFOSTEN !
                                                  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vollpfosten



                                Macht erst mal die https://www.polen.travel/de/stadte/stadte/czestochowa-tschenstochau (https://www.polen.travel/de/stadte/stadte/czestochowa-tschenstochau) 

                                Maria-Madonna vom Russ-Dreck sauber,dann anfangen gedanklich RICHTIG sich zu aeussern !

                               Noch - ist/hat Polen nicht verloren ! Aggressiver - reaktionaerer- Politkurs-Change !

                               Sonst : P.I.S.- and K.O.T.-Politkasernen-Sturmtruppen-Kapitulation !

                               https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYDs5ccZLDU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYDs5ccZLDU)



                               Ukraine-Russia conflict
                               https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auBNAuXQt2I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auBNAuXQt2I)

                               https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYVsKoQXATY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYVsKoQXATY)

                               https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdKMtaKbvYs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdKMtaKbvYs)

                               https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnAo6T2JhS4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnAo6T2JhS4)
                               
                               

                               https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4)   US Dem or Rep or Indep ?


                               https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzotonmeTn0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzotonmeTn0)  + India ?


MfG
OCWL
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: kolbacict on March 26, 2022, 08:16:05 AM
Western countries, unfortunately speak loudly about human rights and superiority of western values and way of life only when it is beneficial to their government and elite. It was in 20th century, there is right now. :)
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: onepower on March 29, 2022, 06:26:26 PM
Quote
Western countries, unfortunately speak loudly about human rights and superiority of western values and way of life only when it is beneficial to their government and elite. It was in 20th century, there is right now.

It's interesting to note that all the greatest free energy inventors were progressive. In fact almost all Nobel prize winners, scientists, engineers and most professional occupations are progressive in there nature. Progressive relating to civil liberties, human rights, economic justice, a healthy environment and a healthy democracy.

This has nothing to do with anyone thinking there superior more so knowledgeable and able to make intelligent choices.

Quote
Progressive definition, favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, especially in political matters:

This is similar to free energy technology and if people don't want to educate and improve themselves then they will never make progress.
There is no free lunch here...

AC
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: FreeEnergy on April 01, 2022, 05:24:16 PM

See:


https://youtu.be/9ppIR_zd_uQ
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: lancaIV on April 04, 2022, 01:41:43 AM
https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/video237959637/Polnische-Regierung-kritisiert-Haltung-Deutschlands-im-Ukraine-Krieg.html (https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/video237959637/Polnische-Regierung-kritisiert-Haltung-Deutschlands-im-Ukraine-Krieg.html)
Der politische Staat Polen ist 2022 p.C.n. so erwachsen,wie dieser sich so ueber dessen politische Representanten gibt !
Als Mitglied der "Europaeischen Union" fehlt noch,um sich all voll-souveraener Staat der "E.U.-Familie" zu sehen und zu handeln,die Abschaffung der derzeitigen Devise "Zloty" und Einfuehrung der allgemein gueltigen "EURO"  -Waehrung zum 01.01.2023 p.C.n. !
Bis dahin mag die polnische Regierung und praesidiale Staatsrepraesentanz den "politischen Ball" niedrig halten und die Wirtschaft auf eine zirka 30% Bedeutungsdeflation einstellen !
Die Ukraine dann als nicht "EURO"-Staat und Niedrigeinkommen-Investmentstandort eine biliigere und bei intelligentem Bildungswesen bessere Standortalternative fuer Investments als das von seitens E.U.-Kommission und -Parlament  von Wirtschaftssanktionen bedrohte Staat Polen !
Alternative : zum 01.01.2023 Austritt,Polen-Exit, des E.U.-Mitgliedes Polen aus der Union !

                            01.01.2023 p.C.n. :  "Zloty"-Abschaffung und "EURO"-Einfuehrung  oder Polen-Austritt !

POLITIK BEI OFFENER RUESTUENG,TIT FOR TAT !


Frohes Schaffen an das politische Polen wuenschend
OCWL

p.s.: " Christology wie der Islam gehoert zu Deutschland "  ,aktiv sowie passiv dieser Satz interlectual zu verstehen

          Staufer-Kaiser Friedrich Barbarossa II und
          dessen "Humanistsche Feldforschung  bezueglch maximaler Vernunft und Deutung "

          in Relation neuerer Oekumene-Erkenntnis durch Sprach-/Lebens-Form-Komparation :
          http://www.ag-friedensforschung.de/regionen/Malta/arabisch.html (http://www.ag-friedensforschung.de/regionen/Malta/arabisch.html)   :
          " ........ Malta gehoert(e) zur muslimischen Welt ,......"


         Zu welcher Welt gehoert Polen,Ukraine,Schweden,das Baltikum,Bielo-/Russia,,USA ab 01.01.2023 p.C.n. ?
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: onepower on April 04, 2022, 07:18:04 AM
I thought this was strange...
https://www.npr.org/2022/04/01/1090279187/russia-wikipedia-fine

Quote
It is not clear what specific details the regulator is looking to have removed, but Newsweek reports that it said on Monday that the Russian-language version of the page contained "inaccurate information about the special military operation to protect the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics for the de-militarization and de-Nazification of Ukraine," including the use of the words war, aggression and invasion.

I find this mind boggling and a person has to wonder if the whole Russian government isn't mentally retarded.

The whole world has seen countless pictures and video of Russia carpet bombing cities full of civilians in Ukraine. Countless men, women and children blown to bits lying in the streets. Yet these Russians seem to think removing some text is going to solve the problem?.

Did they just think every real news organization on the planet would roll over?. Did they think everyone on the planet didn't see streaming video of the crimes against humanity and atrocities they have committed daily?. I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around how anyone could possibly be that stupid. I mean what's next, Russians running around in the middle of war zone with signs reading " this isn't really a war", lol.

Russia has become a complete joke and lost all credibility...

AC

Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: kolbacict on April 04, 2022, 08:43:59 AM
Did they just think
AC
Quote
I find this mind boggling and a person has to wonder if
They did not think at all and do not think.  Zombies can't think. ;D

Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: r2fpl on April 04, 2022, 09:32:45 AM
This is what is happening in Ukraine. You have to see to believe?

Do you still think Russia is good?
There are certainly good people in the Russian nation, but the bad ones don't let them live.

Can a liar tell the truth? NOT !
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: r2fpl on April 04, 2022, 09:44:05 AM
Poland is not under a given EU country as if, for example, France or Germany would like it.
Poland owes nothing to anyone. Currently, there are 2.5 million refugees from Ukraine and every Pole voluntarily gives money and food.
The EU is not helping us, but it issues bans. UK did well to leave the EU.
Nobody tells them what to do in their own country. The EU as an alliance is good, but not in such an arrangement.
Now, instead of uniting, the EU is turning away from Ukraine and Poland more and more.

They are only interested in money!
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Paul-R on April 04, 2022, 12:30:52 PM
Poland is not under a given EU country as if, for example, France or Germany would like it.

Poland has been a EU member since 2004:
https://european-union.europa.eu/principles-countries-history/country-profiles_en?page=1
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: r2fpl on April 04, 2022, 12:34:57 PM
Poland has been a EU member since 2004:
https://european-union.europa.eu/principles-countries-history/country-profiles_en?page=1
Maybe you misunderstood my opinion. Not what I meant. I know he is in the European Union. The point is that countries such as France or Germany want to rule Poland.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Paul-R on April 04, 2022, 12:41:47 PM
Maybe you misunderstood my opinion. Not what I meant. I know he is in the European Union. The point is that countries such as France or Germany want to rule Poland.
Even if they wanted to, they couldn't. All directives are one country one vote. But they do have influence but then that is always the case in any organisation.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: r2fpl on April 04, 2022, 12:45:40 PM
Even if they wanted to, they couldn't. All directives are one country one vote. But they do have influence but then that is always the case in any organisation.
The EU should speak with one voice, but it is not. When you love money more than human.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: kolbacict on April 05, 2022, 07:03:42 AM
Poland will not issue visas or asylum to these people?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsN6Iam7u2U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsN6Iam7u2U)
It's time for that.
How amazing is this world!
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: r2fpl on April 05, 2022, 08:36:35 AM
Poland will not issue visas or asylum to these people?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsN6Iam7u2U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsN6Iam7u2U)
It's time for that.
How amazing is this world!

What are you talking about ? What visas, what asylum? For 2 weeks ago, Poland has been giving Pesel numbers for all refugees from Ukraine so that they have free health care and can work legally!
Many Ukrainians already have a job but there are 2 million of them so what do you expect more?

What country are you from ?
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: kolbacict on April 05, 2022, 09:36:55 AM
What country are you from ?
We from where this video was filmed. :)
Where they arrest for sausage with the inscription "peace". :D
Look, it's funny. Maybe there are English subtitles... I don't know.
Europe closed entry to these people?
The best time for this!
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: r2fpl on April 05, 2022, 09:53:18 AM
War is not fun.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: lancaIV on April 07, 2022, 04:06:34 AM
           Vesion A

https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article238028163/Generalsekretaer-Stoltenberg-Viele-Monate-oder-sogar-Jahre-Nato-rechnet-mit-langem-Krieg-in-der-Ukraine.html (https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article238028163/Generalsekretaer-Stoltenberg-Viele-Monate-oder-sogar-Jahre-Nato-rechnet-mit-langem-Krieg-in-der-Ukraine.html)
   
          Version B
https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/militaer-strategie-hodges-ukraine-krieg-russland-100.html (https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/militaer-strategie-hodges-ukraine-krieg-russland-100.html)

For a better Future preferable " Version B " .

Ukraine/Russia

or Russia and Ukraine: Doppel-Agent :

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pr%C3%A4sident_der_Ukraine (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pr%C3%A4sident_der_Ukraine)

erinnert an https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mata_Hari (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mata_Hari)  ;D 

com barba like  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4CUEhVJO1WQ (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4CUEhVJO1WQ)


Target : economical Capitulation G7 ! Financial bankruptcy .


The World Top 5, Top 10       BY US$ ,fictional non money covered bonds finance system
The World Top 5,Top 10        BY PPP,also called " International $ ( currency basket) ,better money covered bonds


                              https://www.investopedia.com/insights/worlds-top-economies/ (https://www.investopedia.com/insights/worlds-top-economies/)

       BRIC and their NEW WORLD LAWS and ORDER,beginning 10.05.2022 p.C.n.


      G7 : (George) King'(- Davenant)sche Regel  + C.F.v.Weizsaecker ' Eternal Tax-Law' : G7 System Super-Gau


                                       "Finance Motor"/    Atomreactor- compared : Kernschmelze  ::)
   

         ;D looky-looky making :
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=statistical+versus+real+us+market+inflation+quotes+calculation&oq=statistical+versus+real+us+market+inflation+quotes+calculation&aqs=heirloom-srp (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=statistical+versus+real+us+market+inflation+quotes+calculation&oq=statistical+versus+real+us+market+inflation+quotes+calculation&aqs=heirloom-srp)..

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=statistical+versus+real+e.u.+market+inflation+quotes+calculation&oq=statistical+versus+real+e.u.+market+inflation+quotes+calculation&aqs=heirloom-srp (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=statistical+versus+real+e.u.+market+inflation+quotes+calculation&oq=statistical+versus+real+e.u.+market+inflation+quotes+calculation&aqs=heirloom-srp)..  ;D


E.U. EURO compared calculated International Euro
U.S.$         compared  calculated International $
F.E.D. and ECB : Staatsverrat,Landfriedensbruch,schwerer organisierter Betrug


U.S. F.E.D. and ECB solely legal function :
                                                                               1:1

NOTEN-/WECHSEL-/BONDS-/Obligation/Loan-Emission for the each participating estatal money-Central bank !
             Note,Wechsel,Bond,Obligation,Darlehen(loan) :
https://www.google.com/search?q=zero+bonds&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=zero+bonds&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)

Rechtliches Entschuldungsproblem : Kapitalunterversorgung

allgemeine Kreditmassequote :
https://www.google.com/search?q=kreditmassequote+englisch&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=kreditmassequote+englisch&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)

          Schaetzung ,real : 37 fictive Kredit-units ~ 1 real money-unit by liquidation


Instead 1: 1  only 37 : 1   = 100% - [(1/37) %] = 97,3% Bond/moeda or money or coin currency  ratio value lost




      Worker serfdom system,no fair = real credit-inflation compensation per annum !
                                              e-Finance-/shit-coin-/Bonds-/ Credit - Proletariat !


Alle derzeitigen kommerziellen Vertraege nicht rechtsgueltig,auf U.S.$ und Euro !

Rueckabwicklung,bei professionellem Vorsatz
= Norm bei Banken,Versicherungen,Immobilienbranche,Kredit-Finanzunternehmen :f
100ache der Vertragssumme als WUERDE-Schaedigung-Wiedergutmachung !

                                   KAPITAL-VERBRECHEN : TODESSTRAFE
                                                              TiI(L)T for TAT

Personengruppe : VOGELFREI-Deklaration : die hoheitliche ACHT ,EX-KOMMUNIZIERUNG ;
Erlass aller Strafkompensation bei Toetung dieser und Vernichtung all der Sachgueter der gesamten Sippschaft !

https://www.songtexte.com/artist/ton-steine-scherben-7bd6c6fc.html (https://www.songtexte.com/artist/ton-steine-scherben-7bd6c6fc.html)
https://www.songtexte.com/songtext/ton-steine-scherben/menschenjager-7bd9a65c.html (https://www.songtexte.com/songtext/ton-steine-scherben/menschenjager-7bd9a65c.html)
              Froehliches Ex-'Menschen'- ,in Wirklichkeit BESTIEN -Jagen wuenschend

              https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halali_(Jagd (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halali_(Jagd))
             
              Inklusive : alle Staatsangestellte und -Arbeitnehmer,Parlamentsangehoerige ,Kirchendiener : Clerus

Die Todesstrafe wird ,bei Selbstanzeige,erstmal durch "15 Jahre ~ DE lebenslaenglich,bei unentgeltlicher effektiver und produktiver Arbeit waehrend dieser Haftanstalt-Zeit " ersetzt ,bei Widerstand : eben Toetung !

wmbr
OCWL

https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/ipcc-bericht-guterres-wirft-regierungen-und-firmen-luegen-beim-klimaschutz-vor-a-d0d2d654-281e-4670-a4ac-9576e9bb7075 (https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/ipcc-bericht-guterres-wirft-regierungen-und-firmen-luegen-beim-klimaschutz-vor-a-d0d2d654-281e-4670-a4ac-9576e9bb7075)

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=Ton+Steine+Scherben+Texte&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj7rrOB94D3AhVMe8AKHTGpBF0Q1QJ6BAgCEAw (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=Ton+Steine+Scherben+Texte&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj7rrOB94D3AhVMe8AKHTGpBF0Q1QJ6BAgCEAw)
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: kolbacict on April 07, 2022, 01:20:40 PM
Why is my citizenship like the seal of Cain.
What is my fault here?  :(
Who at all came up with documents in the world, it seems to me that it could not have done without the devil ... :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passport (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passport)
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: ramset on April 07, 2022, 03:30:09 PM
Sir
There are those who would put us against each other ( it is a tried and true method to divide conquer)
Here you are a person dedicated to open sourcing to make our world a better place !


for the next generation!!


Respectfully
Chet K
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Johnsmith on April 09, 2022, 04:53:45 AM
Why is my citizenship like the seal of Cain.
What is my fault here?  :(
Who at all came up with documents in the world, it seems to me that it could not have done without the devil ... :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passport (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passport)


  I hope to move to Spain because it is not an English speaking country. I am 1/2 Norwegian and am very much hated for it.
I am supposed to give my work to people who have 2 Engleske speaking parents from the same country. It's about who is better.
With Putin, even Hitler rose to power when he lost the election. There is one wealthy Russian who has spoken out against the war.
 In this forum I was viciously attacked for not pleasing a Christian man who threatened to call my father. Some people don't have to
follow the rules. I think with Putin, he has been surrounded by people who enable him just as a Christian man would say little boy,
I'll call your father and then you'll be in trouble and that's not a problem except for who says no. That might be white supremacy or
the guy might've actually liked little boys. I'm not a kid and he had issues dealing with that.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: r2fpl on April 09, 2022, 09:23:06 AM
Why is my citizenship like the seal of Cain.
What is my fault here?  :(
Who at all came up with documents in the world, it seems to me that it could not have done without the devil ... :D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passport (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passport)

It all started with a woman and a man and their first child. This is called family. Then there were more and more families, but they argued, so friendships but also hostiles arose. This is how we now have countries. Now, instead of friendship, we have wars.

Passport and money are the resources of the devil. The language that Russia speaks now is the language of the devil himself.

... whoever says that he is telling the truth and lying is from the devil.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: AlienGrey on April 09, 2022, 09:48:19 AM
Does that statement include 911 and the destruction of the twin towers and reports from higher levels of inspectors and traced where the money goes that the US tax payers paid for the development of the Covid pandemic and what was Vietnam all about or should we blame some demonic entity creation our deeds have created , it all boils down to would you kill for your dictating government or just stick there gun up there arse as in the film full metal jacket ?
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: kolbacict on April 09, 2022, 09:57:01 AM
  I hope to move to Spain because it is not an English speaking country.
You can move wherever you want, no problem.
I have the seal of Cain on me, I can't,someone decided so ...
The fact that I never supported this regime is of no interest to anyone.
Probably we  have to carry your cross to the end. :)
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: r2fpl on April 09, 2022, 10:00:16 AM
If you believe in God you understand what is happening and who is behind it. If you don't believe in God, you only see people and what they do, but you still don't understand why. You say because they're bad people YES, but why do they do it when they have so much money?
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: AlienGrey on April 09, 2022, 01:13:59 PM
The problem with religion is you don't have all the information or all the books
come back when you have read the Ethiopian book of Enoch, as you will realize
the king James bible has been got at, change change angels to extra terrestrial
and God could very well not be the create. Most of the old testament Prophets
ascended in space craft you would know this if you read the original documents.

