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Author Topic: 1000000 Kilometer with 1 KWh-battery  (Read 13019 times)

Offline lancaIV

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Re: 1000000 Kilometer with 1 KWh-battery
« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2021, 11:46:33 AM »
calculation : average 1 KWh electric per 100 Km range consume

available 2021 : Yinlong Lithium Titanate Oxide Battery ,300 US$/KWh capacity, 25 000 100% DoD charge cycles ,15,6 Kg/KWh weight

25 000 KWh available by 25 000 charge cycles / 1 KWh = 25 000 x 100 Km = 2 500 000 Km capacity by 15,6 Kg battery ,300 US$ priced

300 US$/ 2 500 000 Km = 0,012 US$cent/Km battery costs ,     

                                  soon 0,01   US$cent/Km

                               or         1   US$cent/100 Km ( only storage excluded the electricity)

with Saburo range extender :

                                       10 000 000 Km per 1 KWh capacity,25 000 cc, battery

                                       by this claim

                                      100 000 000 Km  per 1 KWh capacity,250 000 cc,battery



                     Kilo- = 1000 metres. /Mega- 1000 000 meters./Giga- 1 000 000 000 meters  range "Batterie-Set"

                    100 000 000 Km =                                                100 000 000 000 metres




                                                                                   theoretically "permanent drive",permanent battery re-charge cycle

                                        f.e. as autonomous intercontinental drone


                     civil,military,guerilla,legal and criminal use we can expect ,ABC-weapon/drugs/migrants

means by 8766 KWh delivery per year by 1 KWh/100 Km consume = 876 600 Km autonomous drive per year

( but cause this 1 KWh/100 Km is based by average 40 Km*h velocity = 8766 h x 40 Km = 350 640 Km per year maximal drive range !

  the planetary year time is fixed with 8766 hours,modification physical not possible ::)

Compared  - in average - the US car mileage :

                                    13,500 miles every year  or 21,726 Km every year  =  60 Km per day         )                                                                               

not bad for a claimed 40 US$/KWh production costs "nuclear battery" device and 10 years+ long-life

how much per KW output - only the thermionic converter costs- this inventor calculates ?

Invented heterodyne antenna thermo electric generator is very cheap and small and light and without any moving parts. Its energy efficiency is near 100%. Carnot limit is not relevant.
For example, a hybrid electric vehicle can use four times less fuels vs. ICE, so generating four times less exhausts,
and I have developed a technology for very mass and cheap extraction CO2 from the air.

classical car drive ,modified : Up to 50 hp gasoline ic-engine motorized,up to 144 Km/h maximal velocity/speed
                                                                      by 815 Kg car weight

this is e-drive level

Un moteur électrique de I ch à 6000 tours minute,soit I00 tours seconde,démultiplié par un rapport de I/50,possède une force de couple instantané,à 2 tours seconde à l'arbre, égale à la plage de couple instantané différentiel ou ponc-tuel d'un moteur de 50 ch.

                                                                                                                                                50 ch    = 50 chevals/horses = 50 hp

average consume 1 000 Watts ,let us assume by average 40 Km*h street legal speed/velocity (urban zone)

means 2,5 KWh/100 Km average consume by conventional 4x 500 Watt rated electric motors

means 1,0 KWh/100 Km average consume by modified      4x 500  Watt rated electric motors

without Saburo range extender

with Saburo,by claimed C.O.P. 5x performance,

means 0,2 KWh/100 Km average consume by modified     4x 500 Watt rated electric motor ( magnetic diode, double winding)

                                                The charge time need for an 1 KWh battery ?

                                                                     :o  so long to wait ? 8)

                                 for US average daily 60 Km range and up to 100 000 000 Km charge range

                                            100 000 000 Km/ 60 Km = 1 666 666 days = 4563 years

 But let us begin with the           Lithium Titanate Oxid        (Yinlong or Xalt or ... ) 25 000 + charge cycles /Saburo battery-set :

                          456,3 years free drive are not so bad,is it not ?
           Beyond   Lithium           Natrium Titanate Oxid

 And " Thanks God or A.I . ", the consumer will not have an alternative in our autonomous drive = human driver free future !

                                                             human driver exodus !

fact :               from scientifical view the actual e-cars are 90-99% with battery capacity overestimated/overpowered !

