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Author Topic: Ukraine and Russia  (Read 10463 times)

Offline onepower

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #75 on: April 19, 2022, 02:05:57 AM »
People are crazy...

Offline stivep

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #76 on: April 19, 2022, 05:18:13 PM »
in Western world, there is no propaganda and money first.
Nobody's interested with making Russian nation able to understand.

How could you possibly believe that?
Network news programs are the propagandaarm of the ruling elite in the US!
Even local news programs are involved!  >:(
Cadman
The problem is the word “belief.”
Science isn’t about “belief.” It’s about facts, evidence, theories, experiments.
You don’t say, “I believe in thermodynamics.”
You understand its laws and the evidence for them, or you don’t. “Belief” doesn’t really enter into it.
So as a proper formulation, saying “I understand science” would be a start. “
https://www.thebulwtalkark.com/why-i-dont-believe-in-science/

Social relation and its tools like news network is ruled by science too.
in Russia everything is closed, forbidden, restricted, for example:
you would be arrested if you are:
 -standing with white empty piece of paper
-standing with anything written on this piece of paper
-or just by standing and having nothing in your hands

-talking to other people
-not talking to other people
-placing black tape on your lips

-having proof of being innocent
-not having proof of being innocent
-or not being in the place of offense at all.
all of it doesn't help and makes you punished based on court's decision.
Typical punishment is from three days to 15 years in heavy labor prison.

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grey color in the morning looks like less black than the same gray color late evening.
Western world has nothing to do with propaganda in its Russian format.

easy explanation for you:in this video I'm showing something that you never saw in your lifetime.
Violent life of beta particles, in tiny piece of specimen.
https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI?t=350

But everybody around me passing by on the street would say, Wesley this is propaganda, we don't see any beta particles.and I would answer:
Compare it with violent life of betas in Chernobyl or volcano or life in Russia.

So quantitatively anything you would like to see as propaganda in Western world is like that tiny piece of specimen.
To really know what propaganda is you need to know what's going on in Russia.
Wesley
« Last Edit: April 20, 2022, 01:57:32 AM by stivep »

Offline NickZ

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #77 on: April 19, 2022, 05:45:40 PM »
   There may be much more to "Putin", than just him giving the orders.  As none of what he has done makes any sense. 
   When will we REALLY know what's going on? So, something can be done about it. Without any more people's life being affected.    Is there any difference, compared 911?   Or to Venezuela, where I'm from.
    There are madmen everywhere... And they would like us dead, and in eternal wars, while crashing our economic systems.    WHO are these few people, now controlling the world? We MUST stop them, before it's too late.

   NickZ

Offline kolbacict

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #78 on: April 20, 2022, 05:34:38 AM »
We MUST stop them, before it's too late.
The Western world cannot even refuse to buy energy resources from the aggressor. shame!
But you want to stop  the big boys.  ;D

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #79 on: April 20, 2022, 10:59:59 AM »

But you want to stop  the big boys.  ;D
Who are they?

Offline kolbacict

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #80 on: April 20, 2022, 11:36:20 AM »
These are the people Nick-Z is referring to.
I don't know. Probably the world behind the scenes ... :)

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Offline NickZ

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #83 on: April 20, 2022, 04:42:00 PM »
   Just the one "Big Boy" that lost his concience, needs to be stopped.He knows that he is dying and going to die soon, and will take a few hundred thousand with him. But, they will be waiting for him, on the other side. Where he can't hide from them, and they will do as they like with him, forever. That is what he really should be affaid of.
  The ETs will not allow him nor any one else to fuck up this planet and other related worlds with Nuclear weapons. Period.He thinks that he is in control. But, he's not...

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Offline onepower

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #84 on: April 21, 2022, 07:44:23 AM »
NickZ
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There may be much more to "Putin", than just him giving the orders.  As none of what he has done makes any sense.
   When will we REALLY know what's going on? So, something can be done about it. Without any more people's life being affected.    Is there any difference, compared 911?   Or to Venezuela, where I'm from.
    There are madmen everywhere... And they would like us dead, and in eternal wars, while crashing our economic systems.    WHO are these few people, now controlling the world? We MUST stop them, before it's too late.

I think the war in Ukraine makes sense to Putin.

Russia is a backwards thinking failed state with no tech sector. If the rest of the world moves away from fossil fuels to clean energy Russia would go bankrupt. So they probably started the war thinking they could disrupt the global economy and stall the transition to clean energy. It's working...https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/20/us-uk-and-canada-walk-out-g20-meeting-war-in-ukraine-russia
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a breakdown in international relations would severely undermine the global economy’s recovery from the pandemic and add to soaring inflation, pushing millions more people into poverty worldwide.

In comments made shortly before the protest, the head of the IMF, Kristalina Georgieva, warned 75 years of development gains were being put at risk by a splintering of international cooperation.

It's always the same sad story, a bunch of old men scared to death of a changing world. Make no mistake these cowards would collapse the global economy and drag everyone back into the dark ages given the chance. There were countless times in our history when mankind made rapid progress in science and technology and each time the barbarian mobs destroyed the civilization.

