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Author Topic: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world  (Read 118884 times)

Offline pix

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #45 on: March 22, 2022, 07:16:37 PM »
@pmgr
All true , but how this would apply for Holcomb?
Tesla did modified homopolar generator, where you have stationary magnetic field and rotating disc.
The only thing Tesla did was enlarging stationary magnet to cover whole rotating disc ( better efficiency) and cut disc into sections , avoiding circular currents because the only current path we are looking is fron disc centre outwards. Tesla was perfectionist.
In Holcomb we have rotating magnetic field ( from 3 phase motor armature)and some exotic explanations regarding unpaired electrons inside ferromagnetic material.
What striked me most is his "discovery"  that ferromagnetic material amplifies weak magnetic field acting upon it.
Primary school pupil is teached about it.
This rings a warning bell in my head about Holcomb.


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #46 on: March 23, 2022, 08:38:09 AM »
Please read the attached European patent application from 2019 which on page 8 describes the mechanism for the excess energy.


The summary of it is as follows:


He uses rotor coils to align the magnetic domains inside of the electrical steel and he says that the energy required to do this is little. The generated magnetic flux from the aligned domains is however much stronger (and carries much more energy) than what was required to polarize the magnetic domains into the right orientation (e.g. a north or a south pole).


The stator then converts this strong magnetic flux into a voltage/current that can be used to power a load and part of the stator output can be fed back to the rotor driving electronics to provide the little energy that was required to align the magnetic domains to either a north or south pole.


So basically he is saying, he is magnetizing electrical steel to form a north or south pole and this north/south pole, once formed, can provide more magnetic flux than the flux of the current that was required to align the magnetic domains.


Any physicists that can shed some light on whether this is possible? From everything I know, it takes energy to magnetize a piece of steel and to demagnetize it or flip the magnetic domains in the other direction. I have never seen a piece of steel being magnetized and the magnetic strength being larger than the magnetic field that was generated by the current that magnetized the steel.


And if this were really the case, why don't we see this with a regular transformer? Also, there should still be BEMF from the stator coils working back onto the rotor coils, just like in a transformer. Maybe after the rotor current is switched off, the steel will remain magnetized for a short period of time, but the BEMF from the stator coils would oppose that magnetization and try to flip the magnetic domains in the other direction.


Please post your thoughts...

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #47 on: March 23, 2022, 11:16:25 AM »

So basically he is saying, he is magnetizing electrical steel to form a north or south pole and this north/south pole, once formed, can provide more magnetic flux than the flux of the current that was required to align the magnetic domains.


Any physicists that can shed some light on whether this is possible? From everything I know, it takes energy to magnetize a piece of steel and to demagnetize it or flip the magnetic domains in the other direction. I have never seen a piece of steel being magnetized and the magnetic strength being larger than the magnetic field that was generated by the current that magnetized the steel.


And if this were really the case, why don't we see this with a regular transformer? Also, there should still be BEMF from the stator coils working back onto the rotor coils, just like in a transformer. Maybe after the rotor current is switched off, the steel will remain magnetized for a short period of time, but the BEMF from the stator coils would oppose that magnetization and try to flip the magnetic domains in the other direction.



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Those kind of things you should hear in primary and secondary school at physics lessons.
1. It is well known that ferromagnetic materials greatly amplify magnetic field acting upon them. It is called magnetic relative permeability.  Please see attached magnetising curve of soft ferromagnetic material.
2. As you could see on this graph, first part of it, vertical is nonlinear and a weak external magnetic field 0.1-0.2mT creates a strong response inside ferromagnetic material 1000-1500mT. Further to the right magnetization line is going more horizontal- this is called "saturation" area. Increase of external magnetic field causes less amplified response from the ferromagnetic material. This "saturation" region is a place where common transformer works.
3.Relative Permeability of certain magnetic material gives you amplification  of applied external magnetic field. For example for an iron core it is 200, for a permalloy it is 8000, for mumetal it is 20000.
4. Magnetic field amplification by ferromagnetic materials , or "gain" is  widely utilised everywhere: in electromagnetic solenoids, in Current Transformers, in Flyback and Boost converters ect.


So, my friend. Holcomb didn't invent anything new. This is a basic physics knowledge at least from a two centuries.


Ferromagnetism (gsu.edu)
Magnetic Properties of Solids (gsu.edu)


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #48 on: March 23, 2022, 03:05:26 PM »
No, Holcomb didn’t invent magnetic field gain. If he’s for real then what he has invented is a way to utilize the magnetic gain without reflecting the load back to the primary windings.

I’ve spent this last winter experimenting with gain from magnetic flux. I can tell you this much, gain can be had by avoiding counter emf (Lenz) produced by secondary windings during the magnetization phase of the core primary windings. Ordinary transformers and ordinary generators do not do this.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #49 on: March 23, 2022, 03:56:09 PM »
No, Holcomb didn’t invent magnetic field gain. If he’s for real then what he has invented is a way to utilize the magnetic gain without reflecting the load back to the primary windings.

