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Author Topic: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world  (Read 121204 times)

Offline bistander

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #900 on: July 05, 2022, 06:55:59 AM »
So doesn't this lesson on ferromagnetic material and inductance explain why the input current goes way up when Ufo slows down the RMF?
It's like applying too high voltage (or too low frequency) to a transformer.
Referred to as the proper V/f ratio (volts per hertz) for the winding design. Use a V/f ratio too high and current input goes up in a hurry with little, if any, benefit.
bi
« Last Edit: July 05, 2022, 04:08:06 PM by bistander »

Offline rakarskiy

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #901 on: July 05, 2022, 07:09:04 AM »
Rakarskiy
It's an interesting and popular theory however I always had serious reservations because of the reasoning involved.

Adding a steel core, more so a closed core, can concentrate the magnetic field increasing the efficiency of induction over an air or open core coil. However this is not a gain in energy, were simply utilizing more of the energy already present and wasting less as heat and other losses.

As well, calculations are problematic which is why I do experiments. I wanted to understand the very thing in question many years ago so I used an Arduino/Labview and voltage, current and a hall effect sensors to graph and analyze various coil and transformer setups. That is analyze the real time magnetic field strength versus voltage, current and energy input.

Which led me to believe many were barking up the wrong tree and using ambiguous simulation/calculations instead of real experiments. As the saying goes, knowing what doesn't work can save us a lot of time and help us move in a more productive direction.

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AC

Теория?!!! Интересно, какое у вас образование?
Это не теория, это отрасль науки и инженерного проектирования.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_circuit
 
Find a branch of science that studies the magnetic properties of materials that change with time.
It’s just that there is magnetostatics, but how strongly it is presented on Wikipedia:

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetostatics

 :) :D ;D ;)

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #902 on: July 05, 2022, 07:20:41 AM »
So doesn't this lesson on ferromagnetic material and inductance explain why the input current goes away up when Ufo slows down the RMF?
It's like applying too high voltage (or too low frequency) to a transformer.
Referred to as the proper V/f ratio (volts per hertz) for the winding design. Use a V/f ratio too high and current input goes up in a hurry with little, if any, benefit.
bi

It is explained by an elementary dependence, the greater the speed, the greater the EMF:

E = B * L * V (m/s);    or    E =  4 * k *w * f(Hz) * B * S;  where: k - winding coefficient (0.8-0.9); w - the number of turns; The rest of the designations, I hope, do not need to be specified!

If you can make calculations using these formulas, for example, the EMF on the UFOpolitik generator, you will get the same result when you know exactly what the rotating field in the generator stator is.

Offline kolbacict

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #903 on: July 05, 2022, 08:53:30 AM »
Let's see what i found "хрень" ! БД-160А  ;)
https://s1.slide-share.ru/s_slide/73ce0ef531679a5779095155213e63bb/a36e6607-2345-4571-ac04-6bdd3c934d64.jpeg
Three phase stator and one phase rotor by circular transformer.
Will it go?

p.s.
https://youtube.com/shorts/7hn7UOeC75E?feature=share
« Last Edit: July 05, 2022, 12:57:05 PM by kolbacict »

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #904 on: July 05, 2022, 03:01:16 PM »
So doesn't this lesson on ferromagnetic material and inductance explain why the input current goes away up when Ufo slows down the RMF?
It's like applying too high voltage (or too low frequency) to a transformer.
Referred to as the proper V/f ratio (volts per hertz) for the winding design. Use a V/f ratio too high and current input goes up in a hurry with little, if any, benefit.
bi

Hello Bistander,

First, would like to correct maybe a typo?...when you wrote the bold (by me) statement above: "the input current goes away up"
Maybe you meant: the input current goes way up...

It's like applying too high voltage (or too low frequency) to a transformer.

I rather go for the second one: lowering the frequency...since I did not apply too high voltage. This Rotor winding could take up to 100 + Volts...and like 2 Amps.
Unfortunately I do not have a PSU that can increase Voltage up to 100-150 Volts...

But, regardless of lowering frequency or speed of Field...Isn't this the same exact response that takes place when we force-stop mechanically the shaft of any brushed (whether Universal or PM) motor while running at full speed plus loaded mechanically?

And I will go to another example...a running and loaded generator...so, let's say something went "south" with the ICE and all the sudden, shaft stopped turning while running loaded, or even went below operational speed to very low rotation...also, let's assume the AVR did not respond in time...what happens then?

Definitively power goes completely off...but beyond that...what happens with all that high amperage retained at stator coils, not "pumping out"?

So, if I were to compare this situations, I rather use a "Liquid Pump" for comparison:

Say a pump running any liquid at high pressures, and all the sudden its propeller stops turning?
All this rush of high pressure liquid, accumulates right at the Intake (Input) gate...while the output stays empty...as stopped propeller blocks flow from  going through...like a closed valve.

I will tell you about another completely opposite "anomaly" that took place on the other side...the Output.

The Input amperage went very low, like 0.68 Amps...and Output Amps went from 4, 5 to 6 Amps...while output voltage dropped down radically...and lamp went off...it happened because a "malfunction" of the rotary switch, where some brushes (out of the four I have) started arcing too much by separation and motor went to too high speed (because friction was released)...

I then slowed motor down and everything went back to normal...but I kept playing with it...to find exactly the reason...

What do you think about it?

Regards


Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #905 on: July 05, 2022, 04:34:58 PM »
Ufo,
I corrected away ---> way. Thanks.

