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Author Topic: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world  (Read 142328 times)

Offline stivep

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1155 on: July 31, 2022, 12:57:12 AM »
go and ask the inventor and stop getting us to answer your questions. We’re building here
I'm not asking you Jimboot .
Question was not directed to you nor Solarlab.
and you  didn't provide any explanation  to the subject in question.
derailing original statement of rakarskiy.

I formulated four points question based on his statement
Holcomb claims everything is true, I claim that it is exactly so!
Question:
What the energy comes from.?
Please explain energy conversion process.
 in this format:
1. - initial energy form and its source.

2. - in few words describe process of conversion

3. - energy form at OUTPUT of the device.

4. -  please compare the initial energy used vs energy at output in units. 



»example of expected answer in given format is here:
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« Reply #3730 on: Today at 12:42:11 AM »
Wesley

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1156 on: July 31, 2022, 01:16:57 AM »
I'm not asking you Jimboot .
Question was not directed to you nor Solarlab.
and you  didn't provide any explanation  to the subject in question.
derailing original statement of rakarskiy.

I formulated four points question based on his statementQuestion:
What the energy comes from.?
Please explain energy conversion process.
 in this format:
1. - initial energy form and its source.

2. - in few words describe process of conversion

3. - energy form at OUTPUT of the device.

4. -  please compare the initial energy used vs energy at output in units. 



»example of expected answer in given format is here:
Re: Wesley's  Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum

« Reply #3730 on: Today at 12:42:11 AM »
Wesley


In a simpler form for you:

1. initial energy is "H" [amp-turn/length unit or Orsteds]

2. process is material B-H -- conversion is simply Faraday (et. al.) both ways

3. output energy is "B" [Tesla or Gauss]

4. initial energy "H" in amp-turn/cm (orsted) - output energy is "B" in Tesla (gauss)

Both quantities are 'Magnetic Energy' but use different names/nomenclature to distinguish between the two.

Once you understand B and H - H is the source and B is the resultant so to speak. Pretty simple actually, maybe too simple,
but not for most. More of a KISS thing.

How ever you decide to configure this Gain in your device is entirely up to you as your the designer. Coil/Lap turns, material, source
Voltage/Amps, pulse sequence, drivers, control processor, Rotor/Stator size/shape, etc.

A great deal of efficiency is also gained by the "floating magnetic field" (rotating or sliding). Again,
as the designer it's entirely up to you how that is deployed in your design. It's all there for your use.

Too simple - maybe, but not really! See the referenced book for details and formulas. See the EM CAE for proofs.


You still haven't answered my "base line setting" question:

HAVE YOU EVER USED ANY OF THE FULL 3D EM CAE TOOLS TO ANALYZE OR DESIGN ELECTROMAGNETIC DEVICES?

Without a simple, straight forward, answer I CAN NOT HELP YOU. Sorry!

You will have to direct your comments and questions elsewhere. (no need - I already know the answer based on your questions)

Also NOTE: NEW RULE - Wesley's RULES don't apply here!



Offline kolbacict

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1157 on: July 31, 2022, 06:54:10 AM »
Well, at first I supposed that this energy is taken from the virtual rotation of the field.
Because in a mechanical electric generator it is necessary to expend mechanical energy
 to rotate the rotor. And here it goes, as if for free. There were even myself thoughts on
how to improve this process. But you ignored it. But now you are claiming that the excess
energy comes from amplification in the steel... All known transformers are made of steel.
But there is no OU in them.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1158 on: July 31, 2022, 07:24:09 AM »
Question:
What the energy comes from.?
Please explain energy conversion process.
 in this format:
1. - initial energy form and its source.

2. - in few words describe process of conversion

3. - energy form at OUTPUT of the device.

4. -  please compare the initial energy used vs energy at output in units. 

Wesley

[1 - the original form of energy and its source.]

You can’t say better than a definition from higher physics: Energy (ancient Greek ἐνέργεια - action, activity, force, power) is a scalar physical quantity, which is a single measure of various forms of motion and interaction of matter, a measure of the force of the transition of the movement of matter from one form to another , with the aim of eliminating in time the real forms and types of matter in the Universe, in order to bring it to a state of rest. The introduction of the concept of energy is convenient because if a physical system is closed, then its energy is stored in this system for the time during which the system will be closed. This statement is called the law of conservation of energy.

From a fundamental point of view, energy is one of three (along with momentum and angular momentum) additive integrals of motion (i.e., quantities that are conserved in time) associated, according to Noether’s theorem, with the homogeneity of time, i.e., the independence of the laws describing movement, from time to time
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(from my point of view, by the term Energy I mean a system of forces and velocities that are in a special state of potential difference, which tends to balance)

Energy source, too fundamental a term. For example, a magnet emits a magnetic field with no apparent source of input energy. The launch of a magnetic field in a piece of material that makes up a magnet is a powerful electromagnetic pulse (there is a system for launching a permanent magnet from a permanent magnet). With the existence of a magnet as a source of a magnetic field, there is no supply of an external electromagnetic pulse or an external magnetic field. Counter question: what is the source of the magnetic field of a permanent magnet? I believe that there is another non-material system that controls the "energies" of our "material world", recently this system is called the "torsion field", although the field here is an incorrect interpretation.

