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Offline SolarLab

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #3045 on: August 28, 2023, 08:23:12 PM »
OK, i took the bait, and looked into their tech.

I must say that i call-bullshit, and here is why.

First claim--(The HES utilizes the natural energy produced by the electron spin in the iron atom, converting it into usable electricity.)  :o
Now, i'm sure most of us here are aware that changing magnetic fields in iron cores produces eddy currents, which consumes energy, and releases it as heat. It never produces energy.

Second claim--(It can increase the usable true power for any use or any facility including homes, apartments, factories, office buildings – or any consumer of electric power, reducing one’s power bill, and carbon footprint, by up to 80%.) ;D
Now, forgive me if i'm wrong, but shouldn't a device that produces it's own energy, reduce your power bills by 100% ?, while maintaining it's own energy supply. There simply is no reason a device that produces excess energy cannot be self looped, and provide excess energy to run loads.

All i see, is the destruction of perfectly good electric motors.

I reduced my power bills by 80% by putting solar panels on my roof.


Brad


Brad,

That was my first impression as well - BS, but I decided to do an analysis since many things are not what they first appear.
Some of the detailed discovery is outlined in the links and attachments below. These are informational only and not meant
to convince anyone of anything - they are purely educational.

NOTE: 1. Eddy currents are mitigated by either using laminations or, better yet, Soft Magnetic Compounds (SMC).
              Also consider a unipolar pulse working in the upper half of the B-H Curve.
          2. Looping is not "talked about" since that would be perpetual (Overunity) which is not (currently) patentable.

Britannica - magnetic field strength [see attachment]
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg100977#msg100977

"When a current flows in a wire wrapped on a soft-iron cylinder, the magnetic field (H)
is quite weak, but the actual average magnetic field (B) within the iron may be
thousands of times stronger because B is greatly enhanced by the alignment of the
iron's myriad tiny natural atomic magnets in the direction of the field" 

Development and Analysis of the Holcomb Concept

Simulation MagGain animated GIF
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98900#msg98900

More Holcomb MagGain varification
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98901#msg98901

Here are 4 frame captures which contain the Legends
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98908#msg98908

Rolling (or sliding) Magnetic Fields
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98977#msg98977

CONCLUSION - HES LinGen Analysis
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg99112#msg99112
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg99113#msg99113
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg99114#msg99114

Domain Alignment, Relaxation, Re-Alignment and Timing
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg99318#msg99318

Sliding Magnetic Field - 4 Pole Pairs
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg99366#msg99366

Magnetic Gain (Chart - B-H Curve derivitive)
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg99504#msg99504
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg103250#msg103250

Simplified LinGen Block Diagram with B-H charts, inexpensive Gauss/Tesla meter
and other info in the pdf
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg99639#msg99639

BH relationship - Linear versus Non-Linear Energy (some good gifs)
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg100935#msg100935

Misc NOTES and Info
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg100940#msg100940

YES - Excess Energy can, and HAS ALREADY, been achieved!

Holcomb Energy Systems Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/holcombenergysystems

Two Notable Videos:
https://www.facebook.com/holcombenergysystems/videos/?ref=page_internal
At 1:12 ([STM32x] Controller and MOSFETs?). At 1:33 & 1:54 "LinGen."
https://www.facebook.com/holcombenergysystems/videos/happy-new-year/558518552520296
#1 at 0:33 - "Successfully tested the 100 KW HES STAND-ALONE unit by running a
1200 sq ft building TOTALLY OFF THE GRID"

Probably the "first" Verified and Easily Replicatable System to appear in any of the
"so called" FE or OU Forums!


Long post - but a lot of information and analysis was required to complete everything.

SL

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #3046 on: August 29, 2023, 05:43:42 PM »
Development and Analysis of the Holcomb Concept

Simulation MagGain animated GIF
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98900#msg98900
This  comment is related to strong critics by F6FLT I agree with
by comparing "Barbosa / Leal" system. to Holcomb/
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98701#msg98701


The simulations attached  are  proving nothing and are based on parameters that could by any manually imputed to the program.
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More Holcomb MagGain verification
You didn't provide any verification at all but predicted by you outcome with use of more simulations.


