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Offline lancaIV

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #45 on: April 10, 2022, 11:09:08 AM »
What the Russians are doing in Ukraine now are monkeys not even doing. I thought that only Putin was angry and his colleagues, but ordinary Russians, would agree with what he is doing.
I am in several Russian forums and they lie notoriously, but each one of them claims to be telling the truth. I already noticed this a few years ago.
Do you know what is important? They believe themselves. I don't understand them why they keep lying.


I think this nation has it coded in their DNA.
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"  ..... coded in their DNA ."

Natural,by humans ( genetical heritage),during life after birth : en-/in-coded !?
Good or bad composition !?

Misunderstood by outsider,what the DNA-holder means,how he/she/it acts ?

Supra-/majority-/minority- normal ?

Coach Mourinho,actually AS Roma  : The Special One  ::)   Coach Klopp,FC Liverpool : The Normal One  ::)           
       
                        References,(DNA-?)qualified : by experience,titles,rank,name/-s  !? 8)
                        BY BASE/DNA-BASICS ? :       DEDICATION ? BESTIMMUNG ? ETHIK ?
                        By perpetuum i'slam /jam /enthusiasm / Begeisterung / open Fuellhorn

                        and-und spending /giving


                        Ehre und Nennung,lebend wie tot, wem Ehre gebuehr-et
                        Schande und Nennung,lebend wie tot,wem Schande gebuehr-et


Ukrainian DNA majority interests,minority ? Ukrainian Constitution demands ....... !
Russian DNA majority interests,minority ? Russian Constitution demands ........!

European Council Charta- members majority interests ,minority ? European Charta demands ........ !
From Island Corvo/Azoren/PT/North- American Continental-plate   up to Siberian/Alascian U.S.A-frontier :
European DNA interests ? Good or bad,for peace or war,communitarism ?

How much " Marshall plan " or " Morgenthau plan " ?
DNA : more Marshall or Morgenthau,nomen et omen !?

DNA-information/formation- inter-/ex-changer ? :

https://www.google.com/search?q=neurophone&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
DNA: " mind and/or called memory "  storage

writer,reader ,effect :
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=der+glaeserne+Mensch&oq=der+glaeserne+Mensch&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l5

Tribunal : In quis ...... ? Neuronal receiver chamber    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M3U83QLoATU

       Und fuehrtet nicht in die Versuchung ! In die Untreue ! In den Verrat !
                                                             REVISION,frei von lokaler,zeitlicher Befristung

                                                             Rueckabwicklung
           
 The Worriest : der Leviathan,aber dieser ist in Schoepfungsunion GOTT-derselbst !

  ~ (  Koenig ) David gegen Goliath   

                                                Goliath ~ MATEMATICA ,die Kosmology ,das Gesamtarchiv,als "Monstrum,Ungeheuer "

            En-/De-/Sym-/bolik,En-/De-/Chiffrierung,En-/De-Codifizierung Ikonography  Kalligraphy DNAgraphy

https://www.google.com/search?q=neurophone&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

               Actually Genom-R&D evolution stage : in deutsch-german

For other languages here ( or other language automatic translator using ) wished website in-put-ting

https://translate.google.com/?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&op=websites

https://www.google.com/search?q=genom+entraetselt&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m


interference by forum-member LancaIV
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Every country has its lies and even religion too. We have to choose constantly, and it is getting more and more difficult.
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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #46 on: April 13, 2022, 01:24:41 PM »
 
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B6lkerrecht
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verfassung_der_Ukraine
Version 2000 p.C.n.
               2008 p.C.n.
               2014 p.C.n.
               2022 p.C.n.

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verfassung_der_Russischen_F%C3%B6deration

 Version  2000 p.C.n.
                 2008 p.C.n.
                 2014 p.C.n.
                 2022 p.C.n.

   
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA-Vereinbarung   Mitglieder-Verfassungen

z.B.

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verfassung_der_Vereinigten_Staaten
Version 2000 p.C.n
               2008 p.C.n
               2014 p.C.n.
               2022 p.C.n.

Alle haben sich einzufuegen,ausnahmslos ,:

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charta_der_Vereinten_Nationen
Einzige Legitimation nach Voelkerrecht,gueltige aktuelle Version  :

https://www.unmissions.org/
Alle anderen Militaereinsaetze,ohne U..N.-Mandat werden vor das

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationaler_Strafgerichtshof
gebracht !


https://www.n-tv.de/mediathek/videos/politik/Biden-Diktator-Putin-begeht-Voelkermord-article23265709.html
Friedenszeit,titular  : Staatsoberhaupt Staatspraesident,Monarch

Kriegszeit,verfassungskonform ,titular : Diktator
Friedenszeit,Kriegszeit,verfassungsvergewaltigend,titular : Despot,Tyrann

Joe Biden : U.S.A. ,voelkerrechtlich/strafrechtlich : a.Staatspraesident b.Diktator c.Tyrann,Despot
Donald Trump                                                              : a.  ?                             b.               c.
Obama,Bush,Clinton

Die Welt schlaeft nicht,dokumentiert ! Strafgerichtshof-dienlich,  INTERNATIONAL !