And any way this isn't the the right thread to publish this stuff, we all know big
political guv once in power behave like greedy animals and become serial liars!
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: lancaIV on April 09, 2022, 01:32:15 PM
The problem with religion is you don't have all the information or all the books
come back when you have read the Ethiopian book of Enoch, as you will realize
the king James bible has been got at, change change angels to extra terrestrial
and God could very well not be the create. Most of the old testament Prophets
ascended in space craft you would know this if you read the original documents.

And any way this isn't the the right thread to publish this stuff, we all know big
political guv once in power behave like greedy animals and become serial liars!
AG,You are an Orphant/Orfic,are You not ?   ::) :

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orphiker (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orphiker)
https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Orphiker?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Orphiker?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)


Wellcome in ?- ;) land

Probably differing ' lost sun' and ' lost son' and the ' red phone intercommunication' !?

Wo da phone (- Netzanschluss) https://www.google.com/search?q=Zon&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m ? :-\
Woas ned,oider ! ;D 
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: r2fpl on April 09, 2022, 03:14:16 PM
You read what you like and believe in what you want or who you want, so you have a choice.
I am doing the same. For such reasons, there were also wars until people did not understand that man is not from a monkey and has his creator and his name is He Who Is.

We should not argue about it, but be kind to each other and respect ourselves, then everyone will be satisfied.
Jews, Catholics, Museumans, Hindi and other religions are not bad for people who want peace and love for another person.

Belief in UFOs or other strange versions is a figment of evil people who want to argue us. There are good demons and bad demons in every faith.

The technique is so great now that you don't see the little miracles and the great wonders that are around you.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: kolbacict on April 09, 2022, 05:29:36 PM
people did not understand that man is not from a monkey
Sometimes it seems to me that Russians are descended from monkeys.
When I am looking at how they relate to what is happening.  ;D

Or just soulless robots.

p.s. Is the information true that the United States of America sold fuel, gasoline, etc. to Nazi Germany  during second world war?
Specifically Rockefeller Standard Oil?
And the German submarines did not sink these tankers, while sinking all the others.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: r2fpl on April 09, 2022, 06:05:45 PM
Sometimes it seems to me that Russians are descended from monkeys.
When I am looking at how they relate to what is happening.  ;D

Or just soulless robots.

p.s. Is the information true that the United States of America sold fuel, gasoline, etc. to Nazi Germany  during second world war?
Specifically Rockefeller Standard Oil?
And the German submarines did not sink these tankers, while sinking all the others.

What the Russians are doing in Ukraine now are monkeys not even doing. I thought that only Putin was angry and his colleagues, but ordinary Russians, would agree with what he is doing.
I am in several Russian forums and they lie notoriously, but each one of them claims to be telling the truth. I already noticed this a few years ago.
Do you know what is important? They believe themselves. I don't understand them why they keep lying. I think this nation has it coded in their DNA.

Every country has its lies and even religion too. We have to choose constantly, and it is getting more and more difficult.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: activ25 on April 10, 2022, 10:42:27 AM
In france it is difficult to find a good map of what part is under control of russia. A lot of Telegram canals has been closed.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: lancaIV on April 10, 2022, 11:09:08 AM
What the Russians are doing in Ukraine now are monkeys not even doing. I thought that only Putin was angry and his colleagues, but ordinary Russians, would agree with what he is doing.
I am in several Russian forums and they lie notoriously, but each one of them claims to be telling the truth. I already noticed this a few years ago.
Do you know what is important? They believe themselves. I don't understand them why they keep lying.


I think this nation has it coded in their DNA.
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"  ..... coded in their DNA ."

Natural,by humans ( genetical heritage),during life after birth : en-/in-coded !?
Good or bad composition !?

Misunderstood by outsider,what the DNA-holder means,how he/she/it acts ?

Supra-/majority-/minority- normal ?

Coach Mourinho,actually AS Roma  : The Special One  ::)   Coach Klopp,FC Liverpool : The Normal One  ::)           
       
                        References,(DNA-?)qualified : by experience,titles,rank,name/-s  !? 8)
                        BY BASE/DNA-BASICS ? :       DEDICATION ? BESTIMMUNG ? ETHIK ?
                        By perpetuum i'slam /jam /enthusiasm / Begeisterung / open Fuellhorn

                        and-und spending /giving


                        Ehre und Nennung,lebend wie tot, wem Ehre gebuehr-et
                        Schande und Nennung,lebend wie tot,wem Schande gebuehr-et


Ukrainian DNA majority interests,minority ? Ukrainian Constitution demands ....... !
Russian DNA majority interests,minority ? Russian Constitution demands ........!

European Council Charta- members majority interests ,minority ? European Charta demands ........ !
From Island Corvo/Azoren/PT/North- American Continental-plate   up to Siberian/Alascian U.S.A-frontier :
European DNA interests ? Good or bad,for peace or war,communitarism ?

How much " Marshall plan " or " Morgenthau plan " ?
DNA : more Marshall or Morgenthau,nomen et omen !?

DNA-information/formation- inter-/ex-changer ? :

https://www.google.com/search?q=neurophone&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=neurophone&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
DNA: " mind and/or called memory "  storage

writer,reader ,effect :
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=der+glaeserne+Mensch&oq=der+glaeserne+Mensch&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l5 (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=der+glaeserne+Mensch&oq=der+glaeserne+Mensch&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l5)

Tribunal : In quis ...... ? Neuronal receiver chamber    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M3U83QLoATU (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M3U83QLoATU)

       Und fuehrtet nicht in die Versuchung ! In die Untreue ! In den Verrat !
                                                             REVISION,frei von lokaler,zeitlicher Befristung

                                                             Rueckabwicklung
           
 The Worriest : der Leviathan,aber dieser ist in Schoepfungsunion GOTT-derselbst !

  ~ (  Koenig ) David gegen Goliath   

                                                Goliath ~ MATEMATICA ,die Kosmology ,das Gesamtarchiv,als "Monstrum,Ungeheuer "

            En-/De-/Sym-/bolik,En-/De-/Chiffrierung,En-/De-Codifizierung Ikonography  Kalligraphy DNAgraphy

https://www.google.com/search?q=neurophone&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=neurophone&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)

               Actually Genom-R&D evolution stage : in deutsch-german

For other languages here ( or other language automatic translator using ) wished website in-put-ting

https://translate.google.com/?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&op=websites (https://translate.google.com/?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&op=websites)

https://www.google.com/search?q=genom+entraetselt&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=genom+entraetselt&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)


interference by forum-member LancaIV
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Every country has its lies and even religion too. We have to choose constantly, and it is getting more and more difficult.
wmbr
OCWL
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: lancaIV on April 13, 2022, 01:24:41 PM
 
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B6lkerrecht (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B6lkerrecht)
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verfassung_der_Ukraine (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verfassung_der_Ukraine)
Version 2000 p.C.n.
               2008 p.C.n.
               2014 p.C.n.
               2022 p.C.n.

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verfassung_der_Russischen_F%C3%B6deration (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verfassung_der_Russischen_F%C3%B6deration)

 Version  2000 p.C.n.
                 2008 p.C.n.
                 2014 p.C.n.
                 2022 p.C.n.

   
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA-Vereinbarung (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA-Vereinbarung)   Mitglieder-Verfassungen

z.B.

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verfassung_der_Vereinigten_Staaten (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verfassung_der_Vereinigten_Staaten)
Version 2000 p.C.n
               2008 p.C.n
               2014 p.C.n.
               2022 p.C.n.

Alle haben sich einzufuegen,ausnahmslos ,:

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charta_der_Vereinten_Nationen (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charta_der_Vereinten_Nationen)
Einzige Legitimation nach Voelkerrecht,gueltige aktuelle Version  :

https://www.unmissions.org/ (https://www.unmissions.org/)
Alle anderen Militaereinsaetze,ohne U..N.-Mandat werden vor das

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationaler_Strafgerichtshof (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationaler_Strafgerichtshof)
gebracht !


https://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/videos/politik/Biden-Diktator-Putin-begeht-Voelkermord-article23265709.html (https://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/videos/politik/Biden-Diktator-Putin-begeht-Voelkermord-article23265709.html)
Friedenszeit,titular  : Staatsoberhaupt Staatspraesident,Monarch

Kriegszeit,verfassungskonform ,titular : Diktator
Friedenszeit,Kriegszeit,verfassungsvergewaltigend,titular : Despot,Tyrann

Joe Biden : U.S.A. ,voelkerrechtlich/strafrechtlich : a.Staatspraesident b.Diktator c.Tyrann,Despot
Donald Trump                                                              : a.  ?                             b.               c.
Obama,Bush,Clinton

Die Welt schlaeft nicht,dokumentiert ! Strafgerichtshof-dienlich,  INTERNATIONAL !

U.N.-Generalsekretaer Prinz Khofi Annan

https://www.google.com/search?q=durban+menschenrechtskonferenz+kofi+annan&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=durban+menschenrechtskonferenz+kofi+annan&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
" Not here,not yet !"- countdown beschleunigend !Tribunal,U.N.-Vollversammlungs-Plazet !
Reparation ! Wiedergutmachung !


AUGENMASZ :

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP))

                     April 2021 data
by capita    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita)





EUROPARAT-members 2020 ,before by some provoked conflict

            By the ukrainian Oligarchie-Nomenklatura !
https://www.google.com/search?q=ukraine+president&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=ukraine+president&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
and the " Grauen Eminenzen" behind !?  8)

                           Minimum back to 2005 p.C.n. :   ;D

 https://www.google.com/search?q=bewerbung+euro+2012&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=bewerbung+euro+2012&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fu%C3%9Fball-Europameisterschaft_2012 (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fu%C3%9Fball-Europameisterschaft_2012)
Bewerbung, Auslosung : chronicle review !  Money-flow ! FIFA + UEFA ! Geheimdienste international !



https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europarat (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europarat)

Germany,BR Deutschland

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Germany (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Germany)

Russian Federation

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Russia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Russia)


compared the importance :         

                                                                  1/20  by PPP-$ -  1/100   compared
Ukraine

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Ukraine  (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Ukraine)
     Per capita PPP April 2021  World-Ranking : 120th positioning !     

     IMPRESSIVE POTENTE !  IMPRESSIVE EFFICIENT !

     IMPRESSIVE: Ucraine ,without the by the Sovjet-union leaned R&D ,ucraine-foreign brain capital,concentration !
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=vesperman+padrak+kiev&oq=vesperman+padrak+kiev&aqs=heirloom-srp (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=vesperman+padrak+kiev&oq=vesperman+padrak+kiev&aqs=heirloom-srp)..

    1990 interestant as R&D-Standort,2022 : die Karaeane ist schon laengst weiter gezogen !

     Now a brain empty future in front : Trappatonis "Flasche-laeer-Sindrome  ::) " !
     https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ub1zsUD7UNQ (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ub1zsUD7UNQ)
      Agrikultur und Sightseeing,auch nicht schlecht ! Morgenthau-Plan !


Gini coefficient !     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient)

                                   

                   Pinscher von Pinch unterscheiden koennen !
                   Ukraine as political Sub-region from Great-Polonia ? !  ::) ;) ;D


                   Renascimento : Polonia-Lithuania Rik or Raich or Ras or Rus   

                   Rus = deutsch Reich,Herrschaftsgebiet,Tag(ung)
                   Reichstag ~ REICHSREICH  TAGSTAG
                  Niemand behauptet dass Politiker interligent/intelligent zu sein haben !
                  Fuer fette Diaeten reicht es ! ::) Die existentielle Unverfrohrenheit !
     

                   https://www.google.com/search?q=polen+litauen+union&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=polen+litauen+union&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
     
             
                   Satast Danaee ....   (Be-)Huete Dich vor den Danaern ......
                    2022 p.C.n. : 

                   Behuete Dich und dein KFZ vor den Polen und Litauern

                    auch wenn diese Dir Geschenke bringen moegen ,( bei Schenkern Hinter-Gedanken !) !

                    Ukraine nach Ost-Abspaltung,von per capita  Ranking 120 ins Bodenlose !
                    Anschluss ? Fusion ? Verlust der Souveraenitaet ,wie gehabt ! ;D






Hasardeure und Vergewaltiger, Parasiten jeglicher Arten&Weisen- offen und sublim- entmachten,abruesten,deindustrialieren !



MfG
OCWL
p.s.: persoenlich ist mir die Lebensart des V./W. Putin zuwider zuviele Wuerfe produziert !,aber seine Person ist bedeutunglos,diese Gestalt hat Russland und die geschriebene Verfassung 100% zu repraesentieren :

falls nicht 100% verfassungskonform ,extern sowie intern : Toetung !
Wie ueberall auf der Welt nun vorgegangen wird !
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: lancaIV on April 13, 2022, 03:24:59 PM
Frage :  die BRIC-Staaten und Verbuendete steigen aus der WTO aus,
alle kommerziellen,noch eventuell vorhandenen/existierenden,Warenrechte der G7 ,US$ -Basis,werden neutralisiert/abgeschafft,in deren - der WTO-Aussteiger- souveraenen Territorien ,
welche Folge fuer die Triple-Credit-Lever G7-economies ?
       Fuer die teuren Unis,Tourismusbranche(in-/direkt)Ueberkonsum-Dienstleister Kosmetika-Influencer  :'( ?
      Prognostiker und den Wirtschafts-Weisen-Instituten ?

     Makulatur,fuer den Abfalleimer,die falschen Zukunftsplaene ! Ausbeutungsbasierend,inter-/national !

      Die Finanzindustrie : Domino-Effekt !
     Eigentums-und Besitz-Wechsel von materiellen Vermoegen allerorten !

https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+domino+day&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+domino+day&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)  ;D
China ,P.R., hat es schon im "Seidenstrassen-Projekt " paragraphiert : Zero Patents (Konzedierungen ) !
Die Welt schlaeft nicht,ich ausreichend ! ::) :D Sonst : gereichend awaked !
 MfG
OCWL
p.s.: Rasch vorwaerts in die Zukunft ?
https://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/oklahoma-bestraft-abtreibungen-kuenftig-mit-bis-zu-zehn-jahren-haft-17955729.html (https://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/oklahoma-bestraft-abtreibungen-kuenftig-mit-bis-zu-zehn-jahren-haft-17955729.html)
Oklahoma deklariert sich,innerhalb des gueltigen Territoriums,
https://www.google.com/search?q=Oklahoma&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=Oklahoma&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
als Vorreiter  : des " Bible belts," ,
zur Kredit-Zins-Freiheit-Zone ,so wie es aus konservativer Sicht der Dinge und "guten alten Zeit" NORM darstellt/-e :
Kreditzins-Verbot im C(h)ristentum :

https://www.google.com/search?q=kreditzinsverbot+im+Christentum&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=kreditzinsverbot+im+Christentum&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
https://translate.google.com/?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&op=websites (https://translate.google.com/?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&op=websites)
Alles was Ihr tut und sagt und schreibt wird ebenso gegen Euch angewandt werden !
Luegner,Luegnerinnen : nach Tribunalspruch  oeffentliches Auspeitschen,a.durch Verwandte b. den Nachbarn (pl.)

Tit for Tat
OCWL
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: onepower on April 13, 2022, 05:50:12 PM
r2fpl
Quote
If you believe in God you understand what is happening and who is behind it. If you don't believe in God, you only see people and what they do, but you still don't understand why. You say because they're bad people YES, but why do they do it when they have so much money?
It's easy to understand why people do bad things and in psychology it always relates to a lack of empathy. Unfortunately, in a majority of all cases the lack of empathy is learned from there parents. Our children are always watching and learning then copy what they see.

Another aspect is toxic competitiveness and masculinity, where a society convinces the population to believe they must always dominate others. Obviously one cannot always dominate and feel empathy because they contradict one another. So the population becomes more and more ruthless and uncaring always trying to dominate and claw there way to the top. This is why for many enough is never enough and they are slaves to wealth and power. They are slaves because they do not have the power to change.

Most organized religion has a similar effect teaching that those who believe are superior to others. It has morphed from "moderation and do good" to victimization and forcing beliefs on others to maintain the status quo. I mean, it would be easy to feel superior when one believes they cannot die and will live forever in a magical place like a god for eternity. However we should be clear, spirituality is not the same as organized religion which has become a cult. Spirituality relates to the individual and generally makes them a better person in my opinion.

Do you see the pattern?, all our beliefs have become more extreme because were competing with more and more people. As overpopulation increases we can expect all our problems to get worse. It's not going to end well and something has to give soon...

Regards
AC

Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: r2fpl on April 13, 2022, 06:58:24 PM
onepower:

So why do people believe in God from the beginning? Who made our universe? If you don't put God here, you won't know the answer, and God suppresses everything and you don't need anything else.
Why is there so much war and evil on earth? You say: because people do not have empathy. Yes, but that's what comes from God. If you do not believe in God, you are looking for a rational explanation, but it is man's pride that is to blame. The present times are the beginning of getting rid of God from human consciousness. China - there is a ban on the punishment, inclusive. The same is slowly happening in other countries. You are to be like a thoughtless machine that conforms to the doctrine. This is what you see in Russia and North Korea now.
Faith in God is always love and goodness, forgiveness and faith. If not, it means that the religion comes from mammon.

