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Author Topic: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world  (Read 121213 times)

Offline alan

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #855 on: July 01, 2022, 01:46:09 PM »
VAC? Are the values RMS or average and in phase? Only then you can simply take P=V*I. Capacitors store and release energy and can easily fool you if different factors aren't taken into consideration. 
V*I of the different components in a RLC circuit at resonance show increase in energy if you don't use the RMS (instead of peak values) and power factor in the calculations.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #856 on: July 01, 2022, 01:58:37 PM »
Good result!

СОР =  Рout/Pin =  (65V*1.6A=104W/25.3V*0.6A=25.9W) = 4.0

If you want to try to close, you will have to have a voltage balance system, it is better to rely on the battery. From the battery, through the DC/AC inverter, to the rotor winding. From the phase, through the AC/DC charger, to the battery. Connect the load to the battery.

@ Rakarskiy,

Sorry, I disagree...yes, a battery (or supercaps) are better...but Jim have AC to AC no DC involved.
So, IMHO, to start converting from AC to DC and then back from DC to AC...is where we get screwed off.

See, these systems are not "Overunity Galore"...they are only a few volts and a few Amps above Unity...and if you waste those in conversions...it simply will not loop or close system.

Look at Cotnoir DZ Generator, it only had a few volts and some milliamps above...

Anyways, tight up with time here...so

@Jim Boot

You have a great system there!!...try not to mess it up, please!
You could try looping by using an Inductive load, a Transformer, in order to down, just a bit, your Input power from Output...
You may have to build your own trafo for that specific job.
But by using a small down transformer, you will not need to convert AC to DC and vice versa, All you will need is to tune the Input with right wire thickness and turns on secondary of transformer...

From my own experience, these systems work much better when loaded with Inductive loads...as you will see on your scope...the output sinewave will be "chopped" from peak rounded curves to a "look alike" Square Wave, but will still remain above unity or Input peak!!

Remember DZ Generator...Pierre have to make a specific transformer, where he modified just the secondary in order to deliver his 26V at input...still, he had a lot of losses with resistor-heatsinked and many other stuff...again, he had to convert AC to DC...

But you do not need that Jim!!

Now, a question: Your Generator have two stator circuits, one for exciter and other for mains output...
The one for exciter being of finer gauge, lesser loops...
Which one are you using for your output tests?

Regards

Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #857 on: July 01, 2022, 02:51:34 PM »
Thanks everyone for the input. Trying very hard not to screw it up. :) A low bar I know. Inductive loads don't work. Resistive loads I think are forming part of a resonant LC circuit .
UFO I have wired all the stator coils in series. I have made a video with scope shots. The close up of the 240v 25w lamp is when it is connected directly to  the 24vac power supply. The wider shot is the lamp connected to the generator powered by the same supply 

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #858 on: July 01, 2022, 03:02:24 PM »
@ Rakarskiy,

Sorry, I disagree...yes, a battery (or supercaps) are better...but Jim have AC to AC no DC involved.
So, IMHO, to start converting from AC to DC and then back from DC to AC...is where we get screwed off.


Hello!
You yourself said AC input and output. Alternating current has a feature, a zero zone.
If there is no buffer with an electrical voltage source, the next input cycle will not come.
There is no flywheel here, which is also a source and accumulator of momentum and inertia for the continuation of impulses.
Sincerely.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #859 on: July 01, 2022, 03:14:23 PM »
Hello!
You yourself said AC input and output. Alternating current has a feature, a zero zone.
If there is no buffer with an electrical voltage source, the next input cycle will not come.
There is no flywheel here, which is also a source and accumulator of momentum and inertia for the continuation of impulses.
Sincerely.

@Rakarskyi,

Yes, I agree that AC has a zero zone, so a buffer, in between must be used...but, remember as you have said yourself before, there is a communication established between rotor-stator, in terms of In/Out sync of sinewaves...before loading.
So, I believe it could be done "raw", maybe an AC running cap of the same capacity on both ends will ease the closing.

Sincerely

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #860 on: July 01, 2022, 03:24:47 PM »
Thanks everyone for the input. Trying very hard not to screw it up. :) A low bar I know. Inductive loads don't work. Resistive loads I think are forming part of a resonant LC circuit .
UFO I have wired all the stator coils in series. I have made a video with scope shots. The close up of the 240v 25w lamp is when it is connected directly to  the 24vac power supply. The wider shot is the lamp connected to the generator powered by the same supply

@Jim,

I have done a similar experiment, I also have an 800-900 Watts Generator Stator...except my Rotor was a motor armature and I was using DC to rotate field with my rotary power switch.
But I also set both generator stator circuit windings in series, because by themselves, each will not do it enough...
However, there is a throw out side, a back lash here, both circuits are different wire gauge, plus lesser turns, plus set at 90° apart...So, your rotor positioning here is crucial...try aiming poles in between those 90° convergence, say at 45°...or near that.
Try "tuning it" by hand, very small angle turns...while checking output.

This means that whenever you load them in series, your drop power would be huge...
It would be great if you could rise your input frequency somehow...but you are tight down to 50 Hz... :(

Try by setting the stator circuits in parallel...it would be lesser voltage but more amps...see how lamp performs.

Regards

Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #861 on: July 01, 2022, 03:43:58 PM »
@Rakarskyi,

Yes, I agree that AC has a zero zone, so a buffer, in between must be used...but, remember as you have said yourself before, there is a communication established between rotor-stator, in terms of In/Out sync of sinewaves...before loading.
So, I believe it could be done "raw", maybe an AC running cap of the same capacity on both ends will ease the closing.