U.N.-Generalsekretaer Prinz Khofi Annan

https://www.google.com/search?q=durban+menschenrechtskonferenz+kofi+annan&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
" Not here,not yet !"- countdown beschleunigend !Tribunal,U.N.-Vollversammlungs-Plazet !
Reparation ! Wiedergutmachung !


AUGENMASZ :

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)

                     April 2021 data
by capita    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita





EUROPARAT-members 2020 ,before by some provoked conflict

            By the ukrainian Oligarchie-Nomenklatura !
https://www.google.com/search?q=ukraine+president&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
and the " Grauen Eminenzen" behind !?  8)

                           Minimum back to 2005 p.C.n. :   ;D

 https://www.google.com/search?q=bewerbung+euro+2012&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fu%C3%9Fball-Europameisterschaft_2012
Bewerbung, Auslosung : chronicle review !  Money-flow ! FIFA + UEFA ! Geheimdienste international !



https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europarat

Germany,BR Deutschland

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Germany

Russian Federation

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Russia


compared the importance :         

                                                                  1/20  by PPP-$ -  1/100   compared
Ukraine

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Ukraine
     Per capita PPP April 2021  World-Ranking : 120th positioning !     

     IMPRESSIVE POTENTE !  IMPRESSIVE EFFICIENT !

     IMPRESSIVE: Ucraine ,without the by the Sovjet-union leaned R&D ,ucraine-foreign brain capital,concentration !
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=vesperman+padrak+kiev&oq=vesperman+padrak+kiev&aqs=heirloom-srp..

    1990 interestant as R&D-Standort,2022 : die Karaeane ist schon laengst weiter gezogen !

     Now a brain empty future in front : Trappatonis "Flasche-laeer-Sindrome  ::) " !
     https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ub1zsUD7UNQ
      Agrikultur und Sightseeing,auch nicht schlecht ! Morgenthau-Plan !


Gini coefficient !     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient

                                   

                   Pinscher von Pinch unterscheiden koennen !
                   Ukraine as political Sub-region from Great-Polonia ? !  ::) ;) ;D


                   Renascimento : Polonia-Lithuania Rik or Raich or Ras or Rus   

                   Rus = deutsch Reich,Herrschaftsgebiet,Tag(ung)
                   Reichstag ~ REICHSREICH  TAGSTAG
                  Niemand behauptet dass Politiker interligent/intelligent zu sein haben !
                  Fuer fette Diaeten reicht es ! ::) Die existentielle Unverfrohrenheit !
     

                   https://www.google.com/search?q=polen+litauen+union&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
     
             
                   Satast Danaee ....   (Be-)Huete Dich vor den Danaern ......
                    2022 p.C.n. : 

                   Behuete Dich und dein KFZ vor den Polen und Litauern

                    auch wenn diese Dir Geschenke bringen moegen ,( bei Schenkern Hinter-Gedanken !) !

                    Ukraine nach Ost-Abspaltung,von per capita  Ranking 120 ins Bodenlose !
                    Anschluss ? Fusion ? Verlust der Souveraenitaet ,wie gehabt ! ;D






Hasardeure und Vergewaltiger, Parasiten jeglicher Arten&Weisen- offen und sublim- entmachten,abruesten,deindustrialieren !



MfG
OCWL
p.s.: persoenlich ist mir die Lebensart des V./W. Putin zuwider zuviele Wuerfe produziert !,aber seine Person ist bedeutunglos,diese Gestalt hat Russland und die geschriebene Verfassung 100% zu repraesentieren :

falls nicht 100% verfassungskonform ,extern sowie intern : Toetung !
Wie ueberall auf der Welt nun vorgegangen wird !
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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #47 on: April 13, 2022, 03:24:59 PM »
Frage :  die BRIC-Staaten und Verbuendete steigen aus der WTO aus,
alle kommerziellen,noch eventuell vorhandenen/existierenden,Warenrechte der G7 ,US$ -Basis,werden neutralisiert/abgeschafft,in deren - der WTO-Aussteiger- souveraenen Territorien ,
welche Folge fuer die Triple-Credit-Lever G7-economies ?
       Fuer die teuren Unis,Tourismusbranche(in-/direkt)Ueberkonsum-Dienstleister Kosmetika-Influencer  :'( ?
      Prognostiker und den Wirtschafts-Weisen-Instituten ?

     Makulatur,fuer den Abfalleimer,die falschen Zukunftsplaene ! Ausbeutungsbasierend,inter-/national !

      Die Finanzindustrie : Domino-Effekt !
     Eigentums-und Besitz-Wechsel von materiellen Vermoegen allerorten !

https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+domino+day&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m  ;D
China ,P.R., hat es schon im "Seidenstrassen-Projekt " paragraphiert : Zero Patents (Konzedierungen ) !
Die Welt schlaeft nicht,ich ausreichend ! ::) :D Sonst : gereichend awaked !
 MfG
OCWL
p.s.: Rasch vorwaerts in die Zukunft ?
https://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/oklahoma-bestraft-abtreibungen-kuenftig-mit-bis-zu-zehn-jahren-haft-17955729.html
Oklahoma deklariert sich,innerhalb des gueltigen Territoriums,
https://www.google.com/search?q=Oklahoma&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
als Vorreiter  : des " Bible belts," ,
zur Kredit-Zins-Freiheit-Zone ,so wie es aus konservativer Sicht der Dinge und "guten alten Zeit" NORM darstellt/-e :
Kreditzins-Verbot im C(h)ristentum :

https://www.google.com/search?q=kreditzinsverbot+im+Christentum&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
https://translate.google.com/?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&op=websites
Alles was Ihr tut und sagt und schreibt wird ebenso gegen Euch angewandt werden !
Luegner,Luegnerinnen : nach Tribunalspruch  oeffentliches Auspeitschen,a.durch Verwandte b. den Nachbarn (pl.)