CONCLUSION - HES LinGen Analysis
it is a set of  Facebook comments I have no access too nor
I'm willing to  have just because you posted  something there.
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conclusion based on average comments:
F6FLT comment:
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"Increasing efficiency" has nothing to do with "consuming more energy than supplied and paid for".
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=16ks62ji69mecjd3i4b9ere6d5&topic=4261.msg98902#msg98902


quote author=Allcanadian
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg99118#msg99118
addressed to solarlab
comment body:
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I say relevance and not value // as a programmer   
I don't think anyone has any idea what you suppose //.
What I see is... Oh look a graph and some fancy graphics // no justification or substance.
// on par with those nonsensical youtube videos showing a coil attached to a magnet //
Here's a thought, //I call bullshit.
I would consider that as a complete failure to evolve //
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My own conclusions:
In post:
https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg581656/#msg581656
I provided to the audience here three forms of explanation
- the easy, the advanced and the short one.  related to Holcomb claim about:
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a revolutionary new clean energy technology that takes power input from any source – fossil fuels or renewables – and magnifies power output over 50%.

Quote
the electron spin in the iron atom, converting it into usable electricity
while requiring no fuel and releasing zero carbon emissions."
from link:
https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/10/31/2544796/0/en/Astra-Energy-Inc-Joins-with-Holcomb-Energy-Systems-LLC-to-cut-Carbon-Footprints-and-Energy-Bills-by-50.html
Analysis made this process scientifically possible but not yet practically conformed by other competitors.
That doesn't provide any proof of Holcomb technology yet.
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If we theoretically assume that Holcomb started from total BS. and some Medical doctor later on got  a grip on something essential in physics,
than the previous  lack of  patent , and their new patent application filing would  be explained.
Holcomb Quoted text talking about
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magnifies power output over 50%
can be done by any amplifier that consumes always (and never less) more energy than it amplifies.
If Holcomb presents any working device than  its efficiency will be important to analyze.
1. It will never give more  energy than it consumes
2. it may couple to another form of energy  converting it  while acting as a valve only.
That will be  something we are  searching for  in this forum  assuming that   utilized form of energy  is at no charge .
By that we will get Free Energy  FE.
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Interesting to me is SolarLab support  of commercial interest of Holcomb.
He didn't shine in this forum in the past much at all with knowledge, ignorant, arrogant,  often vulgar
crashing like bulldozer  everything on his way if given a chance .
- but don't be fooled by that.  He is fast... gaining a lot ...
His progress of improving his skills is quite visible.
He is familiar with simulations.
Holcomb my have got attracted to his skills offering him
something in return.
Most of young  guys can surprisingly fast learn and perform in the filed and the -field quite unknown to them.
I wouldn't be surprised if he gets level, recognition,  position and carrier, in some of Holcomb mutant  soon.
SolarLab has great potential,  he is intelligent and  pushy, fast learner,  likely having no boundaries stopping his
:  "my way or highway" - idiom .
I wish him truly the best

opinion expressed is my own

Wesley
« Last Edit: August 29, 2023, 09:27:06 PM by stivep »

Offline kolbacict

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #3047 on: August 29, 2023, 07:30:46 PM »

Most of young  guys can surprisingly fast learn and perform in the filed quite unknown to them.
I wouldn't be surprised if he gets level, recognition,  position and carrier, in some of Holcomb mutant  soon.
SolarLab has great potential,  he is intelligent and  pushy, fast learner,  likely having no boundaries stopping his

You don't believe in God. I know.It's your problem. But you just described the behavior of Satan.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #3048 on: August 30, 2023, 12:03:28 AM »
Every Bit Helps

HES ILPG: Used 50KW, Billed 28KW. Sounds pretty good, I guess it works as claimed
and Analyzed using a Professional Computer Aided Engineering (CAE) system as
outlined in the OUR Thread POC starting here:

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98138#msg98138

Nice part is, if you have a bit of skill, it's easy to build and, as you can see, it works!

https://www.facebook.com/holcombenergysystems

All the best and happy Scientific/Engineering Development,

SL

As they say - the dogs bark but the caravan moves on!