 But statistically speaking, cars stand idle for a good 23 hours a day in the area.
Seen in this way, there are more than 48 million “parking spaces” in  Germany .

                     100 % "totes Fuhrpark Kapital"

                     x 1h/24 h use

                     = 5% ,95% Abbaupotential

                     x 10% down to real need  10% down to 1% from actual KWh battery pack

                     = 99 % less production or less costs


                      1 e-car battery capacity actually = 10 -100 e-cars capacity in future

                      90-99% less material (ab-)use per electric drive car

                     lithium/natrium/aluminium/graphene and other battery materials in use production capacity enough this looks really similar Citroen DS 21/23



                           with Lithium Titanate Oxid battery + Saburo each e-car transforms to an e-power plant

                                             less than 1 US$cent/KWh 24/365 electricity generation

6 KWh consume conventional e-drive               per 100 Km (included brake energy recuperation ?),2008 standart

3 KWh consume modified      e-drive                per 100 Km,2021 standart

0,6 KWh modified e-drive + Saburo C.O.P. 5x   per 100 Km,2021 standart

without "hype" the pure electric car selling worth between 5000 Euros (E.U. Renault-Dacia level) and 2500 Euros (Renault Kwid India level)

             based by their final market price/Kg weight  and Loremo 450/470 Kg Kg car weight



                  a 24/365 4-wheeled LOREMO electric power plant with "electric car"-function for net 4000 Euros in Europe

                 a 500-1000 (KW output dependent) Euros 24/365 "Zero (grid) Energy building" electric source
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Re: 1000000 Kilometer with 1 KWh-battery
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2021, 10:08:20 PM »
Attention : related KILOWATTLABS charge cycles number "1.000.000 charge cycles" claim
the Kilowattlabs Sirius "Supercapacitor" to see as like it is : Lithium Titanata Oxide battery (array) !
So not ,like to read here ,
1.000.000 (1 Mio.) charge cycles but ,
like here calculated :  : 10.000 charge cycles ! By 100% DoD !


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Re: 1000000 Kilometer with 1 KWh-battery
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2021, 10:17:03 PM » Paul-R reply #12
Excuse-moi,I am sometimes chaotic,information-overflowed !  ::) :P
From 1896 Kriegér Eletrolette (with later known KERS included )
to the modern Citi-Mobilette
step-by-step :
                                                speed limit 25 Km/h max

                                                and " power(peak) in hpp or KWp -to-weight in Kg"- ratio observation


                                               speed max. limit 40-45  km/h
                                               and " power(peak) in hpp or KWp -to-weight in Kg"- ratio observation

1.                                   Lavenami


                                               Citycar speed max. limit over 50 Km/h

                                               and " power(peak) in hpp or KWp -to-weight in Kg"- ratio observation

1.                                   to electric KW conversion
2.                                            the most sold US-market e-"car" before Tesla Motors Inc. entry :

                                    this as fundament for the modern Nearly-/Net Zero-Energy car/etrike/quadricycle
                                                                          100 Kg weight mobiles like

Making part in the development progress :        
                                      cheap electric drive (5 US$ KW,15 US$/Kg)and cheap inverter (< 12 US$/KW) , based by 55 KW drive                             
1981 : Mercedes-Benz         
                                        and Nicolas Hayek,

                                        at first in partnership-search with VW and FIAT,            SMART car-concept                ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
100 Kg "egg-mobility"                           with,actually 340 Wh/Kg ,prospected 1000 Wh/Kg LTO-battery   
                                                                     the mobile its body material :


Which travel kind is faster,an overview :
                        for short distances a 25 Km/h fast mobile  ,bike-trike-quad-drone ,is unbeatable !

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Re: 1000000 Kilometer with 1 KWh-battery
« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2021, 12:52:50 AM »
Projekt Negawatt-AUTO (NegaWatt by Amory Lovins,Hypercar )
e-drive rated/nominal :   1,5 KW 12 Volt 

curb weight 99 Kg
power to weight ratio : assumption 1,5 KW /0,745 = 2 hpp/99 Kg = 0,02
Top speed :     25 MPH (40 KPH)

Citroen Ami

e-drive rated/nominal : 6 KW/8 hp  48 Volt
curb weight : 485 Kg

power to weight ratio 16.5 Hp/tonne  or 8 hp/485 Kg = 0,0165
Top speed : 45 Kph (limited , L7e quadricycle rules )

Now :  #9
Interestant the QS AC  motor delivered data       :
48 V 24 Km-h,    60 V   30 Km-h and   72 V     36 Km-h average velocity

what would mean - linear calculated -
                                                             220 V         110 Km-h

Lavenami 1,5 KW DC 12 Volt   to  1,5 KW AC 220 Volt modification
In the mosaic/image the e-drive technical numbers :
The energy delivery source for the Lavenami conventional DC output battery to DC/AC inverter to AC motor ( inrush current calculation and inverter power configuration attention  !)

