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Author Topic: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world  (Read 439288 times)

Floor

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #210 on: March 29, 2022, 01:13:34 PM »
I'm not objecting to the explaining of principles of operation, but to say that such and such
"really works", when that "such and such" is already a common and established principle or
method of operation can / seems to imply that there is O.U. there. There is no reason to think such ?

Virtually rotating magnetic polarities and three phase electricity are interesting wangles, for
sure and they "really work" / can be more efficient than other options in various applications.

I'm inclined to say 'so what'... and again ask,  is this Holcomb device topic, about increased efficiency
or O.U. exploration ?   

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #211 on: March 29, 2022, 02:13:32 PM »

1. To get the same result it is simpler to use a slip ring AC motor , no need for your setup  :D
Slip Ring Induction Motor - Construction, Working and Its Speed Control (elprocus.com)
Slip ring Induction Motor, How it works? - YouTube


Or even simpler, just use typical squirrel cage induction motor and connect  running capacitors in triangle  and rotate it.  You will get the same thing, AC output.
Cheers,
Pix




Hello Pix,


Thanks for the suggestion, and that YT Video 3D Graphs were awesome, beautifully done...I am going to make something similar in graphics so it would be clearly understood.


However, It will simply NOT work as you are mentioning.


I still see you are not getting it right....you keep anchored to Constant Rotation of Three Phase AC Fields...it won't do it like that


I will repeat myself (again)


There MUST BE COMMUTATION (ALTERNATED SWITCHING) of the SERIES-PARALLEL Coils TO SPIN the DC Magnetic Fields!!


It is Not just to feed Coils continuously through slip rings...no matter if AC or DC feeding.


And so, I do NOT need to rotate the rotor...just the magnetic fields, man!!


But, look, I am making the whole thing so you ALL could watch it in your screens...the real thing...


Just a very small little motor would be rotating huge magnetic fields by COMMUTATION of a Symmetrical winding, found in any Universal Motor...


However, I will wind it myself, from a blank armature core...just to make sure the field width is exactly the same as the Generator Stator Fields...


I will not keep arguing with you or anyone else...until I show you ALL what I mean.




Regards




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Floor

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #212 on: March 29, 2022, 02:54:54 PM »
floor,do You think probably in an EMP-magnet and its MMP-output and in-/out-put ratio  or Eta ?
Applied Biot-Savart-/Ampere-/Laplace law !?
WIPO : inventor Dr.res naturalis Pavel Imris,CSc

             or Andreas Schenk,applicant Max Planck Institut fuer Festkoerperphysik (Dresden)

Charles Gilbert Page and Garfield Jr A Wood and Hector :

rotoverter              transverter                ?
rotatory                 translatory              linear   

theme terms : beam,trajection

wmbr
OCWL


@Lanka

I don't want to discuss EMP tech. its weaponry, but also not O.U. .

I'm looking for how to do what can be done with permanent magnets, but
with out the permanent magnets. 

 If Holcomb's device is O.U., maybe it is closely related in some principles ?
Holcomb describes various of his devices but I do not think he understands their
O.U. functioning. 
                   Does his device really work ?  Why ?

Every event is mystical when we look deeply enough into it.  Intuition is the common
denominator in all communication.  The symbols / words when also held in common,
facilitate connection to specific areas of the brain, having to do with speech / make
thought accessible to convention and to conventional brain storage / memory...

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #213 on: March 29, 2022, 03:05:47 PM »



Hello Pix,


Thanks for the suggestion, and that YT Video 3D Graphs were awesome, beautifully done...I am going to make something similar in graphics so it would be clearly understood.


However, It will simply NOT work as you are mentioning.


I still see you are not getting it right....you keep anchored to Constant Rotation of Three Phase AC Fields...it won't do it like that


I will repeat myself (again)


There MUST BE COMMUTATION (ALTERNATED SWITCHING) of the SERIES-PARALLEL Coils TO SPIN the DC Magnetic Fields!!


It is Not just to feed Coils continuously through slip rings...no matter if AC or DC feeding.


And so, I do NOT need to rotate the rotor...just the magnetic fields, man!!


But, look, I am making the whole thing so you ALL could watch it in your screens...the real thing...


Just a very small little motor would be rotating huge magnetic fields by COMMUTATION of a Symmetrical winding, found in any Universal Motor...


