Author Topic: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world (Read 449307 times)

pix · « **Reply #150 on:** March 27, 2022, 03:02:59 PM »

Quote from: r2fpl on March 27, 2022, 12:07:36 PM

https://holcombenergysystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Technical-Summary.pdf

...In comparison, the HES alignst the domains and relaxes the alignment, and re-aligns and
relaxes continuously every 4 milliseconds (250Hz) . Therefore we get the magnification effect 250 times per second.

The key = relaxes

Magnetization and demagnetization of ferromagnetic material may be this novelity in Holcomb?

Every flyback and boost converter is doing this.

If we want talk about energy gain, we should talk about utilisation of non linear region of magnetization curve, and only that region- then yes, there is amplification there. But I don't see it in Holcomb setup. For that nonlinearity we should use very soft magnetic material with small demagnetization losses. Such material should have high saturation point, above 1,5Tesla and very narrow hysteresis, nanoperm would be good.
And device should operate only in that nonlinear region, not going into saturation region.
In my opinion better device to utilise gain from nonlinearity od ferromagnetic material would be a flyback converter.
With a large ratio of primary to secondary, like 1:100 it would take a very small magnetizing current to magnetize ferromagnetic core with a few primary turns (without BEMF from secondary during magnetization part "ON") , and during "OFF" time collapsing magnetic field is acting upon 100 times more windings. Some air gap in the magnetic path of such flyback would be beneficial to increase energy level stored in magnetic field.

Cheers.
Pix

lancaIV · « **Reply #151 on:** March 27, 2022, 04:02:33 PM »

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ramset · « **Reply #152 on:** March 27, 2022, 04:09:49 PM »

I see it’s quieter at ( less interruptions /FE noise / tonnage??)
And no sneakers needed to run back and forth to read the page ( do to oversized images posted repeatedly in this thread)
http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/509697-holcomb-energy-systems-the-holy-grail-may-have-arrived#post509831

r2fpl · « **Reply #153 on:** March 27, 2022, 04:32:30 PM »

If the Holcomb devices work, it must use a power source such as some fuel. There's no other way. No spinning the magnetic field will do anything.
It is only needed to perform the conversion of energy into other energy. A possible version is iron conversion. He also writes about it.
The magnetic field is only needed for the conversion process and is frequency and power dependent for iron.
This is similar to NMR but only for a given process.

lancaIV · « **Reply #154 on:** March 27, 2022, 04:38:11 PM »

Quote from: r2fpl on March 27, 2022, 04:32:30 PM

If the Holcomb devices work, it must use a power source such as some fuel. There's no other way. No spinning the magnetic field will do anything.
It is only needed to perform the conversion of energy into other energy. A possible version is iron conversion. He also writes about it.
The magnetic field is only needed for the conversion process and is frequency and power dependent for iron.
This is similar to NMR but only for a given process.

https://overunity.com/13165/the-true-tesla-coil/msg554012/#msg554012

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Method and apparatus for converting energy from the surroundings into electric energy.

The invention relates to a method for converting .kinetic energy present in the surroundings into electric energy, in which the kinetic energy is converted by means of magnetic flux variations, brought about in or near an electrical conductor, into electric energy in said electrical conductor. Preferably use is made of kinetic energy, which is present in the surroundings in the form of magnetic energy to generate an electromotive force in the electrical conductor.

The invention also relates to an apparatus for converting kinetic energy present in the surroundings into electric energy, which apparatus is provided with an electrical conductor and means for generating magnetic flux variations in or near an electrical conductor, for generating from the kinetic energy present in the surroundings, into electric energy in the electrical conductor. Preferably, from the kinetic energy, present in the surroundings in the form of magnetic energy, an electromotive force is generated in the electrical conductor.

It is known from the physics of particles that gravitons can convert, inter alia, into photons as they pass through space and matter, as a result of which energy is released. These photons occur both in space and in matter and they represent energy, i.e. kinetic energy. Said photons, inter alia, determine the mutual interaction between electrons, and said electrons can b.oth emit and receive photons. As is known also electron spin moments can be directed in a material by the technique of permanent magnetization, as a result of which kinetic particles, among which photons, released also start to flow through the material in a direction, the so-called magnetization direction. The disturbed energetic balance is restored by a field of kinetic particles in the surroundings of the material directed along the known magnetic field lines outside the material.

Likewise in the case of an electron current through an electrical conductor, a flow of kinetic particles flowing along the magnetic lines of force will likewise be produced outside or around the conductor. By winding the electrical conductor into the form of a coil , a flow of particles can likewise be produced which is comparable to the flow of particles in the case of a permanent magnet and so a concentrated field of particles is obtained. In the method and apparatus of present invention use is made of abovementioned phenomenon, in which<'> the external field of kinetic particles is influenced such that the energy thereof is absorbed in an electrical conductor. This absorption of kinetic particles energy, among which also heat, can be obtained by means of the application of a suitable stationary magnetic field and/or a variable magnetic field.

