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Author Topic: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world  (Read 29135 times)

Offline Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #420 on: May 06, 2022, 06:23:03 PM »
Wow!!, I do love that structure Rakarskiy!!


Where can I buy it?


Cheers


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #422 on: May 06, 2022, 06:54:08 PM »

Hello Ariovaldo,


Let me see if I understand correctly what you are doing on that video:


You are feeding (Input) with single-phase AC 110-120V from your wall, plus a capacitor, the 3 phase motor stator, on just one phase, one set of coils...correct?


Then collecting on the center coil on iron.




Thanks




Ufopolitics


Yes. I have done so many other configurations, and nothing has worked as I thought.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #423 on: May 06, 2022, 07:00:56 PM »
https://ru.made-in-china.com/co_szjiarun/product_Rotor-Stator-of-Silicon-Sheet-Material_riurusneg.html

 ;)


Thanks,


But is it Laminated Steel?
Plus, the inner piece do not have openings?
It is sealed on the outer...


And then I have to buy 100 pieces?!!


Not planning to market this...hahahaha




Thanks anyways, it is good to know!!




Cheers




Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #424 on: May 06, 2022, 07:14:56 PM »

Hello Ariovaldo,


Let me see if I understand correctly what you are doing on that video:


You are feeding (Input) with single phase AC 110-120V from your wall, plus a capacitor, the 3 phase motor stator, on just one phase, one set of coils...correct?


Then collecting on the center coil on iron...right?




Thanks




Ufopolitics


May be 2 options to get rotating magnetic field in 3 phase motor out of 1 phase supply:

1. Yes, you can feed 3 phase motor from 1 phase with use of capacitor to make a phase shift. Already tried this and it works. See attached.
2. I see also on the switchboard rack a driver. You can have driver feed from 1 phase and with 3 phase output. Very common for smaller motors.


Using only one set of coils on the stator and feeding it with 1 phase supply will not rotate magnetic field.


Cheers,
Pix

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #425 on: May 06, 2022, 08:28:05 PM »

May be 2 options to get rotating magnetic field in 3 phase motor out of 1 phase supply:

1. Yes, you can feed 3 phase motor from 1 phase with use of capacitor to make a phase shift. Already tried this and it works. See attached.
2. I see also on the switchboard rack a driver. You can have driver feed from 1 phase and with 3 phase output. Very common for smaller motors.


Using only one set of coils on the stator and feeding it with 1 phase supply will not rotate magnetic field.


Cheers,
Pix


It still...is not going to work either way with AC, whether single, two or three phase...
It is not going to work with these type of systems.
AC does not rotate a single, main field.
AC gives a "simulation" of a "rotation" by shifting multiple poles from many different fields, in the same, exact position-location where the coils are set.
These shifting could be done by 3 phase, in a 1,2,3 configuration which never closes a full 360º rotation.




Cheers




Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #426 on: May 06, 2022, 09:00:00 PM »

It still...is not going to work either way with AC, whether single, two or three phase...
It is not going to work with these type of systems.
AC does not rotate a single, main field.
AC gives a "simulation" of a "rotation" by shifting multiple poles from many different fields, in the same, exact position-location where the coils are set.
These shifting could be done by 3 phase, in a 1,2,3 configuration which never closes a full 360º rotation.




Cheers

Something like that.....



Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #427 on: May 06, 2022, 09:01:37 PM »












https://youtu.be/nCReDKa6Fn8


I don't have time now, and I will return to these tests after retiring. ( 3 more years to go. Lol)

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #428 on: May 06, 2022, 09:33:30 PM »
Wow!!, I do love that structure Rakarskiy!!


Where can I buy it?


Cheers

i have made one from 2 different motors... checked rotor to fit in stator...testing soon

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #429 on: May 06, 2022, 09:36:03 PM »
rotor fit inside old stator

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #430 on: May 06, 2022, 09:55:08 PM »

It still...is not going to work either way with AC, whether single, two or three phase...
It is not going to work with these type of systems.
AC does not rotate a single, main field.
AC gives a "simulation" of a "rotation" by shifting multiple poles from many different fields, in the same, exact position-location where the coils are set.
These shifting could be done by 3 phase, in a 1,2,3 configuration which never closes a full 360º rotation.




Cheers




Ufopolitics


I was refering only to a YT movie with a guy putting a coil inside 3 phase motor stator, how he could run that stator from a 1 phase supply.
No comments to Holcomb .


