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Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #300 on: April 03, 2022, 09:38:23 PM »
Hi Ufopolilitics...
"We all had this scenario in front of our eyes for hundred of years... :( "


in my only  post some time ago I was also asking something that looks very close.
anyway, a lot in common with Figuera and Antonio D Angelo patent.
Just rewinded a old rotor as holcomb/D Angelo have...need sometestings

rgds


Hello Marcos,


Great!!...good luck!!


I tried Figuera way back, is a different approach, about ramping up and ramping down magnetic fields...by use of resistors or inductors, either way it is just a short linear movement which plays with field intensity...


My new approach would be to keep a steady field (Input power constant), while rotating it 360º continuously inside a Stator Field...I see this approach much more robust and easier (flexible) to adjust field speed and intensity until desired results...then leaving it there...


I read your previous posts, yes, you have tried before...but no one paid attention... :(






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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #301 on: April 05, 2022, 07:28:52 AM »
I was reading the DNV. These two pages sum it all up. Really, no kidding. A magnetic material with a high mu generates more electric flux for a certain current, than plexiglas... really... Now you know why we don't use plexiglas in transformers.


The third party who tested this (btw at Holcomb's facility in Florida, not somewhere else) must have had absolutely no experience in magnetism (except probably for his fridge door magnets)...  :o

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #302 on: April 05, 2022, 08:28:03 AM »
Good Morning ( PT-time),I am actually cleaning my work-table its content and I saw on a handwritten page an oval crised area :
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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #303 on: April 05, 2022, 08:50:07 AM »
Also, I was looking at Holcomb's patent. Starting with the first claim, see below, how can something like this be patented?


This claim applies to most motors, generators, ceiling fan.... also considering that Pierre Cotnoir already did the same/similar thing and put it in the open domain.


I guess these days you can patent anything that already exists. If you invent something and start manufacturing it, yet then someone who buys your product decides to patent it, you are out of luck I guess (this assumes that a "first to file"  versus "first to invent" system is in place).


Correct me if I am wrong here...


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #304 on: April 05, 2022, 12:39:46 PM »
Maybe this device is just a three-phase transformer?

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #305 on: April 05, 2022, 03:29:39 PM »
Hello to All,




Why is it that hard to distinguish the huge differences between AC versus DC Magnetic Fields in a Rotation?


AC keeps flashing currents between positive and negative at a rate of 60 or 50 cycles per second, which generates -IN THE SAME SPOT- Flashes of North-South @ 60Hz per Cycle. Hence there are absolutely no magnetic poles going anywhere, but flashing exactly in the same place.
Actually AC Currents keep resulting in zero in every frequency up-down, except it happens over a short period of time (60cycles/sec)


When several coils are positioned in a circular fashion, where they are aligned each others at 90, 120 or 180 degrees, and wound around circular steel cores and fed with AC, we get ALTERNATED N-S poles flashing -in place- at every coil...So, if we put a piece of steel within that circle, it rotates, NOT because there is a magnetic field "rotating" and the rotor is "following it", but because it is flashing constantly N-S Magnetic Poles across the center of steel stator, which generates alternated attract-repulse fields, which bolts down to "pull and push" forces across the circle, and placed 90º, 120º or 180º apart...or for a Three Phase it is a stepping action over time of three sequentially placed coils.


There are absolutely NO ROTATION THROUGH SPACE of the SAME North-South Poles in AC Currents.




A typical COMMUTATED DC Motor (PM or Universal, NOT BLDC) works thanks to a STATIONARY, IN PLACE, AND NOT VARYING Magnetic Field, and what makes it "rotate" are the constant Coils reversing polarities at every step of commutator, while Magnetic Field is STATIC within the whole motor embodiment, including the Stator.


Brushless DC Motors (BLDC) runs thanks to a Three Phase DC SQUARE WAVE, spread at 120º apart (except for PC Fans and other small motors, which work with just one phase DC with Hall Sensors) This 3Phase DC generates a FLASHING STEPPING FIELD, similar to AC, except they have a full positive,  FLAT LINE alternating between Positive and Negative...above and below.


NONE of ALL Motors mentioned above, Not ANY Transformer, have a FULLY ROTATIONAL MAGNETIC FIELD, MUCH LESS, DC MOTORS.



*Developments on Figuera, Cotnoir and Holcomb did or are doing, is Moving THROUGH SPACE, a Constant, not flashing, not changing over time, NEVER COLLAPSING TO ZERO, Magnetic Field...and that, can only be achieved with a constant one Directional Current...called DC.

Exactly as Generators Rotors-Exciter, Inducing Fields do...except they rotate physically the Magnetic Field, by rotating the whole thing who carries it, namely the Steel Core and Coils...



What has taken place with above developments* is a CONSTANT, FULL MOVEMENTS or ROTATIONS of JUST the VIRTUAL Magnetic Field, without involving physical rotation of Steel Cores nor Coils.










Huge difference People...






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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #306 on: April 05, 2022, 05:48:55 PM »
Hello to All,




Why is it that hard to distinguish the huge differences between AC versus DC Magnetic Fields in a Rotation?


