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bistander

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #600 on: June 03, 2022, 05:27:23 PM »
To Ufo and all,

"It is difficult to give a simple definition of magnetic or electromagnetic field."

https://e-magnetica.pl/magnetic_field

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Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #601 on: June 03, 2022, 05:46:27 PM »
You're making stuff up. I never said that or implied it.
bi
Your previously posted link (which since you post it, means that you agree with) establishes a Magnetic Flux direction, which comes out of NORTH and returns to South...completely ignoring the center of the Field...but that's not the point.
The point is your B Vector direction, which "happens" to coincide with this unproven directional flow "theory" from N to S.


I DID NOT MAKE THIS STUFF UP...You post it.

rakarskiy

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #602 on: June 03, 2022, 06:36:41 PM »
To Ufo and all,

"It is difficult to give a simple definition of magnetic or electromagnetic field."

https://e-magnetica.pl/magnetic_field

bi

This is all the concept of modern physics. It is nothing but a concept, the same as the concept of an electron. I don't think it's true.
Especially the Lorentz force, which does not manifest itself in any way in the induction of EMF on the wire, inside the magnetically conductive core.

bistander

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #603 on: June 04, 2022, 12:24:31 AM »
This is all the concept of modern physics. It is nothing but a concept, the same as the concept of an electron. I don't think it's true.
Especially the Lorentz force, which does not manifest itself in any way in the induction of EMF on the wire, inside the magnetically conductive core.

Dr Stan Zurek wrote that. His bio is impressive. Did you look at it? I think he is in your part of the world. Perhaps you could arrange a discussion with him about your misconceptions of Lorentz.
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bistander

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #604 on: June 04, 2022, 12:44:21 AM »
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But you brought the theory that "B Fields "Vector" comes only from North Pole"...
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Ufo,

OK, I see. You are misquoting from the link I posted.

https://tinyurl.com/2n2j9fm9

That isn't the best written article. Perhaps more explanatory for young students than highly technical. I believe confusion arises between descriptions of diagrams and actual theory. But there are likely a thousand other easily found references which will state explicitly that magnetic flux does not flow. Look it up.
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bistander

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #605 on: June 04, 2022, 01:23:41 AM »
Your previously posted link (which since you post it, means that you agree with) establishes a Magnetic Flux direction, which comes out of NORTH and returns to South...completely ignoring the center of the Field...but that's not the point.
The point is your B Vector direction, which "happens" to coincide with this unproven directional flow "theory" from N to S.
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Ufo, there is nothing special about the center of a magnet. It should be ignored.
You have you own theory about magnetism. I've never seen anyone of scientific reputation agree with or relate anything like it. Whereas I am in agreement with the universally accepted scientific theory.
Now you question my take on the B vector direction. That would be what is taught in every institution, textbook and tutorial. So just look it up.
The B vector direction defines the pole, not the other way around.
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rakarskiy

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #606 on: June 04, 2022, 07:38:06 AM »
Dr Stan Zurek wrote that. His bio is impressive. Did you look at it? I think he is in your part of the world. Perhaps you could arrange a discussion with him about your misconceptions of Lorentz.
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The problem is that modern physics is concepts. Today, no physicist can say exactly what magnetism and electricity are. The professors need a discussion, I don't need it.
I do not adhere to the point of view, about the material point, in understanding the fields. The Lorenz's force initially cannot affect the "charge", since it does not yet exist. "Charging" is still worth appearing.

By the way, what do you mean by "charge" - an electric field or a magnetic field, or electrons, which, according to modern science, are already in the conductor?

Mitkevich's rule "In electrical machines, electrical power is equal to mechanical power"  Pe = EI = Blv*I = BIL*v = Fv = Pk  I have already smashed to pieces here ( Resultant Ampere Force ), or rather clarified to the real picture.


Now, in our case, we are used to taking the direction vector (B) in the magnetic flux. Now let's look at the picture of a two-pole synchronous generator, in particular, the direction of the magnetic induction vectors in the walls of the slotted rods and the wire in the groove of the stator core.