[2. - describe the transformation process in a few words]

One Speed breeds potential speed. Speed (for doing work) absorbs potential speed.

[3. is the form of energy at the OUTPUT of the device.]

Which one do you like: thermal, kinetic or electromagnetic - the other types are not interesting for OverUnity devices!

[4. - please compare the initial energy input with the output energy in units.]

Why reinvent the wheel, in physics there is a universal unit of measurement Joule. I prefer Watts as a unit of power.
To compare, you need to have accurate power data, at the input and output, for the same period of time.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1159 on: July 31, 2022, 07:33:09 AM »
Well, at first I supposed that this energy is taken from the virtual rotation of the field.
Because in a mechanical electric generator it is necessary to expend mechanical energy
 to rotate the rotor. And here it goes, as if for free. There were even myself thoughts on
how to improve this process. But you ignored it. But now you are claiming that the excess
energy comes from amplification in the steel... All known transformers are made of steel.
But there is no OU in them.


Correct, the amplification comes from the "steel."  The B-H curve of the material (steel as you call it)
tells you how much amplification is theoretically available.

Note that the Holcomb devices are not transformers or motors or conventional generators. These
devices have little or nothing to do with Holcombs technology other than magnetics.

Study the losses in conventional transformers and generators and you will immediately realize
their inefficiencies are huge; that's why they are generally much less than 1.

As stated above - the "floating magnetic field" nearly eliminates these conventional inefficiencies.

There are several processes as explained in the technical details and patents. Read them.

This has been covered in this thread many times. Go back an read some of the stuff for comprehension.

"The wheels of this bus go round-and-round, round-and-round. The wheels of the bus go round-and-round!"

What ever... If this is a hard concept for you to figure out - well, what ever.



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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1160 on: July 31, 2022, 07:36:10 AM »
Well, at first I supposed that this energy is taken from the virtual rotation of the field.
Because in a mechanical electric generator it is necessary to expend mechanical energy
 to rotate the rotor. And here it goes, as if for free. There were even myself thoughts on
how to improve this process. But you ignored it. But now you are claiming that the excess
energy comes from amplification in the steel... All known transformers are made of steel.
But there is no OU in them.

How does a TRANSFORMER work?
The second question is how does the GENERATOR work?
Why is the voltage regulation at the input of the transformer produced by the control of the voltage at the input to the primary winding?
How is the voltage regulation for the circuit, where the source is the phase of the generator with a field source from permanent magnets?

Solve a simple problem:
Determine the EMF of the generator phase to which a load of 1 kW is connected, while the voltage at the generator terminals is 220 volts.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1161 on: July 31, 2022, 08:50:44 AM »
Quote
How is the voltage regulation for the circuit, where the source is the phase of the generator with a field source from permanent magnets?
In ordinary   nohow. Only by changing the number of revolutions per minute.
But now they've probably come up with something to do it differently.

p.s. But none of you knows how a wind turbine generator works. :-[
But I know.  8)  I was explained on the forum valvol.   8)
How is it that at different shaft revolutions it has the same frequency at the output.This generator does not have a rotor with permanent magnets, but has a three-phase winding, similar to that on my selsin. Which is powered by an inverter with a variable frequency.  But this is offtopic.
« Last Edit: July 31, 2022, 10:56:09 AM by kolbacict »

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1162 on: July 31, 2022, 09:25:44 AM »
In ordinary   nohow. Only by changing the number of revolutions per minute.

Then the generation frequency will change, let's say we need a name of 50 Hz.

PS

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p.s. But none of you knows how a wind turbine generator works. :-[
But I know. 8) I was explained on the forum valvol. 8)

Volodin is a very competent electrical engineer, but he can see that he cannot do such a simple task as a transgenerator. The standards of circuit solutions are to blame for everything.
I also did not understand everything right away, for this I needed wild altruism on a rake.
« Last Edit: July 31, 2022, 12:41:47 PM by rakarskiy »

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1163 on: July 31, 2022, 09:39:12 AM »
Then the generation frequency will change,
Quite right. I just don't know this device. I don't know yet... ;)

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1164 on: July 31, 2022, 03:40:32 PM »
Here is a video of a Blogger from Kharkov (Ukraine), a good video about a rotating field, if it helps you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSSIV-H58e4&t=3s

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1165 on: July 31, 2022, 04:03:09 PM »
Holcomb claims everything is true, I claim that it is exactly so!
Друже, я тут не для того, щоб грати в ігри  і  створювати тобі  дискомфорт.
Джимболт - 'низька амплітуда гармонійного продукту'  .
Сoларлаб -  поводиться як школяр, який сердиться на свого професора..
Україна   – моя родинна кров, з батьківського коріння включаючи українське прізвище..
Я вивчав російську мову в США, але українська мова була поруч зі мною/навколо мене в дитинстві.
Моя зірка Давида , має міцну синю/жовту та білу/червону основу.