AC keeps flashing currents between positive and negative at a rate of 60 or 50 cycles per second, which generates -IN THE SAME SPOT- Flashes of North-South @ 60Hz per Cycle. Hence there are absolutely no magnetic poles going anywhere, but flashing exactly in the same place.
Actually AC Currents keep resulting in zero in every frequency up-down, except it happens over a short period of time (60cycles/sec)


When several coils are positioned in a circular fashion, where they are aligned each others at 90, 120 or 180 degrees, and wound around circular steel cores and fed with AC, we get ALTERNATED N-S poles flashing -in place- at every coil...So, if we put a piece of steel within that circle, it rotates, NOT because there is a magnetic field "rotating" and the rotor is "following it", but because it is flashing constantly N-S Magnetic Poles across the center of steel stator, which generates alternated attract-repulse fields, which bolts down to "pull and push" forces across the circle, and placed 90º, 120º or 180º apart...or for a Three Phase it is a stepping action over time of three sequentially placed coils.


There are absolutely NO ROTATION THROUGH SPACE of the SAME North-South Poles in AC Currents.

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Ufo,
You are wrong. The Alternating Currents produce mmf's which vary in amplitude over time in locations around the circular air gap. All these mmf's are a "field" in themselves which is, or gives rise, to the flux field, which is the sum of all the point mmf's at each instant. This "sum" or combination is in fact a non alternating constant magnitude flux which travels with respect to time around the air gap. A stationary charge, or test probe, in the air gap would detect absolutely no difference between the rotating magnetic field produced by the 3-phase stator and that from a rotating wound field or PM rotor.

It is not intuitive, but I've seen the mathematical proof as well as experimental demonstration. I realize that you do not believe this is possible, however it is the truth. Every engineering textbook that I can recall covers this at the beginning of the chapters on AC motors and generators. It helped to have the professor cover it in the lecture/classroom.
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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #307 on: April 05, 2022, 06:14:53 PM »
@Bistander,


You are correct. I have done extensive modeling of EM fields in various areas and it makes no difference by what source a field is excited (DC or AC). I also note that Holcomb mentions that his DC exciting coils can be replaced or supplemented by an AC 3 phase rotor (he actually mentions the use of a 3 phase motor stator in one of the patens to create/supplement the moving field).


The fact that this device is over-unity is because Lenz is being circumvented/manipulated! None of this electron-spin stuff.




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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #308 on: April 05, 2022, 06:49:45 PM »


... A stationary charge, or test probe, in the air gap would detect absolutely no difference between the rotating magnetic field produced by the 3-phase stator and that from a rotating wound field or PM rotor.

bi



Bistander,


If it makes no difference a 3 phase stator and a Permanent Magnetic Field then why, going through the trouble to insert Diodes in every Rotating Inducing Field in a Generator?...may as well get an AC wound Rotor, without Diodes, and it should do exactly same thing, with AC Inducing Fields...


Could You explain why it is not done with AC?


Also, we could just get a three Phase Stator, feed it with 3 Phase currents, and set in the center a Stationary Secondary Field, wound 3 Phase Coils...but then all we have is a 3 Phase Transformer right?...




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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #309 on: April 05, 2022, 07:08:32 PM »



Bistander,


If it makes no difference a 3 phase stator and a Permanent Magnetic Field then why, going through the trouble to insert Diodes in every Rotating Inducing Field in a Generator?...may as well get an AC wound Rotor, without Diodes, and it should do exactly same thing, with AC Inducing Fields...


Could You explain why it is not done with AC?


Also, we could just get a three Phase Stator, feed it with 3 Phase currents, and set in the center a Stationary Secondary Field, wound 3 Phase Coils...but then all we have is a 3 Phase Transformer right?...




Cheers




Ufopolitics

It is done that way in 3-phase induction motor and generators.

Last question.... Yes. That is what I, and a few others, have been telling you. We've been doing it since Tesla, you just didn't realize it.
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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #310 on: April 05, 2022, 07:30:50 PM »
It is done that way in 3-phase induction motor and generators.

Last question.... Yes. That is what I, and a few others, have been telling you. We've been doing it since Tesla, you just didn't realize it.
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Bistander,


There are two basic types of 3 phase generators. (referring to the inducing fields type)


1- Revolving Armature is a 3 Single Phase Coils, overlapped but wound separated  by 120º (Single Phase)...requires slip rings to output 3 phases PLUS  Slip Rings to feed the 3 single phase currents...(used the least)


2- Revolving Field Generator...which is a DC Field, the typical and mostly used...


Info  from link below...


THREE PHASE GENERATOR WORKING




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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #311 on: April 05, 2022, 08:01:08 PM »
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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #312 on: April 05, 2022, 08:49:43 PM »
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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #313 on: April 05, 2022, 11:37:21 PM »

Bistander,


There are two basic types of 3 phase generators. (referring to the inducing fields type)


1- Revolving Armature is a 3 Single Phase Coils, overlapped but wound separated  by 120º (Single Phase)...requires slip rings to output 3 phases PLUS  Slip Rings to feed the 3 single phase currents...(used the least)


2- Revolving Field Generator...which is a DC Field, the typical and mostly used...


Info  from link below...


THREE PHASE GENERATOR WORKING

Cheers

Ufopolitics

Ufo,
Scroll down that link you give and click on the path to this:

"Synchronous Generator Working Principle"

Read there and you will see the author refer to the rotating magnetic field produced by the stator, armature in this case. Quoting him, or her;
"The stator currents produce a rotating magnetic field in the airgap of the generator that rotates at synchronous speed. In essence, the generator has two rotating magnetic fields, one due to the rotation of the rotor field and one due to the MMF of the stator windings."
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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #314 on: April 06, 2022, 03:44:04 AM »
If you read WO 2018/134233 A2 you see that he actually pushes the electrons in the flat solid state stator and get DC out.
The MU metal shield is important to.
Its more like a accelerator think CERN.
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