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #3049 on: August 30, 2023, 01:49:07 AM »
you just described the behavior of Satan.
quite of a  conclusion. Thank you.
===============================

Nice part is, if you have a bit of skill, it's easy to build and, as you can see, it works!
All the best and happy Scientific/Engineering Development,
SL
This is interesting comment.
  You persist to simulate  some sort of   "convincing image"
     Persisting simply means, you focus your thoughts on your desired end, until it is reprogrammed into
        your subconscious mind and becomes your dominant fear.
           What if it doesn't work?
            ________________________________________________

Three times  I had ask you  the question and you never responded to it,
  If you SolarLab have a bit of skill, and it is so easy, than why you do not  have such device  presented here
    by you as your own  working  model?

      May be it is a fear that once you declare something as yours, and stay true to that desire with full conviction,
          it has no choice but to appear in your 3D form as real you - and that may turn into so much of discomfort.
             Naked  with all imperfections , exposed  to the crowd,
                some sort of simulant - in life - in computer graphics and in achievement.
On the contrary :
- I'm nobody till someone see value in me.
     And I have no problem with it, having ~24 years younger wife psychologist .
       https://youtu.be/WpBpk1Cg7ns
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the dogs bark but the caravan moves on!
It is not your caravan Dear SolarLab.
   Why do you care?
       Wesley

Offline bistander

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #3050 on: August 30, 2023, 05:58:00 AM »
Every Bit Helps

HES ILPG: Used 50KW, Billed 28KW. Sounds pretty good, I guess it works as claimed
...
SL

SL,
Again, they post a "Demand" chart and claim it shows power usage (energy?) savings as well as carbon savings. "Demand" shows a different parameter that is not energy and absolutely unrelated to carbon emissions. I went through this before and posted definitions and links to explain utility power terminology for you. It is indicative of their lack of understanding. They don't know what they're looking at. Heck, demand shows as a line item on my power bill. And it's not the energy.
bi

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #3051 on: August 30, 2023, 06:32:21 AM »
FPL (Florida Power and Light)
Understanding Demand [ https://www.fpl.com/rates/understand-demand.html ]

What is Demand?

Demand is a term to describe how much electricity is used at any given moment. Most businesses have a meter that
tracks and records the highest 30-minute level of electricity demand for each billing period. Demand is measured in
kilowatts (kW), while the total amount of electricity used is measured in kilowatt-hours (kWh).

Let's compare electricity use between two customers, as an example. Both customers use the same amount of kilowatt
hours (kWh) - 20,000 kWh - over the course of a month. The first customer uses a steady amount of electricity over the
30-day period while the second customer uses much of the 20,000 kWh in bursts over a few hours per day or a few days
of the month. Although both customers used the same amount of electricity, the second customer would be charged more
for placing greater demand on the system during the short periods of time when their electrical use peaked.

Here's another way to think of demand. Imagine that every business in your area receives water through a standard one-inch
pipe, and that for most of the businesses in your area, this is sufficient. But you have particular needs that require, on occasion,
more water than is possible to deliver through the one-inch pipe. To meet these peaks in your water requirements, the water
company must install equipment (larger main lines, a larger service pipe, etc.) to get more water to you. The added costs of
this equipment are covered by a "demand" charge when you use more water than can be delivered through the one-inch pipe. 

Why does FPL charge for demand?

If your business requires large peaks of electricity, FPL must be able to supply the electricity and have the infrastructure in
place to deliver it to you. To supply the increased electricity, we must build power plants and add equipment to our distribution
and transformer networks to meet your needs. These additional costs are passed onto users with large peaks in demand in the
form of demand charges.

Above is from the FPL website (above).  Not that complicated IMHO. Also explains why FPL might be interested as well.

If this is in error you should contact FPL and have them correct it!

 Note that the daily temperatures are included within the chart to show what the Demand might otherwise be. {50Kw max load}

Keep in mind this is only one aspect of the technology involved, however it does demonstrate a very significant application.

SL

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #3052 on: August 30, 2023, 08:01:13 AM »
FPL (Florida Power and Light)
Understanding Demand [ https://www.fpl.com/rates/understand-demand.html ]

What is Demand?

