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Author Topic: Canadian trucker rally  (Read 17585 times)

Offline blueplanet

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #45 on: February 01, 2022, 04:12:26 AM »
I understand your decisions and those were for you to make. I have a good friend at work whose mother is fighting for her life from heart complications from the mRNA vaccine.

I just hope our disagreements do not carry over to subjects we do agree upon.  Ie- overunity..


I too have friends who got infected with omicron even after the second vaccination. Even after being jabbed with a booster, the symptoms remain.


Offline e2matrix

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #46 on: February 01, 2022, 07:33:04 AM »
Jim
Let's be clear that the truckers are not being forced to get vaccinated. They just can't drive a big truck and not be vaccinated and must also have a physical, license, insurance, log book, obey the laws and wear a seat belt. So this Nuremberg code nonsense doesn't apply, where do you get all this stuff Jim?. 

My question still stands, so you get what you want and we remove all Covid restrictions and anyone can do whatever they want...then what?.

The hospitals get overwhelmed and millions more could die not including deaths due to all the emergencies and cancelled surgeries. Fair enough, but what about the next pandemic and the one after that?. Living in a make believe world just pretending our problems don't exist doesn't seem like a rational way of solving problems. Seems a little bat shit crazy in my opinion...

Regards
AC
Truckers and nearly everyone has to have a way to eat, pay bills, have a roof over their head (especially in Canada) so any of them or most everyone wanting a life has to work. 

Essential Fact:  Mandating experimental medical treatments amounts to war crimes under the first principle of the
Nuremberg Code: “The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person
involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of
choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form
of constraint or coercion.”
At the very least truckers are under great duress to take the vaccine if they want to continue to work - which is essential for all the basics of life as stated above.  The vaccines are experimental and indeed are experimental genetic modification commonly referred to as 'gene therapy'.  So much so the FDA or CDC had to quickly change their definition of a 'vaccine'.   

The very doctor who was instrumental in designing the mRNA vaccines is warning people (when he isn't being censored or threatened) about the dangers of these so called vaccines as well as warning about the bad outcomes that using them during a pandemic will likely create even more dangerous virus mutations that can't be stopped by any vaccine. 

There are so many reasons to be stopping any mandatory vaccinations that I could write a book on it with all the evidence I've gathered although I have no intention of doing that.  The only people truly benefiting from mandatory vaccines are big pharma and power hungry politicians and of course those at the highest levels who want everyone controlled by digital vaccine passports and an all digital only currency which can be quickly zeroed out based on your social credit score. 

Write a social media post disagreeing with your local school board on mask mandates and your digital currency suddenly goes to zero.  Biden's attorney general already declared parents who oppose school boards as potential domestic terrorists.  Do you see the slippery slope where things are heading unless everyone gets truly informed and starts saying NO.  No more lockdowns, no more mask mandates and NO mandatory vaccines.   

Let people work again!  If you are afraid of getting covid then wear your double triple mask, get a vaccine and stay home except when you have to go out but my freedom does not end where your (irrational) fears begin and if you are truly informed you will know those fears are being programmed into people by lies in the mainstream media and other sources for very nefarious reasons.

Offline onepower

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #47 on: February 01, 2022, 08:58:39 AM »
e2matrix
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Truckers and nearly everyone has to have a way to eat, pay bills, have a roof over their head (especially in Canada) so any of them or most everyone wanting a life has to work.

Essential Fact:  Mandating experimental medical treatments amounts to war crimes under the first principle of the
Nuremberg Code:

This is the kind of thing which concerns me, many are using logical fallacies in place of a compelling argument.

Your trucker example is an appeal to emotion to manipulate an emotional response in place of a valid argument. As well as false cause presuming the mandate constitutes or will lead to war crimes. As well as the bandwagon fallacy assuming many misinformed people somehow constitutes an informed decision.

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Do you see the slippery slope where things are heading unless everyone gets truly informed and starts saying NO.  No more lockdowns, no more mask mandates and NO mandatory vaccines.   

You nailed the slippery slope fallacy.
You said that if we allow A to happen, then Z will eventually happen too, therefore A should not happen.

My argument is very easy to understand, Covid is just another virus. As such we should take whatever actions are necessary to protect ourselves and others. No drama or fallacies are required, it's just a virus and we should try to act like responsible adults.

It's been quite a learning experience. I was wrong and many people have proven they do not have the capacity to change or adapt. In the face of adversity many chose fear and false beliefs over science and common sense. I'm an engineering and science guy, I like to stick to the facts.

Regards
AC


Offline activ25

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #48 on: February 01, 2022, 12:14:54 PM »
The guys do a great job, block a country, maybe if all people stop to work I think the governments will stop their bs
« Last Edit: February 01, 2022, 10:37:28 PM by activ25 »

Offline blueplanet

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #49 on: February 01, 2022, 02:49:34 PM »
The Canadian PM got a positive even though he is fully vaccinated. Since he is fully vaccinated, he is legally allowed to go wherever he likes to spread the virus.


The vaccine doesn't work. The total number of vaccine death has been understated.[size=78%] [/size]

Offline floodrod

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #50 on: February 01, 2022, 03:27:54 PM »
Quote from: blueplanet link=topic=19042.msg563602#msg563602 date=1643723

The vaccine doesn't work. The total number of vaccine death has been understated.[size=78%
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I've seen interviews from nurses saying that they get in trouble, written up, suspended, or even fired for reporting any vaccine related incident to vaers.