__________________________________________________________________________

що стосуються даного предмета Я сформулював чотири пункти питань, мені була цікава відповідь,
що допомагає іншим краще зрозуміти, що ви особисто пишете. .
Я не намагаюся тут блищати. 
Тож залиште свою гордість в стороні .. я критикую, не маючи наміру принизити вас, окрім як наполягати на прогресі

Тому, будь ласка, дайте відповідь на тему, про яку йде мова, в очікуваному форматі та однією з мов, які я можу зрозуміти.
Щоб краще зрозуміти, як сформулювати свої відповіді, я навів вам приклад 
тут:

Re: Wesley's  Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum

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Wesley

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1166 on: July 31, 2022, 08:14:27 PM »

Сoларлаб -  поводиться як школяр, який сердиться на свого професора..



Сoларлаб -  поводиться як школяр, який сердиться на свого професора..
((Solarlab - behaves like a schoolboy who is angry with his professor..))

If you are assuming you are the resident Professor, what eactly have you taught us here?

More like - if you were one of my (solarlabs) students you would HAVE BEEN EXPELLED long ago for dissruption,
deception, trolling, not doing the required work and lying!



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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1167 on: August 01, 2022, 03:23:26 AM »

Thanks for the link to this video. Good video except no sound.  Anyone else get sound on it?  Vimeo seems to have problems for some browsers. 
Seeing all the extensive work they are putting into this project certainly lends credence to this being a real and valid free energy device.
Has anyone playing this video have sound?  I haven't seen this question answered although I could have missed it but it seems to me that the video(s) were uploaded without sound.
I could be wrong but I have downloaded the video(s) and played them back on both Linux and Windows OS's using various players and browsers and none them have audio....
On the bright side there is plenty of information on those videos without sound regarding the building process of the HES generators whether big or small, you can clearly see that the construction of these and all the electronics and scope shots are not your typical build as in a mix of "in hand wires" going into the 3 phase motionless rotor the "In Between core with heavier gauge wire then the outer core with bolted down laminations  with a ton of smaller wires and How many in hand wires on the coils and different pole arrangements compared to a normal generator!!!  Wow, alot of work there.  Can this make it to mass production?  Seems pretty intensive.
Anywaysjust curious if anyone has sound on the video's.
Regards,Paul Gauthier



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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1168 on: August 01, 2022, 06:53:09 AM »

Тому, будь ласка, дайте відповідь на тему, про яку йде мова, в очікуваному форматі та однією з мов, які я можу зрозуміти.
Щоб краще зрозуміти, як сформулювати свої відповіді, я навів вам приклад 
тут:

Wesley

Я вважаю, що твої запитання я відповів! Питання в розумінні того, що я вклав у відповіді, лежить в освіті та розумінні сутності питань, що розглядаються. Я вважаю що наука, це пізнання та вдосконалення своїх знань.
Грати в твої ігри точно не буду.

I think I answered your questions! The question of understanding what I lay in the answers lies in education and understanding the essence of the issues under consideration. I believe that science is knowledge and improving one's knowledge.
I definitely won't be playing your games.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1169 on: August 01, 2022, 03:41:23 PM »

Holcomb claims everything is true, I claim that it is exactly so!
I think I answered your questions!
Thank you for your response dear rakarskiy.
I assume you expected more precise questions.

1. What is the source of  initial energy used by the Holcomb system/device ?
2. How that energy is extracted and  converted to energy  at output of Holcomb system/ device.?
3. Is initial energy used by  Holcomb  system/device  higher than its output energy or reverse  and why?

Please describe entire process starting from initial energy in the  Holcomb  system/device .
note: wording "Holcomb  system/device"  should be understood as system and/or device .
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question: what is the source of the magnetic field of a permanent magnet?
I believe that there is another non-material system that controls the "energies" of our "material world",
recently this system is called the "torsion field", although the field here is an incorrect interpretation.
One Speed breeds potential speed. Speed(for doing work) absorbs potential speed.
Answer:
By USA Department of Energy - US Energy Administration Information
The spinning of the electrons around the nucleus of an atom creates a tiny magnetic field.
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/electricity/magnets-and-electricity.php

Permanent magnets do have potential energy, stored in their magnetic field.
That energy can be compared to the potential energy of some compressed spring.
Once "spring" is released you need to do work to reload it. ( - repositioning the magnets, back)
https://physics.
and that is why "permanent magnet motor" stops sooner or later.
note: "permanent magnet motor" should be understood as no external energy rotating device

magnetic force does not do work.!!!!
Some Russians may also try to understand a very interesting and helpful explanation for American kids - high schoolers ( link below )
- and by that it should be also easy for some audience here I assume.
https://van.physics.illinois.edu/

Which one do you like: // for OverUnity devices!
Please provide any scientifically recognized literature conforming that Overunity devices exists and its examples.



Wesley