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Author Topic: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world  (Read 118792 times)

Offline alan

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1365 on: August 17, 2022, 09:47:29 AM »
Interesting document, thanks or sharing! 
I think the explanation of atmospheric charges is wrong, it's explained as regular induction but without back-torque. 
Inside the center coil both input coils induce an N field, but one grows and one shrinks, this way it's emulating movement of a magnet, so power is induced by motional E instead.
Forget Holcomb, try this  8)   
No need for a special signal, one current must in crease, the other decrease, but the direction must create N towards the output coil. A linear current of di/dt is determined by VL/L, so just flip a -/+DC voltage, but current must remain positive. 

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1366 on: August 17, 2022, 10:00:54 AM »
Hello
Yes, the author, who seems to be from Argentina, makes a good interpretation of the patents in Spanish, however, knowing that the obvious question will be "where does the excess energy come from", he accepts the articles published in the newspapers of the time as true. USA and especially to one of the correspondent in Cuba of the New York Times, in which he ironically refers to its atmospheric origin, something that days later Figuera himself categorically denies, however in my opinion he did make certain that the coils induced have an air core.
Cheers

I don’t think that Figuera patents, which are freely available, have real data about the “zest” of his design.
If the "system" wants to hide something, it will hide it by slipping something that will be taken as true, but will be a lie.

 

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1367 on: August 17, 2022, 11:04:22 AM »
off topic posts from our fisherman friend removed.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1368 on: August 17, 2022, 01:02:12 PM »
Hello, I see that this thread also talks about Clemente Figuera, so I decided to send this excellent work by Julio C. Gobbi, in my opinion the best interpretation of these patents, where he reports, among other things, of coreless induced coils, and where a mathematical approach is also given.

https://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Research%20Papers-Engineering/Download/8688

Cheers

It remains unclear how, at low costs, 1.3 Tesla was obtained in the excitation core, already at the core pole the field will be equal to 1/2 Bm, how did this value manifest itself in the penetrating power vector of the detachable coil circuit? The formula gives just such a sense of induction. If the authors operated with numbers, then the full solution would be viewed.
The second, Counter magnetic fluxes on one conductor, will not induce anything, from the point of view of EMF. The argument based on electric fields is just an assumption, even if it is, then the static field must become vortex, and in the case of this combination, the transformation of static into vortex electric field is not even disclosed, and even if it is possible, in this case .


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1369 on: August 17, 2022, 08:52:50 PM »
my mistake
« Last Edit: August 18, 2022, 01:32:27 AM by phoneboy »

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1370 on: August 19, 2022, 01:00:15 PM »
More food for thought!
I ask materialists not to faint, there is no charge as a particle here!
 

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1371 on: August 19, 2022, 05:41:30 PM »
See Graph

Hi,

I have some questions looking at this graph!!!!!!!!!!

If a factory has a period time, like the plant is not in production for a week for
Christmas break, will there be no electrical savings if the buildings power usage is
below the constant usage in the graph of the HES system?  What I mean is will the
HES system then be the same cost as without the HES system during plant low usage times?

Does the technology need a minimal electrical usage before the system
has a COP > 1?

Could the replications of the Holcomb systems being tested below the threshold
of producing a COP > 1 be a COP>1 if they were tested to a larger load, would they then
come into the range of the HAS systems?

How can the current be so constant with changing loads?
Does the system use a battery backup system to store power on days of
little usage and then draws power from the batteries on high usage days?

Does the system store power to the battery banks at night when power is
lower cost and during the day draws power from the batteries when the
cost of electricity is more expensive in order to lower the overall cost
of the factory?

Lunkster


« Last Edit: August 20, 2022, 01:19:12 AM by Lunkster »

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1372 on: August 19, 2022, 10:05:49 PM »
More food for thought!
I ask materialists not to faint, there is no charge as a particle here!
Rakker, you have a problem with your units in your table, see my image. That should be [volt], not [ampere].
And better check the rest of the table as well as there are more mistakes. I leave it up to you to find them.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1373 on: August 20, 2022, 08:15:54 AM »
Why? Only because official physics decided so.
A volt is a unit of measurement of an electric field, which is related to the Coulomb force of electricity and the "movement" of the electric field at the moment of its vortex state (EMF). Volts is a measure of an electric field, or rather to practice the potential difference of an electric potential for a circuit?
Amps are the "electrical" measurement of a vortex magnetic field. This unit of measurement is directly related to the magnetic field rotating around the conductor.
That's why I put it in its place. Everything falls into place.
If you don't agree, justify! )


The connection between the magnetic field and the electric field is in Ohm's law, where, in fact, the effect of balancing the difference in electric potentials through the formation of a vortex magnetic flux is calculated, provided that the vortex magnetic flux is capable of conduction. The electric field in a conductor is always a surface component of the field. To balance the electrical potentials, a medium is needed and this is not the material of the conductor, but a vortex magnetic field that it can form in this material. I(A) = U(V) / R(ohm)

Vortex magnetic field and electric field, plasma structured formations of the visible and invisible spectrum.
« Last Edit: August 21, 2022, 12:05:19 AM by Jimboot »

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1374 on: August 20, 2022, 11:39:23 AM »
dphi/dt=emf[v] 
u0=henry/meter 
henry=dphi/di 
You say dq/dt=henry/meter * dphi/dt but the units don't match.

Why do you think I/u0=volt or I=u0 * volt? 

