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Author Topic: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world  (Read 121203 times)

Offline rakarskiy

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #885 on: July 04, 2022, 08:56:08 AM »
rakarskiy
You did a really good job on that article.

This is a common theme and countless inventors have claimed it's a transformer but not a transformer. As well, as you pointed out, almost all of these inventors had no idea where the energy was coming from. We know it must come from somewhere however it remains a mystery...

Regards
AC

Interesting question, isn't it! And where does the energy in a traditional mechanical synchronous generator come from?

Once again, I recommend reading and understanding!
https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/06/magnetization-of-steel-magnetic.html

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #886 on: July 04, 2022, 10:20:24 AM »
I ask, is a single-phase electric motor with not three, but with two windings and a phase-shifting capacitor suitable for your experiments?
Similar to the Soviet  "СД-54" ?

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #887 on: July 04, 2022, 10:29:37 AM »
My current measurements are definitely wrong. I need a variac but in the meantime I'll resort to excess heat measurements. The lamp should be easy but the power supply a little trickier. I think a 10 minute duration for the tests then wait until both lamp and supply are back at room temp before conducting the next test. I have a dmm probe for the lamp and an infrared thermometer for the supply. I should be able to calibrate before hand by hitting the thermistor probe with the IR gun.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #888 on: July 04, 2022, 11:22:29 AM »
My current measurements are definitely wrong. I need a variac but in the meantime I'll resort to excess heat measurements. The lamp should be easy but the power supply a little trickier. I think a 10 minute duration for the tests then wait until both lamp and supply are back at room temp before conducting the next test. I have a dmm probe for the lamp and an infrared thermometer for the supply. I should be able to calibrate before hand by hitting the thermistor probe with the IR gun.

Jimboot, measure the heating power of the lamp, there will be even greater inaccuracies.

You need to measure all the resistances: rotor windings, generator windings, loads.
Next, the open circuit voltage of the AC voltage source; voltage at the rotor terminals when the generator is turned on with an open circuit. Rotor terminal voltage with phase load on. If there is an ammeter, the current strength at idle and with a load.

Further - the voltage at the terminals of the generator without load, the voltage at the terminals of the generator with a load, if possible, the current strength in the phase and load circuit in both inclusions.
With these data it is quite possible to determine the effectiveness of your experiment.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #889 on: July 04, 2022, 11:25:26 AM »
I ask, is a single-phase electric motor with not three, but with two windings and a phase-shifting capacitor suitable for your experiments?
Similar to the Soviet  "СД-54" ?

Use the engines for their intended purpose. For the experiment, a pair of rotor + stator from a single-phase generator is needed, which are installed in gas generators.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #890 on: July 04, 2022, 11:42:00 AM »
I ask, is a single-phase electric motor with not three, but with two windings and a phase-shifting capacitor suitable for your experiments?
Similar to the Soviet  "СД-54" ?

A 2-phase stator will give a traveling flux wave around the air gap hence it is used as an economical means for single phase applications by using a capacitor making a second phase in the stator winding. This method overcomes the zero starting torque of 1-phase induction motors. However the resulting RMF is considerably different than what is achieved using balanced 3-phase, which is a constant magnitude RMF with sinusoidal space distribution. I don't know whether the effect you're looking for is possible using a 2-phase system. When attempting to replicate, it is foolish to stray from the given formula, IMO.
Also, the cage rotor presents problems. How to measure induced parameters?
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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #891 on: July 04, 2022, 12:45:13 PM »
My current measurements are definitely wrong. I need a variac but in the meantime I'll resort to excess heat measurements. The lamp should be easy but the power supply a little trickier. I think a 10 minute duration for the tests then wait until both lamp and supply are back at room temp before conducting the next test. I have a dmm probe for the lamp and an infrared thermometer for the supply. I should be able to calibrate before hand by hitting the thermistor probe with the IR gun.