However, I will wind it myself, from a blank armature core...just to make sure the field width is exactly the same as the Generator Stator Fields...


I will not keep arguing with you or anyone else...until I show you ALL what I mean.




Regards




Ufopolitics

Hello Ufo,

Pix is correct/you are mistaken. His video does a nice explanation. This "rotating magnetic field" in the 3-phase stator is what I've been attempting to show you for years. It may be difficult to grasp at first, but is quite eloquent. It is in fact a constant magnitude (as you call DC) magnetic field which travels in space (and steel) with stationary apparatus. No physical motion required, just polyphase AC applied to the winding.
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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #214 on: March 29, 2022, 03:15:27 PM »


There MUST BE COMMUTATION (ALTERNATED SWITCHING) of the SERIES-PARALLEL Coils TO SPIN the DC Magnetic Fields!!


It is Not just to feed Coils continuously through slip rings...no matter if AC or DC feeding.


And so, I do NOT need to rotate the rotor...just the magnetic fields, man!!

Regards

Ufopolitics


Ufo, you don't need to rotate anything.
I already mentioned it many times - in Slip Ring AC motor when you LOCK rotor from rotating, and feed 3 balanced sinusoidal signals to the slip rings, you will have ecactly what you want to achieve with your commutator,slip rings and a small motor: rotating DC magnetic vector.
Such locked rotor situation is a TRANSFORMER.
And it doesn't matter which way you are going to rotate DC magnetic vector- by your slip rings and small motor, or by use of balanced 3 phase signal- LENZ law apply.
And no OU there.


Cheers,
Pix

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #215 on: March 29, 2022, 03:43:18 PM »

Ufo, you don't need to rotate anything.
I already mentioned it many times - in Slip Ring AC motor when you LOCK rotor from rotating, and feed 3 balanced sinusoidal signals to the slip rings, you will have ecactly what you want to achieve with your commutator,slip rings and a small motor: rotating DC magnetic vector.
Such locked rotor situation is a TRANSFORMER.
And it doesn't matter which way you are going to rotate DC magnetic vector- by your slip rings and small motor, or by use of balanced 3 phase signal- LENZ law apply.
And no OU there.


Cheers,
Pix


Thanks Pix,


In my setup, I do not need to go and find any EXTERNAL Three Phase balanced sinusoidal signals...I will generate them, I can make single phase, two phase or three phase and very well balanced...depending on the Generator Core and coils utilized.




I am going to start off a Single Phase Generator Head, built from factory windings first, without OEM Rotor, to make things simple to "digest"...and you know every single phase genny comes with two outputs, one Main AC and a secondary pair of coils which are typically connected to a running cap...right?


Well, those two secondary coils and cap are in charge to induce rotor coils back in a normal rotary generator...correct so far?


This is the famous "loop back" that takes place in the Excitation System (Stator Secondaries>Running Cap-Rotor Coils>Closed circuit with Diodes) of every Brushless Generator out there....


I will show you in real time, that after having the fields rotating, and adding the right input to exciter stationary coils in order that secondary start generating induced EMF...then... ;D


You will see how I get that running cap terminals and plug them into the Input of Stationary Rotor...then disconnect the power in (PSU) to Stationary Rotor and it will not collapse...it will keep feeding itself.


How is that to start a demonstration here?...


Just give me the time to set it all up...need to get a lot of stuff together first...then build, build and build...


However, I will be migrating all into a Moderated Thread...and you will see it all there...promise man!!




Cheers...We got it bro!!




Ufopolitics



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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #217 on: March 29, 2022, 03:59:31 PM »

Hello to All,



Let me be straight and right to the point here...




I know everything about the history of "Loopers" in the past...and it never ends right and well.


I will NOT hide ANY "secrets" from anyone who is willing to replicate my design...as I am NOT planning to Patent nothing...


However, I do need "Protection"...but wait...do not get disappointed... :)


My "Protection" will be that as many of you as possible, are successfull in replicating my setup, BUT, in exchange, I will ask you to SHARE IT WORLD WIDE and as fast as you could!!


IT NEEDS TO BE WIDE SPREAD AND VIRAL...ASAP!!


I have more than 7000 subscribers in my YT Channel...But not enough...it needs to be spread fast and viral...




