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Author Topic: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world  (Read 119288 times)

Offline onepower

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1170 on: August 01, 2022, 05:25:07 PM »
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1. What is the source of  initial energy used by the Holcomb system/device ?
2. How that energy is extracted and  converted to energy  at output of Holcomb system/ device.?
3. Is initial energy used by  Holcomb  system/device  higher than its output energy or reverse  and why?

This is a common misconception but energy is not something it is a condition of something and the condition is motion.

For example, if we had ten cubic meters of hydrogen gas some might say it only has X energy as heat when we burn it. However this is not the total available energy due to the external conditions. We could use the lighter than air hydrogen gas to lift a mass 30 km from the ground, burn the hydrogen retaining the heat in the mass, then generate even more heat from a propeller driven friction device as it falls all the way back to the ground. Thus the total energy is the heat of combustion stored in the mass and the heat generated by the work in falling 30 km.

Which begs the question... where did the supposedly extra energy come from?.

There is no extra energy per say and we simply utilized more of the potential ways in which we could transform more energy within the open system. You see most pretend everything operates in closed systems however as I have just shown this is not the case. Since energy is a condition as motion in an open system we should look beyond simple conversions.

Thus what your asking is a loaded question with a presumption built into it. Your fallacy was that you implied the initial energy was the only energy present in a closed system to be converted into the resulting energy. We know this is not true because Holcomb has claimed his device generates extra energy from another energy source relating to the steel cores and electron spin.

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AC

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1171 on: August 01, 2022, 06:24:12 PM »
@AC

I find your analysis and suggests interesting. . . .  To take it one small step further is that in your hypothetical example of using the "hydrogen gas" to lift a mass to 30 km is that at that altitude the gas SHOULD be fairly pressurized so perhaps releasing that pressure through a turbine as it is burnt would harvest even abit MORE energy. . .

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1172 on: August 01, 2022, 06:54:10 PM »

Thank you for your response dear rakarskiy.
I assume you expected more precise questions.

1. What is the source of  initial energy used by the Holcomb system/device ?
2. How that energy is extracted and  converted to energy  at output of Holcomb system/ device.?
3. Is initial energy used by  Holcomb  system/device  higher than its output energy or reverse  and why?

Please describe entire process starting from initial energy in the  Holcomb  system/device .
note: wording "Holcomb  system/device"  should be understood as system and/or device .
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Answer:
By USA Department of Energy - US Energy Administration Information
The spinning of the electrons around the nucleus of an atom creates a tiny magnetic field.
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/electricity/magnets-and-electricity.php

Permanent magnets do have potential energy, stored in their magnetic field.
That energy can be compared to the potential energy of some compressed spring.
Once "spring" is released you need to do work to reload it. ( - repositioning the magnets, back)
https://physics.
and that is why "permanent magnet motor" stops sooner or later.
note: "permanent magnet motor" should be understood as no external energy rotating device

magnetic force does not do work.!!!!
Some Russians may also try to understand a very interesting and helpful explanation for American kids - high schoolers ( link below )
- and by that it should be also easy for some audience here I assume.
https://van.physics.illinois.edu/
Please provide any scientifically recognized literature conforming that Overunity devices exists and its examples.



Wesley


stivep,
Some great research (web snippets) - however:

Offline stivep

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1173 on: August 01, 2022, 07:24:44 PM »
Holcomb has claimed his device generates extra energy from another energy source relating to the "steel cores and electron spin process"
Regards
AC
Utilization of  given fixed amount of energy available from the source even in the most efficient way,  sooner or later dissipates  all of it.
example: car gasoline tank, will at some point be empty.
Can you explain,  the "steel cores and electron spin process" in Holcomb device, e.g based on their patent, (if there is any patent explaining it)
Please provide me with  Holcomb patent number explaining this process.

Wesley

 

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1174 on: August 01, 2022, 07:49:06 PM »
Utilization of  given fixed amount of energy available from the source even in the most efficient way,  sooner or later dissipates  all of it.
example: car gasoline tank, will at some point be empty.
Can you explain,  the "steel cores and electron spin process" in Holcomb device, e.g based on their patent, (if there is any patent explaining it)
Please provide me with  Holcomb patent number explaining this process.

Wesley

 


All explained in this video:

https://holcombenergysystems.com/video/  (including the "electron spin" source 'proof discovery' information)

bottom video on the page "The HES Mechanism" [there's also a long and a short version - view both if need be]

Please direct any further questions regarding this technology and how it works to Dr. Holcomb himself or his in-house staff.
You may also contact the group that 'imaged the magnetic process' (this information is found in the video).

Thanks.

Patents and other information are found here:

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg99432#msg99432



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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1175 on: August 01, 2022, 08:33:29 PM »
Hi All,

The same question of how can there be more output than input for electrical generation to occur in the Holcomb system.
There has been many good examples and graphs of how the electrical steel works.


This is the way I see how the Holcomb Systems are valid OU systems.

I have added three sketches that hopefully will help to see how electrical energy is generated.
It is not a matter of electrons increasing because it is a mechanical to electrical conversion of the process.
So the operation of the generator in the area of the electrical steel graph produces more electrical
energy than the mechanical energy used in the electrical steel.

