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Author Topic: Ukraine and Russia  (Read 9514 times)

Offline stivep

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #60 on: April 16, 2022, 04:00:55 PM »
These words do not apply to people who believe in God, but M. Twain was similar in his views of life to
Stalin, Lenin, Hitler and many others whom you probably consider an authority.
They considered people who believed in God to be evil to be killed. Why ? explain it if you can.
by physics, natural history, Darwin, official science, archaeology, biology, and all other existing evidence:
-no God or God's or any other belief based power exists or ever existed or will ever be able or willing to prove its existence.
In other words God is not recognized by modern science.

That of course doesn't affect anyone of you as civilization gives you rights to believe in whatever you want, whenever you want, and when you want.
I am Jewish and I respect that very much.
But I'm of course in physics and that I respected very much.
I promote and support official modern science and its models.
As a person dedicated to science I agree with every bit of recognized documented scientific data,and it's models.

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so why are you outside of your house with the dog – because you do it for that dog.
so why some of you are going to church - often because of your religious parents or family members or because of fear of being punished.
So why some of you are lying – because of the fear  of that truth damaging power.
So why in USA you are filing taxes voluntarily, on time and as truthful as you can- because of fear of being punished if ever.
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we do it because we trust the system as made on the rules obeyed by both the government and the nation.
And of course Russians don't do it.
Wesley

Offline onepower

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #61 on: April 16, 2022, 05:08:06 PM »
stivep
Well said and there is presently a war against science and facts.

Religion/Authoritarianism demands people believe in falsehoods without question but science asks only that we look at the evidence and decide for ourselves. Science is also based on education, to educate ourselves about how nature works to better ourselves.

More important science teaches us to question everything and demand proof. To act like a real man, a responsible intelligent man who can think for himself and doesn't need to follow others.

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so why some of you are going to church - often because of your religious parents or family members or because of fear of being punished.

Indeed, in ancient times many leaders and governments created gods to control the population. They found the mostly uneducated masses might question a leader but seldom if ever an imaginary all seeing god. Then they came up with a clever solution, the leaders would claim to speak the word of there god thus in effect become one, a man-god. Thus mere men could make others do and believe whatever they wanted and never have to deal with the consequences. It was not them commanding others to do all those things, it was a god.

It was devised as a means to control the poor so they wouldn't try to overthrow the wealthy who were robbing them blind. The narrative was that the poor and uneducated should be content with there life of servitude and never question authority. This was the true narrative which was taught, that no authority should be questioned. It was about control, wealth and power.

So, of course, science and facts which questioned everything was seen as an abomination much like today.

In my opinion what's going on in places like Russia, China, the Middle East and to a lesser degree North America is similar. Generations have been taught to never question authority in whatever form it may take, be it an imaginary god, man-god or government. They have literally been born into and taught a clever form of servitude and slavery.

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Offline r2fpl

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #62 on: April 16, 2022, 06:44:51 PM »
Man has been living for millions of years (1) and several thousand years, but recently we have a technique that, instead of answering questions, causes further questions. The more you know, the less you know. These are the words of the philosopher. Why is it like that ? why in the smallest particle there is always another still smaller? and there will be one more and again. We people, in their arrogance, want to know everything. We are a fish in an aquarium that will know only what they give it.
There will always be opponents of faith in God and will question his existence. It is even recorded in the Bible. 1900 years ago this was already known and it is now happening.
The orders and prohibitions are so that people do not kill each other because if there was no punishment, everyone would kill another person for an evil look, even and this is obvious. People over 1 million years ago prayed to the stones and the sun, believing that there was someone above them, and now people say that they are alone but are looking for foreign civilization. It is interesting.

Every faith in a good God is good and leads to life, and where there is no God, there is no life. What is this life in forced labor camps in China or North Korea? They do not tolerate any God except their leader and party.

We will all find out who was right, but until then, no one has to be an enemy to himself. Everyone should do for others what they like for themselves.
It is also true that the wars were religiously motivated, but were these wars good for the people? Does history teach others not to do this ?! Why learn history when we don't draw conclusions!


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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #63 on: April 16, 2022, 07:08:00 PM »
aggression of Russian Federation on Ukraine revealed that theft of ceramic toilets by  Russians (soldiers) who didn't have and use them in Russia was extremely important trophy to them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet
used and ripped off the removed Ukrainian toilets were transported to Belarus and then sent by post office there into Russian houses.