I’ve spent this last winter experimenting with gain from magnetic flux. I can tell you this much, gain can be had by avoiding counter emf (Lenz) produced by secondary windings during the magnetization phase of the core primary windings. Ordinary transformers and ordinary generators do not do this.

Cadman
Who is saying that transformers or generators are doing this?

Flyback converter is doing this.
Boost converter is doing this.
Joule Tchief is doing this .
Cheers,
Pix


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #50 on: March 23, 2022, 04:56:17 PM »
Who is saying that transformers or generators are doing this?

Flyback converter is doing this.
Boost converter is doing this.
Joule Tchief is doing this .
Cheers,
Pix
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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #51 on: March 23, 2022, 04:57:32 PM »
Who is saying that transformers or generators are doing this?
I said ordinary transformers or generators are not doing this

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Flyback converter is doing this.
Boost converter is doing this.
Joule Tchief is doing this .
Cheers,
Pix
Are they? Completely? Think carefully before answering.

And while you think about it, ask yourself if this was really the most salient point in my previous post.

Cheers to you too.


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #52 on: March 23, 2022, 05:18:31 PM »
Cadman,does He not shake the " principles of thermodynamic building " to write about
" energy is  ..... "

" energy is not ..... "

expand-/compress -

multification-/diminuation -

                                                                able ! (?)  8) ,if ......   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmQhEuDIhy0 CONDITION/-ING !

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Without proper cooling the efficiency and reliability of these transformers and motors are considerably reduced.

Another object of this invention is to provide a cooler operating high power electrical device that is of light weight, low cost, higher power density, and highly efficient design.

    These and other objectives are obtained by placing thermal conductive strips between the turn layers along the axis and perpendicular to the turns of an high power electrical device, such as a transformer or motor, which extends outside of the windings or between the laminates of the core.
The excess heat is conducted outward from the interior of the device along the strips to the outside of the device's windings where it is extracted from the protrusions by means of a highly thermal-conductive potting compound that has a short thermal path to a small heat sink.
"........   an anisotropec material that is highly efficient in conducting heat along the fiber orientation which is unidirectional.  .....

" ...... This invention allows for the reduction in size of a high power transformers by a factor of 4 to 8 and a reduction in weight by a factor of 4 to 6, and an increase in power density by 5 to 10 in power. The efficiency of the transformer is improved by maximizing the heat transfer from the transformers interior and minimizing voltage breakdown. ...... "


" ........ therefore a control device such as a timer (not shown) or thermal switch (not shown) may be integrated into the transformer 20 package to either increase the thermal conductivity or decrease it by switching the thermocooler on or off, as desired. ...... "
Although this embodiment has been described in relation to an exemplary device such as a transformer, the claimed invention may equally well be utilized in other types of electrical devices where internal heat is a problem, such as motors, modulation transformers, etc. The size of the transformer is not of concern, it may vary from a small transformer used in switching power supplies to power transformers used in electrical distribution systems. Further, the frequency of the electrical current within the devices to be cooled is irrelevant, e.g., 60 cycles to 400 cycles operate the same thermally. High frequency transformers have higher copper losses due to skin effects. This additional heat may also be removed by the thermally conductive strip as set forth in this invention.

    When applied to electrical motors 30, as shown in FIG. 5a, pieces of thermally conductive strip 16 are placed between windings of the motor 30 or interleaved into vertically stacked motor laminations 32, as shown in FIG. 5b. The internal heat from the motor laminations 32 and windings 36 is conducted from the interior of the motor 30 to the outer portions where the heat is then dissipated through the motor case 34 to ambient atmosphere.


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #53 on: March 23, 2022, 05:29:26 PM »
Hello to All,


With all due respect about your expertise on Magnetic Fields and Induction-Induced Fields...


You keep pounding on existing -up to now- Technologies...and yes, Dr Holcomb keeps repeating something we all know...about Steel Properties related to  magnetism amplification...yes, We all know that.


IMHO what He has reached is a way to rotate a DC MAGNETIC FIELD, NOT an AC Field which is rotating just by turning it ON...


HOWEVER, the way an AC Magnetic Field "rotates" is completely DIFFERENT from a Rotating DC Magnetic Field.


And so, actually, an AC Field does NOT actually, physically rotates, but only "Flashes" N-S at a rate of 60 to 50 Hertz...generating the spinning feeling if we insert a metal "Egg" or a Laminated Steel Rotor, it will definitively spin a steel mass. (Tesla Induction AC Motors, 1896-98)


There are many inventors who have played with this scenario of "VIRTUALLY SPINNING DC FIELDS"...I have been also conducting experiments related to this way to induce an Electric Output by Rotating DC Fields...for many years back...


Figuera, back in the early 1900's had Patented his way to achieve this...


Steve Marks, has also played with this...


And many many more...