Drawing One:
Now if a person has a hand crank that he is turning a small generator, the generator can power a light bulb that generates photons that lights up the room for as long as the man is turning the crank.  Where does the electrical energy come from?  Do the magnets in the generator supply the electrical energy that can be produced forever in this system?  Does the copper wire have enough electrons in it to operate the system forever?  Does the arm of the man have the electron flow that will operate the system forever? 
The hydro dan has water performing the torque to turn the electric generators.  Do the electrons come from the water?
Both in the hand cranked generator and the hydro dam generates the electrons in the output of the generator the same way.
Asking the free energy people where the electrons come from for their generators when the person asking the question does not have a good idea where the electrical power comes from for today’s electrical power generation. This is not a fair question to ask them, as I see it, because we all use devices that we do not have a full functional understanding of how they work.  But I will try to explain it anyway for you.  I want to tell you the theory of how and where the energies that operate my generator come from and how they are used in the generator.
There are two energies used in the Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator.   The power of flux from the permanent magnet is the torque that pushes the electrons down the wire of the generator.  The other is the “zero-point energy” that backfills the wire with electrical energy so that it can later be pushed to the load and used in the circuits load.  Remember that this open system energy can have other names to it.
The generators energy comes from the atomic level where the atom has electrons moving all the time in them.  For as long as atoms have existed, electrons have been moving in them.  As long as the atoms exist, electron movement will occur.  So, this new technology is a way to use this energy in a way that can produce electrical energy that can be used in unlimited devices.  To do this in a practical way, we need to have this action in a larger scale that makes it easier to access.  This is done by making devices that cause the electrons to move in the same direction.  This is done in producing permanent magnets and electromagnets.  The rare earth permanent magnets today will last longer than a lifetime if handled properly.  When a magnetic field moves by a conductive metal, an electric current is developed in the metal.  That metal can be shaped into a device like a coil of wire to better utilize that current flow so that it can perform work. 

Drawing Two:
This drawing helps me to understand how a generator takes power out of the zero-point energy and places it into a wire.  One could argue that it is not zero-point energy but static charges placed into the wire.  Either way, it is an open-source system.  Either way, it does not matter where the open-source energy comes from as long as the output electrical energy is larger than the input energy producing an over unity generator.  The open-source energy may make a difference whether the generator can be used in space or not.  For now, I am only interested in it working on earth where people live and work. 
The next generator drawing does a better job of showing the zero-point energy being everywhere.  It makes more sense than seeing electrical energy coming from an arm in a hand crank generator or from water in a hydro-dam.

Drawing Three:
This drawing is another way of looking at how zero-point energy functions in electric generators.  As flux moves across wires, electrical energy is fed to the load.  The zero-point energy that is all around us, backfills into the copper wire at the speed of light.  The input power needed to operate a generator is used to move the flux across the wires.  It then goes to the load in order to perform work.
Now zero-point energy or any of the other names given to it has been talked about for thousands of years as an energy all around us.  It has only been the last few hundred years that it has been ignored because most of the instrumentation for electrical and magnetic forces do not detect zero-point energy.  So many people thought it was fiction.  But to my understanding, today there have been tests done in laboratories that prove that there is zero-point energy all around us everywhere.  So now that we know that energy is there, we can understand how generators get their energy from now.  When the permanent magnets in the generator is moving the electrons through the copper wire in the generator, the void of electrons in the copper wires are quickly replaced from this energy source.  So, our electrical energy always has been coming from this zero-point energy source.  So, I am not using an energy source that we have not been using for years already.  This new technology is a way to get larger electron movement from a smaller electron movement.  Now there are currently transistors, FETs, vacuum tubes, and other devices that already control larger electron flow with smaller electron movements.  What I am doing different is that I use the smaller electrical energy to create a magnetic field that controls flow of several magnetic flux flows.  When you add up all these flux flows that are being changed, it is a lot more than the magnetic field that caused them.  These changed flows are then routed through coils that generate electrical energy.  The collective electrical energy is much greater than the electrical energy to power the switching electromagnet in the generator.  You can use a small percentage of the electrical energy to drive one switching coil and that action will cause electrical energy generation that is several times that control energy.  That additional energy can be used to supply energy to several other devices.  This is an open over-unity system. This is an open free-energy system.  This is a self-running system.  The following two drawings are designed to make it easier to understand how the two modes of the new technology operate.
A closer look at the energy that is all around us that has many names to it is a very interesting study.  What is so amazing is not only is it unseen but conventional electrical engineering equipment cannot be used to measure it.    There are several non-conventional devices that access this energy as an open-source system.  After researching many papers on this energy, I have a lot more confidence in this open-source energy generator design.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1176 on: August 01, 2022, 08:56:04 PM »
Interesting waveform observations on Holcomb's machine. I categorize them as shown on the slide. The second slide is current waveforms on electromagnets with different inductance of the smoothing choke in my installation.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1177 on: August 01, 2022, 09:25:14 PM »
Utilization of  given fixed amount of energy available from the source even in the most efficient way,  sooner or later dissipates  all of it.
example: car gasoline tank, will at some point be empty.
Can you explain,  the "steel cores and electron spin process" in Holcomb device, e.g based on their patent, (if there is any patent explaining it)
Please provide me with  Holcomb patent number explaining this process.