Tit for Tat
OCWL
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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #48 on: April 13, 2022, 05:50:12 PM »
r2fpl
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If you believe in God you understand what is happening and who is behind it. If you don't believe in God, you only see people and what they do, but you still don't understand why. You say because they're bad people YES, but why do they do it when they have so much money?
It's easy to understand why people do bad things and in psychology it always relates to a lack of empathy. Unfortunately, in a majority of all cases the lack of empathy is learned from there parents. Our children are always watching and learning then copy what they see.

Another aspect is toxic competitiveness and masculinity, where a society convinces the population to believe they must always dominate others. Obviously one cannot always dominate and feel empathy because they contradict one another. So the population becomes more and more ruthless and uncaring always trying to dominate and claw there way to the top. This is why for many enough is never enough and they are slaves to wealth and power. They are slaves because they do not have the power to change.

Most organized religion has a similar effect teaching that those who believe are superior to others. It has morphed from "moderation and do good" to victimization and forcing beliefs on others to maintain the status quo. I mean, it would be easy to feel superior when one believes they cannot die and will live forever in a magical place like a god for eternity. However we should be clear, spirituality is not the same as organized religion which has become a cult. Spirituality relates to the individual and generally makes them a better person in my opinion.

Do you see the pattern?, all our beliefs have become more extreme because were competing with more and more people. As overpopulation increases we can expect all our problems to get worse. It's not going to end well and something has to give soon...

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« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2022, 06:58:24 PM »
onepower:

So why do people believe in God from the beginning? Who made our universe? If you don't put God here, you won't know the answer, and God suppresses everything and you don't need anything else.
Why is there so much war and evil on earth? You say: because people do not have empathy. Yes, but that's what comes from God. If you do not believe in God, you are looking for a rational explanation, but it is man's pride that is to blame. The present times are the beginning of getting rid of God from human consciousness. China - there is a ban on the punishment, inclusive. The same is slowly happening in other countries. You are to be like a thoughtless machine that conforms to the doctrine. This is what you see in Russia and North Korea now.
Faith in God is always love and goodness, forgiveness and faith. If not, it means that the religion comes from mammon.

I recently saw a video showing how long would it take for one basic primitive cell to arise by chance? 2-3 times longer than the great size of our universe. Further comparisons do not make sense, so as not to understand that this is not a coincidence, so God must be behind it and that's it. If you do not believe it out of conviction, check the present teaching.
Everyone believes what and who they want.

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #50 on: April 14, 2022, 02:54:26 AM »
r2fpl
In fact the majority of Russians, the government and Putin are devout Orthodox Christians who believe in a God just like you do. Apparently you haven't got your facts straight again.

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So why do people believe in God from the beginning? Who made our universe?

Obviously a "who" could never have the capacity to create a whole universe more so from nothing. This is simply your own ego talking trying to glorify yourself and mankind. The key words which give your real beliefs away are "who" and "made" when neither apply.

The facts we know suggest our tiny part of the universe is cyclical and there was never a true beginning or end to the whole universe. This is true because energy/matter cannot be created or destroyed only transformed. Therefore everything which does exist must have always existed somewhere in some form. In fact, all the matter and energy on Earth came from some other part of the universe thus we and everything we know are alien ie. not of Earth.

Science facts are often stranger than fiction...

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« Reply #51 on: April 14, 2022, 04:22:54 AM »
r2fpl
In fact the majority of Russians, the government and Putin are devout Orthodox Christians who believe in a God just like you do. Apparently you haven't got your facts straight again.

Obviously a "who" could never have the capacity to create a whole universe more so from nothing. This is simply your own ego talking trying to glorify yourself and mankind. The key words which give your real beliefs away are "who" and "made" when neither apply.

The facts we know suggest our tiny part of the universe is cyclical and there was never a true beginning or end to the whole universe. This is true because energy/matter cannot be created or destroyed only transformed. Therefore everything which does exist must have always existed somewhere in some form. In fact, all the matter and energy on Earth came from some other part of the universe thus we and everything we know are alien ie. not of Earth.

Science facts are often stranger than fiction...

AC
Importance !?   Provability !?   Argumentation by facts !?
What was first : the predicted/dedicated No/Never/End or the No/Never/Beginning ?
 https://www.sgipt.org/th_schul/pa/kek/pak_kek0.htm
https://www-sgipt-org.translate.goog/th_schul/pa/kek/pak_kek0.htm?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

 'devout'  ::) Teached Pidgin-phonetics ?

