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Offline SolarLab

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #2055 on: January 19, 2023, 08:31:50 PM »
 Further to my "CLOWN - TROLL Exposure and What To Watch Out For" post above:

Since many of these Clown/Trolls are paid for posting and sometimes paid even more when you respond to their posts;
they can be quite persistant, as we have all seen, even to the point of being pesky. This is easily observed in many cases.

The best defence against this is to "Simply DO NO RESPOND" to them. Often times they will just "move on to another
thread" where they can gain a little more for their time and effort.

Clown Trolls can be a real problem, but exposing them and knowing how to mitigate their affect on a subject goes a long
way in combating this plague. 



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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #2056 on: January 20, 2023, 12:34:59 PM »
Hi rakarskiy,
Those two equations are the same, just each reduced for ease of use in rectilinear vs polar coordinates.
Flux = B * A     A is area
A/s = l * v      length is perpendicular to velocity
B*l*v = Flux/s = V      V is voltage
k * Flux * f = Flux/s     frequency is (per second)
k is constant relating polar to rectilinear (circular area)
minus sign is Lenz law, not required in first equation because B is vector having proper direction.
Substitute in units for variables and equality is apparent.
What do you see as a radically different principle?
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Hello beastander!
Mathematics and the essence of the process are two different things.
I unfolded and connected these formulas, even used them as a verification calculation, but in fact - it turned out to be completely different processes. Physics cannot explain one of them, and calls it an engineering formula. I succeeded, it remains to check what I'm doing.
Sincerely.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #2057 on: January 20, 2023, 06:25:08 PM »
https://figueragenerator.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/patent-clemente-figuera-44267.pdf
http://www.rexresearch.com/figuera/figuera.htm

I absolutely agree that there is no exact indication of whether a complete flow change occurs or not on a Clemente Figuera machine.
There is only one explicit indication, this is the simulation of the operation of an electromechanical dynamo.
True, there are some issues that need to be addressed. I, like many others, fell for this. I have a very strong belief that something in the patents themselves has been changed.
Why, because there are two formulas for the EMF of the generator and differ radically in the principle of inducing EMF in the conductor.


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2π : √2  = 4,44

Hi Rakarskiy,

This may be of not much value to you but the topic was addressed in this post a while back on the OUR Forum. It explains in some detail
the differences between Faraday's Law and Lorentz - and the fact that the differences have never been really
resolved - however both equations arrive at the same answer.

Re: Holcomb and other FE technology debate « Reply #78 on: 2022-04-16, 17:54:59

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98564#msg98564

A copy of the post:

Sorry for the long post but this is very important towards understanding (analyzing) Holcomb's and other devices.
Two Electromagnetic Equations - Yield the Same Results

Of the four laws of electromagnetism, let's consider only Lorentz Force and Faraday's Law of induction. They both
arrive at the same answer; but their mechanisms are different. Some may say Faraday's Law is associated with Lenz whereas
Lorentz is not - Faraday deals with an alternating magnetic field - Lorentz deals with a sweeping (traveling) magnetic field.

Review the earlier "Asymetric transformers - AAbramovich Discussions" section "Equivalence of induction according to Lorentz and Faraday"
and the information below. Note that the differences between Faraday and Lorentz were never really resolved - history - seems Einstein
got in the way - since he couldn't solve it, he started a new branch of physics - Special Relativity - and further attempts at a resolution faded.

Lots of reading but worth it!

Four Laws of Electromagnetism

https://www.motioncontroltips.com/four-laws-of-electromagnetism-you-should-know/

https://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/physics/panvini/p110a/lect37c.html

Why Faraday's law and Lorentz force create the same electromotive force?
The Faraday’s induction formula (flux rule) of electromagnetism says that the electromotive force (emf) created in a conducting circuit
is equal to the rate at which the magnetic flux through the conducting circuit changes as it is written on a high school text in physics.

This emf can be calculated in two ways: either by using the Lorentz force formula and calculating the force acting on electrons in the
moving conductor of the circuit; or via one of Maxwell’s equations (Faraday’s law) and calculating the change of the magnetic flux
penetrating through the circuit. The Lorentz force formula and Maxwell’s equations are two distinct physical laws, yet the two methods
yield the same results.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/09/170926085958.htm

Includes a bit more "history" - Faraday's Law of Induction:

https://www.dataforth.com/faradays-law-of-induction.aspx

... "This is not exactly what Faraday described but was called Faraday’s Law by Oliver Heaviside. It does
not include the movement emf; that is the force effect Faraday found. The magnetic force is called Lorentz
force. Current flowing in a wire in the presence of a magnetic field will experience a force and move if not
restrained. In this case, magnetic energy is released kinetically." ...