I recently saw a video showing how long would it take for one basic primitive cell to arise by chance? 2-3 times longer than the great size of our universe. Further comparisons do not make sense, so as not to understand that this is not a coincidence, so God must be behind it and that's it. If you do not believe it out of conviction, check the present teaching.
Everyone believes what and who they want.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: onepower on April 14, 2022, 02:54:26 AM
r2fpl
In fact the majority of Russians, the government and Putin are devout Orthodox Christians who believe in a God just like you do. Apparently you haven't got your facts straight again.

Quote
So why do people believe in God from the beginning? Who made our universe?

Obviously a "who" could never have the capacity to create a whole universe more so from nothing. This is simply your own ego talking trying to glorify yourself and mankind. The key words which give your real beliefs away are "who" and "made" when neither apply.

The facts we know suggest our tiny part of the universe is cyclical and there was never a true beginning or end to the whole universe. This is true because energy/matter cannot be created or destroyed only transformed. Therefore everything which does exist must have always existed somewhere in some form. In fact, all the matter and energy on Earth came from some other part of the universe thus we and everything we know are alien ie. not of Earth.

Science facts are often stranger than fiction...

AC

Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: lancaIV on April 14, 2022, 04:22:54 AM
r2fpl
In fact the majority of Russians, the government and Putin are devout Orthodox Christians who believe in a God just like you do. Apparently you haven't got your facts straight again.

Obviously a "who" could never have the capacity to create a whole universe more so from nothing. This is simply your own ego talking trying to glorify yourself and mankind. The key words which give your real beliefs away are "who" and "made" when neither apply.

The facts we know suggest our tiny part of the universe is cyclical and there was never a true beginning or end to the whole universe. This is true because energy/matter cannot be created or destroyed only transformed. Therefore everything which does exist must have always existed somewhere in some form. In fact, all the matter and energy on Earth came from some other part of the universe thus we and everything we know are alien ie. not of Earth.

Science facts are often stranger than fiction...

AC
Importance !?   Provability !?   Argumentation by facts !?
What was first : the predicted/dedicated No/Never/End or the No/Never/Beginning ?
 https://www.sgipt.org/th_schul/pa/kek/pak_kek0.htm (https://www.sgipt.org/th_schul/pa/kek/pak_kek0.htm)
https://www-sgipt-org.translate.goog/th_schul/pa/kek/pak_kek0.htm?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://www-sgipt-org.translate.goog/th_schul/pa/kek/pak_kek0.htm?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)

 'devout'  ::) Teached Pidgin-phonetics ?

Confessor and Professor mimikry/simulation from niederen ,geistarmen,Kreaturen !
To be ' devot' https://wortwuchs-net.translate.goog/fremdwort/devot/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://wortwuchs-net.translate.goog/fremdwort/devot/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)

Russian Orthodox Church : Arians or Trinitists ? Which believe belongs nearer ' vox populi ' ,daybyday reality ?
After church (philosophy and/or administrative ?) split : Allrussians to Russisn Orthodox,Ucrainian Orthodox,...!?

The western life-art philosophy  [the ukrainian government ever 'to ( wish to)  belong' argument] ' in what believe' ?

Kind  a.regard b./s  ( " grauer Schimmel" ? " Anglo Saxon " ? Geistesprimitivlinge ! Erfahrungs-Arme !)

   Sprachendiversivitaet in einer kompakten Sprache ! Mehrzahl in Einzahl ! Irrationale Rationalitaet ! Set praxis !

btw: profile- diversivity ,included political- queer personalities,m. and f.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Ukraine (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Ukraine)   without Name/S.exus  for external representation mainly

https://de-academic.com/dic.nsf/dewiki/863965 (https://de-academic.com/dic.nsf/dewiki/863965)
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pr%C3%A4sident_der_Ukraine ii (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pr%C3%A4sident_der_Ukraine)
Their political,geophysical orientation ? Interests : own puerse,the republic advantage  !?

Amtsenthebung Wiktor Janukowytschs  before/during/after rebellion ? Actors,in-/ex-ternal !?
     FREE /Sublim-suggestive/censored political  conservative or progressive press/media/TV (c.+p. Coalition ?)

                                                             landscape evolution  ?

for internal,1990 + : :
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Ministerpr%C3%A4sidenten_der_Ukraine (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Ministerpr%C3%A4sidenten_der_Ukraine)

Their financial/political mentors/groups inter-/national behind/beside ?

Actually 'President' function filled by :

https://www.wsj.com/articles/who-is-volodymyr-zelensky-ukrainian-president-11646161781 (https://www.wsj.com/articles/who-is-volodymyr-zelensky-ukrainian-president-11646161781)
A ' little ukrainian 'Trump' : https://www.wsj.com/articles/can-a-little-known-ukrainian-comic-stand-up-to-russia-the-west-worries-11554311018?mod=article_inline (https://www.wsj.com/articles/can-a-little-known-ukrainian-comic-stand-up-to-russia-the-west-worries-11554311018?mod=article_inline)  !
https://www.google.com/search?q=russisch+orthodoxe+kirche+patriarchen+seit+1990&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=russisch+orthodoxe+kirche+patriarchen+seit+1990&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
https://www.google.com/search?q=spaltung+russisch+orthodoxe+kirche&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=spaltung+russisch+orthodoxe+kirche&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)


https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/krise-der-orthodoxie-kirche-droht-die-spaltung-100.html (https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/krise-der-orthodoxie-kirche-droht-die-spaltung-100.html)



A ' urban zone child philosophy '- product or /and ' rural/suburbian zone child-philosophy'-product from
sovjet poste era ?!

       " May-'King' bik bisIEnaess "  ;D -eastern 1990-2014  IDEALism ,koste es was ES( dazu verlangen) wolle

          knowledge/experience/believes ? Or only ' media (owner) coach/es adviced/controled/installed ' ?


OCWL

p.s. :                     the fein thing, by fine Grobsinn  ! :

The 'Monty Python' group members

https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+monty+python&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+monty+python&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P_G3RWb-azo 


discovered this queer-LGBT-behaviour- paradoxon :

             Anglo-Saxonic = not guide,more gay-lin-/lan-guage :

             https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IwHotyPnSgc (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IwHotyPnSgc)

             SCHWUCHTELSPEECH ,ihr ' schwanzus longus' TUNTEN-/MAENNER-FICKER,maennliche

          Actually as good  in " Life-and lin-/lan/lon-guage PARADOXON application "

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=youtube+Little+Big&oq=youtube+Little+Big&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l5 (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=youtube+Little+Big&oq=youtube+Little+Big&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l5)
         
                                                   Funny moments with FUN wishing

Hallo Ex-LGBT-Pres Donnyboy,LGBT-Old-noDrag-Queen Eliza II,LGBT-Pres Joe und LGBT-Kokser-Sohnemaennle,........
                                         FATHERFUCKER
In a world,where hyperphysics led empting atoms from their nucleus,biocells their nucleus,we shall not forget
as man and woman ,to a-/de-/re-spect one the other and our,male, and their ,female, wishes,'lusts/desiree' in/bydaybyday life bio-rythmical cycle :
https://www-welt-de.translate.goog/iconist/partnerschaft/article238133117/Principles-of-Pleasure-auf-Netflix-Was-man-ueber-Frauen--und-Orgasmus-wissen-sollte.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://www-welt-de.translate.goog/iconist/partnerschaft/article238133117/Principles-of-Pleasure-auf-Netflix-Was-man-ueber-Frauen--und-Orgasmus-wissen-sollte.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)
                   
       And there is a need ,by law view point,by psychological view point and ethics :

This  documentary is worth watching for men and everyone who loves them

This  documentary is worth watching for children and everyone who loves them

Bio-/chemo- logical change : transgendric child (common case ) becomes a.mental b. by body male/female

       Pre-/Poste-basic school entree age ,in numerical number !? Hidden sexuality ! Joy/Joga of S.ex(taner)
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: r2fpl on April 14, 2022, 09:25:21 AM
onepower:

There are and have been many bad religions. You say the universe is renewing but who is doing it? where did he come from? I know you don't care because you don't want to believe in God as a creator. What's wrong with believing in God and loving another human being. You do the same thing every day, only instead of God you have money or other things you love.
Believing in God, I am sure that he listens to me and helps me because a rational man knows that he is not alone. I will not convince you because you have chosen your own way and let everyone go their own way.

If there was no faith in God long ago, people would have killed each other long ago.

Why do you want to live? what for ? why bother. That's what the cult believers said, and you are probably talking about them.


.....In fact the majority of Russians, the government and Putin are devout Orthodox Christians who believe in a God just like you do. Apparently you haven't got your facts straight again.
Muslims/Islam are also divided. You don `t know it ?

There is always someone who impersonates others.
Jesus said to his disciples: Those who will look like sheep will come, but they will be wolves dressed in sheep's skin.
This is what Russia is doing now !

Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: lancaIV on April 14, 2022, 09:51:52 AM
onepower:

There are and have been many bad religions. You say the universe is renewing but who is doing it? where did he come from? I know you don't care because you don't want to believe in God as a creator. What's wrong with believing in God and loving another human being. You do the same thing every day, only instead of God you have money or other things you love.
Believing in God, I am sure that he listens to me and helps me because a rational man knows that he is not alone. I will not convince you because you have chosen your own way and let everyone go their own way.

If there was no faith in God long ago, people would have killed each other long ago.

Why do you want to live? what for ? why bother. That's what the cult believers said, and you are probably talking about them.


.....In fact the majority of Russians, the government and Putin are devout Orthodox Christians who believe in a God just like you do. Apparently you haven't got your facts straight again.
Muslims/Islam are also divided. You don `t know it ?

There is always someone who impersonates others.
Jesus said to his disciples: Those who will look like sheep will come, but they will be wolves dressed in sheep's skin.
This is what Russia is doing now !
        Religions/Deontology age in years

        Written languages age in years
        Spoken language age in years
        Spelled language age in years

https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+speak+and+spell+depeche+mode&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+speak+and+spell+depeche+mode&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
https://www.google.com/search?q=speaking+differs+from+spelling&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=speaking+differs+from+spelling&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)

        https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=vocals+based+language+&oq=vocals+based+language+&aqs=heirloom-srp (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=vocals+based+language+&oq=vocals+based+language+&aqs=heirloom-srp)..


https://www.google.com/search?q=consonants+based+language&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=consonants+based+language&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
Function of vocals and consonants and ARTICULATION/BETONUNG von ORT/ZEIT SUBJEKT OBJEKT



Ernst-Sprache or Unterhaltungs-Sprache

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=human+evolution+steps+&oq=human+evolution+steps+&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l1 (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=human+evolution+steps+&oq=human+evolution+steps+&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l1)
https://www.google.com/search?q=human+evolution&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=human+evolution&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)


https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=human+evolution+steps+&oq=human+evolution+steps+&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l1 (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=human+evolution+steps+&oq=human+evolution+steps+&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l1)

https://theconversation.com/curious-kids-who-came-up-with-the-first-letters-116816 (https://theconversation.com/curious-kids-who-came-up-with-the-first-letters-116816)
Humans began to communicate using speech some 50,000 years ago (http://whoami.sciencemuseum.org.uk/whoami/findoutmore/yourbrain/whatisspecialabouthumanlanguage/whendidhumansstarttalking) but writing has only been a part of the human story for the last 5,000 years.
                                                                       50 000 years ago  speech

                                                https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cro-Magnon-Mensch (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cro-Magnon-Mensch)
                                                            for " Europe," ,endemical/migrant ? the de-sighner
                                           
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Homo_lumper_(deutsch)-Cro-Magnon.JPG (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Homo_lumper_(deutsch)-Cro-Magnon.JPG)

https://www.google.com/search?q=felshoehlen%21alereien&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=felshoehlen%21alereien&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)

Laut einer Berechnung von Isabell Schmidt und Andreas Zimmermann (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Zimmermann_(Arch%C3%A4ologe)) (Universität zu Köln (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universit%C3%A4t_zu_K%C3%B6ln)) aus dem Jahr 2019 lebten in der Zeitspanne von etwa 42.000 bis etwa 33.000 Jahren vor heute (cal BP (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_BP)) maximal rund 3300 Individuen in West- und Mitteleuropa.[33] (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cro-Magnon-Mensch#cite_note-33) „Nur fünf Gebiete in Europa hatten nach diesen Schätzungen überhaupt eine überlebensfähige Population von etwa 150 Personen oder mehr: Nordspanien, Südwestfrankreich, Belgien, Teile Tschechiens und der obere Donauraum. Dass die Zentren dieser lebensfähigen Populationen etwa 400 Kilometer voneinander entfernt waren, ist ein europaweit einheitliches Muster.“[34] (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cro-Magnon-Mensch#cite_note-34) Daneben seien noch weitere Gebiete Europas zumindest zyklisch – während bestimmter Jahreszeiten – besiedelt gewesen. Es habe sich um „hochmobile Jäger-Sammler Gruppen“ gehandelt, „die regelmäßig Distanzen von 200 km zurücklegten und zudem an verschiedene Habitate angepasst waren.“
                                                                         5 000 years ago  writtings

https://web.archive.org/web/20180503192928/http://whoami.sciencemuseum.org.uk/whoami/findoutmore (https://web.archive.org/web/20180503192928/http://whoami.sciencemuseum.org.uk/whoami/findoutmore)

https://web.archive.org/web/20180408154550/http://whoami.sciencemuseum.org.uk/whoami/findoutmore/yourbrain/whatisspecialabouthumanlanguage/whendidhumansstarttalking (https://web.archive.org/web/20180408154550/http://whoami.sciencemuseum.org.uk/whoami/findoutmore/yourbrain/whatisspecialabouthumanlanguage/whendidhumansstarttalking)
                             Human language probably started to develop around 100,000 years ago.
https://web.archive.org/web/20180419092350/http://whoami.sciencemuseum.org.uk/whoami/findoutmore (https://web.archive.org/web/20180419092350/http://whoami.sciencemuseum.org.uk/whoami/findoutmore/yourbrain/whatisspecialabouthumanlanguage/whendidhumansstarttalking/whatislanguage)

/yourbrain/whatisspecialabouthumanlanguage/whendidhumansstarttalking/whatislanguage (https://web.archive.org/web/20180419092350/http://whoami.sciencemuseum.org.uk/whoami/findoutmore/yourbrain/whatisspecialabouthumanlanguage/whendidhumansstarttalking/whatislanguage)

https://web.archive.org/web/20180419061417/http://whoami.sciencemuseum.org.uk/whoami/findoutmore/yourbrain/whatisspecialabouthumanlanguage (https://web.archive.org/web/20180419061417/http://whoami.sciencemuseum.org.uk/whoami/findoutmore/yourbrain/whatisspecialabouthumanlanguage)

https://www.br.de/wissen/schrift-ursprung-keilschrift-mesopotamien-100.html (https://www.br.de/wissen/schrift-ursprung-keilschrift-mesopotamien-100.html)
https://www.br.de/radio/bayern2/sendungen/radiowissen/erfindung-der-schrift-100.html (https://www.br.de/radio/bayern2/sendungen/radiowissen/erfindung-der-schrift-100.html)

https://www.google.com/search?q=runen+oldest&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=runen+oldest&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_religion (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_religion)
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/oldest-religions-in-the-world.html (https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/oldest-religions-in-the-world.html)



 But,the known ' pragmatic' philosophies and their values ,philology/yPhysiology relationship :
                        Philosophy and Philology and Physiology  : difference ? In application ? In understanding ?

                                                          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nfFnbBUkxes (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nfFnbBUkxes)

                                      TOTAL LANGUAGES LAWS applied TOTAL in TOTAL-PHYSICS,ASRT and ASRP
                                           VOR-STELLUNGS-KRAFT IMAGINATIONS-STAERKE ,ZIEL: MOTIV VOTIV
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: kolbacict on April 14, 2022, 10:23:23 AM
In fact the majority of Russians, the government and Putin are devout Orthodox Christians who believe in a God just like you do.
No. It's not.  :)
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: lancaIV on April 14, 2022, 10:45:56 AM
No. It's not.  :)
  ::)   https://www.google.com/search?q=Gott+in+russisch+kyrillisch&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=Gott+in+russisch+kyrillisch&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
https://de.langenscheidt.com/deutsch-russisch/gott (https://de.langenscheidt.com/deutsch-russisch/gott)    MASKULIN  :-\
   Werdet doch mal WACH(T),Maenneken und Weiblein !

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=Bog+fuer+Gott+bedeutung+&oq=Bog+fuer+Gott+bedeutung+&aqs=heirloom-srp (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=Bog+fuer+Gott+bedeutung+&oq=Bog+fuer+Gott+bedeutung+&aqs=heirloom-srp)..

