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### Author Topic: Converting mass responsible for Dark Matter into Energy  (Read 5818 times)

#### kampen

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##### Re: Converting mass responsible for Dark Matter into Energy
« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2023, 07:51:49 PM »
Just curious, how much WATT real power can be achieved?

#### MGsid

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##### Re: Converting mass responsible for Dark Matter into Energy
« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2023, 11:29:11 AM »

It will depend on primary input power, harmonic used and the number of times wavelength is multiplied. In device that I've made the input power is 200 W and wavelength is multiplied 8 times with 6/5 harmonic, so I can expect 200 W * (1.2^8)^2 so around 3500 W.  Given that primary is not perfectly made, there should be around 3 kW in the center.

You can calculate energy in the center using formula from the presentation that I've attached in second post. Just put some random numbers and calculate energy with and without multiplying wavelength and see the difference.

#### kampen

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##### Re: Converting mass responsible for Dark Matter into Energy
« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2023, 08:50:05 PM »
@ MGsid,
Can You tell me the required Input and Output Voltage?
Is the Output of ca. 3 Kw of useable power?

#### Frederik2k1

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##### Re: Converting mass responsible for Dark Matter into Energy
« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2023, 11:55:35 AM »

It will depend on primary input power, harmonic used and the number of times wavelength is multiplied. In device that I've made the input power is 200 W and wavelength is multiplied 8 times with 6/5 harmonic, so I can expect 200 W * (1.2^8)^2 so around 3500 W.  Given that primary is not perfectly made, there should be around 3 kW in the center.

You can calculate energy in the center using formula from the presentation that I've attached in second post. Just put some random numbers and calculate energy with and without multiplying wavelength and see the difference.

Do you have oscilloscope shots? Are you sure you are not talking about reactive power?

#### MGsid

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##### Re: Converting mass responsible for Dark Matter into Energy
« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2023, 11:55:46 AM »
@kampen

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Can You tell me the required Input and Output Voltage?

Input and output voltage isn't that important and it is up to your design. I have input voltage on primary 9 kV. This is the output of HV transformer.

Output voltage will depend how many turns you will have on secondary tripole coil. What I'm testing now, is that I should have about 1 kV output voltage.
If you want to test it for OU, keep output voltage below 1 kV. It is easier to work with.

But as I've said, it depends on your preferences and design.

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Is the Output of ca. 3 Kw of useable power?

Yes, it is usable power. You can use it to power devices or to create feedback loop, or both.

#### MGsid

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##### Re: Converting mass responsible for Dark Matter into Energy
« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2023, 12:20:10 PM »
@Frederik2k1

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Do you have oscilloscope shots? Are you sure you are not talking about reactive power?

Sorry, I don't have oscilloscope. 3500W is calculated power that can be generated in the center. How much of that will be reactive power will depend on the power factor in your secondary circuit and it can be improved if necessary.

We do not need to over complicate, this is a simple concept.

#### kampen

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##### Re: Converting mass responsible for Dark Matter into Energy
« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2023, 07:26:43 PM »
Sent you a PM, please check.

#### kampen

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##### Re: Converting mass responsible for Dark Matter into Energy
« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2023, 11:47:58 PM »
Can You make and show us a schematic/diagram of your components setup?

#### Kator01

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##### Re: Converting mass responsible for Dark Matter into Energy
« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2023, 02:01:40 AM »
@MGsid

with all these ratios you propose here I would expect that there should also be a ratio between primary and secondary. I do not believe
that you simply can use any kind of secondary because secondaries can be designed as Lamda/2 or Lamda/4, and Lamda 3/4 wavelength

So with all the harmonics which you claim here what wavelength you would tune into ? which one to choose ?

There are a lot of issues to be taken in consideration : ...magnetic-coupling factor, mutual inductance ...and in addition we have the most important factor which is the top-capacitance for example or the coil-capacitance. The secondary can also be regarded as a transmission line...etc

Engineering Analysis The heart of the apparatus used in this project is what is commonly called a "Resonance Transformer." The term was first used in an accelerator context by David Sloan, at Berkeley in the 1930's, to describe a distiibuted (RF transmission line) resonator. (By the way, Sloan published 2 the astonishing remark that resonance transformers "cannot be treated usefully by mathematics"!) It fascinating to note that Sloan's work was actually predated by the earlier work of Nikola Tesla. Sloan mistakenly identified "Tesla Coils" as lumped tuned resonators. The distributed resonance transformers used by Sloan were actually patented by Tesla in the mid-1890's. This distinction has, apparently, gone unnoticed by Western researchers. Recently, Tesla's approach to high power RF power processing has enjoyed renewed interest, particularly in Russian laboratories. During 1990, Tesla transformer technology was identified by a contingent of US pulse power scientists as an area of Soviet excellence and exceptional capability.

