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Author Topic: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world  (Read 120911 times)

Offline Beginners Mind

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #795 on: June 22, 2022, 04:07:12 AM »
Interesting efficiency data just published by Holcomb Energy System is in the .pdf file attached.  This relates to their In Line Power Generator (ILPG) which has an efficiency of about 200% and is to be their first commercial product.  HES is billing the ILPG as a device to be wired between the mains input to a facility and the facility's loads in order to halve the electric bill.  HES is specifically not drawing attention to the fact that the ILPG could be looped back into itself, disconnected from the grid and function as a self-running generator.  Data on self-running embodiments of their tech is present in their WO2021063522A1 patent application.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #796 on: June 22, 2022, 07:52:09 AM »
Used a 24VAC power supply for initial test. Wired 2 rotor poles in series 16ohm, my load was a 15 watt incandescent lamp. I could barely get 2 volts from the stator coils. More testing tonight. Maybe the rotor coils should be in series with the lamp but not each other to drop resistance back to 8ohm.

Find the optimal position of the rotor in the stator. This is not a simple process, you need to turn the rotor by one stator tooth, each time and try, you need to find the position at which the induction is maximum.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #797 on: June 22, 2022, 11:04:12 AM »
Again, measurements with devices that do not show correctly when measuring disturbed current.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #798 on: June 22, 2022, 12:36:52 PM »
Interesting efficiency data just published by Holcomb Energy System is in the .pdf file attached.  This relates to their In Line Power Generator (ILPG) which has an efficiency of about 200% and is to be their first commercial product.  HES is billing the ILPG as a device to be wired between the mains input to a facility and the facility's loads in order to halve the electric bill.  HES is specifically not drawing attention to the fact that the ILPG could be looped back into itself, disconnected from the grid and function as a self-running generator.  Data on self-running embodiments of their tech is present in their WO2021063522A1 patent application.
If the flux doesn't change by growing and diminishing because coils are pulsed, then efficiency is higher, Lenz works against this change (unless change in s and n cancel in the HES). Changing flux through the area of a conductor causes induction and the change is countered by Lenz when amps flow, motional E also moves and separate charges and induce an EMF, but it can't be countered because the EMF and amps are not caused by the changing flux through an area, but by a time varying magnetic vector potential in space, this creates an E-field, the time-varying MVP is created by rotating a curled magnetic vector potential by the magnetic poles, while trying to keep flux-change through the area of the coil zero. Lenz appears, but according to the right-hand rule, it works against nothing. Cmiiw

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #799 on: June 22, 2022, 12:42:40 PM »
Is OU possible at all?
I will give you an example.
A common room air conditioner or a heat pump. Typical COP=3, that means you put IN 1 kW of electrical power and get OUT 3 kW of power in the form of heat.
Is it OU?
No. It is just a thermodynamic pump that taps to ambient heat existing in the atmospheric air. It compresses large amount of cubic meters of ambient air with low grade temperature, let's say 10 degC to smaller amount of cubic meters of air at let's say 40 degC that is useable to heat your home in the winter.
Source of energy is known- ambient air.
Energy may be converted from one form to another, or from "low grade form, not useable" to "high grade, useable".
Do solar panel is OU? No, it produces electricity from "free" solar radiation. We tapped to that source of energy and converted it to electricity.
There is a lot of such "free, low grade forms" of energy around us. We just need to be smart to create CONVERTERS that can turn non useable form of energy into useable.


The same way we could utilise magnetic field of permanent magnet in the flyback mode MEG.
Regarding Holcomb claims, I do not see a "energy source" that could lead to COP>1. Spinning magnetic field across AC motor stator makes it an ordinary generator, the only difference is there is no mechanical rotation  to create rotation of magnetic field. Lenz law apply.




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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #800 on: June 22, 2022, 12:46:26 PM »
Spinning magnetic field across AC motor stator makes it an ordinary generator, the only difference is there is no mechanical rotation  to create rotation of magnetic field. Lenz law apply.

The across part doesn't happen, the axis of rotation is in the same position as the center axis of the coil (this becomes obvious with the DZ gen). Otherwise you were right.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #801 on: June 22, 2022, 12:52:08 PM »
If the flux doesn't change by growing and diminishing because coils are pulsed, then efficiency is higher. Changing flux through the area of a conductor causes induction and the change is countered by Lenz when amps flow, motional E also moves and separate charges and induce an EMF, but it can't be countered because the EMF and amps are not caused by the changing flux through an area, but by a time varying magnetic vector potential in space, this creates an E-field, which is created by rotating a curled magnetic vector potential by the magnetic poles. Cmiiw

What do you mean by Lenz's rule?

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According to Faraday's law of electromagnetic induction, with a change in the magnetic flux Ф, penetrating the electrical circuit, a current is excited in it, called induction current.
The magnitude of the electromotive force responsible for this current is determined by the equation [1]:

E = -dФ/dt

where the minus sign means that the induced emf acts so that the induced current prevents the flux from changing. This fact is reflected in Lenz's rule.

