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Author Topic: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world  (Read 121309 times)

Offline Feb2006

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #570 on: June 03, 2022, 03:21:22 AM »
Solarlab your timing sequence does not add up ,
“North pole 58(1) and South pole 57(1) are simultaneously excited with DC current;
1.043 milliseconds later North pole 58(2) and South pole 57(2) are excited;
1.043 milliseconds later North pole 58(3)and South pole 57(3)  are excited; and then
1.043 milliseconds later, North pole 58(4)and South pole 57(4) are excited.

Then 1.043 milliseconds later, the cycle begins all over again.

  1,043 + 1,043 + 1.043 + 1.043 = 4.172

 Don't understand where you get 4ms off from?
I think period is for each pole and cycle is for all poles.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #571 on: June 03, 2022, 07:16:53 AM »
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You keep repeating the resultant vector (B Field)...or the "magnetic flux density field"...
Flux=Flow...there is nothing "technical" about the word "flux"...it means "flow" or the emanation that a magnetic field, or several fields produces, generates...and it varies, depends upon many factors...we could vary that flow/flux according to field input...attenuate it or increase it...collapse it or maintain it constant.

Point is, flux is NOT a Field...it is the resultant "product" generated by the field.
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Hi Ufo,
As one of my reasons to be here is to challenge falsehoods, I will pick on this one. I know we discussed this before; how magnetic flux doesn't flow, but you insist it does and so state. Anyone can study magnetic fundamentals and learn the truth. I'll post an example below.

A quote from:

https://tinyurl.com/2n2j9fm9

"However, magnetic flux does not actually flow from the north to the south pole or flow anywhere for that matter as magnetic flux is a static region around a magnet in which the magnetic force exists. In other words magnetic flux does not flow or move it is just there and is not influenced by gravity. "

And this region is considered a field. A magnetic flux field.
bi

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #572 on: June 03, 2022, 07:58:39 AM »
Pictures referenced in previous comment did not attach.  Here they all are.

There is nothing unusual about the design of the Holcomb generator. It has two solid-state rotors, external and internal, and between them a stator with generator windings. It actually has two generators in one.
Study my posts, you can simply collect them separately and find all the answers.
Holcomb models the operation of a four-pole rotor, the rotor can be either internal or external.
Why switching, it creates in the stator the effect of constant magnetic intensity along the poles that move

There is another patent by inventor Park Jae-sung that "skeptics of the system" are ignoring

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8629588B2/en?oq=8%2c629%2c588

this is the same thing, only the switching of electromagnets is different, on the contrary with a collector motor.


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #573 on: June 03, 2022, 11:53:56 AM »
Rikarskiy - Thank you for your comment.  I have studied your posts, as well as all others on this thread and on UFOPolitics' excellent build thread.  If the answers were there I would not have wasted anyone's time with my post.  I fully understand the principles of this device and have studied the patent in detail.  Please do not equate my being a Newbie on this forum with a lack of understanding or my ability as a builder. 

The pictures of the windings on the "rotor" being used in Holcomb's present device do not at all correspond with the windings in the patents or the windings you just posted pictures of. 

Please pay particular attention to the picture of the bottom of the rotor again attached.  The windings span multiple teeth with the wires to the outside spaced every 3 teeth on what looks like a 36 tooth rotor.  It appears he has inserted spacers in the center of each tooth to fix an air gap distance.  We should discern what kind of wiring and switching pattern corresponds to that picture if we wish to fully understand how Holcomb is presently creating his rotating magnetic field. 

   

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #574 on: June 03, 2022, 01:24:45 PM »
Rikarskiy - Thank you for your comment.  I have studied your posts, as well as all others on this thread and on UFOPolitics' excellent build thread.  If the answers were there I would not have wasted anyone's time with my post.  I fully understand the principles of this device and have studied the patent in detail.  Please do not equate my being a Newbie on this forum with a lack of understanding or my ability as a builder. 

The pictures of the windings on the "rotor" being used in Holcomb's present device do not at all correspond with the windings in the patents or the windings you just posted pictures of. 

Please pay particular attention to the picture of the bottom of the rotor again attached.  The windings span multiple teeth with the wires to the outside spaced every 3 teeth on what looks like a 36 tooth rotor.  It appears he has inserted spacers in the center of each tooth to fix an air gap distance.  We should discern what kind of wiring and switching pattern corresponds to that picture if we wish to fully understand how Holcomb is presently creating his rotating magnetic field. 
 

First, if you look at the windings, I see the generator winding laid.
Secondly, if we assume that this is really a rotor, then there is an interesting patent by Nikola Tesla, where the excitation of the pole went in a wave-like manner. As an option, this option is probably correct, to reduce the inductance parameter.
I don't care how he decided to excite the magnetic pole. The main thing is that he excites them according to a special algorithm.
The gap is important, but it should be as small as possible.

In the attached photo, everything is beautifully visible, something that is in the patent is in reality.

Sincerely!


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #575 on: June 03, 2022, 01:38:27 PM »
Rakarskiy, What is the source of the photo please?

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #576 on: June 03, 2022, 01:49:08 PM »
Rakarskiy, What is the source of the photo please?

I do not remember the source, but this is a screenshot from the screen of my monitor, taken on May 11, 2022 at 8:30 am. I can collect information. Possibly a frame from one of Dr. Holcomb's commercials.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #577 on: June 03, 2022, 01:59:06 PM »
Rakarskyi - Thank you for the photo.  Are you sure it is a picture of the Holcomb generator?  I cannot recall seeing it in any of Holcomb's videos or on their website.   

