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Offline onepower

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #75 on: February 04, 2022, 05:15:09 AM »
Floor
In some sense I agree and decided to change my mind on vaccine mandates.

We should let people decide there own fate and let natural selection run its course. Let the unvaccinated infect themselves, overwhelm the hospitals and seal there own fate. Those who cannot learn or adapt and seem determined to destroy themselves aren't really our problem. Maybe we should let nature decide?...

Maybe there right, my rights and freedoms should always come first. Maybe citfa was right and my thoughts have been corrupted by society. In nature the misguided or weak fall prey to natural selection making room for the more advanced. If intelligence were a lion and ignorance a deer should the lion give the deer its teeth and claws?. Well no, it's absurd, the deer would probably kill the lions to protect themselves. In nature ignorance equals natural selection and it's better to be a lion.

I think I'm done following society, it's a losing proposition and following natural law is the way forward.

Regards
AC


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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #76 on: February 04, 2022, 05:24:35 AM »
Floor
In some sense I agree and decided to change my mind on vaccine mandates.

We should let people decide there own fate and let natural selection run its course. Let the unvaccinated infect themselves, overwhelm the hospitals and seal there own fate. Those who cannot learn or adapt and seem determined to destroy themselves aren't really our problem. Maybe we should let nature decide?...

Maybe there right, my rights and freedoms should always come first. Maybe citfa was right and my thoughts have been corrupted by society. In nature the misguided or weak fall prey to natural selection making room for the more advanced. If intelligence were a lion and ignorance a deer should the lion give the deer its teeth and claws?. Well no, it's absurd, the deer would probably kill the lions to protect themselves. In nature ignorance equals natural selection and it's better to be a lion.

I think I'm done following society, it's a losing proposition and following natural law is the way forward.

Regards
AC


@ AC

 I on the other hand, in no sense agree with your agent provocateur like tactics.

In my humble opinion...

In the short term FE or not, if we cannot resist engaging in this blaming and divisiveness we
will surely be conquered and perhaps never again see the light of liberty.

Offline blueplanet

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #77 on: February 04, 2022, 11:01:23 AM »


Feature
BMJ Investigation
Covid-19: Researcher blows the whistle on data integrity issues in Pfizer’s vaccine trial
BMJ 2021; 375 doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.n2635 (Published 02 November 2021)
Cite this as: BMJ 2021;375:n2635


https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635

Offline blueplanet

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #78 on: February 04, 2022, 11:14:01 AM »


"A report from a purported "whistleblower" alleging that Pfizer falsified data and failed to promptly pursue reports of adverse events in its COVID-19 vaccine trial raised some eyebrows among vaccine experts.


"An article published Wednesday in The BMJ claimed that Texas contractor Ventavia Research Group unblinded patients in the phase III vaccine trial that led to the vaccine's approval and employed inadequately trained vaccinators. The employee, Brook Jackson, who worked as a regional director for Ventavia, is said to have reported her concerns to the FDA.



https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/95484

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #79 on: February 04, 2022, 12:37:05 PM »
In this long article a Canadian Doctor and many other researchers explain how the virus AND the vaccines are injuring and killing people.  A long article but very informative for those willing to listen to the SCIENCE behind the research.


https://www.wnd.com/2022/02/culprit-covid-vaccine-harm-micro-blood-clots/




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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #80 on: February 04, 2022, 02:28:59 PM »
In this long article a Canadian Doctor and many other researchers explain how the virus AND the vaccines are injuring and killing people.  A long article but very informative for those willing to listen to the SCIENCE behind the research.


https://www.wnd.com/2022/02/culprit-covid-vaccine-harm-micro-blood-clots/

Thank you citfta

I hope that AC will read the link as well. So many links related to covid lead to
garbage science that it is easy to make rash assumptions and simply refuse to
hear other views.   I found this article to be instead, well written, research based and
very informative.

  best wishes
          floor

Online floodrod

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #81 on: February 04, 2022, 02:29:44 PM »
Floor
In some sense I agree and decided to change my mind on vaccine mandates.