" The previous mention of the relative motion of magnetic field and electric circuit has had considerable thought by many,
well-known physicists.  Richard Feynman stated: (1) So the "flux rule" that the emf in a circuit is equal to the rate of change of the 
magnetic flux through the circuit applies whether the flux changes because the field changes or because the circuit moves (or both) …

Yet in our explanation for the rule we have used two completely distinct laws for the two cases Faraday's Law equation (both vector
quantities: -v x B) for "circuit moves" and Faraday's Law equation (vector: V x E = -dtB) for "field changes".

We know of no other place in physics where such a simple and accurate general principle requires for its
real understanding an analysis in terms of two different phenomena.
Richard P. Feynman, The Feynman Lectures on Physics
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Lorentz Force 3d view animation video (Lorentz is near the end, 6:26)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ9YRWYv2cY

---------------------------- Food for thought ---------
Professor Eric Laithwaite: Magnetic River 1975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI_HFnNTfyU
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So the question arrises: Does your 3D/2D CAE EM Maxwell's equation based analysis also include Lorentz Force?
CST - TBD, test solution against numerical.
Ansys EM - TBD, test solution against numerical.
COMSOL - allows review of equations used - check analysis insitu - test solutions.

Regards,

SL

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #2058 on: January 20, 2023, 10:53:41 PM »
SL, hello!
Are you sure that the Lorentz Force exists at all and is not a fiction of physicists? We still do not know the exact cause of the occurrence of an electric vortex field (EMF). We know the consequence no more.
Physicists cannot accurately tell the nature of the electric and magnetic fields, all they tell us is concepts. True, this does not prevent engineers from designing and building electrical mechanisms.
Sincerely

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #2059 on: January 20, 2023, 11:40:06 PM »
SL, hello!
Are you sure that the Lorentz Force exists at all and is not a fiction of physicists? We still do not know the exact cause of the occurrence of an electric vortex field (EMF). We know the consequence no more.
Physicists cannot accurately tell the nature of the electric and magnetic fields, all they tell us is concepts. True, this does not prevent engineers from designing and building electrical mechanisms.
Sincerely


Rakarskiy,

At the time my research was directed towards determining whether or not the CAE Platforms understood, and could work with,
the Lorentz Force and what effect that might have on the analysis. My Engineering hat was on, not my Physics hat!

Since the conclusion of my search ended in "Two Equations that yield the same answer," plus, it appears that it has never been
resolved, I had to move on.

Using Professor Thomas A. LIPO's "INTRODUCTION TO AC MACHINE DESIGN" book the conclusion was somewhat explained.

With respect to the CAE question - it's clear that if both equations yield the same answer - then, of course, the question
becomes moot.

SL

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #2060 on: January 21, 2023, 07:33:34 AM »
Hello SL!
I think you will still have the opportunity to make sure of everything on your own, on a practical model.
My opinion (as it turned out, not only mine), the Lorentz Force is a mirage of mathematics, which is derived as opposed to the Ampère Force equation.
Sincerely.

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The Lorentz magnetic force is determined by the relation:
L F = [v,B] q , (3.1)
where B is the induction of the magnetic field, and q is the charge of a particle moving in this field with a speed v. This formula was obtained at the end of the 19th century by the Dutch theoretical physicist H. Lorentz, who generalized Maxwell's equations to the case of motion of single charged particles. Long before Lorentz (in 1820), Ampere established that there is a force interaction between electric current and a magnetic field, which is determined by Ampère's empirical law:
A F = [l, B] I . (3.2)
This relation determines the force acting in a magnetic field B on a section of wire l oriented in the direction of current I. The Lorentz force (3.1) describes the interaction of a single charged particle with a magnetic field. It can be obtained from Ampère's law if the force (3.2) is divided by the number of particles involved in the creation of the Ampère force (see, for example, [1]):
Suppose a conductor of length l contains N free charges q. Then the electric current can be expressed by the dependence I=(N/l)qu, where u is the speed of the "drift" of electrons in the conductor (the speed of the directed movement of particles). Since this speed coincides with the direction of the conductor, expression (3.2) can be written in the form:
F = [u,B] A Nq . (3.3)
Dividing (3.3) by the number N of charges in the conductor and equating the velocity of each particle to the drift velocity (v = u), we obtain an expression for the force acting from the magnetic field on one particle – Lq N
FL = FA/N = q [v,B] coinciding with (3.1).
Ampère's law is an experimental dependence that describes well the interaction of an electric current with a magnetic field. The Lorentz force (3.1) is obtained from Ampere's law by elementary mathematical transformations. But let us ask ourselves a question: does dependence (3.1) reflect the participation of magnetic forces in electromagnetic induction?
Can the Lorentz force create an emf? The question is not idle!

