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rakarskiy

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1050 on: July 20, 2022, 03:56:24 PM »
Lenz only describes the direction of Ampere. 
What is the reason that you wrote dE?

https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg568829/#msg568829

Because these values are synchronous: Bm = E

Lenz cannot describe the direction of Ampère's force, Lenz is a vortex vector. Everything will be chewed in detail in my book, already at the stage of completion.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1051 on: July 20, 2022, 05:42:10 PM »
https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg568829/#msg568829

Because these values are synchronous: Bm = E

Lenz cannot describe the direction of Ampère's force, Lenz is a vortex vector. Everything will be chewed in detail in my book, already at the stage of completion.
Normally induced EMF is proportional to the derivative (changing) of B, or E=d(B.s)/dt=dФ/dt, but this is the flux on the inside a circuit only. 
The minus in Faraday's law, EMF=-dФ/dt is Lenz's law, it's only an indicator, the field created by current is according Ampere's law when current and B it produces are proportional. 

"In turn, the induced current causes a magnetic field according to Ampere's Law, which itself has a flux through the closed loop. According to Lenz's law, the direction of the induced current and resultantly the induced magnetic flux opposes the original magnetic flux." 

Or are you saying EMF can create Bm? 
I'm not following it, yet. Looking forward to the theoretical results of your study.

What is, according to your research the most important error in EM theory that needs correction, so OU is made possible?
interesting patent that you posted on your site 
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/f1/73/db/bddc31a19a8100/CA2357550A1.pdf

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1052 on: July 20, 2022, 06:34:36 PM »
Normally induced EMF is proportional to the derivative (changing) of B, or E=d(B.s)/dt=dФ/dt, but this is the flux on the inside a circuit only. 
The minus in Faraday's law, EMF=-dФ/dt is Lenz's law, it's only an indicator, the field created by current is according Ampere's law when current and B it produces are proportional.


The question arises, you connect the wire to the battery terminals, how should the formula be written? exactly as it is written in all textbooks. Only (dФ) needs to be correctly deciphered.


https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/p/ampere-force.html

SolarLab

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1053 on: July 20, 2022, 08:55:32 PM »

As you all re-enter the Lenz Law discussion circle for the umpteenth time, review this 16 Apr 22 post
from OUR (reposted below) while keeping in mind all these Laws are related and interact in one form
or another.

Also, review the LinGen Diagram posted earlier while paying attention to the Lap Coil Winding
physical layout. This might help in visualizing the Lenz action, or lack thereof. (attached below)

------   https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98564#msg98564   -------

Sorry for the long post but this is very important towards understanding (analyzing) Holcomb's and other devices.

Two Electromagnetic Equations - Yield the Same Results

Of the four laws of electromagnetism, let's consider only Lorentz Force and Faraday's Law of induction.
They both arrive at the same answer; but their mechanisms are different. Some may say Faraday's Law
is associated with Lenz whereas Lorentz is not - Faraday deals with an alternating magnetic field - Lorentz
deals with a sweeping (traveling) magnetic field.

Review the earlier "Asymetric transformers - AAbramovich Discussions" section "Equivalence of induction
according to Lorentz and Faraday" and the information below. Note that the differences between Faraday
and Lorentz were never really resolved - history - seems Einstein got in the way - since he couldn't solve
it, he started a new branch of physics - Special Relativity - and further attempts at a resolution faded. Lots
of reading but worth it!

Four Laws of Electromagnetism

https://www.motioncontroltips.com/four-laws-of-electromagnetism-you-should-know/

https://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/physics/panvini/p110a/lect37c.html

Why Faraday's law and Lorentz force create the same electromotive force?

The Faraday’s induction formula (flux rule) of electromagnetism says that the electromotive force (emf)
created in a conducting circuit is equal to the rate at which the magnetic flux through the conducting circuit
changes as it is written on a high school text in physics. This emf can be calculated in two ways: either by
using the Lorentz force formula and calculating the force acting on electrons in the moving conductor of the
circuit; or via one of Maxwell’s equations (Faraday’s law) and calculating the change of the magnetic flux
penetrating through the circuit. The Lorentz force formula and Maxwell’s equations are two distinct physical
laws, yet the two methods yield the same results.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/09/170926085958.htm

Includes a bit more "history" - Faraday's Law of Induction:

https://www.dataforth.com/faradays-law-of-induction.aspx

... "This is not exactly what Faraday described but was called Faraday’s Law by Oliver Heaviside. It does not
include the movement emf; that is the force effect Faraday found. The magnetic force is called Lorentz force.
Current flowing in a wire in the presence of a magnetic field will experience a force and move if not restrained.
In this case, magnetic energy is released kinetically." ...
" The previous mention of the relative motion of magnetic field and electric circuit has had considerable thought
by many, well-known physicists. Richard Feynman stated: (1)

So the "flux rule" that the emf in a circuit is equal to the rate of change of the magnetic flux through the circuit
applies whether the flux changes because the field changes or because the circuit moves (or both) …

Yet in our explanation for the rule we have used two completely distinct laws for the two cases Faraday's Law
equation (both vector quantities: -v x B) for "circuit moves" and Faraday's Law equation (vector: V x E = -dtB)
for "field changes".