We should let people decide there own fate and let natural selection run its course. Let the unvaccinated infect themselves, overwhelm the hospitals and seal there own fate. Those who cannot learn or adapt and seem determined to destroy themselves aren't really our problem. Maybe we should let nature decide?...

Maybe there right, my rights and freedoms should always come first. Maybe citfa was right and my thoughts have been corrupted by society. In nature the misguided or weak fall prey to natural selection making room for the more advanced. If intelligence were a lion and ignorance a deer should the lion give the deer its teeth and claws?. Well no, it's absurd, the deer would probably kill the lions to protect themselves. In nature ignorance equals natural selection and it's better to be a lion.

I think I'm done following society, it's a losing proposition and following natural law is the way forward.

Regards
AC

This is getting ridiculous. 

No one who opposes vaccine mandates wants death to the elderly or weak.  We are not rooting for natural selection. We do not want to see our parents, neighbors, or anyone else suffer.

But we do demand that our rulers truly investigate all remedies, including ones that can not be patented or medication that already exists.  Little if any research is going into  remedies that won't divert Tens (if not Hundreds) of BILLIONS into their pockets..  And of course the most invasive type of solution (which programs your DNA to create the spike protein) is the one they choose..

If a drug can not be patented, it is of no interest to them.  Do you want me to find you PROOF that big pharma has no interested in "cures"?  Because I am sure i can..  A patient cured is a customer lost.

There are many many good doctors out there presenting different options for covid protection, but their voices are being silenced.  It is very well possible that people following their advice are healthier and contribute to less transmission than the vaccinated.  But the public at large will not know, nor with it be confirmed because the corruption from the Government and Big Pharma is so massive that any opposing viewpoints or advice that has the potential to disrupt their profiteering is instantly drowned out and silenced before it can truly be explored.

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #82 on: February 04, 2022, 05:35:14 PM »
WE as as Canadians and Americans still bear a great deal of responsibility to the
world in the form of leadership.  I am personally committed to honoring that role
by way of my own willingness to participate in communicating in an open minded,
honest and non provocative way.  I have nothing but gratitude for everyone else who
is also.
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@ floodrod

Now in your opinion, does the fact that FE is 100% clean put all global warming worries to rest, or does the thought of frivolous wastefulness pose more of a threat?

I would like very much to hear your own views on this, as well as those of any others
who will comment.



Online floodrod

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #83 on: February 04, 2022, 07:14:35 PM »
@ floodrod

I would like very much to hear your own views on this, as well as those of any others
who will comment.

My answer may be long winded..  But I believe in intelligent design. I am not a bible thumper, although I do believe in a greater power and covenants (contracts).  For instance, a peach pit will most likely not blow in the wind and will fall under the mother tree where it can not take root. The peach tree needs the help of mobile creatures to spread it's seed.  So the peach tree creates delicious healthy fruit for the mobile creature to eat, in exchange for relocating the pit so the peach species can continue on.  There is an unspoken contract here.  The peach fruit is purposely created to be food for mobile creatures, and no harm comes to the mother tree by us partaking in that fruit.  This is GOOD- and within our rights to partake, as it is a "righteous" activity (righteous= living within one's rights).

Now back to the question at hand-  due to the "intelligent design belief", I must say we were absolutely meant to burn wood. We need heat, and the easiest way that was presented to us was to burn stuff.  All life is carbon based here- and all life decomposes. A fallen tree decomposing causes the same amount of C02 as a burned tree, just burning the tree releases the carbon quicker.  But cutting a living tree to burn sounds like a violation to me.  Instead, we should do our best to only burn already fallen trees / branches that are no longer changing carbon dioxide to O2 and no longer cleaning our atmosphere.

I find it difficult to properly evaluate topics of this nature because much of the so-called "scientific research" presented to us is politically driven or done for profit. And furthermore, it's very selective.  "Carbon Emissions" dominate this topic when Methane is 25X more potent and destructive in the short term.  And factory farming produces more methane than all fossil fuel and transportation combined.