       BOG ~ FRIEDE RUHE NIRWANA NIHILISTIK SAETTIGUNG LEERE  - ABSOLUT, oder hinfuehrend -
       BOG ~ RUHEPOL SCHWEIGEN STILLE GENUSS "SPRACHLOS" "OHNE WORTE" "NO COMMENT "
       BOG ~ shalom ~ saalam ~ PEACE ~ PAZ ~ PACE ~ ........ aber all dieses ungeschrieben,darin sein


       https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veles_(Gott (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veles_(Gott))  Naturalismus
Als Gott der Erde (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erdg%C3%B6ttin) ist Veles der Gegenpol zum Donnergott (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donnergott) Perun (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perun), was dem Gegensatz zwischen dem indischen Indra (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra) und dem Dämon Vala (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vala_(D%C3%A4mon)&action=edit&redlink=1) entspricht und auf ein hohes Alter dieses Kultes hinweist. Veles wird als gehörnte Schlange mit einem langen Bart dargestellt.
Veles wird vor allem in russischen Quellen genannt und trägt dort den Beinamen skotij bog  ‚Gott des Viehs‘. Aus den übrigen Gebieten sind nur Andeutungen in Orts- und Personennamen, Sprichwörtern und Liedern überliefert. Mit ihm sind südrussische Erntebräuche (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Erntebrauch&action=edit&redlink=1) verknüpft, in denen die ersten oder letzten Getreidegarben (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbe_(Landwirtschaft)) den Göttern, Naturdämonen oder Heiligen geopfert wurden. Die Benennung der Plejaden (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plejaden) bei den Ost- (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostslawen) und Südslawen (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%BCdslawen) als Volosyni (russisch), Vlascite (bulgarisch) oder Vlašići (serbisch und kroatisch) wird ebenfalls mit Veles in Verbindung gebracht. Sein Name erscheint noch in den mittelalterlichen russischen Heldenliedern, den Bylinen (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bylina). Der hellsehende Sänger Bojan tritt darin als sein Enkel auf.
Im 10. Jahrhundert wurde Veles als Gott der Rechtsordnung neben Perun auch beim Abschluss der russischen (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiewer_Rus) Verträge mit dem byzantinischen Reich (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantinisches_Reich) angerufen. Idole (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idol) der Gottheit erwähnen die Legenden des Heiligen Wladimir (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wladimir_I.) und des Hl. Avraam Rostovskij (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Avraam_Rostovskij&action=edit&redlink=1): Fürst Wladimir I. ließ nach seiner Taufe eine Statue des Veles in den Fluss werfen, Avraam vernichtete ein Steinidol in Rostow (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rostow).
Nach der Christianisierung (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianisierung) wurde Veles zum Teufel (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teufel) umgedeutet, sein Name taucht in dieser Funktion in Sprichwörtern auf. Die Rolle des Viehbeschützers übernahm, vermutlich aufgrund der Namensähnlichkeit, der Heilige Blasius (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasius_von_Sebaste)

https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11161 (https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11161)

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perun (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perun)
Die umfangreichste Dokumentation in schriftlichen Quellen stammt aus dem ostslawischen Bereich: Die Nestorchronik (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestorchronik) nennt Perun als göttlichen Bürgen für die Verträge der Kiewer Rus (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiewer_Rus) mit dem Byzantinischen Reich (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantinisches_Reich) in den Jahren 907, 912, 945 und 971. Im Jahr 980 ließ ihm Fürst Wladimir I. (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wladimir_I.) in Kiew (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiew) ein Holzidol (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Holzidol&action=edit&redlink=1) mit silbernem Kopf und goldenem Bart errichten, ein weiteres Standbild entstand zeitgleich in Nowgorod (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nowgorod). Doch bereits 988/989 wurden beide Idole im Zuge der Christianisierung (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianisierung) zerstört. Die Verehrung des Donnergottes ist im Volksglauben (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksglauben) aber bis weit in die Neuzeit, bei den Bulgaren (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgaren) bis in das 18. Jahrhundert nachweisbar.

        https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panslawismus (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panslawismus)  fuer Gesamtslawismus ( weniger Panfloetengott-Slawismus)

Ursprünge und literarischer PanslawismusBearbeiten (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Panslawismus&action=edit&section=3) Bereits im 17. Jahrhundert (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/17._Jahrhundert)[2] (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panslawismus#cite_note-Murray-2) schrieb der kroatische (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kroatien) Russlandreisende Juraj Križanić (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juraj_Kri%C5%BEani%C4%87) eine Reihe politischer, theologischer, linguistischer und geschichtlicher Werke, in denen er zu einer Vereinigung aller Slawen (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slawen) unter russischer Führung aufrief. Dabei ging er von einem gegenreformatorischen (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gegenreformation) Standpunkt aus, der eine Union der Kirche forderte und muslimische (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam) Osmanen (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osmanisches_Reich) und protestantische (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantismus) Deutsche (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutschland) verurteilte. Er war jedoch ein Einzelgänger, dem es nicht gelang, eine Bewegung zu entfachen.
Der Panslawismus entstand als romantische Tendenz innerhalb der slawischen Völker im Zeitalter des Vormärz (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorm%C3%A4rz), als Reaktion auf die Unterdrückung durch die Restauration (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restauration_(Geschichte)).[2] (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panslawismus#cite_note-Murray-2) Einige der frühesten Erscheinungsformen der panslawischen Idee innerhalb der Habsburgermonarchie sind auf Jan Kollár (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Koll%C3%A1r) und Pavel Jozef Šafárik (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Jozef_%C5%A0af%C3%A1rik) zurückzuführen.[2] (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panslawismus#cite_note-Murray-2)[3] (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panslawismus#cite_note-3) Ausgangspunkt der Bewegung war der deutsche romantische Nationalismus (Herder und seine Volksdefinition).[4] (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panslawismus#cite_note-4)[2] (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panslawismus#cite_note-Murray-2)
Der Begriff „Panslawismus“ wurde 1826 zum ersten Mal benutzt, als der Slowake (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slowakei) Jan Herkel (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jan_Herkel&action=edit&redlink=1) eine gemeinsame slawische Sprache (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slawische_Sprachen) forderte, in der eine allen Slawen verständliche Literatur („sive verus panslavismus“) geschrieben werden könnte. Bei dieser ersten Phase handelte es sich um eine vornehmlich literarische Idee, die noch nicht mit politischen Forderungen einherging.[5] (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panslawismus#cite_note-5)

  writing speaking spelling laws !? Incl. temporal/regional language re-/formation,fixation: first dictionary !?

                  new migrants influence,other religions ( jiddisch,ashkanasi,sefardisch),turk-mongolean

                                                cristianisation influence : (old,new)greek-kyrill / latinum

                                                Slave  Slawe  Sloawe Sklave Slowake Slowen

                                                Ober-/Unter-  Kaernten Krainer Krajina

                                                          " Deutsch-Slawien",Sorben et cet.
                                         https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WeC8doU-zps (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WeC8doU-zps)

Angeln,Sachsen,Friesen,Franken ,Alemannen,Hessen,Awaren, ......  + romano/ladinisch

        "Latein"  : auf platt- duetch/dutch/dieutsch/deutz/teutsch  gesprochen
Eine Viel-Voelker-Konfederation genannt Bundesrepublik Deutschland Federal Republik of Germamy Alemagne

                                                                      Eine Voelker-Union



Kiewer Rus  ,da der (Stimm-Laut = )Vokal u oft auch mit stimmlichen jeweiligem aeio ersetzt wird ist die Bezeichnung dem heutigen RAS in
daenisch-skandinavischen,aber auch altdeutschem vorzufinden,da der heutige Term " der Rat " vormals ,vor institutlicher Fixierung,Radt Rath Radth geschrieben wurde,dabei die phonetische Differenz " hartes und weiches," zu beachten ist so ein "hartes d" von einem " weichem d" zu unterscheiden ist : weich ist es wie ein sh zu behandeln,phonetisch ,aehnlich th im Englischem !
Kiewer Rus also mit " Kiewer Rat " oder als hegemonialer Begriff " Kiewer Reich" ,da der Begriff Rat
dem Begriff Sovjet/Sowjet gleichgestellt ist :  Kiewer Sovjet

Weimarer Raete-Republik oder Weimarer Sovjet-Republik ,in der Bedeutung identisch !
Bundesrat = Bundessovjet     Bundestag = Bundesras

Ras fuer Rat oder Tagung/Versammlung/Konferenz vom 24 h/lichten Tag zu unterscheiden :

Dagblad oder Tageblatt als Zeitung

Wir differenzieren inhaltlich,siehe rechtliche Differenzierung Eigentum/Besitz  andere haben dafuer nur einen einzigen Begriff ,Eigentum=Besitz ,was falsch ist ! Etwas ausleihen = kein Eigentumswechsel ,Besitz/Nutzer ja !



Auf der Suche nach dem " Platz an der Sonne" ,nem ' heimeligen Schattenplatz',unter der Glucke,im Warmen ?

                                     The easiest and shortest way to "felicita" ? Genuegsamkeit
     
               https://www.linguee.de/deutsch-englisch/uebersetzung/gen%C3%BCgsamkeit.html (https://www.linguee.de/deutsch-englisch/uebersetzung/gen%C3%BCgsamkeit.html)
                                            https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epikureismus (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epikureismus)

           
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ataraxie (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ataraxie)
                                              ? Beispiel ! ?
"des Ko(s)miker gespielte Hohe Kunst " : nen ganzen Tach (kurz oder lang ) Baum

                                  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i9SgCXzmgoc (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i9SgCXzmgoc)
                                  Verdrehte Welt : Ernst,nich oder Unterhaltung  !?
                                  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nCUtEKFn07I (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nCUtEKFn07I)




https://www-spirit--impuls-de.translate.goog/geschichte-der-fischer-und-der-investmentbanker?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://www-spirit--impuls-de.translate.goog/geschichte-der-fischer-und-der-investmentbanker?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp)


Mit Zeitgeist und Ortgeist lebendig sein , wie im Himmel so auf Erden

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&ei=Xv9XYoP1PKqHxc8P87qwoAE&q=beweine+nicht+die+toten+beweinen+die+lebenden&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiDnJ3js5P3AhWqQ_EDHXMdDBQQ7Al6BAgBEAI&biw=600&bih=784#imgrc=Tp6uMIv3sinYcM (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&ei=Xv9XYoP1PKqHxc8P87qwoAE&q=beweine+nicht+die+toten+beweinen+die+lebenden&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiDnJ3js5P3AhWqQ_EDHXMdDBQQ7Al6BAgBEAI&biw=600&bih=784#imgrc=Tp6uMIv3sinYcM)
                                             Die Seele baumeln,galgen(-humorig) ,lassen

                                       https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm8UWmXCMAg (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm8UWmXCMAg)
                                                    vom Original linguistisch modified

                                                       Lyrics : english/deutsche Version

AUS WIKIPEDIA für alle gläubigen mit wenig oder ohne Humor.

 "Die Satire zielt auf den Dogmatismus religiöser und politischer Gruppen. Insbesondere christliche, aber auch jüdische Vereinigungen reagierten mit scharfen Protesten auf die Veröffentlichung. Die folgenden Aufführungsboykotte und -verbote in Ländern wie den USA, Großbritannien oder Norwegen fachten die Kontroverse um Meinungsfreiheit und Blasphemie weiter an. Obwohl der Vorwurf der Blasphemie von praktisch allen Seiten entkräftet wurde, ist die Satire nach wie vor bei strenggläubigen Christen umstritten und gilt aufgrund ihrer rezeptionsgeschichtlichen Bedeutung als Paradebeispiel für die Reibungspunkte zwischen künstlerischer Meinungsfreiheit und Religionstoleranz. Filmkritiker und die Pythons selbst bezeichnen Monty Python's Life of Brian aufgrund seiner kohärenten Geschichte und intellektuellen Substanz als das reifste Werk der Komikergruppe. Zahlreiche Umfragen bestätigen den anhaltenden Erfolg beim Publikum. Das Abschlusslied Always Look on the Bright Side of Life wurde weit über den Filmkontext hinaus bekannt."


FROM WIKIPEDIA for all believers with little or no humor.
 "The satire aims at the dogmatism of religious and political groups. In particular, Christian, but also Jewish associations reacted to the publication with sharp protests. The subsequent performance boycotts and bans in countries such as the USA, Great Britain and Norway fanned the controversy about freedom of expression and blasphemy further Although the allegation of blasphemy has been refuted by practically all sides, the satire is still controversial among devout Christians and is considered a prime example of the friction between artistic freedom of expression and religious tolerance due to its historical importance.Film critics and the Pythons themselves describe Monty Python's Life of Brian as the comedy group's most mature work due to its coherent story and intellectual substance. Numerous polls confirm its continued success with audiences. The closing song Always Look on the Bright Side of Life was well over known beyond the context of the film."


Tuntenficker kennen keinen Humor ,scheinbar ! ::)
Aeh,schlusz mit Spaczegeselshafft !
Is dok so,Harry(nit https://www.welt.de/print-welt/article363964/Mit-Hakenkreuz-zur-Party-Prinz-Harry-macht-Skandal.html )

sonern ( ohne d ) der https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qCX2dRFTMw
 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qCX2dRFTMw
Nu wird 1000 Jahre oder mehr rueck-getrashed !
Voller Trash,im voraus :

https://m.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/die-passion-rtl-musical-mit-gottschalk-klaws-und-endlich-17957920.html



 
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: onepower on April 14, 2022, 04:41:10 PM
r2fpl
Quote
You say the universe is renewing but who is doing it? where did he come from?

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." ― Mark Twain

Quote
If there was no faith in God long ago, people would have killed each other long ago.
Why do you want to live? what for ? why bother. That's what the cult believers said, and you are probably talking about them.

"Our world is not divided by race, color, gender, or religion. Our world is divided into wise people and fools. And fools divide themselves by race, color, gender, or religion." Nelson Mandela

AC
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: r2fpl on April 14, 2022, 05:25:04 PM
r2fpl
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." ― Mark Twain

"Our world is not divided by race, color, gender, or religion. Our world is divided into wise people and fools. And fools divide themselves by race, color, gender, or religion." Nelson Mandela

AC

These words do not apply to people who believe in God, but M. Twain was similar in his views of life to Stalin, Lenin, Hitler and many others whom you probably consider an authority. They considered people who believed in God to be evil to be killed. Why ? explain it if you can.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: stivep on April 16, 2022, 02:04:05 PM
human elements of every nation are the members.
In Russia unprivileged members limited access to the information allows elites and those who are privileged
often to use and abuse them.
in my personal opinion it is Mafia style structure based on fear.
Russian nation was in average earning from $100-$300 per month per person.
Today you can't buy a 1 dollar officially or not -  even for 300 rubles while official Russian price for one dollar is for example 82 rubles, – think about bent reality in some sort of horror movie.


Moscow and St. Petersburg were serving as a centers while rest of the country was
often culturally, structurally, technologically, socially, in abandonment

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aggression of Russian Federation on Ukraine revealed that theft of ceramic toilets by  Russians (soldiers) who didn't have and use them in Russia was extremely important trophy to them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet)
used and ripped off the removed Ukrainian toilets were transported to Belarus and then sent by post office there into Russian houses.


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morale of Russian army is low. They don't want to die for privileged Russian elite/Mafia agenda.Ukrainians have no were to go and must fight
 Russian army is an aggressor.
Wesley
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: stivep on April 16, 2022, 03:11:05 PM
Please watch this video, very important.

https://youtu.be/aqKfSbhm6yo (https://youtu.be/aqKfSbhm6yo)
this and that guy next video review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ppIR_zd_uQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ppIR_zd_uQ)
it shows that he is in business of promoting the book :"the most dangerous superstition"
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some intelligent moneymaker uses his skills – well nothing wrong.
In the same time you are becoming a victim of his oral skills.
The guy has no idea about Eastern Europe and its conflicts.
He admits that but at the same time he's driving you into absolutely wrong, conclusions.
China's big wall historically made more damage to the Chinese,
intellectually, technologically, socially,then the benefit of planned isolation.
In contrast Russia was expansive, dictatorship, and monarchy.Despite all political changes the character of Russian reality remained.
Starting from 1917 the communist revolution Russia was ruled not by kings and czars but by dictators.
They were even worse and created terror at unprecedented scale. But the nation that didn't know what is freedom was told that the suffering
is only temporary and is leading to better bigger and brighter future of their children.and that did of course never happened.


conclusions:
the author negates existing Western mechanisms proposing nothing but madness – no skeleton of new and better word was ever proposed by him.
In the same time Eastern European countries dreams about system and freedom Western world already has achieved.
In my personal opinion this guy would be a perfect tool for Russian propaganda that is willing collapse of Western values .
But if that guy was doing exactly the same speech in Russia for Russian audience he would end up in the biggest Russian jail or got killed.

Wesley
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: stivep on April 16, 2022, 04:00:55 PM
These words do not apply to people who believe in God, but M. Twain was similar in his views of life to
Stalin, Lenin, Hitler and many others whom you probably consider an authority.
They considered people who believed in God to be evil to be killed. Why ? explain it if you can.
by physics, natural history, Darwin, official science, archaeology, biology, and all other existing evidence:
-no God or God's or any other belief based power exists or ever existed or will ever be able or willing to prove its existence.
In other words God is not recognized by modern science.

That of course doesn't affect anyone of you as civilization gives you rights to believe in whatever you want, whenever you want, and when you want.
I am Jewish and I respect that very much.
But I'm of course in physics and that I respected very much.
I promote and support official modern science and its models.
As a person dedicated to science I agree with every bit of recognized documented scientific data,and it's models.

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so why are you outside of your house with the dog – because you do it for that dog.
so why some of you are going to church - often because of your religious parents or family members or because of fear of being punished.
So why some of you are lying – because of the fear  of that truth damaging power.
So why in USA you are filing taxes voluntarily, on time and as truthful as you can- because of fear of being punished if ever.
_______________________________________
we do it because we trust the system as made on the rules obeyed by both the government and the nation.
And of course Russians don't do it.
Wesley
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: onepower on April 16, 2022, 05:08:06 PM
stivep
Well said and there is presently a war against science and facts.