We see that the vectors in the two faces of the coil coincide, while the EMF is induced. In the wall of the groove rod, only its saturation changes with time, or, as science figuratively says, "the magnetic field changes with time."
Ostets only character of the pole field is "explosion" or "implosion".

Lorenz's strength is in great prostration, don't you think?

PS experience that the vectors coincide and the EMF is induced, Ufopolitika confirmed that in this design (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD75qPTkf_w&t=1s ), if he winds it correctly to get frames, he will just get a picture from their textbook, and the maximum unidirectional EMF, they will not butt him.


rakarskiy

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #607 on: June 04, 2022, 07:59:08 AM »
two pole generator and stator winding    ;)

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #608 on: June 04, 2022, 10:11:17 AM »
... there is nothing special about the center of a magnet. It should be ignored.

Are you sure about that?
I think that in the center of a magnet or electromagnet, the most "concentrated" magnetic flux (Bm), since on its pole face, the magnetic induction is B = 1/2Bm

kolbacict

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #609 on: June 04, 2022, 11:10:14 AM »
Please answer me, a conventional car generator with a Lundel rotor.
The current consumed by the rotor magnetization winding will be the same in three cases?
1. If the rotor is stationary.
2. If the rotor rotates without load.
3. If the rotor rotates on a loaded generator.
Or will the excitation currents be different?

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #610 on: June 04, 2022, 01:15:21 PM »
Are you sure about that?
I think that in the center of a magnet or electromagnet, the most "concentrated" magnetic flux (Bm), since on its pole face, the magnetic induction is B = 1/2Bm
The quest for OU in a modified AC motor  :)
Listen, guys have  been doing it with permanent magnets and without permanent magnets, using different winding configuration, exotic windings shapes, switching techniques ect.
You will not get OU from Holcomb, doesn't matter which way you are going to make B field vector rotate.
Wrong patch for OU quest.
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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #611 on: June 04, 2022, 02:25:22 PM »
Please answer me, a conventional car generator with a Lundel rotor.
The current consumed by the rotor magnetization winding will be the same in three cases?
1. If the rotor is stationary.
2. If the rotor rotates without load.
3. If the rotor rotates on a loaded generator.
Or will the excitation currents be different?


@Kolbacict,

The current and voltage supplied to the exciter rotor coil comes from a portion of the output coils and the voltage regulator is in charge to control it.
So, no, current will not be the same in the 3 cases.

Therefore:

1-If rotor is stationary there will be zero currents.
2-In a no load alternator current will be controlled by regulator.
3-When Alternator is loaded, voltage and current regulator will increase supply to exciter coil.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #612 on: June 04, 2022, 02:37:55 PM »
@All

An AC Motor (single phase) windings will not work as a generator for these Stationary Rotor Systems.(I have tested it)
An AC Motor (2 Phase) Stator, I have it, but have not got there yet...have to machine rotor and stator to make them fit.
But just by looking at it, I can tell it will work, but not as a dedicated Generator winding for these type of systems.

I have not tested a 3 phase Motor Stator. But, because of its overlapped windings in sequence, it should work beautifully.

I have Generator Stators (single phase) and it does not work as a dedicated stator winding for these application will.

It is a different configuration...

I will post the correct winding soon on my Thread.

I give (or at least try) to share solutions to resolve OU once and for all...Not "denials" all the time...no "hidden traps"...no secrets.

That's me.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #613 on: June 04, 2022, 03:10:51 PM »
1-If rotor is stationary there will be zero currents.
Hmm... Obviously you mean that the car's electrical system will simply turn off the voltage regulator when the engine is not running. In our case, the current through the field winding will be determined simply by the ohmic resistance of the winding. I meant it. In the other two cases, I don't know.
I didn't take measurements.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #614 on: June 04, 2022, 03:17:03 PM »
History repeats itself.
There were many " wonder" patents a'la Holcomb trying to make OU from induction motor-like variations.
Reminds me of this one:
US20020125774A1 - Continuous electrical generator - Google Patents


Cheers,
Pix