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Author Topic: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world  (Read 121212 times)

Offline rakarskiy

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #840 on: June 29, 2022, 02:22:10 PM »
Tonight I put a 100v 68uf cap across my 240v incandescent lamp. My 24vac supply rated at 1000ma hooked up to the 8ohm rotor coils in parallel. Output from stator coils connected to the lamp with the cap across it.
Measured with my DMM so take it with a grain of salt. However there was a significant difference visually in brightness.
Input from 24vac supply with rotor and load connected.
23vac 519ma
Output from the stator connected to the / lamp cap 40vac 970ma.
So that was interesting.

Input ROTOR: Pin = 23V * 0.519A = 11.94W;

Output LOAD: Pout = 40V * 0.970A = 38.8W;

COP = Pout / Pin = 38.8 / 11.94 = 3.2

You probably, to yourself, are afraid to admit your performance?

And perhaps a photo of the experiment?

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #841 on: June 29, 2022, 02:31:14 PM »
Input ROTOR: Pin = 23V * 0.519A = 11.94W;

Output LOAD: Pout = 40V * 0.970A = 38.8W;

COP = Pout / Pin = 38.8 / 11.94 = 3.2

You probably, to yourself, are afraid to admit your performance?

And perhaps a photo of the experiment?
TBH I don't trust anything until it's self running :) I'll tidy everything up and do a video with measurements. If you want scope shots it may take me a while to work out how to configure my rigol . I'm more interested in trying other cap values and different resistive loads. I'd like to understand more about tuning it.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #842 on: June 29, 2022, 02:42:17 PM »
Jimboot, i do not think that from this position without changes, you can squeeze more.
The reason is that the pole piece is designed for mechanical rotation and does not have a uniform gap over the entire area of ​​contact through the gap with the plane of the rotor.
The rotor is not designed to work with a variable excitation field.

You can try a likefuck from me. Take very small metal shavings and pva glue, make a thick mixture and fill the gap between the rotor and the stator. Back in 1982-83, we did this to increase the flux linkage of electric motors. At some point it helped, but in this version there will be no rotation.

That's all I can advise for such a pair of rotor + stator!

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #843 on: June 29, 2022, 04:36:17 PM »
Tonight I put a 100v 68uf cap across my 240v incandescent lamp. My 24vac supply rated at 1000ma hooked up to the 8ohm rotor coils in parallel. Output from stator coils connected to the lamp with the cap across it.
Measured with my DMM so take it with a grain of salt. However there was a significant difference visually in brightness.
Input from 24vac supply with rotor and load connected.
23vac 519ma 11.93 watts
Output from the stator connected to the / lamp cap 40vac 970ma. 38.8watts
So that was interesting.

I have also attached the model of the generator I have recycled from.


Hello Jim,

That was an interesting experiment!
If I may ask, are you using the same generator rotor, which is basically two coils in series?
And so, applying 23 VAC from a transformer?

You are getting an obvious gain there...may not be enough to loop or self excite...but still interesting...

However, if you are just using AC for Input into a single coil or dual in series...that is basically a transformer scenario with a primary (static rotor) and a secondary (stator).

You can not modulate field speed (basically "flashes" of up-down sinewaves) which ends up as frequency rate.

If you could share pictures of rotor-stator config it would be great.

Thanks and regards


Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #844 on: June 29, 2022, 11:46:10 PM »

Hello Jim,

That was an interesting experiment!
If I may ask, are you using the same generator rotor, which is basically two coils in series?
And so, applying 23 VAC from a transformer?

You are getting an obvious gain there...may not be enough to loop or self excite...but still interesting...

However, if you are just using AC for Input into a single coil or dual in series...that is basically a transformer scenario with a primary (static rotor) and a secondary (stator).

You can not modulate field speed (basically "flashes" of up-down sinewaves) which ends up as frequency rate.

If you could share pictures of rotor-stator config it would be great.

Thanks and regards


Ufopolitics
the two rotor coils are wired in parallel .  Resistor and diode removed.hopefully I’ll be able to upload more tonight. It is indeed fascinating.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #845 on: June 30, 2022, 10:40:03 AM »
You can try a likefuck from me.
Maybe lifehack ? :D
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Take very small metal shavings and pva glue, make a thick mixture and fill the gap between the rotor and the stator. Back in 1982-83, we did this to increase the flux linkage of electric motors.
And how did they rotate after that?

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #846 on: June 30, 2022, 10:47:18 AM »
Maybe lifehack ? :DAnd how did they rotate after that?

They rotated perfectly with clearly better performance than with the traditional clearance, it was just that during the solidification period it was necessary to turn the anchor slowly in the stator. Here, in the process of work, heating destroyed PVA. Not immediately, but gradually. If you apply a base that is more resistant to heat (in our 21st century this is not a problem), the operation of the electric motor will work for a long time with such an improvement.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #847 on: June 30, 2022, 02:05:43 PM »
I need new DMMs again I think. I need a better way to measure this, something physical. My readings with a new cap are so ludicrous I need to set up my Rigol 4 channel scope to do the math for Pin Pout maybe but even then I won't be convinced. I call BS on myself before anyone else does. Quite frankly I need to try and debunk what I'm seeing. My input is 15 watts. That's seems reasonable but my output is not. It's quite unreasonable but my lamp is brighter than before and the transformer is noisier so there appears to be a net gain. But until I have a physical experiment that can demonstrate the difference clearly I will not accept what my DMM is showing. I have not worked much with AC so I need to better understand what is going on here. Any suggestions for physical experiments not involving meters are welcomed. I am now able to dimly light this halogen

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #848 on: June 30, 2022, 03:19:00 PM »
Any suggestions for physical experiments not involving meters are welcomed.
Make a self-running.
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They rotated perfectly with clearly better performance than with the traditional clearance, it was just that during the solidification period it was necessary to turn the anchor slowly in the stator.
At first I thought you were gluing the rotor to the stator.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #849 on: June 30, 2022, 03:20:35 PM »
[...] Any suggestions for physical experiments not involving meters are welcomed. I am now able to dimly light this halogen

Hello Jim,

Have you tried to read/see/measure output sinewave on a simple two channel scope versus Input signal?