We know of no other place in physics where such a simple and accurate general principle requires for its real
understanding an analysis in terms of two different phenomena.

Richard P. Feynman, The Feynman Lectures on Physics
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Lorentz Force 3d view animation video (Lorentz is near the end, 6:26)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ9YRWYv2cY

------------- Food for thought ---------

Professor Eric Laithwaite: Magnetic River 1975
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI_HFnNTfyU

Professor Eric Laithwaite: Motors Big and Small - 1971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWiYsRi2Dss


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SolarLab

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1055 on: July 21, 2022, 12:24:01 AM »
Sometimes old theories don't explain everything.

https://www.freeenergyplanet.biz/energy-from-vacuum/the-source-charge-problem.html
https://www.freeenergyplanet.biz/energy-from-vacuum/em-waves-imply-curved-spacetime.html

Feb2006,

Well, they may not describe everything but we've done pretty good, and gone a long way, with them so far!

Always open to new theories and ideas but the source should also be considered as well - for example:

From the "Free Energy Planet" - About Me and My Blog

I am Jeff Sheets and I own and write for Free Energy Planet. It all started when I was still studying in college,
way back when blogging was still some online journal to write your rants and raves about (think it's still that
way, only more refined). I created blogs whenever I felt like and deleted them the moment I became bored.
Free Energy Planet is my personal blog so I write articles that mostly interests me, like blogging, writing, life,
society and culture, books, and personal development. I'm also an opinionated person so you would definitely
find me sharing my point of views here, there, and everywhere in this blog.
Please contact me if you have any questions, or if you just wanna talk or fight or something.

Think I'll pass on this "Free Energy Panet" blog for now!  - Lots of references to paid books, etc. but no
real "meat" so to speak; unless there is something burried in the blog somewhere.

Paul Dirac (Dirac equation - Nobel Prize in Physics 1933) might also be a good read with respect
to "The Source Charge Problem."
SL


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1056 on: July 21, 2022, 01:22:21 AM »

I only meant those two pages, not the whole blog,
“Bearden:Energy from the vacuum - concepts and principles” are hard to get hold of nowadays.


And the pdf I downloaded as a preview from the authors webpage it's not the whole book but
all the theoretical stuff.

The Dirac equation it's the Matter part of “The theory of everything (so far)”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNVQfWC_evg

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rakarskiy

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1057 on: July 21, 2022, 07:59:52 AM »
As you all re-enter the Lenz Law discussion circle for the umpteenth time, review this 16 Apr 22 post
from OUR (reposted below) while keeping in mind all these Laws are related and interact in one form
or another.

https://www.dataforth.com/faradays-law-of-induction.aspx

.............................................................

SL

I am just considering issues that are considered to be unshakable, but you are at an impasse with them. I refine them and add details that the design specifically missed.

For example, there are other views with which I also partly agree!

https://www.veritasium.com/videos/2021/11/19/the-big-misconception-about-electricity


By the way, the force of magnetic attraction cannot possibly be the Lorentz force. If you look at it, this is the derivative of the Ampere force in reverse order. All magnetism is compared with electromagnetism. Yes, they have an interaction, but this dadeko is not the same. Just answer the question why does a permanent magnet have an active field, without an external source? Science has no answer to this question, for that the answer is in another, the magnetic field is more primary than the electric one.

PS If you look at Holcomb's designs, he did not reveal the secret of electromagnetic induction, he imitated a mechanical generator. Figuer's secret is not revealed by Holcomb.

Sincerely.

alan

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1058 on: July 21, 2022, 11:49:53 AM »
Why discuss Lenz? 
Because it is this law that enforces conservation of energy in induction systems.

"Lenz's law is a consequence of the law of conservation of energy. The law of conservation of energy states that energy can neither be created nor be destroyed, but it can be changed from one form to another form. Lenz's law states that the direction of current is such that it opposes the change in the magnetic flux."

If we want OU we have to know what we are doing and understand what we are trying to change. I think the secret lies in motionless "motional E induction", see Floyd Sweet "Nothing is something", also see Hooper, Moray and Graneau.

What is LinGen?Is it the same as that patent posted before? https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/f1/73/db/bddc31a19a8100/CA2357550A1.pdf

alan

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1059 on: July 21, 2022, 12:43:50 PM »
Does Bearden's MEG work?