To conclude- if we take only what we must. Use the resources that were given to us by design, and do not over-indulge -  We should be OK.  When humanity is ready for FE it will be given.  Another person may believe the "random universe" theory, then in that case, all my quackery goes right out the window.

The only thing I know for certain is that we don't know much at all.

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #84 on: February 04, 2022, 07:56:42 PM »
It is my view that intelligent design manifests, through the mechanisms
of DNA and evolution. 

I myself find no    inherent    contradiction between the belief in intelligent design
and current theories of evolution.  Many would disagree with me on either side.

I see no other path back to the land, except those of either the near extinction of
mankind or more technological advancement with the intention of returning to
the land.

The hippies tried returning to the land in the 60s and 70s and in many ways it
failed miserably.   Their legacy is that they kindled the recollecting of the old
technologies, primitive skills, organic farming, responsible harvesting, herbal-ism,
family and small community farms many others.

Sorry, that's probably enough said.

  best wishes
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Offline e2matrix

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #85 on: February 04, 2022, 08:32:55 PM »
I didn't really want to get involved in this discussion as it can be very time consuming to defend ones points but I do believe some are waking up.   I think anyone who has seen the information I have dug deep into over that past two years from highly credentialed scientists, doctors, virologists and epidemiologists as well as the politics around the Covid narrative could not help but come to the conclusion that the lockdowns, vaccine mandates and dangers of the vaccines are not good for people.  These mandates and lockdowns are highly motivated by power and profit - $$$ - at great expense to the general public.
     The censorship of the true science and facts and the mainstream media being largely owned by big pharma advertising continues to be a huge problem with getting the real truth to the public.   But it appears progress is being made and recent polls show trust in the mainstream media is at an all time low.   

Offline onepower

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #86 on: February 04, 2022, 10:24:37 PM »
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In my humble opinion...
In the short term FE or not, if we cannot resist engaging in this blaming and divisiveness we
will surely be conquered and perhaps never again see the light of liberty.

After continually seeing society devolve and digress it may be time to reexamine our perspective. Not to blame anyone but look at the problem objectively for what it is. I'm done laying blame...

To be honest I feel better now than I have in a very long time and found a new exciting path forward. Many here were correct and I wasn't looking at the problem objectively. I revisited an old concept I looked at in the past called Objectivism which I have accepted.

Objectivism:
A Philosophy for living on Earth, Ayn Rand
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“My philosophy, in essence, is the concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with productive achievement as his noblest activity, and reason as his only absolute.” — Ayn Ran

I was mistaken and confused societies issues when both relate to the real problem of tribalism. Individualism is a positive alternative and the antidote to tribalism. It's a brilliant philosophy I have now accepted...

https://newideal.aynrand.org/fuel-the-fight-for-reason-individualism-and-freedom/
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To the extent the world has moved forward since the 18th century, it has done so by implementing, however imperfectly, the ideals of the Enlightenment: reason, science, individualism and a government limited by the principle of individual rights. To the extent the world has stagnated or retrogressed, it has done so because of the ascendency of opposite philosophic ideas: mysticism, dialectical “logic” and other pseudo-scientific approaches, collectivism/tribalism, and unlimited government given the power to sacrifice the property and lives of individuals, when doing so is said to be in the “public interest.”

This brilliant philosophy is also reinforced by Gustav Le Bon, The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind, showing how many have digressed into a mob or tribal mentality sacrificing there individuality, intellect and objective reasoning in the process. It's like my eyes have been opened, all I see are opportunities and a bright future. I don't need to carry the worlds baggage and my own happiness and productivity is my future.

