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Author Topic: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world  (Read 121206 times)

Offline Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1305 on: August 07, 2022, 06:40:54 PM »

Hello Cadman and Bistander,

My opinion related to: the X Bar

I believe that X bar is just there as a support for the stationary rotor...
As Bistander mentions, it is quite small and thin to be a Flux return member, related to the steel mass of rotors and stators.

Whenever you guys build one of these units, you will see the incredible vibratios and magnetic force generated when it is in operation.

In one of my tests, where I am adding some outer coils sync with rotor coils...I had to hold the shaft with my hand, because it tends to come out off the stator...with incredible force.

So, yeah, mine also needs that X Member...

Regards

Ufopolitics

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1306 on: August 07, 2022, 06:44:41 PM »
UFO
I think a link was posted to that site ( bill guy ?
It would be very easy to send this topic into
Great depths of debate ( quite a few are trying)


Here it’s not just some YouTuber claiming a result
But someone (Holcomb) well versed in the issues and the legal
Liabilities attached to both sides of a claim!


The very slippery slope of defamation lawsuits require minimal effort on a claimants part
Who already has a legal team ( not some you tuber here).
And Stefan gets that beating
I was told a long time ago
“Never hand a man a stick to beat you with”


Thanks for all you do
Respectfully
Chet K








Offline Cadman

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1307 on: August 07, 2022, 07:07:31 PM »
Hello Cadman and Bistander,

My opinion related to: the X Bar

I believe that X bar is just there as a support for the stationary rotor...
As Bistander mentions, it is quite small and thin to be a Flux return member, related to the steel mass of rotors and stators.

Whenever you guys build one of these units, you will see the incredible vibratios and magnetic force generated when it is in operation.

In one of my tests, where I am adding some outer coils sync with rotor coils...I had to hold the shaft with my hand, because it tends to come out off the stator...with incredible force.

So, yeah, mine also needs that X Member...

Regards

Ufopolitics

Hi Ufo,

Have you seen the picture of the real center rotor like the one in Fig_4? The shaft diameter of it is huge. It's more than that though, the other thing is the rotor - stator - rotor configuration.
Not trying to detract from your work, should anyone think so, just pointing out some observed differences in the patent application I mentioned.



Offline bistander

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1308 on: August 07, 2022, 07:27:17 PM »
Figures 22 - 24 show larger diameter shaft.
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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1309 on: August 07, 2022, 07:32:06 PM »
In Fig_65, can anybody explain "REMAINING WATTS"?
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Offline Cadman

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1310 on: August 07, 2022, 07:52:31 PM »
Watts available in the battery bank would be my guess.

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1311 on: August 07, 2022, 08:14:44 PM »
Watts available in the battery bank would be my guess.

Would that be peak watts, continuous watts, average watts or what? I think they confuse power and energy.

Like how many watts are left in your phone battery? Nonsensical.
bi

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1312 on: August 07, 2022, 08:57:03 PM »

In 1901, two professors at one of the US universities "proved" that a heavier-than-air aircraft could never get off the ground, that it was like a "perpetuum mobile". The US Senate banned the Pentagon from funding development, but three years later the Wright brothers' plane took off, which gave way to aviation development.

Offline broli

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1313 on: August 07, 2022, 09:08:19 PM »
In 1901, two professors at one of the US universities "proved" that a heavier-than-air aircraft could never get off the ground, that it was like a "perpetuum mobile". The US Senate banned the Pentagon from funding development, but three years later the Wright brothers' plane took off, which gave way to aviation development.


This is your typical "skeptic" story but I do want to add to this something. What many people also don't know is that the Wright brothers were involved in a patent war. Sueing everyone they felt infringed on their patent. This made the US aviation industry suffer and airplane development in the US fell so far behind Europe that in WW1 American pilots were forced to fly European combat aircraft, instead.


There's a double lesson in that story. Greed always stops innovation no matter how big the idea is.

Offline Cadman

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1314 on: August 07, 2022, 11:09:25 PM »
Would that be peak watts, continuous watts, average watts or what? I think they confuse power and energy.

Like how many watts are left in your phone battery? Nonsensical.
bi

And as no frame of reference or explanation is given for that graph it can be filed under ‘Useless speculation’ or ‘Waste of time’.

Let's move on.