Sincerely

Ufopolitics

There are no waves there, there is a magnetic saturation of the core (with an increase in the field in electrical steel) depending on the magnetic intensity of the electromagnet of the rotor, which in turn creates this intensity with alternating current.
No current, no field, no emf in the secondary circuit.

Sincerely!

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #862 on: July 01, 2022, 04:09:20 PM »
There are no waves there, there is a magnetic saturation of the core (with an increase in the field in electrical steel) depending on the magnetic intensity of the electromagnet of the rotor, which in turn creates this intensity with alternating current.
No current, no field, no emf in the secondary circuit.

Sincerely!


@Rakarskyi

There are no (sine)waves here??!!
Whenever that Rotor Coils swap between positive to negative pulses...what do you think is going to reflect on the scope?
A straight flat line?!
Come on Rakarskyi!!...you know better than that!!

@Jim Boot:
Could you please, show Us a screen shot of your scope output signal?
As well, another one of the Input...

Thanks

Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #863 on: July 01, 2022, 06:51:18 PM »
...
You may have to build your own trafo for that specific job.
...

Why not just use a Variac?
bi

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #864 on: July 01, 2022, 07:10:08 PM »
Why not just use a Variac?
bi
Hello Bi,


It could be a Variac...however, doesn't Variacs require a minimum Input VAC to transfer power to secondary?
Like 120VAC?
And this is due to the number of windings and gauge of wire used at primary...
That I have understood Variacs potentiometer only works at output (secondary)
Or maybe am wrong, as it could take any input below 120VAC...
I could be, as I have never used one...

Regards


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #865 on: July 01, 2022, 08:32:32 PM »
Hello Bi,


It could be a Variac...however, doesn't Variacs require a minimum Input VAC to transfer power to secondary?
Like 120VAC?
And this is due to the number of windings and gauge of wire used at primary...
That I have understood Variacs potentiometer only works at output (secondary)
Or maybe am wrong, as it could take any input below 120VAC...
I could be, as I have never used one...

Regards


Ufopolitics

Ufo,
I'm pretty sure there is no problem at less than rated voltage. Of course, output voltage percentage remains the same, like 0 to 125%, typically. Neat devices. I like them. Here's a few links which appear informative. I notice tutorial videos out there also.

https://eepower.com/technical-articles/variable-transformers-operation-and-applications/

https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/auto-transformer.html

https://variac.com

Not expensive and often found surplus/used for cheap. Easier than custom winding a xformer.
bi

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #866 on: July 02, 2022, 12:40:59 AM »
@Jim,

I have done a similar experiment, I also have an 800-900 Watts Generator Stator...except my Rotor was a motor armature and I was using DC to rotate field with my rotary power switch.
But I also set both generator stator circuit windings in series, because by themselves, each will not do it enough...
However, there is a throw out side, a back lash here, both circuits are different wire gauge, plus lesser turns, plus set at 90° apart...So, your rotor positioning here is crucial...try aiming poles in between those 90° convergence, say at 45°...or near that.
Try "tuning it" by hand, very small angle turns...while checking output.

This means that whenever you load them in series, your drop power would be huge...
It would be great if you could rise your input frequency somehow...but you are tight down to 50 Hz... :(

Try by setting the stator circuits in parallel...it would be lesser voltage but more amps...see how lamp performs.

Regards

Ufopolitics
having the stators in parallel would be good to check. Thanks ufo. Rest assured I have spent hours slowly turning the rotor mm by mm to find the best spot. As you will see in last nights video. It varies with the cap value used.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #867 on: July 02, 2022, 01:10:50 AM »
As inductive loads seem to be seen as a short, you would have to use resistive loads to loop it. You could not daisy chain these for the same reason. So thermal exchanges or peltier devices  I guess. I was able to charge a battery via a fwbr. I also connected a halogen directly to the 24vac supply and checked temp difference when run off the gen. Off the 24vac it was room temp as it was not glowing but was drawing current. Off the gen it was 36 degrees Celsius higher.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #868 on: July 02, 2022, 02:58:55 AM »
I also connected a halogen directly to the 24vac supply and checked temp difference when run off the gen. Off the 24vac it was room temp as it was not glowing but was drawing current. Off the gen it was 36 degrees Celsius higher.


Hello Jim,

Your simple experiment above proves the gain is real.

I also have seen these anomalies which shows higher output than input.  But as you, I also have my doubts about Amperage readings...I have a great Amp clamp, but since it  works based on magnetism, it could alter results if it gets close to where magnetic field is rotating or alternating (in your case).
I am going to test next with a Current Probe to make sure my clamp is right.

Also, I believe a very radical Voltage drop with a load on (seen on Meters and on Scope Sinewave, shows that the amperage is not as strong and high.

These Generators Stators are wound to work at rotational speeds of the Field above the 3000 RPM's...or above 50 Hz.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #869 on: July 02, 2022, 03:30:57 AM »

Hello Jim,

Your simple experiment above proves the gain is real.

I also have seen these anomalies which shows higher output than input.  But as you, I also have my doubts about Amperage readings...I have a great Amp clamp, but since it  works based on magnetism, it could alter results if it gets close to where magnetic field is rotating or alternating (in your case).
I am going to test next with a Current Probe to make sure my clamp is right.

Also, I believe a very radical Voltage drop with a load on (seen on Meters and on Scope Sinewave, shows that the amperage is not as strong and high.

These Generators Stators are wound to work at rotational speeds of the Field above the 3000 RPM's...or above 50 Hz.

Regards


Ufopolitics
interesting thanks mate. For some reason my scope seems to be 3 times higher than the dmm so I have a config issue but the relative difference of voltage seems to match the dmm. https://youtu.be/lIjecj207KU