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The first thing is electromagnetic induction on the conductor section. in an electric circuit, and here the magnetic circuit as a source.

Second, what is voltage drop and how does it affect the amount of current.

Thirdly, how does the process of the emergence of EMF (vortex electric field on the conductor) occur in two versions of the generator, if it can be expressed in one word.

Fourthly, we do not know what electricity is, for example: https://overunity.com/11029/safe-one-wire-energy-transfer-by-serbian-inventor-milutin-miletic/

Try to connect all this with the generator.

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« Reply #2061 on: January 21, 2023, 12:25:14 PM »
Why does everyone ignore my remark about the placement of the windings inside this generator.
Windings that will be short-circuited by contacts or electronic keys, such as a mosfet.
Shorting such a winding is not energy-consuming.
If these windings are in the right place and closed at the right time, this will make changes in the rotation field processes. Changes can be harmful or possibly beneficial.
But most importantly, we do not need to waste energy on this. ;)

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #2062 on: January 21, 2023, 01:05:58 PM »
Hi kolbacict,
It's not you, many people on these forums are self center or just  keep quit due to back lash. Is this a woke forum?

I am working on something related to the Holcomb device. It also seems to be dealing with the Tom Bearden MEG effects.
I believe their seems to be unknown effects including BEMF, another reason I'm going to investigate in the future build.

I seen the video's and believe they could be using a DC pulse to create BEMF (flyback Effect), but like many vidoe's today it's very hard to comprehend everything we see.
Tom





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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #2063 on: January 21, 2023, 02:55:24 PM »
Why does everyone ignore my remark about the placement of the windings inside this generator.
Windings that will be short-circuited by contacts or electronic keys, such as a mosfet.
Shorting such a winding is not energy-consuming.
If these windings are in the right place and closed at the right time, this will make changes in the rotation field processes. Changes can be harmful or possibly beneficial.
But most importantly, we do not need to waste energy on this. ;)

Because, Holcomb has also worked out such an option. Look at all his options, especially the dual generator.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #2064 on: January 21, 2023, 08:25:15 PM »
 LinGen - Summary To Date - This is a Personal Project - Nothing More

Let me state very clearly - up front - my approach to this project is not meant to promote anything nor attempt to convince anyone
to do anything - it's a personal project, for my self-education and discovery. It is only presented publically in an atttemp to share
information and hopefully educate and enlighten, if possible. Stimulating discussion and soliciting constructive ideas about the
device was never, and is still not, a remote intent of my presentations.

Testing and Varifying the Concepts

A large part of the initial LinGen design and development was to "test" some of the concepts found in Dr. Holcomb's patent
disclosures and do some "testing" in such  a way that iterative re-building for "further re-configuration testing" would be lessened,
or eliminated. A flat clam shell structure with easily insertable coils and access to the coil terminals appeared
to fill that requirement quite well. The LinGen follows closely the original "Cell Phone" design Dr. Holcomb included in one of his
patents.

Use of CAE Integration within the Development Process

A large part of this investigation is to test and varify the use of modern CAE as a device design and development tool. CAE in the
design cycle has many obvious advantages.

LinGen Approach

Four North and four South coil slots driven by a common off-the-shelf, high performance, programmable microprocessor that is
available on a pre-fabricated (Neucleo) development PCB with a large variety of combinations, including LCD and nearly all periphrials
along with a comprehensive free IDE is a good choice for the Controller. MOSFET Driver boards with up to four high performance
channels including level translatiors, drivers and FETs are also available at reasonable cost.

This eight slot, so called, Rotor and eight slot Stator (LAP winding) form a Module. Many Modules can be cascaded to achieve any
variety of configurations. Scaling of the Modules can also be achieved as required which makes this LinGen design quite versatile
in both size and output.