Religion/Authoritarianism demands people believe in falsehoods without question but science asks only that we look at the evidence and decide for ourselves. Science is also based on education, to educate ourselves about how nature works to better ourselves.

More important science teaches us to question everything and demand proof. To act like a real man, a responsible intelligent man who can think for himself and doesn't need to follow others.

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so why some of you are going to church - often because of your religious parents or family members or because of fear of being punished.

Indeed, in ancient times many leaders and governments created gods to control the population. They found the mostly uneducated masses might question a leader but seldom if ever an imaginary all seeing god. Then they came up with a clever solution, the leaders would claim to speak the word of there god thus in effect become one, a man-god. Thus mere men could make others do and believe whatever they wanted and never have to deal with the consequences. It was not them commanding others to do all those things, it was a god.

It was devised as a means to control the poor so they wouldn't try to overthrow the wealthy who were robbing them blind. The narrative was that the poor and uneducated should be content with there life of servitude and never question authority. This was the true narrative which was taught, that no authority should be questioned. It was about control, wealth and power.

So, of course, science and facts which questioned everything was seen as an abomination much like today.

In my opinion what's going on in places like Russia, China, the Middle East and to a lesser degree North America is similar. Generations have been taught to never question authority in whatever form it may take, be it an imaginary god, man-god or government. They have literally been born into and taught a clever form of servitude and slavery.

Regards
AC

Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: r2fpl on April 16, 2022, 06:44:51 PM
Man has been living for millions of years (1) and several thousand years, but recently we have a technique that, instead of answering questions, causes further questions. The more you know, the less you know. These are the words of the philosopher. Why is it like that ? why in the smallest particle there is always another still smaller? and there will be one more and again. We people, in their arrogance, want to know everything. We are a fish in an aquarium that will know only what they give it.
There will always be opponents of faith in God and will question his existence. It is even recorded in the Bible. 1900 years ago this was already known and it is now happening.
The orders and prohibitions are so that people do not kill each other because if there was no punishment, everyone would kill another person for an evil look, even and this is obvious. People over 1 million years ago prayed to the stones and the sun, believing that there was someone above them, and now people say that they are alone but are looking for foreign civilization. It is interesting.

Every faith in a good God is good and leads to life, and where there is no God, there is no life. What is this life in forced labor camps in China or North Korea? They do not tolerate any God except their leader and party.

We will all find out who was right, but until then, no one has to be an enemy to himself. Everyone should do for others what they like for themselves.
It is also true that the wars were religiously motivated, but were these wars good for the people? Does history teach others not to do this ?! Why learn history when we don't draw conclusions!

Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: r2fpl on April 16, 2022, 07:08:00 PM
aggression of Russian Federation on Ukraine revealed that theft of ceramic toilets by  Russians (soldiers) who didn't have and use them in Russia was extremely important trophy to them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet)
used and ripped off the removed Ukrainian toilets were transported to Belarus and then sent by post office there into Russian houses.


Russians are the same all the time. They still steal instead of thinking how to buy, make a nice new toilet. Just because they are poor doesn't mean they can be thieves and murderers. Robbing other countries. The world should finally stop and block the possibility of making wars. That, of course, will be when there are only a few million people left in the world after the world war.
The EU just wants to be comfortable and allows for the killing of those poorer than them. They don't understand that Russia will keep moving forward. The Lusters have their bunkers.
Russians believe in Putin and even if it is not 85% but 50%, it is still very disturbing for all of us. Russian citizens will even support a nuclear attack but do not believe that bombs will not fall on them. Until the Russian people feel what their president is doing, nothing will change. These people have a problem because they have closed handbag stores for them. This is terrible! they have no compassion for anyone other than themselves. Russia is destroying the Ukrainian people by murdering them. They use a forbidden weapon. They are like cowards because when children and the elderly, civilians, are murdered instead of soldiers, it is a genocide which aims to exterminate the citizens of Ukraine, Free Ukraine!


PL: chyba nie ma już wątpliwości że smolensk to robota tych cepów. Czy oni kiedykolwiek się do czegoś przyznali ? To się w pale nie mieści.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Paul-R on April 16, 2022, 10:35:08 PM

Russians believe in Putin and even if it is not 85% but 50%, it is still very disturbing for all of us.
This may be because they have no idea what is going on in Ukraine. The cost to their exchequer must be phenomenal. 3,000 military vehicles reported destroyed - but not confirmed.
What is needed is a radio station that cannot be jammed, if it exists. What about an AM transmitter in geostationary orbit (at 20,000 miles). Could one of such focus and power be designed?
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: onepower on April 16, 2022, 10:46:49 PM
r2fpl
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The orders and prohibitions are so that people do not kill each other because if there was no punishment, everyone would kill another person for an evil look, even and this is obvious. People over 1 million years ago prayed to the stones and the sun, believing that there was someone above them, and now people say that they are alone but are looking for foreign civilization.

This is absurd and the morality claim is a common fallacy.

If there were literally no laws or prohibitions tomorrow I would not change nor would most people I know. Intelligent people understand that if we treat others badly that gives them cause to do the same to us, thus we don't do it. You should recognize the theme as do not judge or you to will be judged in the same way. What goes around comes around or karma.

Most intelligent people are naturally moral people because they understand the consequences of there actions. It's the stupid people we have to watch out for because they believe there are no consequences to there actions. So the majority of killing and barbarism in the past came to an end because of education not religion.

For example, soon alternative and free energy technologies will go mainstream and all the wars over fossil fuels will be a thing of the past. People will become more educated about better more efficient ways of doing things. There will be no need to fight over energy and we will move into a new era.

I think this may be why Russia went to war with Ukraine. They have a primitive resource based economy with little or no technology sector. Renewable and alternative energy was eventually going to wipe out there fossil fuel sector and bankrupt them. So they needed to weaken other economies, disrupt supply lines and create a distraction. Why not a war?.

In fact, it backfired on them and now everyone I know is talking about EV's and renewable energy because of high energy prices. Russia literally accelerated the one thing they were trying to avoid. I'm not sure how Putin could be so stupid and they seem to have forgotten the saying, necessity is the mother of invention.

Regards
AC


Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: stivep on April 16, 2022, 11:50:16 PM
stivep
Well said and there is presently a war against science and facts.

In my opinion what's going on in places like Russia, China, the Middle East and to a lesser degree North America is similar. Generations have been taught to never question authority in whatever form it may take, be it an imaginary god, man-god or government. They have literally been born into and taught a clever form of servitude and slavery.

Regards
AC
I do appreciate very much your opinion .Well done
Wesley

Russians are the same all the time. They still steal instead of thinking how to buy,
PL: chyba nie ma już wątpliwości że smolensk to robota tych cepów. Czy oni kiedykolwiek się do czegoś przyznali ? To się w pale nie mieści.
nie mam watpliwosci,,
thank you very much
Wesley
This may be because they have no idea what is going on in Ukraine. The cost to their exchequer must be phenomenal. 3,000 military vehicles reported destroyed - but not confirmed.
What is needed is a radio station that cannot be jammed, if it exists. What about an AM transmitter in geostationary orbit (at 20,000 miles). Could one of such focus and power be designed?
It is unfortunate but it'll unlikely be done simply because of :
-nature of electromagnetic waves,
-and lack of interest of technology advanced nations.
-unwillingness of Russian nation to be educated about world and its rules outside of Russian Federation.

summary:

it was done on the Internet YouTube by:
-radio free Europe na Ruskom ( Radio Svoboda)
-voice of America  na Ruskom
-Deutsche Welle  na Ruskom
-BBC  na Ruskom
-Belsat, VOT TAK
-Radio Svoboda  na Ruskom
-Current Time  na Ruskom
- Navalnyi Live,  Aleksei Navalnyi
______________________________________________________

you can't educate masses dominated by Russian TV propaganda;
and the only "language they will obey"{ is someone's strength overpowering them,
Wesley
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: kolbacict on April 17, 2022, 09:04:45 AM
What about an AM transmitter
There is AM broadcasting is normal, not satellite, it has.
In the western part, the signal is weak, but it is reseived, you can listen.
Ukraine broadcasts it, in the Ukrainian language. But no one listens to him,
he does not need anyone. Everyone is watching TV. ;D
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Paul-R on April 17, 2022, 11:32:13 AM
There is AM broadcasting is normal, not satellite, it has.
In the western part, the signal is weak, but it is reseived, you can listen.
Ukraine broadcasts it, in the Ukrainian language. But no one listens to him,
he does not need anyone. Everyone is watching TV. ;D
People will go for radio if there is useful content. Do you know the frequency or the name of this radio station?
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: kolbacict on April 17, 2022, 08:13:13 PM
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Do you know the frequency or the name of this radio station?
Previously, they were at a frequency of 550 kHz. Now they have gone higher, I can’t say for sure.
This is Kiev radio, it has always existed before. Broadcasting, I think from the territory of Ukraine ...
The signal strength is low.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: stivep on April 17, 2022, 09:32:34 PM
Previously, they were at a frequency of 550 kHz. Now they have gone higher, I can’t say for sure.
This is Kiev radio, it has always existed before. Broadcasting, I think from the territory of Ukraine ...
The signal strength is low.

Low frequency is the ITU designation for radio frequencies in the range of 30–300 kHz. Since its wavelengths range from 10–1 km, respectively,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_frequency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_frequency)


Although my direction in physics is particle physics,
I happened to be to be quite good or possibly extremely good in most of directions related to
electromagnetic radiation, in entire spectrum from VLF to gamma radiation,
radio waves,
propagation,
antennas,
transmitters and receivers /transceivers,
transmission lines,
waveguides,
solid-state and tube based amplifiers,
means and modes of modulation,
_______________________________
measurement and sensing of electromagnetic waves:
Vector network analysis,
impedance matching,energy transfer,
energy extraction and conversion,
practical communication and related problems specific to a given mode and frequency.

_________________________________
there is a number of limitations of satellites using transmitters operating at very low frequencies.
It is mostly due to the size of an antenna its gain overall performance and very specific propagation characteristic
at for example 550 kHz.
some attempts have been made mostly by Chinese look at link below
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-981-15-5833-7_8 (https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-981-15-5833-7_8)
other links:
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19880005522 (https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19880005522)

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in Western world, there is no propaganda and money first.
Nobody's interested with making Russian nation able to understand.
Looking at horrifying activity of Russian occupants at Ukrainian land peaceful Westerners would rather want them
to be isolated from rest of our civilized space.
Killers raping stilling damaging horrifying for no other reason than yeah ..just
one 70 years old Czar-the king of Russia, agenda,. ... didn't deserve that much of an attention.

Although rights to equality, dignity, and value, belongs to every human including Russians,
we have now (outside of Russian Federation) plenty of people who are  in  shame  or in fear  to admit that they are Russians.
Wesley
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: stivep on April 17, 2022, 10:32:31 PM

Nobody's interested with making Russian nation able to understand.


looking at the posts I got into conclusion :
 you do not have Free Energy device
just because you don't want it.

there you have it all.
You have also step-by-step instruction in 2 languages.
You have instruction how to choose the functionality of the device.
You have a variation of the device that serves as:
–Kapanadze device
-energy sending from point A to point B device
-energy extracting from Schumann waveguide device


In my videos and in Link below :https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/240/ (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/240/)
https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg559510/#msg559510 (https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg559510/#msg559510)
this link is in Russian language.


This is the unfortunate truth about Russians and not only.
Some of you may ask a question,why don't I make a device promote it,
manufacture it, and sell it.

The answer is simple.
I am an American not Russian.
My biggest joy is to understand processes.
Minimalist, enjoying life, taking the best of it.

Russians - well....   some  Russians,
tried to send me and Tariel Kapanadze into the Russian heaven in 2011 by terminating us both.
But I was lucky and Tariel who was an alcoholic couldn't eat much so he was just  sick and unconscious for three days after that.

Wesley
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: activ25 on April 17, 2022, 11:44:08 PM
I think the war will increase more and more. The recent lost of a warship is not good at all. I don't ear good news from that war, it is more an more bad news
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: kolbacict on April 18, 2022, 09:54:25 AM
looking at the posts I got into conclusion :
 you do not have Free Energy device
just because you don't want it.

no, I have it. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRjGm9G4ivc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRjGm9G4ivc)
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Cadman on April 18, 2022, 08:09:28 PM
in Western world, there is no propaganda ....

Wesley

How could you possibly believe that? Network news programs are the propaganda arm of the ruling elite in the US! Even local news programs are involved!  >:(

Sorry, off topic I know.

Cadman
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: onepower on April 19, 2022, 02:05:57 AM
People are crazy...
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: stivep on April 19, 2022, 05:18:13 PM
in Western world, there is no propaganda and money first.
Nobody's interested with making Russian nation able to understand.

How could you possibly believe that?
Network news programs are the propagandaarm of the ruling elite in the US!
Even local news programs are involved!  >:(
Cadman
The problem is the word “belief.”
Science isn’t about “belief.” It’s about facts, evidence, theories, experiments.
You don’t say, “I believe in thermodynamics.”
You understand its laws and the evidence for them, or you don’t. “Belief” doesn’t really enter into it.
So as a proper formulation, saying “I understand science” would be a start. “
https://www.thebulwtalkark.com/why-i-dont-believe-in-science/ (https://www.thebulwtalkark.com/why-i-dont-believe-in-science/)

Social relation and its tools like news network is ruled by science too.
in Russia everything is closed, forbidden, restricted, for example:
you would be arrested if you are:
 -standing with white empty piece of paper
-standing with anything written on this piece of paper
-or just by standing and having nothing in your hands

-talking to other people
-not talking to other people
-placing black tape on your lips

-having proof of being innocent
-not having proof of being innocent
-or not being in the place of offense at all.
all of it doesn't help and makes you punished based on court's decision.
Typical punishment is from three days to 15 years in heavy labor prison.

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grey color in the morning looks like less black than the same gray color late evening.
Western world has nothing to do with propaganda in its Russian format.

easy explanation for you:in this video I'm showing something that you never saw in your lifetime.
Violent life of beta particles, in tiny piece of specimen.
https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI?t=350 (https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI?t=350)

But everybody around me passing by on the street would say, Wesley this is propaganda, we don't see any beta particles.and I would answer:
Compare it with violent life of betas in Chernobyl or volcano or life in Russia.

So quantitatively anything you would like to see as propaganda in Western world is like that tiny piece of specimen.
To really know what propaganda is you need to know what's going on in Russia.
Wesley
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: NickZ on April 19, 2022, 05:45:40 PM
   There may be much more to "Putin", than just him giving the orders.  As none of what he has done makes any sense. 
   When will we REALLY know what's going on? So, something can be done about it. Without any more people's life being affected.    Is there any difference, compared 911?   Or to Venezuela, where I'm from.
    There are madmen everywhere... And they would like us dead, and in eternal wars, while crashing our economic systems.    WHO are these few people, now controlling the world? We MUST stop them, before it's too late.

   NickZ
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: kolbacict on April 20, 2022, 05:34:38 AM
We MUST stop them, before it's too late.
The Western world cannot even refuse to buy energy resources from the aggressor. shame!
But you want to stop  the big boys.  ;D
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Paul-R on April 20, 2022, 10:59:59 AM

But you want to stop  the big boys.  ;D
Who are they?
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: kolbacict on April 20, 2022, 11:36:20 AM
These are the people Nick-Z is referring to.
I don't know. Probably the world behind the scenes ... :)
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Johan_1955 on April 20, 2022, 12:38:21 PM
Who are they?

https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/4A/4A92FD2FB4DAE3F773DB0B7742CF0F65_Coleman.-.CONSPIRATORS.HIERARCHY.-.THE.STORY.OF.THE.COMMITTEE.OF.300.R.pdf (https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/4A/4A92FD2FB4DAE3F773DB0B7742CF0F65_Coleman.-.CONSPIRATORS.HIERARCHY.-.THE.STORY.OF.THE.COMMITTEE.OF.300.R.pdf)
 .
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: ramset on April 20, 2022, 01:35:14 PM


https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/animals/easter-bunny-appears-to-direct-biden-away-from-afghanistan-question/vi-AAWmN89 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/animals/easter-bunny-appears-to-direct-biden-away-from-afghanistan-question/vi-AAWmN89)
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: NickZ on April 20, 2022, 04:42:00 PM
   Just the one "Big Boy" that lost his concience, needs to be stopped.He knows that he is dying and going to die soon, and will take a few hundred thousand with him. But, they will be waiting for him, on the other side. Where he can't hide from them, and they will do as they like with him, forever. That is what he really should be affaid of.
  The ETs will not allow him nor any one else to fuck up this planet and other related worlds with Nuclear weapons. Period.He thinks that he is in control. But, he's not...

    NickZ
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: onepower on April 21, 2022, 07:44:23 AM
NickZ
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There may be much more to "Putin", than just him giving the orders.  As none of what he has done makes any sense.
   When will we REALLY know what's going on? So, something can be done about it. Without any more people's life being affected.    Is there any difference, compared 911?   Or to Venezuela, where I'm from.
    There are madmen everywhere... And they would like us dead, and in eternal wars, while crashing our economic systems.    WHO are these few people, now controlling the world? We MUST stop them, before it's too late.

I think the war in Ukraine makes sense to Putin.

