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bistander

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #525 on: May 27, 2022, 03:33:26 AM »
So "phase rotor" means a slip ring induction motor in your vocabulary?
Thanks,
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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #526 on: May 27, 2022, 03:58:47 AM »
bistander
This reminds me of populism and a nursery rhyme called "Humpty Dumpty". In every book they show Humpty as an egg which supposedly falls off a wall.
In fact an egg has nothing to do with the real story and Humpty Dumpty was an English cannon, lol.
The English were being bombarded in a fortification and there cannon called humpty dumpty fell off the wall it was mounted on and could not be put back together again.

The popular story of a rotating magnetic field is similar. It's not a real field rotation because a magnetic field cannot rotate.
In fact, it's a progressively switched(Sine Wave) field which uses flux linkage to emulate a field rotation.
As one magnetic field/coil forward expands another magnetic field/coil behind collapses.
The flux linking between coils, links them, appearing as a single field when if fact it is switched.

The first clue should have been the term AC or alternating current. Logically a field cannot truly rotate when it ceases to exist in between an alternation/reversal.
The field expands(N) then contracts to zero then expands in an opposite polarity(S) then contracts to zero and repeats this cycle.
So we should be clear this expansion/contraction/flux linking may appear to be a rotation just as blinking christmas lights appear to move in a linear fashion however it is not a true field rotation... it's an illusion.

In my opinion it is these kinds of false beliefs,ie. field rotation, which hinders a persons ability to learn.
It's simply not true and cannot be justified with any real facts or justification.

Regards
AC

Hi AC,
I disagree with you. But then we all can see things differently. Perhaps you missed it, but a few posts back I linked to the mathematical proof of the RMF. I'll see if I can find that and edit the link into this post for you.

https://www.yourelectricalguide.com/2017/07/rotating-magnetic-field-in-three-phase-induction-motor.html

But in short, it is the vector sum of the three H values from the three phase currents in the space and time of interest that results in an actual traveling flux wave or field.

I read with interest discussion between smudge and F6 about the deep nature of magnetism. I'm not prepared to go there. But I think that if it is possible that a magnetic field can "move", then 3-phase current applied to the stator winding can cause such movement.
bi

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #527 on: May 27, 2022, 07:15:26 AM »
A simple paragraph from a physics textbook (on the attached slide).

and another one of the teaching materials for students:

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The magnetic field of the stator, superimposed on the magnetic field of the rotor, can both weaken and strengthen it. The influence of the stator magnetic field on the rotor magnetic field is called the armature reaction. The armature response is different for different loads. In the case of an active load, the total magnetic flux of the generator increases slightly, and the generator EMF increases. In the case of an inductive load, the total magnetic flux of the generator is reduced.

Definitely two different fields magnetic fields of the rotor and stator in the generator..

Science calculates the dynamics of this field,
https://www.yourelectricalguide.com/2017/07/rotating-magnetic-field-in-three-phase-induction-motor.html

if an asynchronous motor can create induction in a rotor cage, why is it not possible, in a static iron instead of a rotor, with a generator winding?

Logic must be logical.


Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #528 on: May 27, 2022, 04:50:47 PM »


The popular story of a rotating magnetic field is similar. It's not a real field rotation because a magnetic field cannot rotate.
In fact, it's a progressively switched(Sine Wave) field which uses flux linkage to emulate a field rotation.
As one magnetic field/coil forward expands another magnetic field/coil behind collapses.
The flux linking between coils, links them, appearing as a single field when if fact it is switched.


The way you put it sounds convincing...if it did not have some errors, technical, though...

First, yes, in alternating currents, yes, whether 1, 2, 3 phase it works exactly as you have written above...

But what Pierre Cotnoir was showing, what I have been showing, and what Holcomb is based on...is a totally different concept.

It is NOT just about turning "One Field/Coil" forward and collapse another "One Field/Coil" behind...Sorry, but it is not.

It is about a whole Field RESOLUTION, which is based on AS MANY COILS AS possible in the Configuration, which generates ONE SINGLE FIELD, generated by many coils in SERIES and PARALLEL. As a MAJORITY of Coils are ON during the Operation, and only a MINORITY of Coils keeps alternating on both sides of the main Field Polarities (Only Two, North-South).

Now, the fact that "A MAJORITY OF COILS" are ALWAYS ON during the whole switching process, that keeps "alive" a Main Field configured by all other coils.

And so, YES, that main Field actually "rotates" as a whole, not like Christmas lights do...that "applies" when comparing to AC Currents, which "flashes" ALL coils in a sequential way.

Can You Guys see the difference between both ways?

And so, Typical Alternated Current CAN NOT DO THAT, no matter if it is 1,2,3 Phase type.

As a matter of fact, you have helped me to use your explanation as how AC does it...thanks!