Confessor and Professor mimikry/simulation from niederen ,geistarmen,Kreaturen !
To be ' devot' https://wortwuchs-net.translate.goog/fremdwort/devot/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Russian Orthodox Church : Arians or Trinitists ? Which believe belongs nearer ' vox populi ' ,daybyday reality ?
After church (philosophy and/or administrative ?) split : Allrussians to Russisn Orthodox,Ucrainian Orthodox,...!?

The western life-art philosophy  [the ukrainian government ever 'to ( wish to)  belong' argument] ' in what believe' ?

Kind  a.regard b./s  ( " grauer Schimmel" ? " Anglo Saxon " ? Geistesprimitivlinge ! Erfahrungs-Arme !)

   Sprachendiversivitaet in einer kompakten Sprache ! Mehrzahl in Einzahl ! Irrationale Rationalitaet ! Set praxis !

btw: profile- diversivity ,included political- queer personalities,m. and f.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Ukraine   without Name/S.exus  for external representation mainly

https://de-academic.com/dic.nsf/dewiki/863965
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pr%C3%A4sident_der_Ukraine ii
Their political,geophysical orientation ? Interests : own puerse,the republic advantage  !?

Amtsenthebung Wiktor Janukowytschs  before/during/after rebellion ? Actors,in-/ex-ternal !?
     FREE /Sublim-suggestive/censored political  conservative or progressive press/media/TV (c.+p. Coalition ?)

                                                             landscape evolution  ?

for internal,1990 + : :
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Ministerpr%C3%A4sidenten_der_Ukraine

Their financial/political mentors/groups inter-/national behind/beside ?

Actually 'President' function filled by :

https://www.wsj.com/articles/who-is-volodymyr-zelensky-ukrainian-president-11646161781
A ' little ukrainian 'Trump' : https://www.wsj.com/articles/can-a-little-known-ukrainian-comic-stand-up-to-russia-the-west-worries-11554311018?mod=article_inline  !
https://www.google.com/search?q=russisch+orthodoxe+kirche+patriarchen+seit+1990&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
https://www.google.com/search?q=spaltung+russisch+orthodoxe+kirche&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m


https://www.deutschlandfunk.de/krise-der-orthodoxie-kirche-droht-die-spaltung-100.html



A ' urban zone child philosophy '- product or /and ' rural/suburbian zone child-philosophy'-product from
sovjet poste era ?!

       " May-'King' bik bisIEnaess "  ;D -eastern 1990-2014  IDEALism ,koste es was ES( dazu verlangen) wolle

          knowledge/experience/believes ? Or only ' media (owner) coach/es adviced/controled/installed ' ?


OCWL

p.s. :                     the fein thing, by fine Grobsinn  ! :

The 'Monty Python' group members

https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+monty+python&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P_G3RWb-azo 


discovered this queer-LGBT-behaviour- paradoxon :

             Anglo-Saxonic = not guide,more gay-lin-/lan-guage :

             https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IwHotyPnSgc

             SCHWUCHTELSPEECH ,ihr ' schwanzus longus' TUNTEN-/MAENNER-FICKER,maennliche

          Actually as good  in " Life-and lin-/lan/lon-guage PARADOXON application "

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=youtube+Little+Big&oq=youtube+Little+Big&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l5
         
                                                   Funny moments with FUN wishing

Hallo Ex-LGBT-Pres Donnyboy,LGBT-Old-noDrag-Queen Eliza II,LGBT-Pres Joe und LGBT-Kokser-Sohnemaennle,........
                                         FATHERFUCKER
In a world,where hyperphysics led empting atoms from their nucleus,biocells their nucleus,we shall not forget
as man and woman ,to a-/de-/re-spect one the other and our,male, and their ,female, wishes,'lusts/desiree' in/bydaybyday life bio-rythmical cycle :
https://www-welt-de.translate.goog/iconist/partnerschaft/article238133117/Principles-of-Pleasure-auf-Netflix-Was-man-ueber-Frauen--und-Orgasmus-wissen-sollte.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
                   
       And there is a need ,by law view point,by psychological view point and ethics :

This  documentary is worth watching for men and everyone who loves them

This  documentary is worth watching for children and everyone who loves them

Bio-/chemo- logical change : transgendric child (common case ) becomes a.mental b. by body male/female

       Pre-/Poste-basic school entree age ,in numerical number !? Hidden sexuality ! Joy/Joga of S.ex(taner)
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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #52 on: April 14, 2022, 09:25:21 AM »
onepower:

There are and have been many bad religions. You say the universe is renewing but who is doing it? where did he come from? I know you don't care because you don't want to believe in God as a creator. What's wrong with believing in God and loving another human being. You do the same thing every day, only instead of God you have money or other things you love.
Believing in God, I am sure that he listens to me and helps me because a rational man knows that he is not alone. I will not convince you because you have chosen your own way and let everyone go their own way.

If there was no faith in God long ago, people would have killed each other long ago.

Why do you want to live? what for ? why bother. That's what the cult believers said, and you are probably talking about them.


.....In fact the majority of Russians, the government and Putin are devout Orthodox Christians who believe in a God just like you do. Apparently you haven't got your facts straight again.
Muslims/Islam are also divided. You don `t know it ?