Russia is a backwards thinking failed state with no tech sector. If the rest of the world moves away from fossil fuels to clean energy Russia would go bankrupt. So they probably started the war thinking they could disrupt the global economy and stall the transition to clean energy. It's working...https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/20/us-uk-and-canada-walk-out-g20-meeting-war-in-ukraine-russia
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a breakdown in international relations would severely undermine the global economy’s recovery from the pandemic and add to soaring inflation, pushing millions more people into poverty worldwide.

In comments made shortly before the protest, the head of the IMF, Kristalina Georgieva, warned 75 years of development gains were being put at risk by a splintering of international cooperation.

It's always the same sad story, a bunch of old men scared to death of a changing world. Make no mistake these cowards would collapse the global economy and drag everyone back into the dark ages given the chance. There were countless times in our history when mankind made rapid progress in science and technology and each time the barbarian mobs destroyed the civilization.

As John Wayne once said...‘Life Is Hard; It’s Even Harder When You’re Stupid’

Regards
AC




Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: kolbacict on April 22, 2022, 06:59:32 AM
   Just the one "Big Boy" that lost his concience, needs to be stopped.
    NickZ
Well, stop him. :)
The West pays more than thirty times more for Russia's energy resources than it does for aid to Ukraine.
And already during the Second World War, American private companies sold oil products to Nazi Germany. :(  And the United States government turned a blind eye to it.
I am no longer surprised by anything. ;)
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Johnsmith on April 22, 2022, 06:50:24 PM
Well, stop him. :)
The West pays more than thirty times more for Russia's energy resources than it does for aid to Ukraine.
And already during the Second World War, American private companies sold oil products to Nazi Germany. :(  And the United States government turned a blind eye to it.
I am no longer surprised by anything. ;)


  What I don't understand is that with so much wealth in the world today why quality of life isn't more of a priority. Americans hate Norway (I'm 1/2 Norwegian) because it's
a socialist country. I do compare the U.S. to Ancient Rome which fell because its senators fought over its wealth and its people exploited who they could when then could.
That simply isn't how to be a World Leader. I think the U.S. can do much better but then Putin and Trump are friends. I'll always get a laugh out of that one.
With Putin however, I wonder if he might be more concerned about the position the EU and NATO are in. It's more about developing an economy which is why Russia has
such a large military.
 With Russia being such a large country, infrastructure should've been improved so people could be more connected. Even in a place like Yekaterinburg or Yakutsk parks
could've been buried in the ground (20,000 square meters or more) about 15 meters deep with plexiglass or glass overhead, double pane of course. Then with geothermal
heat Russians could go outside like it's summer when it's -20º C. And they could always have the glass ceiling rise to 10 meters or more above ground level with artificial
lighting for winter. And in the summer, just store the glass panels.
 People do need to be able to go outside and be comfortable and enjoy being active.
 
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: NickZ on April 24, 2022, 03:40:14 PM
   Putin is dying:   https://youtu.be/zZpt6d0P94k
      Like I said, those who he is responsible for having killed, will be waiting for him on the other side.
     NickZ


Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: onepower on April 24, 2022, 08:57:51 PM
Watched Evan Solomon on CTV roast the Russian ambassador, lol.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=2428255

Apparently the Russians are trying to peddle the bs story all the dead bodies and atrocities are fake news. I mean, the Russian ambassador may as well have pulled his pants down to his ankles and danced a jig because he looked like a complete fool.

Forget all the evidence, all the eye witness accounts and all the facts, it's all just fake news... right.

What's up with all these half-wits claiming everything they don't like is fake news?. Do they even realize how stupid they look?. That Russian ambassador is a real piece of work, lol.

Regards
AC

 

Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: stivep on April 24, 2022, 10:07:11 PM
Current situation - about Russian aggression in Ukraine.
History:

Russia gifted Crimea to the Ukrainians in 1954
when the fall of the Soviet Union seemed unimaginable.

Aug 18, 1991 · collapse of the Soviet Union, sequence of events that led to the dissolution of the Soviet Union
on December 31, 1991.
The former superpower was replaced by 15 independent countries:
Armenia,
Azerbaijan,
Belarus,
Estonia,
Georgia,
Kazakhstan,
Kyrgyzstan,
Latvia,
Lithuania,
Moldova,
Russia,
Tajikistan,
Turkmenistan,
Ukraine,
and Uzbekistan.


And in 2014, Ukrainians rose up and kicked out its Russian-backed president.
Russia invaded and took back Crimea while occupying parts of the so-called Donbas region,
a large coal mining and industrial territory.
Over 14,000 people’s deaths have occurred between the rebels and Ukrainian forces.
https://www.forbes.com (https://www.forbes.com/sites/kensilverstein/2022/01/05/a-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-would-have-profound-implications-on-international-energy-markets/?sh=79c13e644105#:~:text=A%20short%20history%3A%20Russia%20gifted%20Crimea%20to%20the,region%2C%20a%20large%20coal%20mining%20and%20industrial%20territory.)
Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine) on 24 February 2022.
Much of the international community (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_reactions_to_the_2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine) has condemned Russia
for its actions in post-revolutionary Ukraine, accusing
it of breaking international law and violating Ukrainian sovereignty.
Many countries implemented economic sanctions against Russia, Russian individuals, or companies (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War),[22] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War#cite_note-28)
especially after the 2022 invasion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War)

Today situation in Russia:

Asset freezing sanctions
Ban on Russian vessels and airplanes,
bans targeting Russia's technological and industry sector;
Ban on products In-N-Out of Russia,
Swift restrictions and ban on use of $.
ban on participation of Russian companies nor its activities,
Frozen private assets of Russian oligarchs including personal sanctions .
seized Russian banks assets in total over $600 billion.
_______________
in a country known as world gas station:
domestic auto making industry is frozen due the foreign components.
growing prizes on goods, food, clothing.
Russian GDP fall down estimated at 20%
thousands of foreign companies left Russia.like MacDonald, Parada, Apple, Microsoft,
automakers like Volkswagen, Mercedes, Peugeot,
Russians had blocked Facebook, Twitter,/
media such as voice of America, radio Svoboda, Deutsche Welle, BBC, Bloomberg, and so on.

theft in Russia:
auto parts are not available so Russians are stealing
used  cars from other Russians then they chop them into parts and sell for 3-4 times
of the cost of new one.


Official Ruble exchange is 78 per dollar but you cannot buy 1 dollar for less than 300- 900 rubles.
The Kremlin can still avoid default if it pays back bondholders by May 4 in dollars.
Russia's foreign public debt as of February 1 was $59.5 billion, according to the Russian Ministry of finance.

Today .
-losses of Russia in war against Ukraine:
  according to Ukrainian government.

21,800 Russian fighters killed,
873 tanks  have been destroyed, along with
2238 armored vehicles,
179 planes,
154 helicopters and
408 artillery systems.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/scale-putins-losses-laid-bare-26787116 (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/scale-putins-losses-laid-bare-26787116)


Today .
-chances and goals of  Russia in war against Ukraine:
Russia is failing to achieve nearly all of its war objectives in Ukraine,
U.S. and its allies have raced to supply Ukraine with heavy weaponry and modern military supplies.
russia-ukraine-latest- (https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-news-2022-04-23/card/russia-has-already-lost-many-of-its-war-goals-in-ukraine-u-s-official-says-IF11gz7llj3Vh9bgWAj8)
Wesley
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: onepower on April 25, 2022, 02:08:03 AM
One new aspect of the war in Russia I saw coming many years ago was the rise of smart weapons.

Now were seeing one person on the ground wipe out multiple tanks, personnel carriers or aircraft. One person with a mobile weapon can discharge the weapon at $70,000 a pop doing millions of dollars of damage. The Russian ground forces are literally sitting ducks and they have no protection.

Were also seeing the rise of the drones able to pin point all enemy locations and movements with cheap drones. Locating then obliterating ground forces and heavy equipment with relatively cheap mobile weapons. So while this dark ages mentality of heavy equipment and greater numbers may have worked 50 years ago today it is outdated and a liability.

In the near future no people will even be involved. Fleets of hunt and kill fully autonomous weaponized drones will be sent out from a distant location and destroy all the soldiers and equipment with ease. They will never know what hit them and there's literally nothing they can do about it.

So these fleets of archaic weapons such as tanks, artillery, personnel carriers and silly little soldiers running around with guns are soon to be a thing of the past. It's almost absurd when considering the technology we already have. It's simply a matter of applying the technology and if other countries want to start doing stupid stuff like were seeing someone will apply the technology.

I give it ten years and all the weaponry we see Russia using today will be pointless. This is not a good thing but very bad because corporations will probably own and operate most of these new weapons. This in itself should be reason for concern...

Regards
AC





Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Johnsmith on April 25, 2022, 03:43:37 AM
One new aspect of the war in Russia I saw coming many years ago was the rise of smart weapons.

Now were seeing one person on the ground wipe out multiple tanks, personnel carriers or aircraft. One person with a mobile weapon can discharge the weapon at $70,000 a pop doing millions of dollars of damage. The Russian ground forces are literally sitting ducks and they have no protection.

Were also seeing the rise of the drones able to pin point all enemy locations and movements with cheap drones. Locating then obliterating ground forces and heavy equipment with relatively cheap mobile weapons. So while this dark ages mentality of heavy equipment and greater numbers may have worked 50 years ago today it is outdated and a liability.

In the near future no people will even be involved. Fleets of hunt and kill fully autonomous weaponized drones will be sent out from a distant location and destroy all the soldiers and equipment with ease. They will never know what hit them and there's literally nothing they can do about it.

So these fleets of archaic weapons such as tanks, artillery, personnel carriers and silly little soldiers running around with guns are soon to be a thing of the past. It's almost absurd when considering the technology we already have. It's simply a matter of applying the technology and if other countries want to start doing stupid stuff like were seeing someone will apply the technology.

I give it ten years and all the weaponry we see Russia using today will be pointless. This is not a good thing but very bad because corporations will probably own and operate most of these new weapons. This in itself should be reason for concern...

Regards
AC


  The drones aren't cheap. When Russia occupied Crimea, college students created a group to go after Russia using drones.
When the convoy on its way to Kyiv stalled, that was their work. They do more than fly drones, they also write computer
programs. The Ukrainian defense ministry made them a part of the military when the military saw what they did.
 It does take an investment and as defensive weapons go, they might help other countries to understand how to avoid
aggression from a superior power. This could prevent superior countries from deciding to take matters into their own hands.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Paul-R on April 26, 2022, 12:42:02 AM

The drones aren't cheap...
Compared to Javelins or NLAWs, they are cheap. Some high end consumer products should be able to carry half a pound of shaped charge which, steered into a driven wheel/axle of a tank, should render it incapable of manoeuvring. A bit like the Bismarck. Dealing with the s/w is most important. As supplied, there is often a "return to base" facility which needs disabling and the frequencies chosen need dealing with.

But if there is a good supply, why aren't they being used to deal with the field guns?
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Johnsmith on April 26, 2022, 02:57:15 AM
Compared to Javelins or NLAWs, they are cheap. Some high end consumer products should be able to carry half a pound of shaped charge which, steered into a driven wheel/axle of a tank, should render it incapable of manoeuvring. A bit like the Bismarck. Dealing with the s/w is most important. As supplied, there is often a "return to base" facility which needs disabling and the frequencies chosen need dealing with.

But if there is a good supply, why aren't they being used to deal with the field guns?


  I think for the most part it is a group of about 30 people. When the group started, they paid for everything out of pocket. What people might wonder is if they are able to train more people.
It is like when they stalled the 40 mile long caravan going to Kiev, they road quads at night while wearing night vision goggles. Then they were close enough to launch their drone attack.
 It won't be surprising if such tactics become more common but then patrols might be sent out to look for drone operators. Then it becomes a game of cat and mouse.
https://www.businessinsider.com/inside-the-elite-ukrainian-drone-unit-volunteer-it-experts-2022-4
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Paul-R on April 26, 2022, 04:12:41 PM
Aerorozvidka seem to be very imaginative and creative people. There are two very senior US people in Kyiv now, Secs Blinken and Austin. They should be made aware of this group's success and they will fund them fully. This is very good value for money for the US taxpayer.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Johnsmith on April 27, 2022, 12:04:17 AM
Aerorozvidka seem to be very imaginative and creative people. There are two very senior US people in Kyiv now, Secs Blinken and Austin. They should be made aware of this group's success and they will fund them fully. This is very good value for money for the US taxpayer.


  They are showing what it means to fight for one's country. I do wonder if a part of their success is because they are educated. They can understand what
risks they are taking. It's not often that educated people teach the military how to defend one's own country. Considering their education and how they're
putting it to use, that shows patriotism.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Paul-R on April 27, 2022, 01:05:58 AM
But, judging from current news reports, it would seem that they do not have enough product to deal with the continuing Russian attacks.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Johnsmith on April 27, 2022, 02:29:59 AM
But, judging from current news reports, it would seem that they do not have enough product to deal with the continuing Russian attacks.


  Most likely no one thought they could take on an army. There is a difference between defending or stopping an enemy and trying to
win a defended position. This is a totally new warfare not previously observed.
 With Russia, I posted about the Vikings and how that applies to current history. That aspect of history will never change. It is how
government and commerce supports people that matters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMS_n1l3Wxc
 
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: stivep on April 27, 2022, 03:43:42 AM
But, judging from current news reports, it would seem that they do not have enough product to deal with the continuing Russian attacks.
Vladimir Putin- the product of feudal system, the king, the Czar/Tzar
the Emperor, the tyrant, the ultimate power.
The wealthiest person in the world, 
– the Godfather and inventor of the first organized crime structure of modern times
known as the Russian Federation the true talented Mafia boss.

- endured rejection, ignorance, lack of respect of the world if as he was just a small time bandit,
but he wasn't one in his own mind.
The language of the strongest, and most powerful was his tool of communication with the world.:
the Nagorno-Karabakh
the two Georgian wars, and chopping Osetia
the Moldovian Pridniestrovietwo
the Chechen wars
the annexation of Crimea in 2014 the conflict in Donetsk and Lugansk
military support to tyrants in Belarus and Kazakhstan.
And now- there war in Ukraine.

______________________________________________

After winning so many times, he simply forgot that he may become a loser.
so he is one now.

His armor is ending, over 60% losses.
his troops don't want to fight
the morale is bad
the rockets are used 80% and not much left .
e.g : his tanks were using French optics.
sanctions unseen for the past 80 years.
the biggest gas station of the world has no manufacturing
corrupted full of old Russian war junk.


At the U.S. Army base in Ramstein, Germany, 40 NATO defense ministers and invited nations were discussing ways to help Ukraine in its war with Russia.
On the eve of today Berlin changed its position on the issue of heavy weapons for Ukraine and is now ready to supply Kiev with the ZSU \"Cheetah\"
Germany was pushed to give in next 7 to 12 days it's German Cheetah
https://youtu.be/mFTS2Zyoxe0?t=55 (https://youtu.be/mFTS2Zyoxe0?t=55)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2O_7Bn_OZ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2O_7Bn_OZ8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf7zHLVacGQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf7zHLVacGQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtmpGA137hc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtmpGA137hc)

Wesley
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Johnsmith on April 27, 2022, 05:05:17 AM
Vladimir Putin- the product of feudal system, the king, the Czar/Tzar
the Emperor, the tyrant, the ultimate power.
The wealthiest person in the world, 
– the Godfather and inventor of the first organized crime structure of modern times
known as the Russian Federation the true talented Mafia boss.

- endured rejection, ignorance, lack of respect of the world if as he was just a small time bandit,
but he wasn't one in his own mind.
The language of the strongest, and most powerful was his tool of communication with the world.:
the Nagorno-Karabakh
the two Georgian wars, and chopping Osetia
the Moldovian Pridniestrovietwo
the Chechen wars
the annexation of Crimea in 2014 the conflict in Donetsk and Lugansk
military support to tyrants in Belarus and Kazakhstan.
And now- there war in Ukraine.

______________________________________________

After winning so many times, he simply forgot that he may become a loser.
so he is one now.

His armor is ending, over 60% losses.
his troops don't want to fight
the morale is bad
the rockets are used 80% and not much left .
e.g : his tanks were using French optics.
sanctions unseen for the past 80 years.
the biggest gas station of the world has no manufacturing
corrupted full of old Russian war junk.


At the U.S. Army base in Ramstein, Germany, 40 NATO defense ministers and invited nations were discussing ways to help Ukraine in its war with Russia.
On the eve of today Berlin changed its position on the issue of heavy weapons for Ukraine and is now ready to supply Kiev with the ZSU \"Cheetah\"
Germany was pushed to give in next 7 to 12 days it's German Cheetah
https://youtu.be/mFTS2Zyoxe0?t=55 (https://youtu.be/mFTS2Zyoxe0?t=55)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2O_7Bn_OZ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2O_7Bn_OZ8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf7zHLVacGQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf7zHLVacGQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtmpGA137hc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtmpGA137hc)

Wesley


  With Putin,
  He's not losing. If 10,000 teenagers die, Putin hasn't. He's over 70. Dead teenagers don't make it to 20.
That is what this war is about. It is Logan's Run. 30 is just a fictional number created by the American government.

 Logan's Run is a fictional movie. You have to die before you are 30.  With the Russian invasion of Ukraine, could
you live in a Russian society that adapts itself to cooler weather?
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Paul-R on April 27, 2022, 11:38:25 AM
The language of the strongest, and most powerful was his tool of communication with the world.:
the Nagorno-Karabakh
the two Georgian wars, and chopping Osetia
the Moldovian Pridniestrovietwo
the Chechen wars
the annexation of Crimea in 2014 the conflict in Donetsk and Lugansk
military support to tyrants in Belarus and Kazakhstan.
And now- there war in Ukraine.