Offline bistander

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1315 on: August 07, 2022, 11:28:34 PM »
And as no frame of reference or explanation is given for that graph it can be filed under ‘Useless speculation’ or ‘Waste of time’.

Let's move on.

I can move on, but I've noticed dozens of 'hints' in reading the literature from this outfit that tell me they lack basic comprehension of the fundamentals.

And since you brought up magnetic circuits, have you, or anyone taken a look at his LinGen in that regard. I hoped SL would show that on FEMM. There you have one stator and one 'rotor' and just 2 poles.
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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1316 on: August 07, 2022, 11:29:19 PM »
Looks like I got the chalice from the palace. Will delete “it doesn’t work” posts . I think AC may have another thread where that can be discussed. So have at it over there. Edit. https://overunity.com/19206/holcomb-energy-systems-working-theory/msg569684/#new This thread will be for building, not defaming or name calling.


If anyone is confused by the number of patents I suggest you watch Ellen Holcomb’s presentation to investors referenced earlier in the thread. She goes through the evolution of the device from the one with 47 spinning rotors to the solid state version now shipping. Certainly clarified a few things for me.


As far as I’m concerned science struggles to explain much of our natural world. My attitude is if I think the device could work I’ll have a go at building it. If it breaks someone’s laws along the way, not my problem if it does indeed work. But as I said at the start, I won’t be absolutely convinced until I see something self running.

Offline Cadman

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1317 on: August 08, 2022, 12:15:19 AM »
I can move on, but I've noticed dozens of 'hints' in reading the literature from this outfit that tell me they lack basic comprehension of the fundamentals.

And since you brought up magnetic circuits, have you, or anyone taken a look at his LinGen in that regard. I hoped SL would show that on FEMM. There you have one stator and one 'rotor' and just 2 poles.
bi

bi,

I’m as skeptical as the next person about the HES and I won’t believe it until I see it. Too many in the past have proven to be cons.

However the HES does intrigue me a great deal.

I have a pulsed DC experiment that shows an apparent cop>2. I can’t explain it in any way other than the extra is produced by a changing magnetic field in iron. Is that correct? I don’t know but that doesn’t mean the result does not exist. Apparently it does. I can only produce the result from a single 1 ms pulse at this time and the extra takes 220 ms to fully manifest so right now it’s pretty useless. But the apparent OU is there whether I grasp the basic fundamentals or know the correct terminology or not.

Getting right down to it, the HES self runner using DC as the source is a pulsed DC system claiming the extra comes from the electrical steel. If I can produce an apparent OU, even for a fraction of a second, from something similar then I cannot discount HES out of hand.


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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1318 on: August 08, 2022, 12:42:22 AM »
bi,

I’m as skeptical as the next person about the HES and I won’t believe it until I see it. Too many in the past have proven to be cons.

However the HES does intrigue me a great deal.

I have a pulsed DC experiment that shows an apparent cop>2. I can’t explain it in any way other than the extra is produced by a changing magnetic field in iron. Is that correct? I don’t know but that doesn’t mean the result does not exist. Apparently it does. I can only produce the result from a single 1 ms pulse at this time and the extra takes 220 ms to fully manifest so right now it’s pretty useless. But the apparent OU is there whether I grasp the basic fundamentals or know the correct terminology or not.

Getting right down to it, the HES self runner using DC as the source is a pulsed DC system claiming the extra comes from the electrical steel. If I can produce an apparent OU, even for a fraction of a second, from something similar then I cannot discount HES out of hand.
I've seen enough playing with this to make me want to build something bigger. I haven't got near what UFO is showing there (nice work) but I know I can generate a strong magnetic field for less than a watt on other devices with the right coils. Getting a mag field chasing itself cheaply does not seem out of the question

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Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world
« Reply #1319 on: August 08, 2022, 12:46:07 AM »
Hi,

I have a question:
The Holcomb designs look like the original design was for a rotating generator.
Was the physical design for this generator originally suppose to rotate?
OR, was the design purposely made similar to rotating generators for
the easier manufacturing of the generator. Or, why?

The reason I ask is because other motionless generators look so much
different than his designs.  It sure would by nice to see some of the prototypes
that Holcomb went through to get to the current designs.

It would be nice to know the "Ah Ha" moments during the many years of
the development of these devices.

Does anyone know of some of those moments?

Lunkster