Hi Jimboot
If a drive is made, it should be isolation, in my experiments I have never been able to connect input with exit with the same circuit, there must always be an isolation.
Cheers

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #892 on: July 04, 2022, 12:53:34 PM »
Well this is what I have so far. I dont have enough meters to perform all tests at once. Turns out my power supply is drawing current without being connected to a load so possibly on it's last legs?
Light in a bottle test.


Lamp and supply temp tests


Without generator.
Start
Ambient temp 11c
Lamp 11c
Power supply 18c
At 10 mins
Ambient temp 11c
Lamp 15c
Power Supply 18.1


With generator
Start
Ambient temp 11c
Lamp 11c
Power Supply 19.1c
At 10 mins
Ambient temp 11c
Lamp 40c
Power Supply 18.9c


The lamp is in a bottle with a cap loosely fitted. I think the 4c rise in temp of the lamp in the first test is probably from the heating of conductors as the filament does not glow.





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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #893 on: July 04, 2022, 01:43:00 PM »
rakarskiy
You did a really good job on that article.
Yeah, I thought it was a myth.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #894 on: July 04, 2022, 01:52:56 PM »
For the experiment, a pair of rotor + stator from a single-phase generator is needed, which are installed in gas generators.
How are you going to create a rotating field with a single phase stator or armature?  :o

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I don't know whether the effect you're looking for is possible using a 2-phase system. When attempting to replicate, it is foolish to stray from the given formula, IMO.
Yes, it's probably not the best option.


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #895 on: July 04, 2022, 01:53:44 PM »
Yeah, I thought it was a myth.

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New York Times (Wednesday, March 7, 1928)

Priest Has Motor Run By 'Ion Energy'

Jesuit Inventor From Brazil Is Here To market Product, Now Undergoing Patent Tests ~ Not A Fuelless Machine ~ "Inter-Atomic" Force Increases Electric Battery power, He Says -- Discounts Hendershot Claims

An Italian Jesuit priest from Brazil announced here yesterday that he had invented a motor that makes use of "interatomic" energy to generate many times the power it receives originally from an electric battery. The motor is now at Washington, where it is undergoing the Patent Office investigation.

The priest is the Rev. Antonio d’Angelo, S.J., a stocky, earnest little man who combines missionary work in Brazil with tinkering in his own electrical laboratory. He speaks no English, but told of his machine through his brother, Biagio d’Angelo of 1475 LeLand Ave., the Bronx.

Father d’Angelo became interested in electricity 20 years ago when he was a student at a Jesuit seminary in Naples. A year and a half ago he was sent out by his Order to Brazil to carry on missionary work at Ribeirao Preto among the Italian emigrants. He had to get a special dispensation from Bishop Alberto Gonzales of Ribeirao Preto to visit the United States where, so his brother had written him, fortune comes more easily to the man with a money-saving device. He came here in November 1927, and has urged his Bishop to extend his leave of six months.

The missionary priest does not believe in the Hendershot "fuelless motor".

"I challenge anyone", he said yesterday, "to use the magnetic field of the earth for running a motor. The energy from that would be too small".

His motor, he said, could be used in the home to supply electric lighting cheaply, and even heating. He said that it could be used to run trains, airplanes and automobiles.

Father d’Angelo had a plan of his motor with him yesterday. He showed how it started to develop energy from an electric battery, and how this original impulse worked on the machine to generate many times its power through the "electricity produced by the inter-atomic energy of the ions".

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #896 on: July 04, 2022, 09:15:21 PM »
Hi Ufopolitics,

Great Demo, Information and Work at your "Energy Generation by moving Mag Field through Static Steel Core & Copper Coils" thread
[ https://overunity.com/19085/energy-generation-by-moving-mag-field-through-static-steel-core-copper-coils/msg568549/#msg568549 ].

Thanks for the clear overview and detailed explainations.

 
Your "STATOR 1 and STATOR 2" winding configurations are quite interesting - hope to simulate them with the Lingen as soon as some CPU
time is freed up.

This comment is posted here so as not to polute your main thread.