For example, by varying or pulsing the electron current through the electrical conductor in the current direction at high frequency, the photon field, which compensates for the balance around the conductor, becomes active to such an extent that photons are absorbed from the surroundings into the electrons in the electrical conductor. As a result, energy is taken up from said surroundings into said electron current.

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Holcomb pulsing controller process ?
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Ufopolitics · « **Reply #155 on:** March 27, 2022, 05:07:51 PM »

Quote from: pmgr on March 27, 2022, 05:30:07 AM

@partzman et al,

The inner part is a rotor consisting of 16 poles.
The outer part is also a rotor consisting of 16 poles.
The poles of inner and outer rotor are aligned and reinforcing when biased.
These 16 poles are grouped in 4 groups of each 4 neighboring poles,
leading to an overall rotor pattern of 4 magnetic poles (N-S-N-S)

The center part is the stator with 36 slots. Since we have 4 poles on the rotors,
we have 4 groups for each phase on the stator.
Each group has 3 coils in series. The coils are lapped with a span of 6, so e.g. 1-7.

This is the slot assignment for the rotor.

x-y means a single coil sitting in slot x (left side of coil) and slot y (right side of coil)
(x1-y1,x2-y2,x3-y3) means these three coils are wired in series

Phase 1 group 1: ( 1-7, 2-8, 3-9 ) facing N pole of rotor
Phase 1 group 2: (10-16, 11-17, 12-18) facing S pole of rotor
Phase 1 group 3: (19-25, 20-26, 21-27) facing S pole of rotor
Phase 1 group 4: (28-34, 29-35, 30-36) facing N pole of rotor

Phase 2 group 1: (13-19, 14-20, 15-21) facing N pole of rotor
Phase 2 group 2: (22-28, 23-29, 24-30) facing S pole of rotor
Phase 2 group 3: (31-1 , 32-2 , 33-3 ) facing N pole of rotor
Phase 2 group 4: ( 4-10, 5-11, 6-12) facing S pole of rotor

Phase 3 group 1: (25-31, 26-32, 27-33) facing N pole of rotor
Phase 3 group 2: (34-4, 35-5, 36-6 ) facing S pole of rotor
Phase 3 group 3: ( 7-13, 8-14, 9-15) facing N pole of rotor
Phase 3 group 4: (16-22, 17-23, 18-24) facing S pole of rotor

For each phase, coils in groups are wired in series as group1 - group2 + group3 - group4 (N-S-N-S)

Hi PmgR,

You were right in the first part, until you wrote the bold sentence by me: "Each Group has three coils in series"...and so, from there on, the explanation is not right.
That is incorrect, each group has Four (4) Coils in series.

This is all about understanding Spatial Geometry...in this setups...

We do not need to be "required" to use any specific configuration of number of poles...as long as we can combine Pairs in series of single coils all along the 360º circumference.

Cheers

Ufopolitics

r2fpl · « **Reply #156 on:** March 27, 2022, 05:08:14 PM »

lancaIV: Patents do not confirm that this is true, and such a device only works that way. In the future, if someone does it, maybe.
You know how many patents of this type are there, right. How many real devices are there?
One thing is for sure, it must be a conversion.

Ufopolitics · « **Reply #157 on:** March 27, 2022, 05:12:33 PM »

Quote from: r2fpl on March 27, 2022, 04:32:30 PM

If the Holcomb devices work, it must use a power source such as some fuel. There's no other way. No spinning the magnetic field will do anything.
It is only needed to perform the conversion of energy into other energy. A possible version is iron conversion. He also writes about it.
The magnetic field is only needed for the conversion process and is frequency and power dependent for iron.
This is similar to NMR but only for a given process.

You are dead wrong pal...period.
No "Fuel" is used here, except for the "Fuel" of DC Magnetic Field GHOSTS DANCING IN A CIRCULAR MOTION...

Ufopolitics

Ufopolitics · « **Reply #158 on:** March 27, 2022, 05:16:33 PM »

Quote from: ramset on March 27, 2022, 04:09:49 PM

I see it’s quieter at ( less interruptions /FE noise / tonnage??)
And no sneakers needed to run back and forth to read the page ( do to oversized images posted repeatedly in this thread)
http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/509697-holcomb-energy-systems-the-holy-grail-may-have-arrived#post509831

Hello Chet,

The fact pages stretch and you need sneakers to run back and forth...is not due just to oversized images...now, on this page we still have to run quarter mile to reach right end...