There is always someone who impersonates others.
Jesus said to his disciples: Those who will look like sheep will come, but they will be wolves dressed in sheep's skin.
This is what Russia is doing now !


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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2022, 09:51:52 AM »
onepower:

There are and have been many bad religions. You say the universe is renewing but who is doing it? where did he come from? I know you don't care because you don't want to believe in God as a creator. What's wrong with believing in God and loving another human being. You do the same thing every day, only instead of God you have money or other things you love.
Believing in God, I am sure that he listens to me and helps me because a rational man knows that he is not alone. I will not convince you because you have chosen your own way and let everyone go their own way.

If there was no faith in God long ago, people would have killed each other long ago.

Why do you want to live? what for ? why bother. That's what the cult believers said, and you are probably talking about them.


.....In fact the majority of Russians, the government and Putin are devout Orthodox Christians who believe in a God just like you do. Apparently you haven't got your facts straight again.
Muslims/Islam are also divided. You don `t know it ?

There is always someone who impersonates others.
Jesus said to his disciples: Those who will look like sheep will come, but they will be wolves dressed in sheep's skin.
This is what Russia is doing now !
        Religions/Deontology age in years

        Written languages age in years
        Spoken language age in years
        Spelled language age in years

https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+speak+and+spell+depeche+mode&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
https://www.google.com/search?q=speaking+differs+from+spelling&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

        https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=vocals+based+language+&oq=vocals+based+language+&aqs=heirloom-srp..


https://www.google.com/search?q=consonants+based+language&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
Function of vocals and consonants and ARTICULATION/BETONUNG von ORT/ZEIT SUBJEKT OBJEKT



Ernst-Sprache or Unterhaltungs-Sprache

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=human+evolution+steps+&oq=human+evolution+steps+&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l1
https://www.google.com/search?q=human+evolution&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m


https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=human+evolution+steps+&oq=human+evolution+steps+&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l1

https://theconversation.com/curious-kids-who-came-up-with-the-first-letters-116816
Humans began to communicate using speech some 50,000 years ago but writing has only been a part of the human story for the last 5,000 years.
                                                                       50 000 years ago  speech

                                                https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cro-Magnon-Mensch
                                                            for " Europe," ,endemical/migrant ? the de-sighner
                                           
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Homo_lumper_(deutsch)-Cro-Magnon.JPG

https://www.google.com/search?q=felshoehlen%21alereien&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

Laut einer Berechnung von Isabell Schmidt und Andreas Zimmermann (Universität zu Köln) aus dem Jahr 2019 lebten in der Zeitspanne von etwa 42.000 bis etwa 33.000 Jahren vor heute (cal BP) maximal rund 3300 Individuen in West- und Mitteleuropa.[33] „Nur fünf Gebiete in Europa hatten nach diesen Schätzungen überhaupt eine überlebensfähige Population von etwa 150 Personen oder mehr: Nordspanien, Südwestfrankreich, Belgien, Teile Tschechiens und der obere Donauraum. Dass die Zentren dieser lebensfähigen Populationen etwa 400 Kilometer voneinander entfernt waren, ist ein europaweit einheitliches Muster.“[34] Daneben seien noch weitere Gebiete Europas zumindest zyklisch – während bestimmter Jahreszeiten – besiedelt gewesen. Es habe sich um „hochmobile Jäger-Sammler Gruppen“ gehandelt, „die regelmäßig Distanzen von 200 km zurücklegten und zudem an verschiedene Habitate angepasst waren.“
                                                                         5 000 years ago  writtings

https://web.archive.org/web/20180503192928/http://whoami.sciencemuseum.org.uk/whoami/findoutmore

https://web.archive.org/web/20180408154550/http://whoami.sciencemuseum.org.uk/whoami/findoutmore/yourbrain/whatisspecialabouthumanlanguage/whendidhumansstarttalking
                             Human language probably started to develop around 100,000 years ago.
https://web.archive.org/web/20180419092350/http://whoami.sciencemuseum.org.uk/whoami/findoutmore

/yourbrain/whatisspecialabouthumanlanguage/whendidhumansstarttalking/whatislanguage

https://web.archive.org/web/20180419061417/http://whoami.sciencemuseum.org.uk/whoami/findoutmore/yourbrain/whatisspecialabouthumanlanguage

https://www.br.de/wissen/schrift-ursprung-keilschrift-mesopotamien-100.html
https://www.br.de/radio/bayern2/sendungen/radiowissen/erfindung-der-schrift-100.html

https://www.google.com/search?q=runen+oldest&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_religion
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/oldest-religions-in-the-world.html



 But,the known ' pragmatic' philosophies and their values ,philology/yPhysiology relationship :
                        Philosophy and Philology and Physiology  : difference ? In application ? In understanding ?