And, of course, Syria, along with Afghanistan, from which Putin has learned nothing.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: stivep on April 27, 2022, 01:18:42 PM
With Putin,
  He's not losing. If 10,000 teenagers die, Putin hasn't. He's over 70. Dead teenagers don't make it to 20.
That is what this war is about. It is Logan's Run. 30 is just a fictional number created by the American government.
Logan's Run is a fictional movie. You have to die before you are 30. 

I picture you as a dreamer with great potential, so let it be.

Futuristic sci-fi, set in a 23rd century post-apocalyptic society, where overpopulation
has been controlled is not yet here, and not yet a problem.
22,400 young Russians died in two months of Russian war against Ukraine.
The  younger version of the Hitler is making the same mistakes.
but Hitler made Germany, strong, powerful, technologically advanced,
wealthy, educated, growing in GDP..
Before he lost it all,

And you can look at them today... The beauty and strength of Germany now.
_______________________________
1917 horde of uneducated partially illiterate, crowd members, killed the Czar king of Russia
his wife, his children, his servants, the families and children of servants, the families of related
to servants families and their pets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_of_the_Romanov_family (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_of_the_Romanov_family)

In 1933 Stalin prolonged killing of educated, middle-class, scientists, and whoever else he could.
Estimated up to ~40 millions till after end of world war two.
one small example: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/02/exposing-stalin-famine-in-ukraine-muggeridge-1933 (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/02/exposing-stalin-famine-in-ukraine-muggeridge-1933)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge)
Typical to Russians all that time was that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre)

In 1990 the Soviet Union collapsed and country spread into several freed and now Western world oriented countries.
Those countries became more than wealthy and advanced they gained freedom from Russians.
Example:
Poland the sweet candy a beauty.
 

Vladimir Putin, changed Russia from poverty and isolation to to its modern form of more poverty,corruption, dictatorship, and isolation assisted by terror.
The official value of one dollar's about 78 rubles, but you lucky if you buy dollar on black market anywhere between 300 to 900 rubles per one.
Average lower-class Russian pension is about 14,000 rubles= $28 per month
it is if we take average : that 500 rubles equals now ~around one dollar


 
With the Russian invasion of Ukraine, could
you live in a Russian society that adapts itself to cooler weather?
survival skills are barely used and American Eskimos still prefer Alaska instead of Florida.
It is lack of education causing lack of opportunities, and centuries of some kind of comfort, in harsh conditions.
Wesley
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Paul-R on April 27, 2022, 04:25:20 PM

A staggering list. Is there a realistic way to work out the cost?
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: stivep on April 27, 2022, 05:41:23 PM
A staggering list. Is there a realistic way to work out the cost?
https://marketrealist.com/p/how-much-money-is-russia-losing-daily/
20 billion dollars daily but of course it varies.
https://www.yenisafak.com/en/world/daily-cost-of-ukraine-war-likely-to-exceed-20b-for-russia-study-3590755
Wesley
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Paul-R on April 27, 2022, 05:55:21 PM
https://marketrealist.com/p/how-much-money-is-russia-losing-daily/ (https://marketrealist.com/p/how-much-money-is-russia-losing-daily/)
20 billion dollars daily but of course it varies.
https://www.yenisafak.com/en/world/daily-cost-of-ukraine-war-likely-to-exceed-20b-for-russia-study-3590755 (https://www.yenisafak.com/en/world/daily-cost-of-ukraine-war-likely-to-exceed-20b-for-russia-study-3590755)
Wesley
$138 per person per day.

Now we need a radio station that can't be jammed to let their peoiple know.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: kolbacict on April 27, 2022, 07:28:12 PM
Average lower-class Russian pension is about 14,000 rubles= $28 per month
It's about me... :) :)
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Johnsmith on April 27, 2022, 09:18:03 PM
https://marketrealist.com/p/how-much-money-is-russia-losing-daily/
20 billion dollars daily but of course it varies.
https://www.yenisafak.com/en/world/daily-cost-of-ukraine-war-likely-to-exceed-20b-for-russia-study-3590755
Wesley


  That money would've been better spent improving the lives of Russians. I'm sure a lot of Russians would probably like to
be able to export Russian made goods, develop better geothermal heating systems, etc. Make life better for Russians and
probably create more manufacturing jobs.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: onepower on April 27, 2022, 10:45:13 PM
stivep
Quote
Vladimir Putin, changed Russia from poverty and isolation to to its modern form of more poverty,corruption, dictatorship, and isolation assisted by terror.
The official value of one dollar's about 78 rubles, but you lucky if you buy dollar on black market anywhere between 300 to 900 rubles per one.
Average lower-class Russian pension is about 14,000 rubles= $28 per month
it is if we take average : that 500 rubles equals now ~around one dollar

Thanks for posting on this issue.

It's just incredible what's going on over in Russia, how a ruthless dictator like Putin can literally bring his entire country to it's knees. Sure we have some problems in the U.S. and Canada but there minor in comparison.

We should be clear what's happening in Russia and China is slavery. They have enslaved there whole population for profit so they remain powerless. These stupid SOB's really get me worked up.

Regards
AC
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Paul-R on April 28, 2022, 12:51:06 AM

It's just incredible what's going on over in Russia, how a ruthless dictator like Putin can literally bring his entire country to it's knees.
The worry is what a man as damaged and desperate as Putin is might do when backed into a corner.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Johnsmith on April 28, 2022, 01:38:12 AM
stivep
Thanks for posting on this issue.

It's just incredible what's going on over in Russia, how a ruthless dictator like Putin can literally bring his entire country to it's knees. Sure we have some problems in the U.S. and Canada but there minor in comparison.

We should be clear what's happening in Russia and China is slavery. They have enslaved there whole population for profit so they remain powerless. These stupid SOB's really get me worked up.

Regards
AC


  If it wasn't for stiff Ukrainian resistance, the West probably would've let Putin take Ukraine. Ukrainian resistance is something that
no one counted on.
A part of the problem is the desire for cheap energy. Why Russia was allowed to build a bridge to Crimea and the EU worked with
Russia on the Nordstream 2 pipeline. That would've cut out Ukraine.
 As for Putin, Western leaders would've known https://www.businessinsider.com/how-the-1999-russian-apartment-bombings-led-to-putins-rise-to-power-2018-3
and yet it was Ukraine who was being told to do nothing. Even during the massive military build up Western leaders weren't too concerned.
And yet in 2019 Putin was in South America (G-20 summit) and talked to then President Trump. Putin told Trump that the Sea of Azov is Russian national security.
 And obviously with Crimea under Russian control, how to link it with Russia by land as well? And this is something that is going to hurt both Ukraine and Russia
for decades to come. Possibly the only thing that could've prevented this war would've been a naval blockade of Crimea in 2014. Then Western leaders could've
said that Ukraine will be neutral like Sweden, Finland and Switzerland. Then Putin would've known that Western leaders supported Ukraine territorial rights.
 Kind of where sanctions profited countries at Ukraine's expense.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: kolbacict on April 28, 2022, 07:49:21 AM
Quote
Average lower-class Russian pension is about 14,000 rubles= $28 per month
I'll even say more. I haven't  a cent of income for almost a month now.
but everything is fine, I'm not complaining. Because my main income is from repairing TVs.
And TV is what made Russians the way they are now.
So I feel partly responsible for this. :)

p.s. And the perpetual motion machine is still not working for me ... :(
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: onepower on April 28, 2022, 08:11:09 AM
PaulR
Quote
The worry is what a man as damaged and desperate as Putin is might do when backed into a corner.

The real problem would seem to be a complete lack of standards...

Psychotic people like trump and putin would never pass a credible psychiatric examination and should have been weeded out as unfit for office. In short they have mental problems and are unstable. Biden is also losing mental capacity and his health by the day and should have been disqualified from running.

As many people here have said, how is this bs even happening in this day and age?.

I mean, walmart probably has more rigorous hiring standards than most countries have for there leaders. One would think we would want the best and brightest leading our country but apparently the opposite is true for reasons I cannot understand.

Regards
AC




Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: stivep on April 28, 2022, 02:10:08 PM
Today it is announced that Poland and Bulgaria are to lose their Russian gas connection. The matter will become urgent in the the Autumn when the weather turns.

What can be done?

Thank you very much for your input.
Poland and Bulgaria had announced sometime before - their willingness to depart from Russian gas delivery.
so Vladimir Putin wanted it to look like it was Russia that made
the decision of cutting out the gas and not Poland Bulgaria.


Vladimir Putin doing that wanted to push EU to accept his demand to pay for Russian gas with Russian rubles.


It's easy to understand:
if Russians make a value of one American dollar equal 78 rubles. Or even one Russian ruble.
-That doesn't change the fact that you cannot buy this American dollar for less than 300 rubles on black market.
Western world needs still to buy the rubles from Russian government in order to pay for the gas.
Russian government has no rights to demand that  as all existing agreements were signed in dollars.

So why Vladimir Putin  is doing that:
Russian stock market is dead now. Russian ruble has no set and recognized value outside of Russia.
Russia is cutout from Western goods.
Friendly to Russian Federation China, doesn't have a recognized way to value Russian ruble in their own exchange.
Russia is only the gas station of the word and doesn't have any manufacturing.
So anything China sales to Russia must be done in established American dollar to ruble or European euro to ruble exchange value.


Poland is finishing pipeline with Norwegians, it has cryogenic gas from its own hub,
and from Latvian hub.
norway-poland-gas-link-construction- (https://www.theepochtimes.com/norway-poland-gas-link-construction-resumes-as-ukraine-war-sparks-energy-security-push_4308827.html#:~:text=Energinet%E2%80%99s%20Polish%20partner%20Gaz-System%20said%20it%E2%80%99s%20on%20track,to%20become%20less%20dependent%20on%20Russian%20energy%20supplies.)

Bulgaria is dealing with Azerbaijan and Greece to solve the matter.
Bulgaria (https://apnews.com/article/business-europe-greece-bulgaria-azerbaijan-853d27e42a8d0137c9a4e4f46989e3c4#:~:text=Bulgaria%20already%20has%20a%20deal%20with%20Azerbaijan%20to,of%20gas%2C%20or%20nearly%20one-third%20of%20its%20consumption.)
_______________________
Every garden could have a Savonius type wind turbine connected to a simple generator.
A wheel hub motor from an e-scooter would be a start, connected to a resistive load.
What other suggestions are there?
nobody wants to spend money, good ideas are always helpful.However not everybody is mechanically or electronically advised or advanced.
thank you very much for good topics to discuss here,
Wesley
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Johnsmith on April 28, 2022, 03:19:00 PM
PaulR
The real problem would seem to be a complete lack of standards...

Psychotic people like trump and putin would never pass a credible psychiatric examination and should have been weeded out as unfit for office. In short they have mental problems and are unstable. Biden is also losing mental capacity and his health by the day and should have been disqualified from running.

As many people here have said, how is this bs even happening in this day and age?.

I mean, walmart probably has more rigorous hiring standards than most countries have for there leaders. One would think we would want the best and brightest leading our country but apparently the opposite is true for reasons I cannot understand.

Regards
AC


  Where I live in the U.S., I used to watch broadcast Sunday church services. And then I became aware of why so many Christians have caused me problems. They
were telling people what they wanted to hear and a lot of politicians are the same way. An example I'll use is from America's largest personal injury lawyers. Did you
have a slip and fall accident?  Some stores are careless and some more than others. You probably know which store I'm talking about. We have to hold them responsible.
 Make it sound like you're talking to them and they'll support you. With the invasion of Ukraine, I wonder what will happen on May 9th and after. Even with Russia having
Mariupol that would give Ukraine a battle line. And then as some have considered, Putin might wait a few years and then start another war until he has Ukraine like he
wants.

 If this is true, it's disturbing.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-stooges-may-nuke-us-183813392.html
 
 
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Paul-R on April 28, 2022, 11:55:40 PM

 And then as some have considered, Putin might wait a few years and then start another war until he has Ukraine like he
wants.

 If this is true, it's disturbing.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-stooges-may-nuke-us-183813392.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-stooges-may-nuke-us-183813392.html)
"Russia will respond with “instruments… nobody else can boast of, and we will use them if we have to.”
What Comrade Vlad seems to have forgotten is that his beloved Soviet Union did a lot of espionage in the 1980s. Reagan was asked if these agents should be rounded up. He said "No". Let them trip over a large number of chips and misc s/w which were seeded with trojans. They will now be all over the place. Putin's tech may not be as predsictable as he thinks it is.

Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: stivep on April 29, 2022, 01:29:42 AM

 If this is true, it's disturbing.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-stooges-may-nuke-us-183813392.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-stooges-may-nuke-us-183813392.html)

what is tactical nuclear weapon?:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_nuclear_weapon.
 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_nuclear_weapon.Russian)Russian Federation ~1150 ? tactical nuclear weapons

The United States retains a small inventory of perhaps 500 active tactical nuclear weapons. This includes an estimated 400 bombs
(including 200 in Europe (https://fas.org/blog/ssp/2008/06/us-nuclear-weapons-withdrawn-from-the-united-kingdom.php)) and 100 Tomahawk cruise missiles (all on land). Others, perhaps 700, are in inactive storage.

France (http://thebulletin.metapress.com/content/k01h5q0wg50353k5/fulltext.pdf) also has 60 tactical-range cruise missiles, including some on its aircraft carrier, although it calls them strategic weapons.
The United Kingdom (http://thebulletin.metapress.com/content/k52425n3320m8644/fulltext.pdf) has completely eliminated its tactical nuclear weapons, although it said until a couple of years ago that some of its strategic Trident missiles had a “sub-strategic” mission.

Information about possible Chinese (http://thebulletin.metapress.com/content/25094v7235832574/fulltext.pdf) tactical nuclear weapons is vague and contradictory, but might include some gravity bombs.

India (http://thebulletin.metapress.com/content/t884046w31156318/fulltext.pdf), Pakistan (https://fas.org/blog/ssp/2007/05/article_pakistani_nuclear_forc.php), and Israel (http://thebulletin.metapress.com/content/a38g5111525882t4/fulltext.pdf) have some nuclear weapons that could be considered tactical
(gravity bombs for fighter-bombers and, in the case of India and Pakistan, short-range ballistic missiles), but all are normally considered strategic

https://fas.org/blogs/security/2009/03/russia-2/ (https://fas.org/blogs/security/2009/03/russia-2/)

_____________________________________________

I was trying to find a source of information standing about recent communication between American military command and Russian forces.
Everything has changed about two weeks ago.

United States that was in fear to provoke Russians had made and delivered clear statement to Russians.
–if Russia uses tactical nuclear warheads America will do to.
Starting from that time, USA response into Russian demands is only making Western world delivery of more heavy weapons much faster.
https://news.stanford.edu/2022/04/20/u-s-must-can-prevent-russian-military-crossing-nuclear-threshold/ (https://news.stanford.edu/2022/04/20/u-s-must-can-prevent-russian-military-crossing-nuclear-threshold/)

M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System is in Ukraine fighting now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M270_Multiple_Launch_Rocket_System
 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M270_Multiple_Launch_Rocket_System)
Ukraine attacking Russia using Multiple Launch Rocket System (M270) | Lockheed Martin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeNvZiUFBiQ)

Wesley
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Johnsmith on April 29, 2022, 02:09:53 AM

what is tactical nuclear weapon?:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_nuclear_weapon.
 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_nuclear_weapon.Russian)Russian Federation ~1150 ? tactical nuclear weapons

The United States retains a small inventory of perhaps 500 active tactical nuclear weapons. This includes an estimated 400 bombs
(including 200 in Europe (https://fas.org/blog/ssp/2008/06/us-nuclear-weapons-withdrawn-from-the-united-kingdom.php)) and 100 Tomahawk cruise missiles (all on land). Others, perhaps 700, are in inactive storage.

France (http://thebulletin.metapress.com/content/k01h5q0wg50353k5/fulltext.pdf) also has 60 tactical-range cruise missiles, including some on its aircraft carrier, although it calls them strategic weapons.
The United Kingdom (http://thebulletin.metapress.com/content/k52425n3320m8644/fulltext.pdf) has completely eliminated its tactical nuclear weapons, although it said until a couple of years ago that some of its strategic Trident missiles had a “sub-strategic” mission.

Information about possible Chinese (http://thebulletin.metapress.com/content/25094v7235832574/fulltext.pdf) tactical nuclear weapons is vague and contradictory, but might include some gravity bombs.

India (http://thebulletin.metapress.com/content/t884046w31156318/fulltext.pdf), Pakistan (https://fas.org/blog/ssp/2007/05/article_pakistani_nuclear_forc.php), and Israel (http://thebulletin.metapress.com/content/a38g5111525882t4/fulltext.pdf) have some nuclear weapons that could be considered tactical
(gravity bombs for fighter-bombers and, in the case of India and Pakistan, short-range ballistic missiles), but all are normally considered strategic

https://fas.org/blogs/security/2009/03/russia-2/ (https://fas.org/blogs/security/2009/03/russia-2/)

_____________________________________________

I was trying to find a source of information standing about recent communication between American military command and Russian forces.
Everything has changed about two weeks ago.