Russians are the same all the time. They still steal instead of thinking how to buy, make a nice new toilet. Just because they are poor doesn't mean they can be thieves and murderers. Robbing other countries. The world should finally stop and block the possibility of making wars. That, of course, will be when there are only a few million people left in the world after the world war.
The EU just wants to be comfortable and allows for the killing of those poorer than them. They don't understand that Russia will keep moving forward. The Lusters have their bunkers.
Russians believe in Putin and even if it is not 85% but 50%, it is still very disturbing for all of us. Russian citizens will even support a nuclear attack but do not believe that bombs will not fall on them. Until the Russian people feel what their president is doing, nothing will change. These people have a problem because they have closed handbag stores for them. This is terrible! they have no compassion for anyone other than themselves. Russia is destroying the Ukrainian people by murdering them. They use a forbidden weapon. They are like cowards because when children and the elderly, civilians, are murdered instead of soldiers, it is a genocide which aims to exterminate the citizens of Ukraine, Free Ukraine!


PL: chyba nie ma już wątpliwości że smolensk to robota tych cepów. Czy oni kiedykolwiek się do czegoś przyznali ? To się w pale nie mieści.

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #64 on: April 16, 2022, 10:35:08 PM »

Russians believe in Putin and even if it is not 85% but 50%, it is still very disturbing for all of us.
This may be because they have no idea what is going on in Ukraine. The cost to their exchequer must be phenomenal. 3,000 military vehicles reported destroyed - but not confirmed.
What is needed is a radio station that cannot be jammed, if it exists. What about an AM transmitter in geostationary orbit (at 20,000 miles). Could one of such focus and power be designed?

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #65 on: April 16, 2022, 10:46:49 PM »
r2fpl
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The orders and prohibitions are so that people do not kill each other because if there was no punishment, everyone would kill another person for an evil look, even and this is obvious. People over 1 million years ago prayed to the stones and the sun, believing that there was someone above them, and now people say that they are alone but are looking for foreign civilization.

This is absurd and the morality claim is a common fallacy.

If there were literally no laws or prohibitions tomorrow I would not change nor would most people I know. Intelligent people understand that if we treat others badly that gives them cause to do the same to us, thus we don't do it. You should recognize the theme as do not judge or you to will be judged in the same way. What goes around comes around or karma.

Most intelligent people are naturally moral people because they understand the consequences of there actions. It's the stupid people we have to watch out for because they believe there are no consequences to there actions. So the majority of killing and barbarism in the past came to an end because of education not religion.

For example, soon alternative and free energy technologies will go mainstream and all the wars over fossil fuels will be a thing of the past. People will become more educated about better more efficient ways of doing things. There will be no need to fight over energy and we will move into a new era.

I think this may be why Russia went to war with Ukraine. They have a primitive resource based economy with little or no technology sector. Renewable and alternative energy was eventually going to wipe out there fossil fuel sector and bankrupt them. So they needed to weaken other economies, disrupt supply lines and create a distraction. Why not a war?.

In fact, it backfired on them and now everyone I know is talking about EV's and renewable energy because of high energy prices. Russia literally accelerated the one thing they were trying to avoid. I'm not sure how Putin could be so stupid and they seem to have forgotten the saying, necessity is the mother of invention.

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #66 on: April 16, 2022, 11:50:16 PM »
stivep
Well said and there is presently a war against science and facts.

In my opinion what's going on in places like Russia, China, the Middle East and to a lesser degree North America is similar. Generations have been taught to never question authority in whatever form it may take, be it an imaginary god, man-god or government. They have literally been born into and taught a clever form of servitude and slavery.

Regards
AC
I do appreciate very much your opinion .Well done
Wesley

Russians are the same all the time. They still steal instead of thinking how to buy,
PL: chyba nie ma już wątpliwości że smolensk to robota tych cepów. Czy oni kiedykolwiek się do czegoś przyznali ? To się w pale nie mieści.
nie mam watpliwosci,,
thank you very much
Wesley
This may be because they have no idea what is going on in Ukraine. The cost to their exchequer must be phenomenal. 3,000 military vehicles reported destroyed - but not confirmed.
What is needed is a radio station that cannot be jammed, if it exists. What about an AM transmitter in geostationary orbit (at 20,000 miles). Could one of such focus and power be designed?
It is unfortunate but it'll unlikely be done simply because of :
-nature of electromagnetic waves,
-and lack of interest of technology advanced nations.
-unwillingness of Russian nation to be educated about world and its rules outside of Russian Federation.

summary:

it was done on the Internet YouTube by:
-radio free Europe na Ruskom ( Radio Svoboda)
-voice of America  na Ruskom
-Deutsche Welle  na Ruskom
-BBC  na Ruskom
-Belsat, VOT TAK
-Radio Svoboda  na Ruskom
-Current Time  na Ruskom
- Navalnyi Live,  Aleksei Navalnyi
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you can't educate masses dominated by Russian TV propaganda;
and the only "language they will obey"{ is someone's strength overpowering them,
Wesley