Wesley

 


https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg569063/#msg569063


Offline onepower

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1178 on: August 01, 2022, 09:28:15 PM »
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I find your analysis and suggests interesting. . . .  To take it one small step further is that in your hypothetical
example of using the "hydrogen gas" to lift a mass to 30 km is that at that altitude the gas SHOULD be fairly
pressurized so perhaps releasing that pressure through a turbine as it is burnt would harvest even abit MORE energy. . .

Indeed, the more we look at a problem with an open mind and consider all the possible external
conditions involved the more practical solutions we can find.

I believe it was Faraday who came up with the notion of lines of force and closed systems.
However as Faraday implied this was only so we can simplify the extraordinary number of calculations
involved and was never meant to be taken literally. However many did take what was said literally and
made the mistake in thinking all systems are closed when in fact none are.

For example, all material stuff including us is under a magnetic influence in some way because they
are immersed in Earths magnetic field. We can pretend it doesn't exist or matter but in fact it does
exist as a matter of fact. We and everything we know on Earth are immersed in electric and magnetic
fields as well as cosmic radiation and high energy particles traveling through the Earth as if it wasn't
even there. These are the fact we know and it only gets stranger from there, lol.

Regards
AC


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1179 on: August 01, 2022, 09:40:54 PM »
I just fried 3 PLC output I/O in the SLC.
Looking to install an IGBT driver photocoupler.
I hope next week I can start to test.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1180 on: August 01, 2022, 10:50:10 PM »
Interesting waveform observations on Holcomb's machine.
I categorize them as shown on the slide. The second slide is current waveforms on electromagnets with different inductance of the smoothing choke in my installation.

Thank you for  your pictures.
You still didn't respond to :Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1169 on: Today at 03:41:23 PM »
Should I understand that you don't know the answer to this set of question ?
Wesley

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1181 on: August 01, 2022, 11:23:35 PM »
This is the way I see how the Holcomb Systems are valid OU systems.
There is no OU device, and never was,
Please provide any scientifically recognized literature conforming that Overunity devices exists and its examples.

Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator.   
Please provide any scientifically recognized literature describing
"Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator." its processes and its function.   


The other is the “zero-point energy” that backfills the wire with electrical energy

Please explain from physics standpoint how Zero point energy  backfills the wire with electrical energy
based on description  here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-point_energy

Dictionary:"backfill"
1. To  refill  (an  excavated  area)  with  such  material.
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/backfills




Wesley

Ps: talking about Zero Point energy.
Below you have my lab testing chamber at 4K ( Kelvin)
Tested to much below that  1.6 Kelvin

Offline SolarLab

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1182 on: August 01, 2022, 11:41:11 PM »
 So much P A N I C    :'(

  Who would have ever thought!   :)


    ::)

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1183 on: August 02, 2022, 12:00:47 AM »
Received below response from DNV on the message I send if they can confirm if the DNV certificate is genuine (forwarded the DNV as an attachment in reponse but as yet received no further reply)

From: White, Lisa
Sent: 01 August 2022 16:45
To: xxxx@hotmail.com
Subject: FW: CONTACT VIA WEBSITE - Business Assurance

Good Morning Andre:

I hope you had a wonderful weekend.   I went into our system and put Holcomb Scientific Research Ltd. to locate the certificate but was not able to pull it up.    Do you have the certificate number?  Address to the Headquarters? 

Lisa White
Client Experience Coordinator
Western Territory
USA & Canada
DNV  – Business Assurance

Direct 281-396-1409
Cell -346-550-2490
www.dnvcert.com

Please note that my email address has changed to Lisa.White@dnv.com

From: DNV, Verifications <verifications@dnv.com>
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2022 4:42 AM
To: White, Lisa <Lisa.White@dnv.com>
Subject: FW: CONTACT VIA WEBSITE - Business Assurance

Goodmorning Lisa,

See message below, can you contact/respond to Andre XXXX?



In addition I found below link with access to various files from Holcomb

https://holcombenergysystems.com/wp-content/uploads/

Of particular interest maybe the 2 versions of the DNV Verification Statement which are filed under 2019/08 and 2020/08


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1184 on: August 02, 2022, 12:24:20 AM »
Hi,

I am currently working on a prototype build of the
"Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator"

I have only built one of the 16 fins that will go into the generator.
I currently have six of the eight pickup coils outputting electrical signal
from one switching coil.  It currently is not OU.
But,  I have several modifications to make to the prototype.
I have only been testing it at 60 Hz.  I believe I will have to operate
it at a higher frequency. 

But I believe that the chain reaction that I  show in the attached file
is a new way of utilizing the power of permanent magnets into
an OU generator.  Until I finish the prototype and feed part of the
output into the input of the generator so that it is self-running, I have nothing!

In the mean time Holcomb's devices is the best OU devices we have going.

Lunkster