Source:

So what does your secret source has to offer concerning these issues ?

Regards

Mike

#### MGsid

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##### Re: Converting mass responsible for Dark Matter into Energy
« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2023, 11:59:58 AM »
@Kator01

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So with all the harmonics which you claim here what wavelength you would tune into ? which one to choose ?

I would chose primary harmonic wavelength. This build is difficult enough so what is the point of tuning secondary to other harmonics and making it even more difficult.

I understand, that there is a lot of nuances involving Tesla coils, but this device does not have to be built as Tesla coil. I've chosen this option because it was easier for me than building version with rotor.

Tuning secondary is the most difficult part in this built and it requires a lot of testing. This concept may be simple, but building device properly is not.

#### MGsid

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##### Re: Converting mass responsible for Dark Matter into Energy
« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2023, 12:35:23 PM »
@kampen

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Can You make and show us a schematic/diagram of your components setup?

Sure. This is standard schematic for Tesla coil, but it will probably still change, as work is in progress.

#### kampen

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##### Re: Converting mass responsible for Dark Matter into Energy
« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2023, 07:42:09 PM »

#### Kator01

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##### Re: Converting mass responsible for Dark Matter into Energy
« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2023, 11:24:28 PM »
MDsid,

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Tuning secondary is the most difficult part in this built and it requires a lot of testing. This concept may be simple, but building device properly is not.
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So you are confirming what I said, and again : why does your secret person "in the know" did not deliver knowlede about this most important process ?

This creates the suspicion in me that this person does not know it himself, or this person does not exist.
It is the usual game, to present incomplete ideas to wait and see if there might be someone in this forum who will sacrifice his time to find out what the alleged "person in the know"  does not know himself. The term for this is "outsourced test bench", without payment.

I assume the pictures you present are legit and show your work...but then...think about what I have said in the above paragraph.

I - for myself- see no particular reason to develop and test an incomplete idea for an "unknown" person or institution.

Information on such complex systems should be as complete as possible

Anyway I wish you success in your endaveour

Mike

#### Cloxxki

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##### Re: Converting mass responsible for Dark Matter into Energy
« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2023, 12:22:04 AM »
Mike, you're going to be right in that assumption a lot of the times.

It's however statistically impossible for it to be the case for every OP, every single time.
You can gain contentment from dismissing every incomplete proposal, that you were alert to this common phenomenon, and called it out.

What will you do, the one time you did the call out, and you dissuaded capable builders from helping out with the last step, let alone yourself from polishing the underlying theory to conform to standards held this day and age?
Had you lived a 100-200 years earlier, which legitimate inventor would you be stalking with letters that their train of research was incomplete and would never amount to anything? One thing science has been consistent with, is being incomplete or narrow focused. To my incomplete knowledge, of course.

I'd like to learn more about the harmonics in place with this consistent concetric scaling factor, and why with 6/5 the number of needed steps is 8. Curious whether sonic resonance would take place with either a coil or a set of concentric circular or octagon in this octagon/decagon pattern. The consistent radius step factor is different from the typical wound coil and ripple effect.

I wonder what an 11/10 step would change. Smaller steps, need for tighter tolerances? More steps to achieve the desired effect? Higher power density? Or merely a different potential and current transformation?
If someone 3-printed from plastic a spool for the octagon coil and perfect central the cylindrical (?) one, would it help to have the winding to stack laterally rather than radially? If one had a copper strip rather than a wire (say 10x the width), could suffice for a coil?

Sadly I can't help with the build but I'll be a keen follower.

#### MGsid

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##### Re: Converting mass responsible for Dark Matter into Energy
« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2023, 01:04:08 PM »
@Cloxxki

Thanks for Your support.

@Kator01

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I - for myself- see no particular reason to develop and test an incomplete idea for an "unknown" person or institution.

Information on such complex systems should be as complete as possible

I understand that you would like to have everything laid down ready on the table, but this ain't gonna always be the case.

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This creates the suspicion in me that this person does not know it himself, or this person does not exist.

And it is easier to write discouraging comments and accuse others of lying than to actually get your hands dirty and try to make a change. But I guess this is the only thing you can do.

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Anyway I wish you success in your endaveour

I don't think so.