                                                          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nfFnbBUkxes

                                      TOTAL LANGUAGES LAWS applied TOTAL in TOTAL-PHYSICS,ASRT and ASRP
                                           VOR-STELLUNGS-KRAFT IMAGINATIONS-STAERKE ,ZIEL: MOTIV VOTIV

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #54 on: April 14, 2022, 10:23:23 AM »
In fact the majority of Russians, the government and Putin are devout Orthodox Christians who believe in a God just like you do.
No. It's not.  :)

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« Reply #55 on: April 14, 2022, 10:45:56 AM »
No. It's not.  :)
  ::)   https://www.google.com/search?q=Gott+in+russisch+kyrillisch&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
https://de.langenscheidt.com/deutsch-russisch/gott    MASKULIN  :-\
   Werdet doch mal WACH(T),Maenneken und Weiblein !

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=Bog+fuer+Gott+bedeutung+&oq=Bog+fuer+Gott+bedeutung+&aqs=heirloom-srp..

       BOG ~ FRIEDE RUHE NIRWANA NIHILISTIK SAETTIGUNG LEERE  - ABSOLUT, oder hinfuehrend -
       BOG ~ RUHEPOL SCHWEIGEN STILLE GENUSS "SPRACHLOS" "OHNE WORTE" "NO COMMENT "
       BOG ~ shalom ~ saalam ~ PEACE ~ PAZ ~ PACE ~ ........ aber all dieses ungeschrieben,darin sein


       https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veles_(Gott)  Naturalismus
Als Gott der Erde ist Veles der Gegenpol zum Donnergott Perun, was dem Gegensatz zwischen dem indischen Indra und dem Dämon Vala entspricht und auf ein hohes Alter dieses Kultes hinweist. Veles wird als gehörnte Schlange mit einem langen Bart dargestellt.
Veles wird vor allem in russischen Quellen genannt und trägt dort den Beinamen skotij bog  ‚Gott des Viehs‘. Aus den übrigen Gebieten sind nur Andeutungen in Orts- und Personennamen, Sprichwörtern und Liedern überliefert. Mit ihm sind südrussische Erntebräuche verknüpft, in denen die ersten oder letzten Getreidegarben den Göttern, Naturdämonen oder Heiligen geopfert wurden. Die Benennung der Plejaden bei den Ost- und Südslawen als Volosyni (russisch), Vlascite (bulgarisch) oder Vlašići (serbisch und kroatisch) wird ebenfalls mit Veles in Verbindung gebracht. Sein Name erscheint noch in den mittelalterlichen russischen Heldenliedern, den Bylinen. Der hellsehende Sänger Bojan tritt darin als sein Enkel auf.
Im 10. Jahrhundert wurde Veles als Gott der Rechtsordnung neben Perun auch beim Abschluss der russischen Verträge mit dem byzantinischen Reich angerufen. Idole der Gottheit erwähnen die Legenden des Heiligen Wladimir und des Hl. Avraam Rostovskij: Fürst Wladimir I. ließ nach seiner Taufe eine Statue des Veles in den Fluss werfen, Avraam vernichtete ein Steinidol in Rostow.
Nach der Christianisierung wurde Veles zum Teufel umgedeutet, sein Name taucht in dieser Funktion in Sprichwörtern auf. Die Rolle des Viehbeschützers übernahm, vermutlich aufgrund der Namensähnlichkeit, der Heilige Blasius

https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11161

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perun
Die umfangreichste Dokumentation in schriftlichen Quellen stammt aus dem ostslawischen Bereich: Die Nestorchronik nennt Perun als göttlichen Bürgen für die Verträge der Kiewer Rus mit dem Byzantinischen Reich in den Jahren 907, 912, 945 und 971. Im Jahr 980 ließ ihm Fürst Wladimir I. in Kiew ein Holzidol mit silbernem Kopf und goldenem Bart errichten, ein weiteres Standbild entstand zeitgleich in Nowgorod. Doch bereits 988/989 wurden beide Idole im Zuge der Christianisierung zerstört. Die Verehrung des Donnergottes ist im Volksglauben aber bis weit in die Neuzeit, bei den Bulgaren bis in das 18. Jahrhundert nachweisbar.

        https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panslawismus  fuer Gesamtslawismus ( weniger Panfloetengott-Slawismus)

Ursprünge und literarischer PanslawismusBearbeiten Bereits im 17. Jahrhundert[2] schrieb der kroatische Russlandreisende Juraj Križanić eine Reihe politischer, theologischer, linguistischer und geschichtlicher Werke, in denen er zu einer Vereinigung aller Slawen unter russischer Führung aufrief. Dabei ging er von einem gegenreformatorischen Standpunkt aus, der eine Union der Kirche forderte und muslimische Osmanen und protestantische Deutsche verurteilte. Er war jedoch ein Einzelgänger, dem es nicht gelang, eine Bewegung zu entfachen.
Der Panslawismus entstand als romantische Tendenz innerhalb der slawischen Völker im Zeitalter des Vormärz, als Reaktion auf die Unterdrückung durch die Restauration.[2] Einige der frühesten Erscheinungsformen der panslawischen Idee innerhalb der Habsburgermonarchie sind auf Jan Kollár und Pavel Jozef Šafárik zurückzuführen.[2][3] Ausgangspunkt der Bewegung war der deutsche romantische Nationalismus (Herder und seine Volksdefinition).[4][2]
Der Begriff „Panslawismus“ wurde 1826 zum ersten Mal benutzt, als der Slowake Jan Herkel eine gemeinsame slawische Sprache forderte, in der eine allen Slawen verständliche Literatur („sive verus panslavismus“) geschrieben werden könnte. Bei dieser ersten Phase handelte es sich um eine vornehmlich literarische Idee, die noch nicht mit politischen Forderungen einherging.[5]

  writing speaking spelling laws !? Incl. temporal/regional language re-/formation,fixation: first dictionary !?