It is the copied and pasted links here, by Ianca, with a specific longer format that our editor can not correct automatically...

Cheers

Ufopolitics

Ufopolitics · « **Reply #159 on:** March 27, 2022, 05:36:39 PM »

Quote from: r2fpl on March 27, 2022, 12:07:36 PM

https://holcombenergysystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Technical-Summary.pdf

...In comparison, the HES alignst the domains and relaxes the alignment, and re-aligns and
relaxes continuously every 4 milliseconds (250Hz) . Therefore we get the magnification effect 250 times per second.

The key = relaxes

Wrong again...

The "key" is not any relaxation...anywhere.

Every Pair of Coils from each Group are REVERSING POLARIZATION on a timely bases.

In a Four Group set, Two Pairs of Coils are reversing polarity simultaneously...

In a Six Group of Coils Three Pairs are reversing polarity at unison.

There is absolutely NO COILS COLLAPSING TO ZERO -IN STATIONARY ROTORS- AT ANY POINT OF THE ENTIRE OPERATION HERE!!!

So no "relaxation" but reversal of domains at molecular steel levels.

At the same token, these constant reversals do not allow steel cores to saturate ever...magnetically.

It keeps constantly "cleaning domains arrangement" from only one directional orientation to develop at the millisecond level of time.

Ufopolitics

Ufopolitics · « **Reply #160 on:** March 27, 2022, 05:49:15 PM »

THE ONLY START UP "SETTINGS" ON THIS TYPE OF GENERATORS:

The only requirement whenever starting these type of generators -from cold- (after long periods of inactivity)- is to start first at a low "idle" speed...to start "waking up" all randomly set steel alignments...which set them in the reversal axis spatial positioning, ready for higher speeds...

Something similar to what we need to do whenever starting an ICE farting machine...idle at low speed to get the right temperatures on metals, plus allow oil pump to grease all rotating components...
except that the time for these generators in only a couple of minutes.

Regards

Ufopolitics

pmgr · « **Reply #161 on:** March 27, 2022, 05:55:33 PM »

Quote from: Ufopolitics on March 27, 2022, 05:07:51 PM

Hi PmgR,

You were right in the first part, until you wrote the bold sentence by me: "Each Group has three coils in series"...and so, from there on, the explanation is not right.
That is incorrect, each group has Four (4) Coils in series.

This is all about understanding Spatial Geometry...in this setups...

We do not need to be "required" to use any specific configuration of number of poles...as long as we can combine Pairs in series of single coils all along the 360º circumference.

Cheers

Ufopolitics

@Ufopolitics

My write up is correct. I think you probably overlooked the very last line.

For each phase, coils in groups are wired in series as group1 - group2 + group3 - group4 (N-S-N-S)

For each phase, each group 1-4 is in series as well. So total of 12 coils per phase in series. Each group 1-4 of course in proper polarity to match the rotors (N-S-N-S) and have the induction effects add up instead of cancel out.

pix · « **Reply #162 on:** March 27, 2022, 06:08:16 PM »

Series 3 stator coils.
Distributed windings.

pix · « **Reply #163 on:** March 27, 2022, 06:13:20 PM »

Quote from: ramset on March 27, 2022, 04:09:49 PM

I see it’s quieter at ( less interruptions /FE noise / tonnage??)
And no sneakers needed to run back and forth to read the page ( do to oversized images posted repeatedly in this thread)
http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/509697-holcomb-energy-systems-the-holy-grail-may-have-arrived#post509831

Please send lancaIV to addiction rehab.

Guy is on something.

pix · « **Reply #164 on:** March 27, 2022, 06:18:18 PM »

Quote from: Ufopolitics on March 27, 2022, 05:36:39 PM

Wrong again...

The "key" is not any relaxation...anywhere.

Every Pair of Coils from each Group are REVERSING POLARIZATION on a timely bases.

In a Four Group set, Two Pairs of Coils are reversing polarity simultaneously...

In a Six Group of Coils Three Pairs are reversing polarity at unison.

There is absolutely NO COILS COLLAPSING TO ZERO -IN STATIONARY ROTORS- AT ANY POINT OF THE ENTIRE OPERATION HERE!!!

So no "relaxation" but reversal of domains at molecular steel levels.

At the same token, these constant reversals do not allow steel cores to saturate ever...magnetically.

It keeps constantly "cleaning domains arrangement" from only one directional orientation to develop at the millisecond level of time.

Ufopolitics

1. Field reversal means going through ZERO. That means field collapsing. And yes- ferromagnetic material domains changing it's orientation

2. Please explain mechanismo of gain.

Cheers,
Pix

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