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #578 on: June 03, 2022, 02:14:13 PM »
Rakarskyi - Thank you for the photo.  Are you sure it is a picture of the Holcomb generator?  I cannot recall seeing it in any of Holcomb's videos or on their website.   




I wonder what you were looking at? photo from this thread


https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg564949/#msg564949



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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #579 on: June 03, 2022, 02:58:47 PM »
Hi Ufo,
As one of my reasons to be here is to challenge falsehoods, I will pick on this one. I know we discussed this before; how magnetic flux doesn't flow, but you insist it does and so state. Anyone can study magnetic fundamentals and learn the truth. I'll post an example below.

A quote from:

https://tinyurl.com/2n2j9fm9

"However, magnetic flux does not actually flow from the north to the south pole or flow anywhere for that matter as magnetic flux is a static region around a magnet in which the magnetic force exists. In other words magnetic flux does not flow or move it is just there and is not influenced by gravity. "

And this region is considered a field. A magnetic flux field.
bi


Bistander,

Here is your problem...you keep posting the same old stuff, the old school B.S which even keep contradicting itself...here is an example, and written one paragraph after the other...unvbelievable that people still believe all this nonsense!!

 
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1-The general direction for the magnetic flux flow is from the North (N) to the South (S)pole.
In addition, these magnetic lines form closed loops that leave at the north pole of the magnet and enter at the south pole. Magnetic poles are always in pairs.


2-However, magnetic flux does not actually flow from the north to the south pole or flow anywhere for that matter as magnetic flux is a static region around a magnet in which the magnetic force exists. In other words magnetic flux does not flow or move it is just there and is not influenced by gravity. Some important facts emerge when plotting lines of force.

Just by reading both paragraphs above, We can easily identify all CONTRADICTING INFORMATION!!

1- First: "Magnetic Flux flow is from North to South"
2- Second: "Magnetic Flux does  not actually flow"

...¿?


Btw, can you, Bistander, cite just one single Experiment done through our entire history...which shows that the "Magnetic Flux Flow" takes place from North to South??!!


This is exactly what you claim you are against...FALSEHOODS, MISLEADING INFO...but then, you post it yourself...?

So, "Magnetic Flux is a STATIC region around a Magnet" ??   ??? !!

Magnetic Flux CAN NOT be more DYNAMIC, MORE FLEXIBLE AND LESS STATIC than it ACTUALLY IS!!

And this properties are very easily demonstrated by holding just a couple of magnets and observe, feel their interactions at LARGE!!

ANYONE (Don't need a degree or a PHD in Sciences) can throw out all these FALSE theories in a matter of seconds!!

Magnetic Fields actually JUMPS, ENLARGES, MUTATES PARTIALLY from the Field Source itself to any INERT ferromagnetic material set in a close gap, close range to it...seen very clearly with Viewing Film!!

Static?...my A$$

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #580 on: June 03, 2022, 03:07:08 PM »
Rakarskyi - Thank you tremendously for the links and the photo!  The generator in that photo does not resemble any pictures currently on their website or in their YouTube videos.  I just reviewed them all.  Though it does resemble the generator in their animation.  They have deleted that picture of the generator from their published material.  You have done everyone a great service by saving it.  Clearly it contains information they would rather not have publicly disclosed. 

The generator in the deleted picture has two "rotors!"  There is an inner rotor, a 3-phase stator, then an outer rotor.  The patent shows only an inner rotor.  An outer rotor may be critical to fully understand why the device works and for builders attempting to replicate it.  Having the benefit of this deleted picture, I believe the photo I previously posted and labeled bottom view of rotor is most likely a picture of a 3-phase stator before being sandwiched between two rotors.

Thank you again for saving and sharing that photo.  Fabulous!  Geometry and winding pattern of the entire generator is now clear.





 

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #581 on: June 03, 2022, 03:11:35 PM »
Magnetic Flux does NOT flow!
Magnetic Flux has a attraction vector, to connect in a "ring"!
If the current is open then the current has poles! The vector is formed from the maximum "pressure" of the explosion to the minimum "pressure" of the implosion.
If the flow is closed, the poles disappear and the flow itself forms a ring! The ring is the strongest state of magnetic flux.


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #582 on: June 03, 2022, 03:14:45 PM »
Rakarskyi - Thank you tremendously for the links and the photo!  The generator in that photo does not resemble any pictures currently on their website or in their YouTube videos.  I just reviewed them all.  Though it does resemble the generator in their animation.  They have deleted that picture of the generator from their published material.  You have done everyone a great service by saving it.  Clearly it contains information they would rather not have publicly disclosed. 

The generator in the deleted picture has two "rotors!"  There is an inner rotor, a 3-phase stator, then an outer rotor.  The patent shows only an inner rotor.  An outer rotor may be critical to fully understand why the device works and for builders attempting to replicate it.  Having the benefit of this deleted picture, I believe the photo I previously posted and labeled bottom view of rotor is most likely a picture of a 3-phase stator before being sandwiched between two rotors.

Thank you again for saving and sharing that photo.  Fabulous!  Geometry and winding pattern of the entire generator is now clear.

why would they hide something when the patent is in the public domain. They have Instagram and other platforms.
The problem is different, engineers who can understand and repeat units.

Sincerely

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #583 on: June 03, 2022, 03:23:39 PM »
Ufo,
N & S poles are just labels to help visualize. Unimportant. What is important is the direction of the field, we call B vector.
bi

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #584 on: June 03, 2022, 03:31:29 PM »
Rakarksky - As you know, the patent does not show an outer rotor.  The patent application was made over 4.5 years ago on Nov 17, 2017.  Improvements have undoubtedly been made in the meantime.  The outer rotor is likely a significant improvement or it would not have been made.  It may be the difference between a marginally effective generator and a highly effective generator.