                  new migrants influence,other religions ( jiddisch,ashkanasi,sefardisch),turk-mongolean

                                                cristianisation influence : (old,new)greek-kyrill / latinum

                                                Slave  Slawe  Sloawe Sklave Slowake Slowen

                                                Ober-/Unter-  Kaernten Krainer Krajina

                                                          " Deutsch-Slawien",Sorben et cet.
                                         https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WeC8doU-zps

Angeln,Sachsen,Friesen,Franken ,Alemannen,Hessen,Awaren, ......  + romano/ladinisch

        "Latein"  : auf platt- duetch/dutch/dieutsch/deutz/teutsch  gesprochen
Eine Viel-Voelker-Konfederation genannt Bundesrepublik Deutschland Federal Republik of Germamy Alemagne

                                                                      Eine Voelker-Union



Kiewer Rus  ,da der (Stimm-Laut = )Vokal u oft auch mit stimmlichen jeweiligem aeio ersetzt wird ist die Bezeichnung dem heutigen RAS in
daenisch-skandinavischen,aber auch altdeutschem vorzufinden,da der heutige Term " der Rat " vormals ,vor institutlicher Fixierung,Radt Rath Radth geschrieben wurde,dabei die phonetische Differenz " hartes und weiches," zu beachten ist so ein "hartes d" von einem " weichem d" zu unterscheiden ist : weich ist es wie ein sh zu behandeln,phonetisch ,aehnlich th im Englischem !
Kiewer Rus also mit " Kiewer Rat " oder als hegemonialer Begriff " Kiewer Reich" ,da der Begriff Rat
dem Begriff Sovjet/Sowjet gleichgestellt ist :  Kiewer Sovjet

Weimarer Raete-Republik oder Weimarer Sovjet-Republik ,in der Bedeutung identisch !
Bundesrat = Bundessovjet     Bundestag = Bundesras

Ras fuer Rat oder Tagung/Versammlung/Konferenz vom 24 h/lichten Tag zu unterscheiden :

Dagblad oder Tageblatt als Zeitung

Wir differenzieren inhaltlich,siehe rechtliche Differenzierung Eigentum/Besitz  andere haben dafuer nur einen einzigen Begriff ,Eigentum=Besitz ,was falsch ist ! Etwas ausleihen = kein Eigentumswechsel ,Besitz/Nutzer ja !



Auf der Suche nach dem " Platz an der Sonne" ,nem ' heimeligen Schattenplatz',unter der Glucke,im Warmen ?

                                     The easiest and shortest way to "felicita" ? Genuegsamkeit
     
               https://www.linguee.de/deutsch-englisch/uebersetzung/gen%C3%BCgsamkeit.html
                                            https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epikureismus

           
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ataraxie
                                              ? Beispiel ! ?
"des Ko(s)miker gespielte Hohe Kunst " : nen ganzen Tach (kurz oder lang ) Baum

                                  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i9SgCXzmgoc
                                  Verdrehte Welt : Ernst,nich oder Unterhaltung  !?
                                  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nCUtEKFn07I




https://www-spirit--impuls-de.translate.goog/geschichte-der-fischer-und-der-investmentbanker?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp


Mit Zeitgeist und Ortgeist lebendig sein , wie im Himmel so auf Erden

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&ei=Xv9XYoP1PKqHxc8P87qwoAE&q=beweine+nicht+die+toten+beweinen+die+lebenden&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiDnJ3js5P3AhWqQ_EDHXMdDBQQ7Al6BAgBEAI&biw=600&bih=784#imgrc=Tp6uMIv3sinYcM
                                             Die Seele baumeln,galgen(-humorig) ,lassen

                                       https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm8UWmXCMAg
                                                    vom Original linguistisch modified

                                                       Lyrics : english/deutsche Version

AUS WIKIPEDIA für alle gläubigen mit wenig oder ohne Humor.

 "Die Satire zielt auf den Dogmatismus religiöser und politischer Gruppen. Insbesondere christliche, aber auch jüdische Vereinigungen reagierten mit scharfen Protesten auf die Veröffentlichung. Die folgenden Aufführungsboykotte und -verbote in Ländern wie den USA, Großbritannien oder Norwegen fachten die Kontroverse um Meinungsfreiheit und Blasphemie weiter an. Obwohl der Vorwurf der Blasphemie von praktisch allen Seiten entkräftet wurde, ist die Satire nach wie vor bei strenggläubigen Christen umstritten und gilt aufgrund ihrer rezeptionsgeschichtlichen Bedeutung als Paradebeispiel für die Reibungspunkte zwischen künstlerischer Meinungsfreiheit und Religionstoleranz. Filmkritiker und die Pythons selbst bezeichnen Monty Python's Life of Brian aufgrund seiner kohärenten Geschichte und intellektuellen Substanz als das reifste Werk der Komikergruppe. Zahlreiche Umfragen bestätigen den anhaltenden Erfolg beim Publikum. Das Abschlusslied Always Look on the Bright Side of Life wurde weit über den Filmkontext hinaus bekannt."