Cheers,
Pix

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #431 on: May 06, 2022, 11:53:52 PM »
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AC does not rotate a single, main field.
AC gives a "simulation" of a "rotation" by shifting multiple poles from many different fields, in the same, exact position-location where the coils are set.
These shifting could be done by 3 phase, in a 1,2,3 configuration which never closes a full 360º rotation.

Cheers

Ufopolitics

You are wrong. I have, and others have, shown links and references showing a single constant magnitude flux field rotating in the air gap arising from 3-phase AC. All 3-phase induction motors, as well as other AC machines, use this. Every EE text book I've seen covers this theory and the lecturer covers it in class, as well as experiments required with electric machinery and power conversion labs.

If you got small and stood on the surface of the stationary rotor, you could not tell if the traveling magnetic field is coming from moving PMs, a moving electromagnet, a series of switched DC excited stationary coils, or a polyphase AC excited set of stationary coils.

The whole point here is that some believe that there exists a signature, or characteristic which differentiates the B field vector originating from a stationary source changing in magnitude and an identical B field vector originating from a constant magnitude field changing position relative to the sensor or conductor or charge. I don't think so, but I am very interested in experiment on the subject.

So please continue, but take note that you are a minority claiming polyphase AC can not produce a traveling flux field. You are flat out wrong.

In fact, would not the pulsing DC you feed to the coils actually constitute AC.
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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #432 on: May 07, 2022, 08:17:07 AM »
The rotation of the field, or rather the change in the magnitude of the magnetic induction, with the replacement of the poles at a given point of the stator core, with a phase winding (for a generator in a gap, a groove).
There is a mechanical way, when a permanent beckon (DIPOLE) or a system of dipoles, rotates to the system of the annular stator core (with grooves).

There is a way to switch a group of magnets while simulating the movement of a physical magnet. (this is what the Armature does when the brushes rotate around the commutator, or electronic system, which radiates the work of the armature electromagnets).
https://figueragenerator.wordpress.com/patents/patent-30378/
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Invention of an electric generator without using mechanical force, since nothing moves, which produces the same effects of current dynamo-electric machines thanks to several fixed electromagnets, excited by a discontinuous or alternating current which creates an induction in the motionless induced circuit, placed within the magnetic fields of the excitatory electromagnets.

Barcelona, the 5th of September of 1902

Signed: Clemente Figuera and Pedro Blasberg

(*) Note of the translator: “sus polos” in spanish may be translated into english both as plural “their poles” (referring to the poles of two electromagnets) or as singular “its poles” (referring to the two poles of one electromagnet).

There is a way to smoothly change the current in the winding of an electromagnet. Own AC source or appropriate controller. The first such controller was patented by Clemente Figuera in a 1908 patent.

The issue of creating an alternating magnetic field with the corresponding magnetic induction in the gap (slot) of the stator core is a key task in creating a transgenerator. 



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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #433 on: May 07, 2022, 08:25:49 AM »

Thanks,

But is it Laminated Steel?
Plus, the inner piece do not have openings?
It is sealed on the outer...

And then I have to buy 100 pieces?!!

Cheers

Ufopolitics

https://portuguese.alibaba.com/p-detail/stator-685752878.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normal_offer.d_title.512e595cORvI7s

Link to the first picture. Alas, I have not seen them for sale by the piece.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #434 on: May 07, 2022, 09:33:23 AM »
Bistander
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You are wrong. I have, and others have, shown links and references showing a single constant magnitude flux field rotating in the air gap arising from 3-phase AC. All 3-phase induction motors, as well as other AC machines, use this. Every EE text book I've seen covers this theory and the lecturer covers it in class, as well as experiments required with electric machinery and power conversion labs.

It's a little problematic because the supposed rules seem to contradict themselves.

Either magnetic fields always form closed loops or they do not. So if we claim many individual fields can form a single rotating field then we must explain how many singular closed loops can become one larger loop without breaking any single loop in the process.

I tend to agree with the "most of this is nonsense" rule. There are no lines of force or loops, they are imaginary and based on an archaic form of notation. Thus there were never any lines or loops to break and in the right context we could see two fields merge or separate ergo rotate. In fact many FE inventors claimed there devices worked due to a phenomena they called flowing(Moray, Figuera, Schaugerger) or glowing(Schappeller) magnetism. Which makes perfect sense if anyone gave a damn what the real FE inventors actually thought or there perspective. We could easily equate flowing magnetism with the traveling magnetism/shaded pole effect and glowing magnetism with plasma/Birkeland currents.

So all this "science" would seem to be more about perspective and who can make something work rather than any individuals personal flavor of dogma. I mean, any fool can believe something... proving it is a different matter all together.

Regards
AC