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Author Topic: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world  (Read 144937 times)

Online bistander

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1500 on: November 11, 2022, 10:20:35 PM »


In a simpler form for you:

1. initial energy is "H" [amp-turn/length unit or Orsteds]

2. process is material B-H -- conversion is simply Faraday (et. al.) both ways

3. output energy is "B" [Tesla or Gauss]

4. initial energy "H" in amp-turn/cm (orsted) - output energy is "B" in Tesla (gauss)

Both quantities are 'Magnetic Energy' but use different names/nomenclature to distinguish between the two.

Once you understand B and H - H is the source and B is the resultant so to speak. Pretty simple actually, maybe too simple,
but not for most. More of a KISS thing.

How ever you decide to configure this Gain in your device is entirely up to you as your the designer. Coil/Lap turns, material, source
Voltage/Amps, pulse sequence, drivers, control processor, Rotor/Stator size/shape, etc.

A great deal of efficiency is also gained by the "floating magnetic field" (rotating or sliding). Again,
as the designer it's entirely up to you how that is deployed in your design. It's all there for your use.

Too simple - maybe, but not really! See the referenced book for details and formulas. See the EM CAE for proofs.

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Hello SL,
I apologize for putting a reply to this old post of yours, but turns out it is pertinent to a point which I wanted to address on your recent our.com post. I am not a member there although I follow it. I attempted to join years ago but was ignored. So here's a cut/paste of the subject post:
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See the attached .pdf for a brief explaination of the analytics (formulas) involved, including
a link to a good online physics calculator for iterative solving of "Faraday's Law."

Hopefully this is easy to understand for everyone and of some value!

SL


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 LinGen Technical Brief -Analytic-.pdf (217.78 kB - downloaded 13 times.)

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https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg102190;topicseen#msg102190
Reply#416

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First off, in the pdf you state H to have units of Amperes/Turns. Is this a typo?

I have some more discussion, but need to take a break and wish to see if I get your attention over here.

Thanks,
bi

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1501 on: November 11, 2022, 11:09:46 PM »
You should reapply ..forum was closed for a long time to membership
do to bots making a mess and other things !
And administrator having Zero time for such nonsense ( here it’s the same)
Always appreciate reading your thoughtful and sincere contributions!
Respectfully
Chet


Offline SolarLab

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1502 on: November 12, 2022, 01:34:00 AM »
Hello SL,
I apologize for putting a reply to this old post of yours, but turns out it is pertinent to a point which I wanted to address on your recent our.com post. I am not a member there although I follow it. I attempted to join years ago but was ignored. So here's a cut/paste of the subject post:
______
See the attached .pdf for a brief explaination of the analytics (formulas) involved, including
a link to a good online physics calculator for iterative solving of "Faraday's Law."

Hopefully this is easy to understand for everyone and of some value!

SL


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 LinGen Technical Brief -Analytic-.pdf (217.78 kB - downloaded 13 times.)

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https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg102190;topicseen#msg102190
Reply#416

________

First off, in the pdf you state H to have units of Amperes/Turns. Is this a typo?

I have some more discussion, but need to take a break and wish to see if I get your attention over here.

Thanks,
bi


"Amperes/Turns" is generic - use whatever "Units/Nomenclature" is shown on your B-H Curve graph.
Convert as required or needed. 

See the attached file which might justify my use of a "generic."





« Last Edit: November 12, 2022, 05:59:27 AM by SolarLab »

Online bistander

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1503 on: November 12, 2022, 06:52:33 AM »


"Amperes/Turns" is generic - use whatever "Units/Nomenclature" is shown on your B-H Curve graph.
Convert as required or needed.

Thanks for reply.
I don't think I've ever seen amps/turn used. Except for the old term of oersted, A/m is always used for H units in the B H curve. This article sums it nicely in my opinion.
https://www.toppr.com/guides/physics-formulas/magnetic-field-strength-formula/

I have attached two images for easy reference.

I have been trying to follow your analysis but need some help. Would you explain where the parameters used in your PDF originate. For example: 20 turns for the lap winding. It appears like 5 turns on your diagram.
Another question, about the 15 sq.in. area: This is the area of a pole face isn't it? Shouldn't it be half that (for a 2-pole machine)?
And about the magnetic circuit, you use a B value of 0.8T (arbitrary) which I assume is intended as an average uniform flux density per pole. Would not this cause severe saturation elsewhere? Like the back iron or areas referred to as 'depth below slots'.

I would appreciate your assistance in understanding here so please just don't tell me to purchase inexpensive computer equipment and learn to use the applications. I'm quite interested in your efforts, but realize my own skills and limitations. The last time I did a magnetic circuit calculation I had a slide rule and adding machine at my disposal.
bi


Offline rakarskiy

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1504 on: November 12, 2022, 07:46:39 PM »
in the figure, there is a clear error in the magnetic flux between the rods of the electromagnets. What did Holcomb mean by portraying these interactions.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1505 on: November 12, 2022, 08:03:16 PM »
I think that Holcomb thus uses the output of the lines of force from the core when closing the poles. We clearly observe this effect in the Kromrey generator, when there is a slamming and opening of the flow.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1506 on: November 12, 2022, 09:37:36 PM »
It seems as if the community here has accepted as fact that Holcomb system does indeed work? It’s interesting to note that HES has recently announced a joint venture with Astra Energy (OTC :ASRE). I noticed on the Holcomb facebook page that they also announced that they would be installing the ILPG in Zanzibar…. Once installed, I guess the debate over whether the technology works or not will end.. It’s seems unlikely that two companies would join forces to perpetuate the hoax?