FROM WIKIPEDIA for all believers with little or no humor.
 "The satire aims at the dogmatism of religious and political groups. In particular, Christian, but also Jewish associations reacted to the publication with sharp protests. The subsequent performance boycotts and bans in countries such as the USA, Great Britain and Norway fanned the controversy about freedom of expression and blasphemy further Although the allegation of blasphemy has been refuted by practically all sides, the satire is still controversial among devout Christians and is considered a prime example of the friction between artistic freedom of expression and religious tolerance due to its historical importance.Film critics and the Pythons themselves describe Monty Python's Life of Brian as the comedy group's most mature work due to its coherent story and intellectual substance. Numerous polls confirm its continued success with audiences. The closing song Always Look on the Bright Side of Life was well over known beyond the context of the film."


Tuntenficker kennen keinen Humor ,scheinbar ! ::)
Aeh,schlusz mit Spaczegeselshafft !
Is dok so,Harry(nit https://www.welt.de/print-welt/article363964/Mit-Hakenkreuz-zur-Party-Prinz-Harry-macht-Skandal.html )

sonern ( ohne d ) der https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qCX2dRFTMw
 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qCX2dRFTMw
Nu wird 1000 Jahre oder mehr rueck-getrashed !
Voller Trash,im voraus :

https://m.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/die-passion-rtl-musical-mit-gottschalk-klaws-und-endlich-17957920.html



 
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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #56 on: April 14, 2022, 04:41:10 PM »
r2fpl
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You say the universe is renewing but who is doing it? where did he come from?

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." ― Mark Twain

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If there was no faith in God long ago, people would have killed each other long ago.
Why do you want to live? what for ? why bother. That's what the cult believers said, and you are probably talking about them.

"Our world is not divided by race, color, gender, or religion. Our world is divided into wise people and fools. And fools divide themselves by race, color, gender, or religion." Nelson Mandela

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #57 on: April 14, 2022, 05:25:04 PM »
r2fpl
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." ― Mark Twain

"Our world is not divided by race, color, gender, or religion. Our world is divided into wise people and fools. And fools divide themselves by race, color, gender, or religion." Nelson Mandela

AC

These words do not apply to people who believe in God, but M. Twain was similar in his views of life to Stalin, Lenin, Hitler and many others whom you probably consider an authority. They considered people who believed in God to be evil to be killed. Why ? explain it if you can.

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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #58 on: April 16, 2022, 02:04:05 PM »
human elements of every nation are the members.
In Russia unprivileged members limited access to the information allows elites and those who are privileged
often to use and abuse them.
in my personal opinion it is Mafia style structure based on fear.
Russian nation was in average earning from $100-$300 per month per person.
Today you can't buy a 1 dollar officially or not -  even for 300 rubles while official Russian price for one dollar is for example 82 rubles, – think about bent reality in some sort of horror movie.


Moscow and St. Petersburg were serving as a centers while rest of the country was
often culturally, structurally, technologically, socially, in abandonment

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aggression of Russian Federation on Ukraine revealed that theft of ceramic toilets by  Russians (soldiers) who didn't have and use them in Russia was extremely important trophy to them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet
used and ripped off the removed Ukrainian toilets were transported to Belarus and then sent by post office there into Russian houses.


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morale of Russian army is low. They don't want to die for privileged Russian elite/Mafia agenda.Ukrainians have no were to go and must fight
 Russian army is an aggressor.
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Re: Ukraine and Russia
« Reply #59 on: April 16, 2022, 03:11:05 PM »
Please watch this video, very important.

https://youtu.be/aqKfSbhm6yo
this and that guy next video review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ppIR_zd_uQ
it shows that he is in business of promoting the book :"the most dangerous superstition"
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some intelligent moneymaker uses his skills – well nothing wrong.
In the same time you are becoming a victim of his oral skills.
The guy has no idea about Eastern Europe and its conflicts.
He admits that but at the same time he's driving you into absolutely wrong, conclusions.
China's big wall historically made more damage to the Chinese,
intellectually, technologically, socially,then the benefit of planned isolation.
In contrast Russia was expansive, dictatorship, and monarchy.Despite all political changes the character of Russian reality remained.
Starting from 1917 the communist revolution Russia was ruled not by kings and czars but by dictators.
They were even worse and created terror at unprecedented scale. But the nation that didn't know what is freedom was told that the suffering
is only temporary and is leading to better bigger and brighter future of their children.and that did of course never happened.


conclusions:
the author negates existing Western mechanisms proposing nothing but madness – no skeleton of new and better word was ever proposed by him.
In the same time Eastern European countries dreams about system and freedom Western world already has achieved.
In my personal opinion this guy would be a perfect tool for Russian propaganda that is willing collapse of Western values .
But if that guy was doing exactly the same speech in Russia for Russian audience he would end up in the biggest Russian jail or got killed.

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