If You go to this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm1VJ65LcXM


At exactly 0:45 on...you will see an animation of what Dr Holcomb has achieved...a Rotating DC Magnetic Field...including a GRADIENT (Fade IN, Fade OUT) of the Magnetic Fields...


This can be done whether by mechanical commutating controls or by Electronics...FET's...with atenuation circuits to achieve the Fade Effect...


AC Rotating Magnetic Fields will NEVER, EVER, generate this effect...much less, the Fade Effect, Plus the OVERLAPPING Effect.


A simple example of a typical DC Exciter BUT actually moving physically the Magnetic Fields, we can see in a simple Single Phase Brushless Generator...where the Inducing Rotor is comprised by a CLOSED CIRCUIT (Closed by TWO DIODES) of just TWO COILS , generating a North and a South Pole at 180º...and having another CLOSED CIRCUIT COILS at Stator (with an AC Running Capacitor), exclusively to keep Inducing the Exciter Coils at Rotor...


Now, Diodes are there to convert the Induced AC into DC Current at Rotor, which keeps a steady NS-NS polarization of rotor steel core.


This Rotor will not generate nada, if we take off the diodes...just because it would be AC Flashes of magnetic polarization...not inducing nada at Output Stator Coils.


So, what I believe Dr Holcomb has achieved is a way to rotate the DC MAGNETIC FIELDS, with GRADIENT EFFECT, without PHYSICALLY moving the Steel Rotor itself...


Again, I will repeat myself...many has published his findings before...but no one has been able to replicate it...and there must be a specific type of DC Controllers behind these Patents, not explained at all...which are the "secret" behind these disclosed "Breakthrough Invention"...


I am pretty sure, there has to exist another Patent, somewhere, protecting this KEY device, and maybe not even under his name...and not even related to "Energy Induced Generation"...but simply "A New or Novel Type of DC Controller"...




Those are my Two cents here...




Regards to All.




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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #54 on: March 23, 2022, 05:42:04 PM »
I can tell you this much, gain can be had by avoiding counter emf (Lenz) produced by secondary windings during the magnetization phase of the core primary windings[/size]


That's exactly what flyback converter is doing  :)

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #55 on: March 23, 2022, 05:43:51 PM »
Hello again,


Any typical generation of electricity, will require a Delta Flux over a Delta Time, or a Variation of Flux over Time in order to work...
(Faraday Induction Formula), look at it again...


Over generations we have tried to figure out a way to "cheat" this formula...by "virtually" rotating the "Invisible" Magnetic Fields alone, without moving the Steel Core nor the Coils from the Rotor...


And also simulating the "Fade Effect" of approximation as moving further away of just the Magnetic Fields...which is in charge to Induce a very smooth AC Sine Wave at Output...


We all know, the day we achieve this scenario...well, this is it...we will have Free Energy.


Unfortunately, Dr Holcomb is not sharing how he achieves this Virtual Spinning of the DC Magnetic Fields...He just explains "the Theory", and , well,  we all know it could be done...for many years, but no one has been able to reproduce it, so far.




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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #56 on: March 23, 2022, 06:14:42 PM »
@Ufopolitics
3 phase sinusoidal signal creates rotating DC field.


Space vectors of 3-phase sinusoidal signals (umn.edu)
Three-phase space vectors (umn.edu)


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #57 on: March 23, 2022, 06:49:18 PM »

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...3 phase sinusoidal signal creates rotating DC field.



@Pix,


Sorry, Nope, you are not generating a true rotating DC Magnetic Field.


In order to generate a True Rotating DC Magnetic Field (note I was referring here to Magnetic Field, and not referring to a DC Electric Field!!


First, to get a DC Magnetic Field we need a FLAT Positive or Negative Wave on Scope...then a smooth up or down slope to simulate the Fade Effect at leave and approach.


It looks like a chopped (Flat on Top) Pyramid...then it needs to be alternating between Positive side and Negative side...


So, No, AC Sinewave will never generate a DC Magnetic Field, just because it does not stays Flat whether pos or neg, so, the DC Magnetic Field does not get to generate...


I have been playing with this for decades...


I hope you understand what am referring to, without storming this Thread too much...as I  got "plenty" of proof...related to what I'm talking about...and nope, it is not "conventional knowledge" that you could find "online"...




Cheers




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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #58 on: March 23, 2022, 06:53:46 PM »
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@Pix,


Sorry, Nope, you are not generating a true rotating DC Magnetic Field.


In order to generate a True Rotating DC Magnetic Field (note I was referring here to Magnetic Field, and not referring to a DC Electric Field!!

Ufopolitics


You are saying that in 3 phase electric motor it is DC electric field rotating?  :o

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #59 on: March 23, 2022, 06:58:16 PM »

You are saying that in 3 phase electric motor it is DC electric field rotating?  :o
;D https://overunity.com/19040/permanent-magnet-assisted-motor-coil-designs/msg564903/#new

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