Looking exceptionally good IMHO! More convinced with every step of progress achieved that this is the "excess energy real deal."


SL



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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #897 on: July 04, 2022, 09:39:12 PM »
Hi Ufopolitics,

Great Demo, Information and Work at your "Energy Generation by moving Mag Field through Static Steel Core & Copper Coils" thread
[ https://overunity.com/19085/energy-generation-by-moving-mag-field-through-static-steel-core-copper-coils/msg568549/#msg568549 ].

Thanks for the clear overview and detailed explainations.

 
Your "STATOR 1 and STATOR 2" winding configurations are quite interesting - hope to simulate them with the Lingen as soon as some CPU
time is freed up.

This comment is posted here so as not to polute your main thread.

Looking exceptionally good IMHO! More convinced with every step of progress achieved that this is the "excess energy real deal."


SL

Thanks SL

Yes I believe -so far- is showing something...not the way I am looking for...but, hey, something is something...

I am not happy with the Stator neither with Static Rotor...so I am in the process of building a new Rotor Core, hollow center...and 16 fully expanded coils, not like I have now which is 8 pairs of coils which gives a very low resolution field of about 45º steps...which is terrible!!
At least with the fully expanded 16 coils I will have 22.5º better resolution...
I am making a specific rotor core, where each steel tooth bar, will not be connected (steel-magnetic wise) with next...just by the energization of coils will keep them generating the field together...but as rotation goes on, field will literally jump from tooth bar to tooth bar...I expect a much better result.

Related to Stator winding...is not good also, I have like 20 ohms total on output terminals...and that is way too much resistance!!
I will be looking for like 4 or 5 ohms max.

It is a long and painful process...getting to the truth, my friend...but we will get there, sooner than later.


Regards


Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #898 on: July 05, 2022, 02:52:17 AM »
Rakarskiy
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Interesting question, isn't it! And where does the energy in a traditional mechanical synchronous generator come from?

Once again, I recommend reading and understanding!
https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/06/magnetization-of-steel-magnetic.html

It's an interesting and popular theory however I always had serious reservations because of the reasoning involved.

Adding a steel core, more so a closed core, can concentrate the magnetic field increasing the efficiency of induction over an air or open core coil. However this is not a gain in energy, were simply utilizing more of the energy already present and wasting less as heat and other losses.

As well, calculations are problematic which is why I do experiments. I wanted to understand the very thing in question many years ago so I used an Arduino/Labview and voltage, current and a hall effect sensors to graph and analyze various coil and transformer setups. That is analyze the real time magnetic field strength versus voltage, current and energy input.

Which led me to believe many were barking up the wrong tree and using ambiguous simulation/calculations instead of real experiments. As the saying goes, knowing what doesn't work can save us a lot of time and help us move in a more productive direction.

Regards
AC

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #899 on: July 05, 2022, 05:34:45 AM »

MAGNETIC GAIN

By operating in the non-linear region of a ferromagnetic material (electrical steel, metglas, etc.)
the "H" (source input - A/m) is amplified (gain); "B" (result - Tesla or Gauss).


The elevated region of the "dB/dH derivative" plot shows this region where this "gain" is most prevalent
(dB/dH - change in "B" vs change in "H").


In a linear material, input "H" yields output "B", Amp Turns = Teslas. In a non-linear material, by operating
in the non-linear (unsaturated) region, you can achieve a gain (see equations below).  [Color diagram may
not be correct, re: co-energy, depending on the definition used; but the concept is there]

This also applies when considering operation of a non-linear inductor (some devices use this as well). See below.

Physically, the pole structures focus the generated magnetic fields, much the same as a parabolic antenna
directs, or focuses, a Radio Frequency (RF) energy beam.

PS - Knowing what DOES WORK (and why) can also save a lot of time! Simulations, calculations, and good theory
can also save a lot of time and money!

PS2 - The Holcomb techniques are now well understood while the theory and analysis have been varified many
times. In fact, HES has begun shipping Beta units.

SL