That's all folks




Regards




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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #218 on: March 29, 2022, 04:05:18 PM »
Hey Pix,


Man, did you finally take the same stuff that Ianca is taking?...LOL  ;D


Just checking...




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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #219 on: March 29, 2022, 06:10:02 PM »
Just rotating the poles will not provided good induction in the three phase output coils. The poles must have a variable flux as they rotate. He claims that he  achieves this via the inner coils which have a variable amplitude flux over the three active coils in each pole (shown in the patent).


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #220 on: March 29, 2022, 06:55:58 PM »
@Ufopolitics et al


Some points I would like to make:


1. The driver circuits that are in that particular patent are nothing special as far as I can tell (correct me if I am wrong). It's a simple bidirectional coil driver (similar to what a bidirectional motor driver looks like). Nevertheless, from his patents (and I have read all of the most relevant ones now) it appears Holcom doesn't understand where his excess energy is coming from, repeatedly stating electron spin in electrical steel, high permittivity etc as the explanation. That is not the cause, as we know it takes energy (B*H which is the area under the hysteresis curve) to magnetize and demagnetize material and there is no gain in that). But maybe he states that because he really doesn't know and probably had to give some explanation in the patent (after all he is not an electrical engineer; I believe was a medical doctor in the past). Looking at how detailed his patents are, I don't believe he is deliberately steering someone in the wrong direction.


2. If you take a look at the old Pierre Cotnoir's DZ generator threads, you will see Pierre was using a similar scheme of a rotating magnetic field generated by DC currents, but with relays instead of FETs. Although Pierre's device seemed to work from his videos, nobody has been able to replicate it.


3. I believe that the reason that Holcombs device works is because he has found a way to circumvent BEMF from coupling back into the rotor driving coils. I am not so sure if he actually understands that that is what he has done as he keeps on stating no BEMF because the rotor is fixed, but that's not the reason why it works. The reason it works is because the BEMF is diverted and doesn't make its way back to the driving coils. I will need to confirm what I think is happening with some calculations to be 100% sure, but based on what I can picture in my head so far, it should work that way.


Lastly, with respect to noise on this thread, indeed a lot of random noise (no need to state a name here) so I am all for a moderated thread. But please don't censor anyone if they have a different opinion or shoot down someone else's explanation with sound reasoning. A healthy discussion benefits all as long as it is polite and explained with reasoning (so no name calling, insults and things of that sort please).


My two cents, PmgR




This would be my take on how OU is acheived with this device, BEMF circumvention via the three phase stator core. A reproduction of the magnetics in FEMM would allow the coupling factors to be verified both ways between the energizing coils and the output coils. It is also noteworthy that one patent implementation has an additional stator core between the inner core and the output core. This has no windings.


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #221 on: March 29, 2022, 07:45:03 PM »
@L192


Yes that inner part with no windings is visible in the simulation in his video, yet not in the real device. The only thing I can think of is that it is expanding the poles of the very inner rotor so they spread a larger area to avoid saturation. I have to dug into this a bit more to see if there is another reason.


Update
The configuration for his simulation image is actually a stator-double rotor-stator-rotor configuration, but same operating principle, all rotor fields re-inforcing themselves. Only reason this is done is to increase the power output.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #222 on: March 29, 2022, 08:09:16 PM »
Just rotating the poles will not provided good induction in the three phase output coils. The poles must have a variable flux as they rotate. He claims that he  achieves this via the inner coils which have a variable amplitude flux over the three active coils in each pole (shown in the patent).


L192


Lenz law still apply. 
It applies for rotation ( motor/generator action).
It applies for flux intensity variation ( transformer action).


Cheers,
Pix

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #223 on: March 29, 2022, 08:12:50 PM »
Hey Pix,


Man, did you finally take the same stuff that Ianca is taking?...LOL  ;D


Just checking...


Ufopolitics


Didn't took any stuff in my life.  :)

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #224 on: March 29, 2022, 08:33:14 PM »
@L192:


Does the constant Rotating Magnetic Field on a Typical 1,2,3 Phase Rotary Generator ever fluctuate (Variable Flux amplitude)?


@Pix:


 I was joking about what you wrote before..."taking  same stuff as Ianca in order to understand him"... :)




Cheers




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