As John Wayne once said...‘Life Is Hard; It’s Even Harder When You’re Stupid’

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Offline kolbacict

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #85 on: April 22, 2022, 06:59:32 AM »
   Just the one "Big Boy" that lost his concience, needs to be stopped.
    NickZ
Well, stop him. :)
The West pays more than thirty times more for Russia's energy resources than it does for aid to Ukraine.
And already during the Second World War, American private companies sold oil products to Nazi Germany. :(  And the United States government turned a blind eye to it.
I am no longer surprised by anything. ;)
« Last Edit: April 22, 2022, 10:19:32 AM by kolbacict »

Offline Johnsmith

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #86 on: April 22, 2022, 06:50:24 PM »
Well, stop him. :)
The West pays more than thirty times more for Russia's energy resources than it does for aid to Ukraine.
And already during the Second World War, American private companies sold oil products to Nazi Germany. :(  And the United States government turned a blind eye to it.
I am no longer surprised by anything. ;)


  What I don't understand is that with so much wealth in the world today why quality of life isn't more of a priority. Americans hate Norway (I'm 1/2 Norwegian) because it's
a socialist country. I do compare the U.S. to Ancient Rome which fell because its senators fought over its wealth and its people exploited who they could when then could.
That simply isn't how to be a World Leader. I think the U.S. can do much better but then Putin and Trump are friends. I'll always get a laugh out of that one.
With Putin however, I wonder if he might be more concerned about the position the EU and NATO are in. It's more about developing an economy which is why Russia has
such a large military.
 With Russia being such a large country, infrastructure should've been improved so people could be more connected. Even in a place like Yekaterinburg or Yakutsk parks
could've been buried in the ground (20,000 square meters or more) about 15 meters deep with plexiglass or glass overhead, double pane of course. Then with geothermal
heat Russians could go outside like it's summer when it's -20º C. And they could always have the glass ceiling rise to 10 meters or more above ground level with artificial
lighting for winter. And in the summer, just store the glass panels.
 People do need to be able to go outside and be comfortable and enjoy being active.
 

Offline NickZ

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #87 on: April 24, 2022, 03:40:14 PM »
   Putin is dying:   https://youtu.be/zZpt6d0P94k
      Like I said, those who he is responsible for having killed, will be waiting for him on the other side.
     NickZ



Offline onepower

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #88 on: April 24, 2022, 08:57:51 PM »
Watched Evan Solomon on CTV roast the Russian ambassador, lol.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=2428255

Apparently the Russians are trying to peddle the bs story all the dead bodies and atrocities are fake news. I mean, the Russian ambassador may as well have pulled his pants down to his ankles and danced a jig because he looked like a complete fool.

Forget all the evidence, all the eye witness accounts and all the facts, it's all just fake news... right.

What's up with all these half-wits claiming everything they don't like is fake news?. Do they even realize how stupid they look?. That Russian ambassador is a real piece of work, lol.

Regards
AC

 


Offline stivep

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #89 on: April 24, 2022, 10:07:11 PM »
Current situation - about Russian aggression in Ukraine.
History:

Russia gifted Crimea to the Ukrainians in 1954
when the fall of the Soviet Union seemed unimaginable.

Aug 18, 1991 · collapse of the Soviet Union, sequence of events that led to the dissolution of the Soviet Union
on December 31, 1991.
The former superpower was replaced by 15 independent countries:
Armenia,
Azerbaijan,
Belarus,
Estonia,
Georgia,
Kazakhstan,
Kyrgyzstan,
Latvia,
Lithuania,
Moldova,
Russia,
Tajikistan,
Turkmenistan,
Ukraine,
and Uzbekistan.


And in 2014, Ukrainians rose up and kicked out its Russian-backed president.
Russia invaded and took back Crimea while occupying parts of the so-called Donbas region,
a large coal mining and industrial territory.
Over 14,000 people’s deaths have occurred between the rebels and Ukrainian forces.
https://www.forbes.com
Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine on 24 February 2022.
Much of the international community has condemned Russia
for its actions in post-revolutionary Ukraine, accusing
it of breaking international law and violating Ukrainian sovereignty.
Many countries implemented economic sanctions against Russia, Russian individuals, or companies,[22]
especially after the 2022 invasion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War

Today situation in Russia:

Asset freezing sanctions
Ban on Russian vessels and airplanes,
bans targeting Russia's technological and industry sector;
Ban on products In-N-Out of Russia,
Swift restrictions and ban on use of $.
ban on participation of Russian companies nor its activities,
Frozen private assets of Russian oligarchs including personal sanctions .
seized Russian banks assets in total over $600 billion.
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in a country known as world gas station:
domestic auto making industry is frozen due the foreign components.
growing prizes on goods, food, clothing.
Russian GDP fall down estimated at 20%
thousands of foreign companies left Russia.like MacDonald, Parada, Apple, Microsoft,
automakers like Volkswagen, Mercedes, Peugeot,
Russians had blocked Facebook, Twitter,/
media such as voice of America, radio Svoboda, Deutsche Welle, BBC, Bloomberg, and so on.

theft in Russia:
auto parts are not available so Russians are stealing
used  cars from other Russians then they chop them into parts and sell for 3-4 times
of the cost of new one.


Official Ruble exchange is 78 per dollar but you cannot buy 1 dollar for less than 300- 900 rubles.
The Kremlin can still avoid default if it pays back bondholders by May 4 in dollars.
Russia's foreign public debt as of February 1 was $59.5 billion, according to the Russian Ministry of finance.

Today .
-losses of Russia in war against Ukraine:
  according to Ukrainian government.

21,800 Russian fighters killed,
873 tanks  have been destroyed, along with
2238 armored vehicles,
179 planes,
154 helicopters and
408 artillery systems.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/scale-putins-losses-laid-bare-26787116


Today .
-chances and goals of  Russia in war against Ukraine:
Russia is failing to achieve nearly all of its war objectives in Ukraine,
U.S. and its allies have raced to supply Ukraine with heavy weaponry and modern military supplies.
russia-ukraine-latest-
Wesley
« Last Edit: April 25, 2022, 01:45:00 AM by stivep »