Well, let's have a vector diagram of elements, write them down correctly in order:

Bm = -E; E = -Bi; Bm=Bi

where:
Bm - is the vector of magnetic induction of the external magnetic flux; [Ф=BmS]
E - is the EMF vector of the conductor;
Bi - the vector of magnetic induction of the conductor under current.

we don’t write the time, but everything is right about the generation of electricity in the generator phase. Lenz in its purest form, deciphered! The vector of the magnetic induction of the external field coincides with the vector of the magnetic induction of the conductor under current.

Thus, the induction of the phase enhances the induction of the exciter, in the current the flux linkage is enhanced and the generator slows down, that there are forces!

So what is preventing it?

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #802 on: June 22, 2022, 01:07:54 PM »
I will give you an example.
A common room air conditioner or a heat pump. Typical COP=3, that means you put IN 1 kW of electrical power and get OUT 3 kW of power in the form of heat.
Is it OU?
No. It is just a thermodynamic pump that taps to ambient heat existing in the atmospheric air. It compresses large amount of cubic meters of ambient air with low grade temperature, let's say 10 degC to smaller amount of cubic meters of air at let's say 40 degC that is useable to heat your home in the winter.
Source of energy is known- ambient air.
Energy may be converted from one form to another, or from "low grade form, not useable" to "high grade, useable".
Do solar panel is OU? No, it produces electricity from "free" solar radiation. We tapped to that source of energy and converted it to electricity.
There is a lot of such "free, low grade forms" of energy around us. We just need to be smart to create CONVERTERS that can turn non useable form of energy into useable.


The same way we could utilise magnetic field of permanent magnet in the flyback mode MEG.
Regarding Holcomb claims, I do not see a "energy source" that could lead to COP>1. Spinning magnetic field across AC motor stator makes it an ordinary generator, the only difference is there is no mechanical rotation  to create rotation of magnetic field. Lenz law apply.


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Pix

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #803 on: June 22, 2022, 01:09:20 PM »
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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #804 on: June 22, 2022, 01:19:26 PM »
Ф is a product of area, so with Faraday's law, E-field and its product, EMF, is determined by change through an area. E=-dA/dt-∇Ф is a function not dependent of flux and area, and A is changing when a magnetic field is moving, itself having a curled A and E is caused by  'curl free A-vector potential' in Bearden's accent, if you can cause dA/dt while keeping dФ/dt zero, then Lenz's law cannot work against the flux that causes the current, because it isn't changing through the area. Don't even now if it's right, but this is my explanation for the DZgen.
I'll give your post some more thought later on.

This is a utopia, I was considering direction vectors and not generalized chatter! About how dФ and dt appear, your school lied to you:   Ф1-Ф2 / t1-t2 = dФ/dt - time interval delta with different values.

Sincerely.   ;) ;) ;) ;)

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #805 on: June 22, 2022, 01:23:39 PM »
ur right

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #806 on: June 22, 2022, 01:31:19 PM »
Do not be upset, understanding will come, read again and think!   

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/06/magnetization-of-steel-magnetic.html
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PS: 1 kW = 1000 J, 3 kW = 3 J. 1<3 no matter what form it goes into, it is more than one, everything else .....
According to rakarskiy every room air conditioner is an OVERUNITY device  ;D
Along with his  mechanical press  ;D


Well. Gentelmens!
Mr. rakarsiy already found a Holy Grail OU , this forum is no more needed  ;D


Cheers,
Pix

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #807 on: June 22, 2022, 01:37:43 PM »
According to rakarskiy every room air conditioner is an OVERUNITY device  ;D
Along with his  mechanical press  ;D


Well. Gentelmens!
Mr. rakarsiy already found a Holy Grail OU , this forum is no more needed  ;D


Cheers,
Pix
it is, usable but not marketable. 
EM-'OU' is pumping energy from the vacuum instead of putting in energy to get an equal out of the vacuum. 
OU doesn't exist, EM COP>1 is the goal. 

1kW=1000 J/sec. Watt = average energy per second.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #808 on: June 22, 2022, 02:28:36 PM »
it is, usable but not marketable. 
EM-'OU' is pumping energy from the vacuum instead of putting in energy to get an equal out of the vacuum. 
OU doesn't exist, EM COP>1 is the goal. 

1kW=1000 J/sec. Watt = average energy per second.

The SI system has a base unit of time of 1 second.
Therefore, 1 J = 1 Watt / second or 1 Joule / second = 1 Watt are identical, therefore 1 J = 1 W is absolutely correct. Everything else is a puff of the cheeks or an indicator of the absence of a higher school in the luggage.
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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #809 on: June 22, 2022, 03:01:38 PM »
The SI system has a base unit of time of 1 second.
Therefore, 1 J = 1 Watt / second or 1 Joule / second = 1 Watt are identical, therefore 1 J = 1 W is absolutely correct. Everything else is a puff of the cheeks or an indicator of the absence of a higher school in the luggage.
Sincerely!
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How can you say "1 J = 1 Watt / second"?

Correct is:

1 J = 1 watt second

J = Joule, a unit of energy or work
W = Watt, a unit of power, defined as the rate at which work is done or rate at which energy is transfered or converted, therefore Power in watts = Joules / second, 1 W = J / s. Math tells us that:
1 J = 1 W • s

Not as you say!
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