It is the V/f ratio that's important. I realize you didn't increase voltage input.

In the pump, when mechanical input stops, pressure stops, right?

When your commutator malfunctioned, perhaps the input resistance increased causing reduced input current. And consequential distortion of RMF caused bucking induced potentials meaning low output voltage.

You did an excellent experiment but I fail to see an extraordinary result.
bi

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #906 on: July 05, 2022, 05:17:59 PM »
Ufo,
I corrected away ---> way. Thanks.
My pleasure

It is the V/f ratio that's important. I realize you didn't increase voltage input.
No, I did not increase input voltage, I only decreased Input Voltage to Rotary Switch small motor...and that was it.

In the pump, when mechanical input stops, pressure stops, right?
Not so fast...any pump generates two pressures, a called "negative" or suction at input, and an exhaust or "positive" at pump output...and so, every system in  our universe tries always to stabilize...whether natural or man made...unless it is forced to do otherwise.
In the example I mentioned before, when propelling mechanisms stop, yes positive (output) pressure drops...but negative (Input) pressure increases.

When your commutator malfunctioned, perhaps the input resistance increased causing reduced input current. And consequential distortion of RMF caused bucking induced potentials meaning low output voltage.

I understood perfectly well the drop off voltage...but, what about that excess of output amperage in the range of the 5 and 6 amps, while at 0.68A at Input?...where did they come from?

You did an excellent experiment but I fail to see an extraordinary result.
bi

Maybe you will like better my next two test videos...


Regards


Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #907 on: July 05, 2022, 10:25:26 PM »
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I understood perfectly well the drop off voltage...but, what about that excess of output amperage in the range of the 5 and 6 amps, while at 0.68A at Input?...where did they come from?
...
Regards

Ufopolitics

You're saying, with the same load, the load voltage goes down and load current goes up when something occurred on the input?
Sounds fishy. Can you get a video of it happening?
bi

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #908 on: July 05, 2022, 10:53:39 PM »
You're saying, with the same load, the load voltage goes down and load current goes up when something occurred on the input?
Sounds fishy. Can you get a video of it happening?
bi
Fishy?
Do you think I am altering something?
There was a malfunction on the brushes...switching motor speed increased beyond my control (while I was tunning it up), output V dropped radically, bulb went off, and output amperage reached the 6.06 amps
Watch images...

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #909 on: July 05, 2022, 11:09:23 PM »
As...


I do not call this image below an "anomaly"...just because by the lighting of Bulb, it is obvious Voltage dropped down and amperage rised up...above unity (1.10Amp above, to be more specific), if you look at Input Amps at the blue screen.


Cheers


Ufopolitics


P.D: I will upload that full video unedited tomorrow on my Thread...I am just giving time for viewers to watch the one uploaded today...but it is already on my YouTube Channel
If you want to watch it...right at the exact time where it starts doing these anomalies go to 12:12

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #910 on: July 05, 2022, 11:21:30 PM »
Hey Ufo,
I'm not accusing you of anything. Photos show a wire (test lead) passing through the clamp ammeter then to one terminal of the lamp. Lamp appears off. Meter reads ~ 6 amps. Assumption is that lamp typically glows at 6A or less.

That's fishy, meaning something unusual is happening. What do you think it is? Did you put another ammeter on/in the circuit to check? What was the ammeter reading when the test lead was unclipped from the lamp? Heavy solar activity that day? Invisible light from the lamp? Is it repeatable? Does the lamp operate normally elsewhere? Is the battery in the ammeter fresh? File it under unexplainable or do a press release to claim overunity. Good luck.
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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #911 on: July 05, 2022, 11:24:28 PM »
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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #912 on: July 05, 2022, 11:29:56 PM »
Hey Ufo,
I'm not accusing you of anything. Photos show a wire (test lead) passing through the clamp ammeter then to one terminal of the lamp. Lamp appears off. Meter reads ~ 6 amps. Assumption is that lamp typically glows at 6A or less.

Nope, negative, this 120V/60Watts Lamp will not even dim at 6A and 7.0 Volts AC...

That's fishy, meaning something unusual is happening. What do you think it is? Did you put another ammeter on/in the circuit to check? What was the ammeter reading when the test lead was unclipped from the lamp? Heavy solar activity that day? Invisible light from the lamp? Is it repeatable? Does the lamp operate normally elsewhere? Is the battery in the ammeter fresh? File it under unexplainable or do a press release to claim overunity. Good luck.
bi
Ok,
 ;D ...I have not claimed OU...it is not, let's just call it "an anomaly".
Later, am done for today.

And you know what?...I just remember, I have a video taken around 6 or 7 years ago...where something similar took place, related to amperage increase over input, but voltage was too low, when I was collapsing the field...and I uploaded it, then...but I believe it was unlisted...have to look for it.

tomorrow

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #913 on: July 05, 2022, 11:53:04 PM »
Hey Ufo
What do you think it is?
bi

It is simply showing me the way to achieve this same effect in a more "controlable" way...
Remember I built that Rotary switch from scratch...
Later



Offline Jimboot

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #914 on: July 06, 2022, 02:06:38 AM »
It is simply showing me the way to achieve this same effect in a more "controlable" way...
Remember I built that Rotary switch from scratch...
Later
Nice work! My halogen will not light at all on 24VAC power supply. Adding more capacitance on the stator side increases the brightness. Have you tried different lamp types? Thanks for the share.