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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #529 on: May 27, 2022, 06:51:55 PM »
I totally agree with Ufopolitics.
And that Main Field saturates the core so it behaves like a saturable reactor.
The  impedance decreases.


https://ia800202.us.archive.org/7/items/MagneticAmplifiers/MagneticAmplifiers_text.pdf
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rakarskiy

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #530 on: May 27, 2022, 07:24:33 PM »
Friends, with the advent of magnetic induction, magnetic permeability actually disappears, this indicates only one thing, that there is a magnetic field. Ufopolitika correctly says, an independent magnetic field. This field is present in any synchronous generator. What you are trying to explain is related to the asynchronous generator

kolbacict

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #531 on: May 27, 2022, 08:51:10 PM »
But, appreciate my creativity of thinking.  Sorry for offtopic.
Trying to find my scheme on a free energy forum that has nothing to do with my commercial affairs.
Because no one in this world hears anyone, and does not help.
But Jesus Christ said, seek and you will find, ask and it will be given to you.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #532 on: May 27, 2022, 10:03:29 PM »
rakarskiy i don't understand what you talkin about .
Till you show me something real and working I stick to Holcomb.


rakarskiy

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #533 on: May 27, 2022, 10:58:39 PM »
rakarskiy i don't understand what you talkin about .
Till you show me something real and working I stick to Holcomb.
The question is, how are you going to stick with Holcomb if you don't understand how a traditional synchronous generator works? I just sort out how the generator works, where it comes from. By the way, the stator field is calculated in all design bureaus. Magnetomotive force from phase wires. It is she who excites our desired miraculous field.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #534 on: May 28, 2022, 12:13:19 AM »
Rakarskiy still describing TRADITONAL generators and transformers and thinking they are overunity
 nothing new there.
What ufopoitics describing is new and game changing.


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #535 on: May 28, 2022, 03:04:06 AM »
Rakarskiy
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The question is, how are you going to stick with Holcomb if you don't understand how a traditional synchronous generator works? I just sort out how the generator works, where it comes from. By the way, the stator field is calculated in all design bureaus. Magnetomotive force from phase wires. It is she who excites our desired miraculous field.

It's problematic because while the switched coil/core rotor may act like a synchronous motor/generator and the inner multi pole switched coil stator may or may not this has little to do with the mechanism for gain. Holcomb states all that were presently debating is simply a precursor to something happening in the cores ie. extra electron spin alignment of the domains.

Has anyone actually built or tested anything?. Over a decade ago I was designing, building and testing my own AC motors and generators, synchronous, modified PWM H bridge, VFD, synchronous PM rotors, shaded pole, switched shaded pole, grid tied and island mode with static and variable capacitance phase correction. Been there done that first hand on my bench which is how I know many here are talking nonsense.

The fact is none of the stuff I have done in the past mentioned above gets anyone even remotely close to where Holcomb supposedly is today. Everyone and there dog has been down this road for the last 100 years and those skilled in the art understand it's a dead horse. As Nikola Tesla's best friend Mark Twain once remarked..."It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."

Ergo, something has been missed, something fundamental to the process most overlooked was discovered by many of these FE inventors through countless hours of hands on experiments. Do you know how to succeed at FE?, I have done it many times, to actually discover something new we have to follow this procedure...
1)Think we know more than everyone else who came before us which is bs but build stuff to try to prove our claim anyways.
2)Fail miserably at every turn proving we know nothing but keep trying.
3)In time we may screw up and do something new by sheer accident which may lead to a new discovery.
4)Here we need the intelligence to understand we did screw up and something we didn't expect just happened.
5)If we can determine what happened then we can claim we knew it all along even if we had no idea how we actually did it.
6)Congratulations... your a FE inventor.

Regards
AC




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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #536 on: May 28, 2022, 06:27:55 AM »

Holcomb is building and testing working prototypes, Rakarskiy has nothing to show.
Still he is claiming his concept superior to Holcomb.
Rakarskiy 2000% vs Holcomb 750%.
Holcomb 1 Rakarskiy 0.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #537 on: May 28, 2022, 07:09:32 AM »
In my video slides show the ratio of excitation power to the output power of a car alternator. The second slide, the assumption if you do the switching of electromagnets. This is an analysis, just of the Holcomb or patent system where the commutation is through Brushes and a collector. My project has not yet reached the goal, but I'm working on it.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #538 on: May 28, 2022, 07:15:25 AM »
It seems that someone wants to nullify the disclosure of the principle of a solid-state generator system, with field rotation. Do not worry, I will make every effort, I have not yet told everything that has opened. A dynamically supported field appears in the system, it is rotated by a rotor, and not the rotating field itself, as they say in textbooks.
I will say more, this field induces itself, according to the principle, pass it on to another. Excitation is needed only for connection and rotation. Here with a twist and how to disassemble it, many, not only at a dead end, in complete prostration
A little hint, if you do not know how a classic synchronous generator works, with the winding laid in the core groove, you will never understand how the Holcomb Power System works.

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« Reply #539 on: May 28, 2022, 08:23:59 AM »
My project has not yet reached the goal, but I'm working on it.


Hope you get there, but still Holcomb 1 Rakarskiy 0.[/size]

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