Offline kolbacict

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #67 on: April 17, 2022, 09:04:45 AM »
What about an AM transmitter
There is AM broadcasting is normal, not satellite, it has.
In the western part, the signal is weak, but it is reseived, you can listen.
Ukraine broadcasts it, in the Ukrainian language. But no one listens to him,
he does not need anyone. Everyone is watching TV. ;D

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #68 on: April 17, 2022, 11:32:13 AM »
There is AM broadcasting is normal, not satellite, it has.
In the western part, the signal is weak, but it is reseived, you can listen.
Ukraine broadcasts it, in the Ukrainian language. But no one listens to him,
he does not need anyone. Everyone is watching TV. ;D
People will go for radio if there is useful content. Do you know the frequency or the name of this radio station?

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #69 on: April 17, 2022, 08:13:13 PM »
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Do you know the frequency or the name of this radio station?
Previously, they were at a frequency of 550 kHz. Now they have gone higher, I can’t say for sure.
This is Kiev radio, it has always existed before. Broadcasting, I think from the territory of Ukraine ...
The signal strength is low.

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #70 on: April 17, 2022, 09:32:34 PM »
Previously, they were at a frequency of 550 kHz. Now they have gone higher, I can’t say for sure.
This is Kiev radio, it has always existed before. Broadcasting, I think from the territory of Ukraine ...
The signal strength is low.

Low frequency is the ITU designation for radio frequencies in the range of 30–300 kHz. Since its wavelengths range from 10–1 km, respectively,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_frequency


Although my direction in physics is particle physics,
I happened to be to be quite good or possibly extremely good in most of directions related to
electromagnetic radiation, in entire spectrum from VLF to gamma radiation,
radio waves,
propagation,
antennas,
transmitters and receivers /transceivers,
transmission lines,
waveguides,
solid-state and tube based amplifiers,
means and modes of modulation,
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measurement and sensing of electromagnetic waves:
Vector network analysis,
impedance matching,energy transfer,
energy extraction and conversion,
practical communication and related problems specific to a given mode and frequency.

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there is a number of limitations of satellites using transmitters operating at very low frequencies.
It is mostly due to the size of an antenna its gain overall performance and very specific propagation characteristic
at for example 550 kHz.
some attempts have been made mostly by Chinese look at link below
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-981-15-5833-7_8
other links:
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19880005522

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in Western world, there is no propaganda and money first.
Nobody's interested with making Russian nation able to understand.
Looking at horrifying activity of Russian occupants at Ukrainian land peaceful Westerners would rather want them
to be isolated from rest of our civilized space.
Killers raping stilling damaging horrifying for no other reason than yeah ..just
one 70 years old Czar-the king of Russia, agenda,. ... didn't deserve that much of an attention.

Although rights to equality, dignity, and value, belongs to every human including Russians,
we have now (outside of Russian Federation) plenty of people who are  in  shame  or in fear  to admit that they are Russians.
Wesley
« Last Edit: April 18, 2022, 12:15:57 AM by stivep »

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #71 on: April 17, 2022, 10:32:31 PM »

Nobody's interested with making Russian nation able to understand.


looking at the posts I got into conclusion :
 you do not have Free Energy device
just because you don't want it.

there you have it all.
You have also step-by-step instruction in 2 languages.
You have instruction how to choose the functionality of the device.
You have a variation of the device that serves as:
–Kapanadze device
-energy sending from point A to point B device
-energy extracting from Schumann waveguide device


In my videos and in Link below :https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/240/
https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg559510/#msg559510
this link is in Russian language.


This is the unfortunate truth about Russians and not only.
Some of you may ask a question,why don't I make a device promote it,
manufacture it, and sell it.

The answer is simple.
I am an American not Russian.
My biggest joy is to understand processes.
Minimalist, enjoying life, taking the best of it.

Russians - well....   some  Russians,
tried to send me and Tariel Kapanadze into the Russian heaven in 2011 by terminating us both.
But I was lucky and Tariel who was an alcoholic couldn't eat much so he was just  sick and unconscious for three days after that.

Wesley

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #72 on: April 17, 2022, 11:44:08 PM »
I think the war will increase more and more. The recent lost of a warship is not good at all. I don't ear good news from that war, it is more an more bad news

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #73 on: April 18, 2022, 09:54:25 AM »
looking at the posts I got into conclusion :
 you do not have Free Energy device
just because you don't want it.

no, I have it. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRjGm9G4ivc

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #74 on: April 18, 2022, 08:09:28 PM »
in Western world, there is no propaganda ....

Wesley

How could you possibly believe that? Network news programs are the propaganda arm of the ruling elite in the US! Even local news programs are involved!  >:(

Sorry, off topic I know.

Cadman