Take care
AC




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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #87 on: February 04, 2022, 10:46:36 PM »
I think they used the vaccine to have a potential weapon against people. When they produce a dose of vaccine they added an electronic component with a unique code inside, like a mac address but not necessary that, it could more complex I think. It is like a 'RFID' inside each body, a unique code in each 'RFID': the vaccine code (vc). At start they don't know what is the code vc in each people because when they vaccinate, the nurse take a random vaccine on the box. But after some time, it is possible to link the code vc with the official ID of each people because people uses smartphone (and a lot of others electronic things) and it can explain why they want to have the electronic money, like that each people is forced to pay with a card and when you pay they read also your code vc inside your body. With time, they collate more information and try to match more than one data to be sure it is the good ID. If they add a poison inside an electronic module, it is easy to send a data to release the poison when they want. It is possible to kill a nation like that for example or at least turn off people during a time. It is possible to kill hundreds of protesters if they send a broadcast frame even they don't know the code vc of each people, they need only a transponder with a limited range. It is also possible to neutralize people if they have more than one poison or when a person passes in front of a terminal. I think their technology is only in tested mode for now and maybe there is no poison inside the electronic module but when all that technology will be operational they will add some poisons. It is not only to track people it is also to have the possibility to kill people or to neutralize easily, like that the police don't need a weapon, just a frequency transponder with the code of the people (or not because they can read it at distance with a broadcast frame if there is only one person in front of them). It can be used by police, by gouvernment, army, hackers. Maybe the graphene can be used like a weapon to block the blood in the brain for example (stroke), maybe an electric current can be send between severals electronic components injected with the vaccines and that electric current can cristallized the graphene to create a stroke. If people received several vaccines it is better. The mode of communication, the format of the address are not published like that it is more complex to hack.

If so many gouverments have forced people to vaccinate they are informed but maybe just for the tracking mode not the killing mode. It is easy to hide a mode inside an electronic component. Who can be sure what can do these electronic components ? Especially if more than one component is used. The first step is to force ALL people (they don't want resistance) to vacinate themselves and to test their electronic components. The second step is to force all gouvernments to use the vaccine from the USA when another big pandemy will arrive (soon like some people seem to predict). The third step is to kill all people they don't like when they sleep, no cry, no weapon, just the flies to clean the ground.



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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #88 on: February 05, 2022, 06:33:01 PM »
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 many have digressed into a mob or tribal mentality sacrificing there individuality, intellect and objective reasoning in the process.
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AC
Yes I agree.   This is what social media like Facebook and Twitter along with mainstream media lies have given the world. 

Cheers

Offline onepower

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #89 on: February 05, 2022, 11:50:08 PM »
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/newspaper-smallpox-1885-vaccine-1.6335345
From a doomed church, a 136-year-old story of vaccine mandates and resistance
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The smallpox outbreak of 1885 killed 3,259 people in Montreal alone and 5,964 across Quebec.
During the outbreak, violent riots broke out in the streets of Montreal by groups opposed to the city's vaccination campaign, according to Jonathan M. Berman's When antivaccine sentiment turned violent: the Montréal Vaccine Riot of 1885, published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal.

Here we can see many today are no different than others in the past. There thinking and ability to reason has not evolved. They still think using the same primitive kind of reasoning man did a thousand years ago.

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A being who does not know automatically what is true or false, cannot
know automatically what is right or wrong, what is good for him or evil. Yet
he needs that knowledge in order to live. He is not exempt from the laws of
reality, he is a specific organism of a specific nature that requires specific
actions to sustain his life. He cannot achieve his survival by arbitrary means
nor by random motions nor by blind urges nor by chance nor by whim.

That which his survival requires is set by his nature and is not open to his choice.
What is open to his choice is only whether he will discover it or not, whether
he will choose the right goals and values or not. He is free to make the
wrong choice, but not free to succeed with it. He is free to evade reality, he
is free to unfocus his mind and stumble blindly down any road he pleases,
but not free to avoid the abyss he refuses to see...Ayn Rand

I thought this was a good description of what were seeing today. Man is free to make the wrong choices, but not free to succeed with it or escape the reality of it's consequences. Nobody is exempt from the laws of reality...

Regards
AC