https://www.facebook.com/holcombenergysystems/videos/458569023030715
Here is a link to the press release from Astra

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/10/31/2544796/0/en/Astra-Energy-Inc-Joins-with-Holcomb-Energy-Systems-LLC-to-cut-Carbon-Footprints-and-Energy-Bills-by-50.html

LL

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1507 on: November 12, 2022, 09:52:22 PM »
Thanks for reply.
I don't think I've ever seen amps/turn used. Except for the old term of oersted, A/m is always used for H units in the B H curve. This article sums it nicely in my opinion.
https://www.toppr.com/guides/physics-formulas/magnetic-field-strength-formula/

I have attached two images for easy reference.

I have been trying to follow your analysis but need some help. Would you explain where the parameters used in your PDF originate. For example: 20 turns for the lap winding. It appears like 5 turns on your diagram.
Another question, about the 15 sq.in. area: This is the area of a pole face isn't it? Shouldn't it be half that (for a 2-pole machine)?
And about the magnetic circuit, you use a B value of 0.8T (arbitrary) which I assume is intended as an average uniform flux density per pole. Would not this cause severe saturation elsewhere? Like the back iron or areas referred to as 'depth below slots'.

I would appreciate your assistance in understanding here so please just don't tell me to purchase inexpensive computer equipment and learn to use the applications. I'm quite interested in your efforts, but realize my own skills and limitations. The last time I did a magnetic circuit calculation I had a slide rule and adding machine at my disposal.
bi


bistander,

Numeric CAE allows the 3D winding coil to be either a single loop drawing representing many wires or conductors
within that single element and only needs the Turns or Number of Conductors to be given if it's stranded. 

This avoids having to draw every individual wire or conductor when using a coil winding. Makes things easier without
sacrificing accuracy.

CAE manuals explain this in great detail since, at first, it might appear confusing by representing a multi-turn coil
winding by a closed loop structure.

Amperes/Turns was used in a generic sense since Analytics has no idea about the winding coil structure and needs
the "H" units from the B-H Curve graph whereas Numerics already knows the winding coil structure, including dimensions.

The 152 in. is taken from Faraday's Law - the area of the loop. The Lap winding.
https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/faraday
https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/magnetic-dipole-moment

Sounds like you're more up on this stuff than I am so I can't comment further about uniform flux density per pole and
saturation, etc..

SL



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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1508 on: November 20, 2022, 11:41:39 AM »
If we continue to rotate our stator or rotor in which a virtual rotating magnetic field is already created.
If not cancel it at all, but, say, half of the rotation speed is created by switching, and the
other half by ordinary mechanical rotation, as in a conventional generator.
And if you do not switch  current which is coming from a constant voltage source in the primary stator for example, with a mechanical switch,
And rotate the phase rotor using another motor, but at the same time close and open the conclusions of the three windings of this rotor.Don't using power supply at all.
Frequency rotating must increase for second coil,isn't it ?
just like if we switched our mechanical switch faster.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1509 on: November 27, 2022, 01:47:07 AM »
Any news?
I'm slow but persistent.
the plan is to test the system with not more than 30 amps, 12 volts, and 30 Hz to start.
The annoying noise in the video comes from the magnet inside the coil.
Time to start the windings.
I'm in love with this project.


https://youtu.be/puIpzb0Ouj0


Ariovaldo

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1510 on: November 27, 2022, 03:46:41 PM »
I figured out how to observe and measure the rotating field in the stator.
Really cool? :)

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1511 on: December 01, 2022, 12:57:57 AM »
Latest from holcomb. Sounds like there is movement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDMjS5WO6RI

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1512 on: December 01, 2022, 01:39:31 AM »
Sounds like there is movement.

Wish they would offer a dealership license to distribute these gizmos--sure like to get my hands on one and report back here what it really is and what it really does.  After a thorough walk-thru video, I could probably give them 100 orders just from overunity.com in a week.

As for tinkering with the concept, there's still some magic there I can't put my finger on.  To me it seems like you have to have Lenz in order to put any current on the load--like the load has to have something to push against.  When you take away the Lenzing effect or otherwise divert it, the load current drops off to nothing.  I saw the same behavior with the Thane Heins Bi-Toroid Transformer.  Still skeptical at this point.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1513 on: December 01, 2022, 03:46:21 AM »

[/size]Latest from holcomb. Sounds like there is movement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDMjS5WO6RI
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Hey Jimboot,  thanks for posting but that video seems to already have been removed.  Could you comment a bit on what was in it?   Wonder why it was pulled...   too good of news ?   ::)

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1514 on: December 01, 2022, 04:17:30 AM »


Hey Jimboot,  thanks for posting but that video seems to already have been removed.  Could you comment a bit on what was in it?   Wonder why it was pulled...   too good of news ?   ::)
Sorry probably pulled because I let them know about a glaring Typo. Reuploaded here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQX9vbmqiC8