United States that was in fear to provoke Russians had made and delivered clear statement to Russians.
–if Russia uses tactical nuclear warheads America will do to.
Starting from that time, USA response into Russian demands is only making Western world delivery of more heavy weapons much faster.
https://news.stanford.edu/2022/04/20/u-s-must-can-prevent-russian-military-crossing-nuclear-threshold/ (https://news.stanford.edu/2022/04/20/u-s-must-can-prevent-russian-military-crossing-nuclear-threshold/)

M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System is in Ukraine fighting now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M270_Multiple_Launch_Rocket_System
 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M270_Multiple_Launch_Rocket_System)
Ukraine attacking Russia using Multiple Launch Rocket System (M270) | Lockheed Martin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeNvZiUFBiQ)

Wesley


  Putin knows NATO can shoot down his nuclear weapons in Russia. Why he is unhappy with such weapons pointed at Russia.
This conventional war is what he can do. After that, were you hurt in a slip and fall accident in that store that we talked about?
I can help you.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Johnsmith on April 29, 2022, 07:22:09 AM
 And in other news, only the European Union and the U.S. can win this war. Both Ukraine and Russia have already lost it.
 
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. As I mentioned earlier, neither Russia nor the West thought Ukraine would defend itself.
Ukrainians are the cannon fodder and the losers in a proxy war between Russia and the West. Ever watch Star Trek? The
Chinese are the Ferengi.
 Still, everyone should know that Ukraine was screwed by competing socioeconomic forms of government. This has also
been mentioned in the media. Russia is not at war with Ukraine but the U.S. and Russia cannot fight each other because
of being nuclear countries. As a result, another country will suffer such as Ukraine is suffering. Why the West did not want it
to be a nuclear country. That reasoning allowed for this proxy war.
 Simply put, the U.S. and Russia have to be the Big Dogs. It might take direct confrontation which would leave China as the
lone survivor. And China is quiet. And they're winning.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: onepower on April 29, 2022, 06:07:33 PM
I thought this may be of interest to the FE community and relates to Fascism and Russia.

We see many promoting the notion that free energy is a scam under the guise that it's not real science, there is no proof and they know better. In fact what many call "fake news" has been attacking almost every aspect of democracy, science and technology. Here is a little insight into what's going on...

In psychology this would probably be called an appeal to authority, as a supposed authority, or authoritarianism. It's often promoted under the guise of an appeal to purity, ie. your science isn't real science only mine can be. It's often used as a tool to force conformity or yielding to a supposed authority.

Do these attributes sound familiar?...
    Conventionalism: conformity to the traditional societal norms and values of the middle class;
    Authoritarian submission: a passive notion towards adhering to conventional norms and values;
    Authoritarian aggression: punishing and condemning individuals who don’t adhere to conventional values;
    Religion and Ethics;
    Superstition
    Power and "toughness";
    Anti-intraception, i.e. "rejection of all inwardness, of the subjective, the imaginative, the tender-minded, and of self-criticism";
    Destructiveness and Cynicism: Generalized hostility, vilification of the human;
    Projectivity: The disposition to believe that wild and dangerous things go on in the world; the projection outwards of unconscious    emotional impulses; and
    : Exaggerated concern with sexual "goings-on."

These attributes are taken from here, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-scale_(personality_test)
The F-scale relates to a persons beliefs towards Fascism.

In fact a recent study concluded almost every forum or social media space has been influenced by person(s) promoting Fascism through an often subtle appeal to conformity and authority.

Here is an interesting article...https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/who-s-drawn-to-fascism-postwar-study-of-authoritarianism-makes-a-comeback-1.6403074

Quote
"I watched Trump come down and then I listened to the speech and I said: that was an authoritarian speech," he said. "I've never heard anything like that in America."
MacWilliams wondered if Trump were "activating" authoritarians in his party. To find out, he conducted a poll of Republican primary voters and found that those with authoritarian leanings were much more likely to prefer Trump. 
"Even when you put in education and other big, big variables that should soak up all of the predictability of the variable," said MacWilliams, "and it didn't for any other candidate. Ted Cruz, nope. Marco Rubio, nope. It was Donald Trump."

In essence, the goal of Fascism on social media is to brain wash large groups of people into believing everyone they disagree with has been brain washed and the enemy. Not a simple disagreement on some subject but an enemy who should not be tolerated. It's a clever form of reverse psychology with the goal of dividing society and producing chaos. It never ends well...

Regards
AC

Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: onepower on April 30, 2022, 12:02:58 AM
Another good read...
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/why-is-so-little-known-about-the-1930s-coup-attempt-against-fdr
Why Is So Little Known About the 1930s Coup Attempt Against FDR?

Quote
Members included JP Morgan, Jr, Irénée du Pont, Robert Sterling Clark of the Singer sewing machine fortune, and the chief executives of General Motors, Birds Eye and General Foods.

The putsch called for him to lead a massive army of veterans – funded by $30m from Wall Street titans and with weapons supplied by Remington Arms – to march on Washington, oust Roosevelt and the entire line of succession, and establish a fascist dictatorship backed by a private army of 500,000 former soldiers.

Why would the wealthiest people want to overthrow the government and install a ruthless fascist government?.

Quote
FDR thought government in a civilized society had an obligation to abolish poverty, reduce unemployment, and redistribute wealth. Roosevelt’s bold New Deal experiments inflamed the upper class, provoking a backlash from the nation’s most powerful bankers, industrialists and Wall Street brokers, who thought the policy was not only radical but revolutionary. Worried about losing their personal fortunes to runaway government spending, this fertile field of loathing led to the “traitor to his class” epithet for FDR.

Abolish poverty, reduce unemployment, and redistribute wealth?, Oh the humanity, there's little profit in that...

Regards
AC
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Johnsmith on April 30, 2022, 03:10:06 PM
  The way they include anti-Semites in everything can be troubling as well. Over 13 million non-Jews died
during World War II and they are ignored. And considering over 5 million Palestinians are in concentration camps,
is it okay to be anti-Palestinian?
 And that is something that might have encouraged Putin. Ukraine is his Palestine. And the U.S. government
does not support a 2 state solution. The Bill of Rights while being for American citizens states that the
government can not enforce laws that oppress people. The 1964 Civil Rights Acts does not allow for Americans
to engage in discriminatory practices.
 If the U.S. is a world leader as it claims, a 2 State Solution would be pursued. With what onepower showed,
the U.S. has its own problems. And the image of the land division between Israel and Palestine in 1948 shows
the intentions of the United Nations. Divide and conquer is a well known military strategy. Political leaders need
to resolve issues and not create more yet WW II was the result of issues that WW I did not resolve.
 And WW II did not resolve a 2 State solution. This is where when the U.S. was in Afghanistan for over 20 years,
how could Afghans trust the U.S.? What if Afghans felt like Palestinians?
 And this is what Putin plans for Ukraine. Why Putin wants to occupy all of the Ukrainian coast and have the
Donbas region. The Donbas is rich in minerals and manufacturing and would hurt Ukraine economically.
 With Israel, it started with U.N. Resolution 181 and identified Palestinians as the "Palestinian Problem". I think
the 3rd Reich used the same language to describe Jews. I have read U.N. Resolutions concerning Resolution 181.

 This link shows what in 1947 led to Resolution 181. This is a Jewish website and talks about replacing hate with good.
Nothing about what was promoted as a 2 State Solution has been pursued. Even today Jerusalem is not an international
city because it is the birthplace of major religions.
https://www.adl.org/resources/action-guides/united-nations-partition-plan-1947-un-resolution-181
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Johnsmith on May 02, 2022, 03:18:24 PM
  With this from Russia https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-lashes-russia-over-lavrovs-082530896.html
This is where Russia would need to do what many politicians have said and say that their comments were taken
out of context because of what my previous post said.
 Israel states that a 2 state solution and Jerusalem becoming an international city would replace hate with good.
Is Israel willing to support what they promoted in 1947?

 And this is where if my work on Bessler's Wheel is successful then Putin might become aware of this thread.
My father lived in Nazi occupied Norway and as a disabled Veteran I am hoping to move to Spain to have
necessary surgery. Also I had a Jewish neighbor pull a Krystallnacht on me. https://www.ushmm.org/collections/bibliography/kristallnacht
 I was reading this book which inspired her. https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/13167774-a-city-of-broken-glass
Putin could make the lack of a 2 state solution and Jerusalem not having been made an international city which is what
was promoted at one time an issue as he has said previously that he supports a 2 state solution.
 Then as Israel says on its website, hate can be replaced by good.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: onepower on May 05, 2022, 04:49:03 PM
One has to wonder if many on the the far right are liars?.

In the news, the new republican Supreme Court judges decided to vote on overturning Roe vs Wade. After they swore under oath they would not overturn any long standing precidents. It's not the laws that bug me it's the continuous lying. They swore they wouldn't do something to get there job then given the chance it's the first thing they did...there liars and have zero credibility in my opinion.

Russia and Putin seem no different and basically anything they say is a lie. They say they will do X then do Y.  They say they didn't kill all those women and children when video and witnesses prove they did. One has to wonder if there so far gone they don't even realize how stupid they look in the eyes of the world.

When bold faced lying becomes normal were all in trouble...

Regards
AC



Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: rakarskiy on May 05, 2022, 06:18:08 PM
Count A. Tolstoy said: “There are two Russias. The first (Kyiv Rus) has its roots in the world, and at least in European culture. The ideas of goodness, honor, freedom, justice were understood by this Rus in the same way as the whole Western world understood it.
And there is also a second Rus - Moscow (Russias). This is Rus Taigi, Mongolian, wild, bestial. This Rus has made bloody despotism and wild bitterness its national ideal. This Moscow Rus, from ancient times, was, is, and will be a complete denial of everything European and a fierce enemy of Europe.”

When translated into English, Russia (Россия) and Rus (Русь) have completely different meanings. Russia is a fictional state created by the liar Peter the Great. What is the difference between Ukraine and Russia in the video tells the seer. who claims to communicate with higher powers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SomYwfJHPU&t=819s

*****
https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/02/the-war-in-ukraine-glory-to-ukraine.html
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: NickZ on May 06, 2022, 01:57:23 AM
   Rakarskie:   Thank you for the explanation. I try to understand what is going on with Putin's Russia.
My father was from the old Yugoslavia. There they also had this same madness, more than one time. It seams to me that it is not the fault of the people there, or in Russia, but what is oppressing them, from higher dimensions.
 
   NickZ
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: onepower on May 06, 2022, 09:15:43 AM
rakarskiy
Quote
Count A. Tolstoy said: “There are two Russias. The first (Kyiv Rus) has its roots in the world, and at least in European culture. The ideas of goodness, honor, freedom, justice were understood by this Rus in the same way as the whole Western world understood it.
And there is also a second Rus - Moscow (Russias). This is Rus Taigi, Mongolian, wild, bestial. This Rus has made bloody despotism and wild bitterness its national ideal. This Moscow Rus, from ancient times, was, is, and will be a complete denial of everything European and a fierce enemy of Europe.”

It's interesting looking at all the different perspectives. Many of the adults here in Canada spoke of disbelief wondering how this bs is even possible in this day and age. They had the impression the majority could act like responsible adults and we were moving in the right direction. Now there is a great deal of uncertainty and many are wondering where this is headed.

The perspective I found most disturbing is the one nobody is talking about. I had a chance to sit down and have an open and honest conversation with some teenagers. It's strange because many older people like to call them lazy or misguided but that's not what's happening. Like us when we were there age they see exactly what's going on. They see adults acting like god damn children, consumed by greed, destroying the planet and there future. They honestly believe there screwed and there's really no point in planning ahead, why bother?.

Obviously this isn't something any parent wants to hear. Apparently they don't want to talk about this stuff  because they think we will get upset. I mean, how do you say "daddy why are you acting like a retard and destroying my future?". I will tell you what, it was a real eye opener and it definitely changed my perspective. What were doing is complete bs and your children know it... let that sink in.

Regards
AC
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Paul-R on May 06, 2022, 10:56:11 AM
I think the biggest single problem is the lack of reliable information available to Russians. Social media is patchy at best and suppressed at worst. If there were to be a way of creating a radio station which was intelligently run and couldn't be jammed, this might be a breakthrough.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: NickZ on May 06, 2022, 03:33:34 PM
  The Russians are being brainwashed, and so is everyone else. The difference is not everyone believes the hype. I don't, at least.
   The point is to control, total control, and if you oppose what is happening, you get arrested, and in many countries, even worse.   It seams like some one wants us all dead. WHY??? Who?  Doesn't Russia have enough land and resources already? Is the billion dollars a day profit from oil, not enough. Over 20.000 people dead from Russian, alone, and thousands more in Ukraine.
   I think that our teenagers are also being brainwashed, just like the rest of us. They'll grow up to be just like us. Or be jailed or killed off, if the don't conform. Even my own daughters believe what they hear in the news, over what I believe or tell them.Same thing is happening world wide.  But, we were not born that way. WE have been made to be that way, or else... There is no liberty, and there never was.
 Just try to tell your kids that they don't have to go to school and don't have to study, and don't have do any homework, if they don't want to. Sure. Tell them that they don't have to wear a mast, etz...And tell them how new viruses are created to kill us all off. Oh, they already know that. Sweet planet that we live in. No wonder the ETs don't come down to lend us a helping hand. As we'd kill them off, as well, IF we could...and take their technologies, to build bigger bombs with it.
   
   NickZ
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: stivep on May 06, 2022, 07:29:29 PM
Russian losses  since  Feb 24 2022 till today
Wesley
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Johnsmith on May 08, 2022, 11:09:36 PM
Count A. Tolstoy said: “There are two Russias. The first (Kyiv Rus) has its roots in the world, and at least in European culture. The ideas of goodness, honor, freedom, justice were understood by this Rus in the same way as the whole Western world understood it.
And there is also a second Rus - Moscow (Russias). This is Rus Taigi, Mongolian, wild, bestial. This Rus has made bloody despotism and wild bitterness its national ideal. This Moscow Rus, from ancient times, was, is, and will be a complete denial of everything European and a fierce enemy of Europe.”

When translated into English, Russia (Россия) and Rus (Русь) have completely different meanings. Russia is a fictional state created by the liar Peter the Great. What is the difference between Ukraine and Russia in the video tells the seer. who claims to communicate with higher powers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SomYwfJHPU&t=819s

*****
https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/02/the-war-in-ukraine-glory-to-ukraine.html


 In Russian, there is крайний = extreme
Then there is          Украина = Ukraine
                              y = and
so y крайний = and the extreme or its variation is Ukraine.
 Kiev was probably Київ, Рус и Я meaning Kiev, the Viking(s) and I (myself).
Why today there is Москва, Россия. The climate might have played a role in this. An example is that all of the cathedrals
built in Europe were built during the Medieval Warm Period. During both the Dark Ages Cool Period and the Little Ice Age,
the economy of Europe slowed.
 And yet today I think that Russia can adapt to its environment. In a previous post I mentioned in ground parks with geothermal heating.
In places like Yekaterinburg, summer could be enjoyed in the winter. Such innovation could also help to improve Russian manufacturing.
 Со мной, Я хочу быть Американець but I am 1/2 Norwegian even if I am from Ohio, USA and am a disabled Veteran of the US Navy.
 And with Yekaterinburg, Russia, it was founded by a Russian and a Frenchman. It became a metallurgical center because people wanted
away from the Tsar's heavy taxes and Russia did not extend east of the Ural Mountains. I actually read that on a placard when I visited
Yekaterinburg. Kind of why I can think about in ground parks and what innovations might help Russians.
 
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Paul-R on May 09, 2022, 12:25:30 AM
There are some stupid people in Russia. This chap says Russia could destroy NATO in 30 minutes:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10794433/Russia-destroy-NATO-countries-half-hour-claims-close-Putin-crony-charge-rockets.html?fr=operanews
This is true but the phenomenon called M.A.D., which has governed the Cold War for 65 years, means that Russia would be destroyed in around the same amount of time.
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: onepower on May 12, 2022, 03:11:32 AM
PaulR
Quote
There are some stupid people in Russia. This chap says Russia could destroy NATO in 30 minutes:

I think there is much more to it...

Look at the far right movement, all the bs conspiracy theories, the blatant lies, gaslighting and now the stacked U.S. supreme court making themselves look like complete fools. I don't think there stupid, they have been brain washed. Anything goes no matter how batshit crazy to further there beliefs. This is the western worlds equivalent to Jihad.

This is what many don't seem to understand in my opinion. Many think the far right in the U.S., Russia and the Middle East are scared and should show some empathy and common sense but in there mind this is a religious crusade. There lining up in droves to throw themselves under the bus to further there cause and become a martyr to there beliefs.

We cannot reason with someone who has been duped into thinking they have nothing to lose, it doesn't work.

Look at the signs occurring globally...
The proverbial "witch hunt", dark ages laws and regulations, mass book burning and purges, mass disinformation, global restrictions on education and access to information. What do you think is happening?...

We have read about all this bullshit before haven't we?. All our past civilizations grew to untold heights of culture, science and advanced technology only to be obliterated by the barbarian hordes. We were supposed to evolve into an advanced civilization countless times in the past and each time a relatively small group of extremists burned everything to the ground.

As everyone here keeps saying...
They say, I cannot believe this bullshit is even happening in this day and age, it's embarrassing, it's incompetent, it's fubar.
Indeed it should not happen in this day and age and it's on us to call others out and invoke change. Make no mistake this is a war between the past and our future.

So as many here are starting to understand the time to act is now...

Regards
AC
Title: Re: Ukraine and Russia
Post by: Paul-R on May 12, 2022, 01:40:24 PM
A lot of sense there, AC. I think their problem is that they are deeply insecure and frightened - with no good reason but they are too messed up either to see this or to be convincable of it. They've lost their powers of reasoning and logic. I reckon what Russia needs is a radio station that can't be jammed.