Demand is a term to describe how much electricity is used at any given moment. Most businesses have a meter that
tracks and records the highest 30-minute level of electricity demand for each billing period. Demand is measured in
kilowatts (kW), while the total amount of electricity used is measured in kilowatt-hours (kWh).

Let's compare electricity use between two customers, as an example. Both customers use the same amount of kilowatt
hours (kWh) - 20,000 kWh - over the course of a month. The first customer uses a steady amount of electricity over the
30-day period while the second customer uses much of the 20,000 kWh in bursts over a few hours per day or a few days
of the month. Although both customers used the same amount of electricity, the second customer would be charged more
for placing greater demand on the system during the short periods of time when their electrical use peaked.

Here's another way to think of demand. Imagine that every business in your area receives water through a standard one-inch
pipe, and that for most of the businesses in your area, this is sufficient. But you have particular needs that require, on occasion,
more water than is possible to deliver through the one-inch pipe. To meet these peaks in your water requirements, the water
company must install equipment (larger main lines, a larger service pipe, etc.) to get more water to you. The added costs of
this equipment are covered by a "demand" charge when you use more water than can be delivered through the one-inch pipe. 

Why does FPL charge for demand?

If your business requires large peaks of electricity, FPL must be able to supply the electricity and have the infrastructure in
place to deliver it to you. To supply the increased electricity, we must build power plants and add equipment to our distribution
and transformer networks to meet your needs. These additional costs are passed onto users with large peaks in demand in the
form of demand charges.

Above is from the FPL website (above).  Not that complicated IMHO. Also explains why FPL might be interested as well.

If this is in error you should contact FPL and have them correct it!

 Note that the daily temperatures are included within the chart to show what the Demand might otherwise be. {50Kw max load}

Keep in mind this is only one aspect of the technology involved, however it does demonstrate a very significant application.

SL

SL,
FPL has it correct. They know what they're doing. It is Holcomb, and you, who don't know.
bi

edit for further comment.
It is entirely possible for two FPL customers to use exactly the same energy (kWh) in a billing period when one had a demand usage of 50 kW and the other had a demand usage of 28 kW. That does not relate to lower carbon emissions, as they claim. Look it up.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #3053 on: August 30, 2023, 08:34:06 AM »
SL,
FPL has it correct. They know what they're doing. It is Holcomb, and you, who don't know.
bi

edit for further comment.
It is entirely possible for two FPL customers to use exactly the same energy (kWh) in a billing period when one had a demand usage of 50 kW and the other had a demand usage of 28 kW. That does not relate to lower carbon emissions, as they claim. Look it up.


It might reduce carbon if FPL doesn't have to build one, or more, Power Plants!

That's where the CO2 is generated, as you know! Not by the consumer...




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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #3054 on: August 30, 2023, 09:24:22 AM »
This whole idea of Holcomb using FPL charts as a marketing tool is so absurd. Holcomb, the company claiming to have the secret and technology to produce and deliver machines that make free electrical energy, buys their electricity from the local utility supplier. So they want customers to buy these free energy generators from them, but they don't even use them to the full extent now. Big time marketing fubar.
bi

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #3055 on: August 30, 2023, 09:34:36 AM »
This whole idea of Holcomb using FPL charts as a marketing tool is so absurd. Holcomb, the company claiming to have the secret and technology to produce and deliver machines that make free electrical energy, buys their electricity from the local utility supplier. So they want customers to buy these free energy generators from them, but they don't even use them to the full extent now. Big time marketing fubar.
bi


That's it - thats the best you can come up with?

Don't buy one then! Don't even attempt to build one yourself. Quite simple!

Maybe your right - maybe not - time will tell. But they all seem to work OK (stand alone included)

FUBAR - could be, that's why they are selling them - they're FUBAR - but you're the only one who knows that!

And, of course, you know that based upon _____ oh yea, you just know that without any, well, anything! 

Maybe I missed your analysis, build, test, measurements, etc. - just a "Crystal Ball" I guess, must be nice!
But it does appear your "Crystal" might be FUBAR - may be time to have the "Ball" repaired!