This simple readout, I consider it is very important to see what is the shape and height (strength) of your output signal versus input.
Since you have AC on both sides it would be easier to compare if both probes are set exactly at same sensitivity scale.
Further on, I would recommend a Current Probe (like Tektronix A622 or A621) which you could connect to one of your scope channels.

And you have a 4 Channel Scope (I wish I had one, but they are too expensive!!) which -(as I consider it)to be the top of the tools to measure everything at once, in just one screen!!
With 4 Channels, and two current probes, plus the other two typical probes, you could measure Input V/A as Output V/A in one screen!!

These Current Probes convert in scale on Scope, Millivolts to Amps (10 mV/A-100mV/A) so you could see your amp peak on the screen.

Regards


Ufopolitics


P.D: If you are willing to, I can invite you to open your own Moderated Topic/Thread under my main thread which is based on the same principle...Moving the Magnetic Field(s) to generate Energy.
There you could align all your files, pictures and videos as any explanations in order, not scattered all over.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #851 on: June 30, 2022, 04:23:26 PM »
Not sure if this was mentioned
Bulbs can be bench calibrated for heat against input


So many input watts makes x amount of heat


Vortex1 (also used handle ION )
Taught caloric measurement
And suggested builders take a bulb up through various inputs
And scale the temperature on a chart !


Actually a very good tool for the person with limited
Equipment
And ultimately incredibly accurate for most investigations!


And it is a bit linear for seat of pants napkin calculations against mains input ( full power at wall socket
Temp
And comparing what your device temp is


Obviously there are other inputs being used in device


I would even check temp of other areas on device and log info
During different experiments


Temperature can give big clues


Respectfully
Chet K
EDIT
ION (Vortex1) did mention a small black dot on bulb (w/heat paint) as target for
Infrared thermometer to avoid sensing artifacts


However he was scientist ( very very meticulous)
Just passing info along
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Edit to Captain K below
Sounds effective!
However one of the big applications for ION’s method
Was for circuits having  all manner of noise RF or HV
Which were very hard to probe (without risk to equipment etc)


If such were making claims of more power out that in (or OU for Wesley!;)


Then he would say ( ION)
Do you have a thermometer and a cardboard box ??
Do you know input power ?


Take your device under test (DUT)
Place in box


Run device until temperature no longer rises in box
( becomes stable)
Obviously some device might need bigger boxes


Note final temperature ( against losses to ambient)
Now take device out of box


Place appropriately sized resistor for your claimed input
Place worlds most efficient heater ( resistor) in box !
Run test again
Compare final temp
Did your “DUT” beat the resistor at same input?


If yes
Do the happy dance
You just beat worlds most efficient  heater ( all loses go to heat in resistor 100% efficient in this caloric
Test application!


Simple and brutal honesty!
He called it “ Fixed loss to ambient test protocol “
Thermometer
Cardboard box
Ambient


Final stable temp is ruler or comparative!

« Last Edit: June 30, 2022, 07:11:41 PM by ramset »

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #852 on: June 30, 2022, 06:32:07 PM »
Bulbs can be bench calibrated for heat against input
So many input watts makes x amount of heat
And I placed the lamp in an opaque case and at some distance from it a photodiode.
And a simple milliammeter that measures the current generated by this photodiode.
Thus, I made an RF power meter .Which was not subject to RF interference.
Because sometimes you have to repair radio stations. ;)

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #853 on: July 01, 2022, 12:52:52 AM »
Make a self-running.
that is the obvious next step. Not sure how at this stage.I wish I had another so I coul at least daisy chain them. Thanks ufo I’ve had the scope on the output have not compared the with the input. Ernie’s idea sounds good Chet just not sure what an appropriately sized resistor is. I used the starter cap that came with the gen last night. Pin 25.3v 600ma. Pout measured across cap 1.6A 65v. So looks like we squeezed more juice.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #854 on: July 01, 2022, 01:26:03 PM »
that is the obvious next step. Not sure how at this stage.I wish I had another so I coul at least daisy chain them. Thanks ufo I’ve had the scope on the output have not compared the with the input. Ernie’s idea sounds good Chet just not sure what an appropriately sized resistor is. I used the starter cap that came with the gen last night. Pin 25.3v 600ma. Pout measured across cap 1.6A 65v. So looks like we squeezed more juice.

Good result!

СОР =  Рout/Pin =  (65V*1.6A=104W/25.3V*0.6A=25.9W) = 4.0

If you want to try to close, you will have to have a voltage balance system, it is better to rely on the battery. From the battery, through the DC/AC inverter, to the rotor winding. From the phase, through the AC/DC charger, to the battery. Connect the load to the battery.