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Author Topic: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world  (Read 122165 times)

Offline Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #510 on: May 25, 2022, 02:15:08 PM »
Hello to All,


A new Member here (Beginners Mind) just send me this email, and ask me to post it since Member's post is still waiting on approval:


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I attempted to post the following yesterday on the Holcomb thread, but having never posted before the post must be cleared by an administrator first.  Since it is unclear how long that may take I would like to share this with you in the hopes you will get the message out.  I'm sure you will agree it is important to those following this topic.


A patent attorney just informed me that Dr. Holcomb's patent application of Aug 1, 2019, so often referenced in this thread, is now a granted US patent dated May 17, 2022, just 6 days ago.

The US patent number is US 11,336,134 B2 and not yet showing up on the Google patent search.

The cover page art was swapped for one of the more recondite embodiments and there are some minor, non-material edits in the claims at the end.  But otherwise the granted patent is identical to the Aug 1, 2019 patent application in my review.


Regards to All


Ufopolitics

Offline rakarskiy

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #511 on: May 25, 2022, 03:42:33 PM »
 Ufopolitics, good news!

Letter B, at the end of the patent number (US11336134B2) what exactly does it mean?
Does anyone know the rules for assigning numbers and categories?

Offline listener192

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #512 on: May 25, 2022, 05:00:54 PM »

If the patent granted was against application US 2019 / 0238011 A1,
that application did not make a claim that it could power its self.
It also makes no specific claim for efficiency.
On this basis I could see why the USPTO would grant a patent.


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #513 on: May 25, 2022, 05:14:46 PM »
https://patents.google.com/patent/US11336134B2/en?oq=US+%2211336134%22+B2


B1: [/font][/size]Invention patent (second publication after examination)[/font][/size] [/font][/size]
B2: Supplementary invention patent (second publication after examination)[/font][/size]


Offline Cadman

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #514 on: May 25, 2022, 05:23:57 PM »
Ufopolitics, good news!

Letter B, at the end of the patent number (US11336134B2) what exactly does it mean?
Does anyone know the rules for assigning numbers and categories?

https://www.uspto.gov/learning-and-resources/support-centers/electronic-business-center/kind-codes-included-uspto-patent

 B2      Patent      Having a previously published pre-grant publication and available March 2001

C1, C2, C3       Reexamination Certificate        Previously used codes B1 and B2 are now used for granted Patents

Offline bistander

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #515 on: May 25, 2022, 06:00:41 PM »
If the patent granted was against application US 2019 / 0238011 A1,
that application did not make a claim that it could power its self.
It also makes no specific claim for efficiency.
On this basis I could see why the USPTO would grant a patent.


L192

Thanks.
In a nutshell, what is it good for? Usefulness?
bi

Offline phoneboy

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #516 on: May 26, 2022, 02:48:16 AM »
I understood. This is what is in many switching power supplies to protect against excess surge current. As part of the PWM controller.  And also in my frequency converters for asynchronous
 motors, for which you do not give me a diagram.  :)
And what does rolamite have to do with it?
 :-\
Just like a contact switch?
I thought at first that there was a big intrigue hidden there ...

A rolamite has nothing to do with the holcomb device it was just an idea for a low friction sparkless mechanical switch with regards to the figueroa device.
The reason I posted was because I see some possible correlatipns between the two methods, the moving field and "A unique method of harnessing energy from the magnetic domains found in ferromagnetic and paramagnetic materials"
In the drawing you have two closed magnetic circuits.  If you were to map out the fields in the inductor array based on input to the individual switch positions you see how the fields break into two loops between positions 2-8.  All that was covered long ago.  The reason for the ferrite rods is due to that. The ferrite gets magnetized for free aligning its domains and then this stray field that magnetizes it moves on as the switch position changes. Now, what happens to this piece or ferrite as its field collapses in this closed magnetic circuit?  Essentially, I think if the these devices are overunity its due to heat.

Offline rakarskiy

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #517 on: May 26, 2022, 06:48:01 AM »
https://patents.google.com/patent/US11336134B2/en?oq=US+%2211336134%22+B2


B1: [/font][/size]Invention patent (second publication after examination)[/font][/size] [/font][/size]
B2: Supplementary invention patent (second publication after examination)[/font][/size]

Thank you!  "re-publication after EXPERTISE!" it remains to be understood what list of measures is included in the examination when a patent application is granted or denied.