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1375 on: August 20, 2022, 01:04:10 PM »
Because you didn't read the table carefully:

The table introduces the concept of charge, both electric vortex [qe] and magnetic vortex [qm]

see table: https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg570053/#msg570053


Do not forget that the equation: [I = U / R] for a chain section, for a complete circuit with a source of a vortex electric field, the equation will take the form: [I = (E - U) / (R + r)]

The magnetic vortex field of a conductor is:  B = u*u0*(I/2piR)   


« Last Edit: August 20, 2022, 03:27:26 PM by rakarskiy »

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1376 on: August 20, 2022, 02:14:16 PM »
Quote
https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg570059/#msg570059
On the uniform input of power to the Holcomb generator, regardless of the load consumption.
It is this component that confirms that its device is a transgenerator. The excitation input will always be the same. He does not disclose the principle of his output circuits, since a voltage regulator must be installed at the output, otherwise, with a decrease in load (i.e. an increase in total resistance), the voltage at the terminals will increase. It is very, very difficult to regulate the transgenerator through the input current. So I am one hundred percent sure that the output block in the Holcomb generator is as complex as the organization of the excitation.

If I had not been involved in the design of the transgenerator, I would also have doubts.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1377 on: August 20, 2022, 09:29:52 PM »
Why? Only because official physics decided so.
A volt is a unit of measurement of an electric field, which is related to the Coulomb force of electricity and the "movement" of the electric field at the moment of its vortex state (EMF). Volts is a measure of an electric field, or rather to practice the potential difference of an electric potential for a circuit?
Amps are the "electrical" measurement of a vortex magnetic field. This unit of measurement is directly related to the magnetic field rotating around the conductor.
That's why I put it in its place. Everything falls into place.
If you don't agree, justify! If you are from Russia, then your diagnosis is clear (there is a moment in your text that is inherent in the arrogance of Russians)


The connection between the magnetic field and the electric field is in Ohm's law, where, in fact, the effect of balancing the difference in electric potentials through the formation of a vortex magnetic flux is calculated, provided that the vortex magnetic flux is capable of conduction. The electric field in a conductor is always a surface component of the field. To balance the electrical potentials, a medium is needed and this is not the material of the conductor, but a vortex magnetic field that it can form in this material. I(A) = U(V) / R(ohm)

Vortex magnetic field and electric field, plasma structured formations of the visible and invisible spectrum.
Rakker, quite insulting your ethnic background comments. FYI I am in the US and not Russian. Please let's leave the politics out of this.


Anyway, you can pick your units in your table as you wish, but at least your equations in your table need to be consistent in terms of units that YOU pick and they are currently not. You can't have one row of your table assume certain units, yet another row is not consistent with that. Overall, all units need to be consistent (however YOU or CURRENT SCIENCE defines them)


Why don't you write out exactly for each different quantity below that you use what the units are"


E, H
D, B
eps0, mu0
current, voltage
Weber, Coulomb
q_E, q_M
phi_E, phi_M


Maybe you are redefining some units?


This is what current physics says:



E [V/m], H [A/m]
D [C/m2=As/m2], B [Wb/m2=Vs/m2]
eps0 [As/(Vm)] , mu0 [Vs/(Am)]
current [A], voltage [V]
Weber [Vs], Coulomb [As]
q_E [C=As], q_M [Wb=Vs]
phi_E [Vm], phi_M [Am]


So please make a post where you bold out what you changed compared to standard physics.


Then apply the formulas in your table and make sure YOUR units match.


You will see they don't as I will show below.


With the current units you have listed, the "Current" row doesn't match. You are stating there that [V]=[C/s] and [A]=[Wb/s], or in other words you have redefined [C]=[Vs] and [Wb]=[As]. Ordinary science says [C]=[As] and [Wb]=[Vs].



Anyway, let's use your new units and see where it goes wrong:


Applying your units to the "charge" row, you would get [C]=[eps_0]*[V/m]*[m2] --> [eps0]=[C/(Vm)]=[s/m] where I have used your new definition of [C]=[Vs]


Similarly you can look at the magnetic part of the "charge" row, you would get [Wb]=[mu0]*[A/m]*[m2] --> [mu0]=[Wb/(Am)]=[s/m].


So both eps0 and mu0 now have the same units [s/m]. We also know that sqrt(eps0*mu0)=1/(velocity of light), so this still holds. Everything still ok so far.


Now let's look at whether the definition of newton [N] still holds in your table.


Per your first rows (electrical) of the table [N/C]=[V/m], or [N]=[(VC)/m)] and with your definition of [C] = [Vs] this now equals [N]=[(V2 s)/m] 



Per your first rows (magnetic) of the table [N/Wb]=[A/m], or [N]=[(A Wb)/m)] and with your definition of [Wb] = [As] this now equals [N]=[(A2 s)/m]


Clearly these two definitions of [N] are not the same and so your table is not correct.


And ordinary science says [N]=[(kg m)/s2]...


Anyway, I hope this shows you that your overall table is not correct as you have written it down. Maybe you had some other unit definitions in mind, but if so, please list them and check your table as I did above to make sure everything is consistent.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1378 on: August 20, 2022, 10:46:58 PM »
katsaps also live in the USA, but I agree we will not specify a dude without a name, who distorts other people's names.
Newton's first law is secondary in its ontogeny to Coulomb's law. Just look at the formulas.
In general, all gravity is the attraction of charged bodies.
The second physics considers Amperes to be the movement of electrically charged particles, which in fact is a gross mistake.
only a vortex electric field moves around the conductor. This is the parameter of electric charge change as a result of permeability. The current strength is a parameter of "conditional" resistance to a change in the electrical parameter, it has a vortex magnetic structure.
The vortex magnetic field and the vortex electric field are like twin brothers, but they have differences. The electric field along the conductor is a conical spiral from a higher potential to a lower one. A vortex magnetic field will always have equal potentials at the ends. This is a property of magnetic flux. The current strength is also the same in all parts of the circuit.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1379 on: August 21, 2022, 12:07:33 AM »
Rakarsky no name calling, no ethnic slurs. Post edited.thank you.