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« Reply #3056 on: August 30, 2023, 11:15:13 AM »
This whole idea of Holcomb using FPL charts as a marketing tool is so absurd. Holcomb, the company claiming to have the secret and technology to produce and deliver machines that make free electrical energy, buys their electricity from the local utility supplier. So they want customers to buy these free energy generators from them, but they don't even use them to the full extent now. Big time marketing fubar.
bi

First of all, the marketing (of the power amplifier - in simple words) of HES is designed for a potential buyer, who has very big problems with possession of special technical and energy information (I don't like it either).  I have always said: Holcomb Energy Systems is a commercial project from the first step. Secondly, the most correct way to measure the efficiency is to apply a quantitative measurement indicator (electricity bills are an element of such measurement, but it needs a document showing the real quantitative consumption for a period of time for which the bill is issued. Power moment measurements will not show the real picture, but only the possibilities.  Third question, it is not clear how things are with reactive power, where do they put it when they need to protect the output windings of the generator.  Fourth issue, the user must always provide a load of 1.5-2 times the consumption of the Holcomb installation.  The fifth issue is scaling .... I hope this pilot project, will solve its problems and arising problems. I don't doubt the ability to generate energy, but besides generation itself, there is also the consumer load. Personally, I wish the Holcomb project good luck, especially since someone has already solved a similar problem in a more efficient way.

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/12/blog-post.html

*I supplemented my material with the Stepanov & Кo. decision.

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« Reply #3057 on: August 30, 2023, 11:19:57 AM »
Hope the guys at HES have gotten around to addressing all those issues, if not
their sales might not happen!

Oh, wait, they are already selling stuff! Well, then, I hope it works - their
customers probably have no clue, right!

 ;)


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« Reply #3058 on: August 30, 2023, 11:54:50 AM »
Hope the guys at HES have gotten around to addressing all those issues, if not
their sales might not happen!

Oh, wait, they are already selling stuff! Well, then, I hope it works - their
customers probably have no clue, right!

 ;)

Mass-media marketing and real sales contracts are things that sometimes don't mix. I have not seen a single competent buyer who trusts marketing. For the cost that is advertised, before the sales contract, hire experts to figure it out. Naturally, all of these activities have a clause and obligations of non-disclosure. Therefore, there is no point in expecting to prove anything to anyone.

Hence the puffing of cheeks, in discussing things that are "non-disclosure information". The system is absolutely working as it works, just like a synchronous generator is mechanical.  Holcomb did well, made a working example and put all the diploma holders, with claims that a mechanical generator is a converter of mechanical energy into electrical energy, in cancer. It is this question that does not give rest to pseudo-smart people.

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« Reply #3059 on: August 30, 2023, 12:16:43 PM »
Mass-media marketing and real sales contracts are things that sometimes don't mix. I have not seen a single competent buyer who trusts marketing. For the cost that is advertised, before the sales contract, hire experts to figure it out. Naturally, all of these activities have a clause and obligations of non-disclosure. Therefore, there is no point in expecting to prove anything to anyone.

Hence the puffing of cheeks, in discussing things that are "non-disclosure information". The system is absolutely working as it works, just like a synchronous generator is mechanical.  Holcomb did well, made a working example and put all the diploma holders, with claims that a mechanical generator is a converter of mechanical energy into electrical energy, in cancer. It is this question that does not give rest to pseudo-smart people.


Hi Rakarskiy,

That's why an Investor consults a "good" Investment Manager, who contracts a "good" Technical Analysist!

Age Old process AFAIK. If it appears to have technical merrit, then consult a "good" Busiess Manager to see if the technology has a "future"!   

Then, if need be, have the Technical Analysist contract a "good' Proof of Concept Model/Fab Lab! That's how it's done!

This is what "real" inventors, investors and developers do - pretty much has always been this way! Because it works!

Wave your hands all you want, run around with your hair on fire, do back flips - but, in the end, that's really how it works!

Doesn't matter what anyone's "opinion" or "hug-the-tree" or "save-the-world" philosophy is! Sorry, but that's not how it is...
so get real and understand how it really works - because, that's how it actually works!

SL