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1060 on: July 21, 2022, 01:23:07 PM »
Does Bearden's MEG work?

        I improved it a little  :)          https://overunity.com/18563/magnetic-air-coil-generator-mag/

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1061 on: July 21, 2022, 02:50:45 PM »

Hello  to All,

Ok, so, continuing on the Lenz "saga"... :)

In my opinion, and in order to understand what these non rotational systems do related to this law...We need to separate Lenz into two parts:

1- The physical side effect, which could be seen anywhere we look at...Generators, Motors and Transformers, even the later one, not having any moving part(s).
This physical side would be easier to understand  from any N-S Magnetic Interaction point of view, no matter where we set the individual N or S poles, whether at Rotor or in Stator, So, all this "Locking" physically of the Rotors is plainly and simply caused by Two Magnetic Fields in Attraction mode.

2- As a Direct consequence of the Physical side, or as a "Direct Response" to, We get a demand of higher currents from our Input side, in order to compensate the System to "equalize" back to normal operation.

Permanent Magnet Systems are ALWAYS trying to look for a balance of Forces by themselves no matter what, without absolutely any external help...We have seen it in all attempts done through history, in order to get a perfectly self-running Magnet Motor.
And so, since we are playing with Magnetic Systems as well, on any Electromagnetic Machine, we have exactly the same balancing principle applying...

1-a : Any Motor, once loaded mechanically, increases Lenz physically and as a result, Increases Currents, due -directly- to a Rotor forced to slow down physically, which causes magnetic interactions to "acumulate" or delay related to Space-Time progression.
1-b: The same exact deal as in a Motor, takes place in any Rotary Generator...
1-c: In a Transformer, even it does not have any moving parts, we obtain the same "Lenz Effect #2", so, current rises in our Primaries, whenever we load the Secondary or Output end.

How come?

Well, the answer is simple, we have Both Magnetic Fields (Input-Output) locked down and Static, caged and bound to the same, commonly shared steel frame.
IMHO, a Transformer principle, is just like a "locked generator" except the windings are calculated to stand the Input-Output currents range, and the bulky steel frame for heat sinking, without the need to rotate.

So, first, digest all this, I have put it in simple words, without any math formulas...in order to understand it better...and not making a long post...

So, I will continue with Non Physical Rotational Generation Systems next...


Best regards


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1062 on: July 21, 2022, 03:33:29 PM »
        I improved it a little  :)          https://overunity.com/18563/magnetic-air-coil-generator-mag/
 
Awesome, this is the VTA. Did you get OU?

Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1063 on: July 21, 2022, 03:43:19 PM »

Part 2...(Cont)

Non Rotational Energy Generating Systems and Lenz...

Again, this is only my opinion, as I have proven all my work on these Systems for a long while...even though I have not being able to prove a full and steady Overunity result...for those "knowledgeable in the Arts", know that I am very close to achieving it...

On these Systems, the Lenz reacting Field is set to be fixed to a Stator steel frame, while the "Non rotary Rotor" steel frame and copper coils (sorry about the redundance), are in charge to Transport the Magnetic Field Spectrum through its mass...

And this is where the advantage simply lies...where we have a Frictionless, a Massless Field, which could travel through Space-Time with zero friction, zero heat generation (except for the heat produced by currents running through the copper wires, which is very fast sinked on the steel frame).
This is our way to compensate for Lenz reaction, period.
The rest is all related to the original principles, where by simply driving this "Ghost Field" through any mass, faster and effortlessly, it will fight Lenz reaction, which we have caged in Space-Time fixed position.

Lenz will jump and Hum in a Tantrum, like there is no tomorrow...but there is nothing it can do against such a fast displacement of the massless Field...and Currents will do come down at Input, while Increasing at Output...the same way we achieve it on the typical Rotary Generator...except here we do it much easier and less Energy spending in Gasoline and Heat generation.

This is plain and simple guys....and all you need to do, is stop talking here, and get your hands on the freaking Bench...and build it!!...so you all can see it with your own eyes what I am talking about.

And like any surging, new technology, it needs a lot of dedication, a  lot of calculation to make it perfectly stable...

And so, I am working on it...Now...Are You?

Sincerely


Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1064 on: July 21, 2022, 04:15:18 PM »
Hello,

Since the Holcomb generators use a traveling magnetic flux wave,
can a hybrid configuration of PMs and (EMs or coils) be used in the design?
Would the usage of PMs along with the (EMs or coils) be more efficient
than a design without PMs in it?

Would not a configuration of PMs and Active EMs produce a functional PM magnet?

The drawing is just a crude first thought of what it might look like.
I am sure there would be better designs.

Lunkster