LinGen Metal Fabrication Challenge

Briefly, finding and fabricating "electrical steel" or "soft iron" used in the Module is a challenge. Soft Metal Compounds (SMC) [formed
from metal powders] even in the small slabs needed for prototyping was cost prohibitive and not versatile enough to suit the task.
Simple slabs of SMC required machining and the costs were prohibitive (~ $800/module). Scrap metal with the needed B-H
characteristics for testing is near non-existant. Luckily, recent advances in Diode and Fiber Lasers, although still expensive, provided
a way forward. A variety of metal foils with various B-H characteristics can be had at reasonable cost and Laminations can be Laser Cut
and stacked to meet the assorted design iterations and tests. 

Whats Next

Initial tests of the LinGen appeared positive. CAE integration is a huge success. In-situ material testing is progressing. A Technical Course
is being written as the development moves along which includes a comprehensive informational and instructional Web Site. It is still
intended to make most of the material "open sourced."

Conclusion

Remember - you get what you pay for, as the old saying goes - and none of you have paid a cent for anything I've presented! It has
all been given in Honest Good Faith. You all can take it or leave it - its absolutely your choice.

If you have a comment, complaint or problem call: 1-800-who-cares!  :)   

SL

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« Reply #2065 on: January 22, 2023, 05:05:26 PM »
A phased antenna array, for example, which is used in a patriot air defense system, can scan the beam at high speed. Without the use of mechanical moving parts. Only electronic commutation.
Does this mean that at a sufficient distance this beam can travel faster than the speed of light?
This is me in relation to your Holcomb device. Maybe we can already accelerate the speed of rotation of the virtual magnetic field faster than the speed of light, and arrange Armageddon.
Some people say that something bad can happen.

Hi kolbacict,
It's not you, many people on these forums are self center or just  keep quit due to back lash. Is this a woke forum?

Unfortunately this is the case.
I myself am like that.

Because, Holcomb has also worked out such an option. Look at all his options, especially the dual generator.
This is true ? I did not know. I don't know this device in detail at all. Only general principles.

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« Reply #2066 on: January 23, 2023, 06:43:45 AM »
This is true ? I did not know. I don't know this device in detail at all. Only general principles.

https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg565051/#msg565051

You need to carefully read, at least this forum, by the way, it is in this photo that confirmation of what I worked out in understanding the principle of operation of a synchronous generator, then put it on Holcomb's device. Just a complete coincidence.

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« Reply #2067 on: January 24, 2023, 10:19:42 PM »
I wonder if the Holcomb machine is related to the MEG, what do you think?
This is my MEG I will be testing very soon.
Tom

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« Reply #2068 on: January 25, 2023, 01:56:45 AM »
https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg565051/#msg565051

You need to carefully read, at least this forum, by the way, it is in this photo that confirmation of what I worked out in understanding the principle of operation of a synchronous generator, then put it on Holcomb's device. Just a complete coincidence.

English is not your first language, I’m sure. Pardon me if I am wrong.. I wish you would speak plainly. Are you saying that you have been able to duplicate/ achieve the results that Dr. Holcomb has described in his patents and demonstrated in video?
I’ve read through this forum, and to date , there is noone who will state unequivocally that this new “breakthrough technology to the world” works..
There are several who have not hesitated to state otherwise.
Thanks.
LL


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #2069 on: January 25, 2023, 06:34:44 AM »
English is not your first language, I’m sure. Pardon me if I am wrong.. I wish you would speak plainly. Are you saying that you have been able to duplicate/ achieve the results that Dr. Holcomb has described in his patents and demonstrated in video?
I’ve read through this forum, and to date , there is noone who will state unequivocally that this new “breakthrough technology to the world” works..
There are several who have not hesitated to state otherwise.
Thanks.
LL

Dr. Holcomb's generator works in the same way as an electromechanical synchronous generator, with the only difference being a mechanical/solid state constant magnetic field rotation system. Do you doubt the operation of generators that provide humanity with electricity? It is not by chance that I give such a direction for understanding: you need to understand in detail how mechanical power generators work, with laying the wire in the stator groove. How the field is formed and how the output energy is obtained.

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/06/overunity-holcomb-energy-system.html


PS
Solid-state power generation is not new, but late since 1902, in fact it is a "closed technology".


https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/12/1902.html