Nice illustration of the same Holcomb patent "Solid State Rotor" under different editions.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20190238011A1/en?oq=US+"11336134"+B2
I dare to suggest that there is such an item in the EXPERTISE - "research of the current model".

Offline kolbacict

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #518 on: May 26, 2022, 08:19:42 AM »
  Essentially, I think if the these devices are overunity its due to heat.
I thought about it. If we catch the cooling phase of the ferromagnetic material and use external thermal energy. But, unfortunately, the speed of electrical processes is too fast, and thermal inertia
is too slow. This is a technological contradiction.

p.s. Rolamite itself is a unique device. :)
So I fantasize about creating an electrical analogue of it.

Offline rakarskiy

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #519 on: May 26, 2022, 09:38:24 AM »


Another story of the solid state generator, the principle of the same switching is different. Changing places of terms in a traditional commutator machine.

Patent *US8629588B2 , Inventor Park Zhe Sun,
"A device for generating AC power by a DC power brush rotating with a field pole generator, and a device for generating DC power"

(cunning name can be just SOLID STATE GENERATOR)

peculiarities
2010-07-08 Application filed by Jae Song Park
2012-05-10 Publication US20120113697A1  (Three years after application)
2014-01-14 The application is satisfied* (the letter B at the end of the patent indicates that an examination has been carried out)
2014-01-14 Publication US8629588B2 (Four years after publication, and seven years after application)
Status Active until 2030-12-17

Offline pix

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #520 on: May 26, 2022, 12:17:20 PM »
I still can't see a difference between Holcomb "non mechanical rotation generator"  and  AC slip ring motor with locked rotor.  ;D
Apart from complexity....


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #521 on: May 26, 2022, 01:06:39 PM »
I still can't see a difference between Holcomb "non mechanical rotation generator"  and  AC slip ring motor with locked rotor.  ;D
Apart from complexity....

Cheers,
Pix

Or with an AC motor with a phase rotor.
In Ukraine, by the way, they immediately suggested using the installation of an AC motor with a phase rotor, fixing the rotor to counteract rotation, as a variant of a static converter. I don't know if the author implemented the idea.
If it is possible to excite a rotating field in a fixed phase rotor, it must be taken into account that the supplied excitation energy will be many times less.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #522 on: May 26, 2022, 09:33:11 PM »
Mr. Radarkskiy,
What is a "phase rotor"?
bi

Mr. Pix,
I agree. I think most do not realize, not comprehend or just don't believe the rotating magnetic field (commonly referred to as RMF) found in the 3-phase machines.
bi

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #523 on: May 26, 2022, 11:47:10 PM »
Mr. Radarkskiy,
What is a "phase rotor"?
bi

Mr. Pix,
I agree. I think most do not realize, not comprehend or just don't believe the rotating magnetic field (commonly referred to as RMF) found in the 3-phase machines.
bi

https://youtu.be/JPn5Ou-N0b0
https://kiev.prom.ua/p1556480543-elektrodvigatel-faznym-rotorom.html

Offline onepower

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #524 on: May 27, 2022, 03:28:42 AM »
bistander
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I agree. I think most do not realize, not comprehend or just don't believe the rotating magnetic field (commonly referred to as RMF) found in the 3-phase machines.

This reminds me of populism and a nursery rhyme called "Humpty Dumpty". In every book they show Humpty as an egg which supposedly falls off a wall.
In fact an egg has nothing to do with the real story and Humpty Dumpty was an English cannon, lol.
The English were being bombarded in a fortification and there cannon called humpty dumpty fell off the wall it was mounted on and could not be put back together again.

The popular story of a rotating magnetic field is similar. It's not a real field rotation because a magnetic field cannot rotate.
In fact, it's a progressively switched(Sine Wave) field which uses flux linkage to emulate a field rotation.
As one magnetic field/coil forward expands another magnetic field/coil behind collapses.
The flux linking between coils, links them, appearing as a single field when if fact it is switched.

The first clue should have been the term AC or alternating current. Logically a field cannot truly rotate when it ceases to exist in between an alternation/reversal.
The field expands(N) then contracts to zero then expands in an opposite polarity(S) then contracts to zero and repeats this cycle.
So we should be clear this expansion/contraction/flux linking may appear to be a rotation just as blinking christmas lights appear to move in a linear fashion however it is not a true field rotation... it's an illusion.

In my opinion it is these kinds of false beliefs,ie. field rotation, which hinders a persons ability to learn.
It's simply not true and cannot be justified with any real facts or justification.

Regards
AC