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #51 on: February 01, 2022, 04:32:27 PM »
The poorly planned demic

Covid is not all that bad except when someone close to you dies of it.
Still and all its nothing compared to what a viral pandemic can deliver.

It makes no sense.
As a designer virus, it would have been made more potent if it was
intended to cause massive global depopulation.

The Chinese would have had a perfected vaccine ready for their own use before
springing it on the world.  The Chinese sell products to the whole world. If the rest
of the world's economies are off, so is the Chinese economy.

I watched the entire presentation in which Bill Gates is quoted out of context
and which is the basis of the B.S. about his supposed agenda.

Massive human depopulation seems inevitable. Nature correcting an imbalance that
we humans can't seem to address.

These guys (the big players) are opportunists to the max.  Make billions off of humans
suffering ? No problem.  What's new ?

How much of our own time and energy do we want to spend in hateing and harming ?

Offline floodrod

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #52 on: February 01, 2022, 05:07:26 PM »
The poorly planned demic

Covid is not all that bad except when someone close to you dies of it.
Still and all its nothing compared to what a viral pandemic can deliver.

It makes no sense.
As a designer virus, it would have been made more potent if it was
intended to cause massive global depopulation.

The Chinese would have had a perfected vaccine ready for their own use before
springing it on the world.  The Chinese sell products to the whole world. If the rest
of the world's economies are off, so is the Chinese economy.

I watched the entire presentation in which Bill Gates is quoted out of context
and which is the basis of the B.S. about his supposed agenda.

Massive human depopulation seems inevitable. Nature correcting an imbalance that
we humans can't seem to address.

These guys (the big players) are opportunists to the max.  Make billions off of humans
suffering ? No problem.  What's new ?

How much of our own time and energy do we want to spend in hateing and harming ?

I think it's more aligned with widdling away our rights than mass extermination. Keep the people in poverty, keep them scared. And of course divide them..

Then offer the solution.  The sheep will willingly go into the cage for protection as the world economic forum launches the great reset.  You will own nothing and you will be happy.

Floor

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #53 on: February 01, 2022, 05:14:05 PM »
 The naked ape.   :-[

floodrod
 Are you finding what you need in that other topic ?


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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #54 on: February 01, 2022, 05:39:07 PM »
The naked ape.   :-[

floodrod
 Are you finding what you need in that other topic ?

I come to realize that when I start a FE project so many other ideas come from it that it's hard to stay on track. 

Offline onepower

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #55 on: February 01, 2022, 06:57:47 PM »

Nature is about change and either we adapt to the continuous change all around us or we parish. With massive overpopulation and pollution comes increased viruses and disease. This is the way it has been for thousands of years and why many great civilizations in the past were destroyed. All these conspiracy theories and demonizing others show a complete lack of understanding about nature in my opinion.

As a fan of psychology I find all this conspiracy nonsense fascinating. A virus pops up and rather than address the problem many used projection and created a bogey man under every bed. They lay blame on everyone and everything they disagree with demonizing them just like most primitive cultures in the past. Then as the virus got worse so did the projection and the hostility. Like many primitive tribes there now in the denial/sacrificial stage chanting overthrow them, lock them up or worse.

Strange isn't it, most suppose themselves to be evolved and intellectual but at the first sign of trouble the caveman comes out. The bogeyman is everywhere, blame must be laid and sacrifices must be made to placate the gods. It's turned into quite a shit show...

Regards
AC


 

Offline blueplanet

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #56 on: February 01, 2022, 09:06:07 PM »
Over 2 million illegal alliens are currently allowed to cross the american border with no vaccination.  I dont think the vaccine mandate is intended for saving lives.



Offline blueplanet

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #57 on: February 01, 2022, 09:23:20 PM »
I've seen interviews from nurses saying that they get in trouble, written up, suspended, or even fired for reporting any vaccine related incident to vaers.


When the demented president wants more people die, everyone has to listen and obey! 


Offline onepower

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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #58 on: February 01, 2022, 10:28:50 PM »
blueplanet
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Over 2 million illegal alliens are currently allowed to cross the american border with no vaccination.  I dont think the vaccine mandate is intended for saving lives

I don't see the logic, if everyone was vaccinated then only the un-vaccinated illegal aliens would be getting sick. Hell, you could just wait around the hospitals then deport them... problem solved.

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When the demented president wants more people die, everyone has to listen and obey! 

You do understand the former president trump got vaccinated and a booster shot don't you?. He also urged everyone to get vaccinated and wear a mask. Is trump demented as well or is that different?.

AC


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Re: Canadian trucker rally
« Reply #59 on: February 02, 2022, 12:10:56 AM »

You do understand the former president trump got vaccinated and a booster shot don't you?. He also urged everyone to get vaccinated and wear a mask. Is trump demented as well or is that different?.

AC

Personally, I don't like Trump either.. I would go more into that subject- but then you might notice I am a real conspiracy nut!
I will admit I am skeptical that Trump or Biden actually got vaccinated with the real vaccine.   I have no proof, but if I had to place a bet on my life in one way or another, I'd wager neither of them got the real jab..  All just a show to get the sheep to follow.