This is at first "race track"-concept,not for street legal use,

Enthusiasts have established owners' clubs and some have modified their vehicles substantially, adding bigger wheels, jet engines, and high-powered electric motors to propel their C5s at speeds of up to 150 miles per hour (240 km/h).

The R&D for the right weight (Elk-teste)/speed max. and consume per hour/ per 100 Km search and measurement ratio !

After Lavenami,the next "100 Kg weight Cititrike"  tuning project :

The technical numbers , claimed :
2 KWh/ 100 Km consume and 25 Km/h speed = 500 Wh consume per hour

finally : the tuning of  to NetZero-Energy Cityquad

                                         autonomous,external energy- and driver-free , Citymover
                      100 Kg Citymover for later commercial maximal 2500 Euros fob factory individual endconsumer price


                  When a Citroen Ami with 8000 Euros costs leases for 20 Euros per month
                                                       a 2500 Euros alternative leases for less !

When we look for VW Kaefer/Beetle - Fiat 500 - Citroen 2CV  ic-engine numbers,the cars density per household ,the catalyser process energetic losts,the industrial claimed/practical experienced car consume per 100 Km ,we have to observe that in the last 50 years,
                      by less urban average traffic velocity

the traffic units consume increased by over 200 %,independent fron Rio-Kyoto-Paris climate conference

                       thermical engine consume between 60´/70`cars

                       cars with 6 lt. fuel consume/100 Km and   7:1 compression ratio

                       related "modern turbulent times" intelligence

                       cars with 6 lt. fuel consume/100 Km and 14:1 compression ratio
                      a near 100% "fuel + air"  mix consume per 100 Km increase !

                      the sub-/urban metropoles "heat bell", 100% higher exhaust emission by 350 ° Celsius !

                     + in the last decades over 150% room heating energy consume per capita increase
                     ( sqm living area/capita 60´/70´ versus sqm/capita 2021 X in-door average temperature 60´/70´ and temperature 2021 )
                     Fujitsu : between from 0°C to 15° C heating = 100 heat units and 0°C to 20°C = 200 heat units is an one hundert percentage energetic increase,                                                         
                                                                      5°Kelvin more = 100% more

                    this statement in their home project confirmed


                    Post-WW2 generation living comfort and "NewAge"-comfort behaviour
                    12-14° C in winter                                     18-21° C in winter

                    consense : maximum space temperature 18° C,included dehumidification,
24°C+ – Cardiovascular risk of strokes and heart attacks
21-24°C – Increasing discomfort
18-21°C – Comfortable temperatures
16-18°C Discomfort, small health risks
12-16°C – Risk of respiratory diseases
9-12°C – Risk of strokes, heart attacks
<9°C – Risk of hypothermia
                      by law : 18-21 °C ( in German Federation ,estates dependent)
                    and personal body heating ( in summer cooling )          

                Super-insulated clothing could eliminate need for indoor heating  ( 12 Watt per hour consume)
also as 4-seasons open-sky/cabriolet like electric wear

to see here : Daimler Benz reasearch paper/application (80 W per hour consume )
                    btw :


1972 : the Clube of Rome REPORT

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Re: 1000000 Kilometer with 1 KWh-battery
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2021, 02:22:12 AM »

range extending :
a. with Innolith battery,actually R&D 340 Wh/Kg stage, from claimed 1000 Wh/Kg
Super battery from Innolith.
Everyone wants the super battery. And the Swiss company Innolith claims to have really developed a particularly powerful battery. It manages 55,000 charging cycles, does not burn and is also free of exotic materials such as cobalt. In addition, there is an energy density of 1,000 Wh / kg - that is four times higher than anything currently on the market. This should work by switching to inorganic electrolytes. So far, only organic electrolytes have been used in batteries. These entail a higher risk of fire and lower performance. By using inorganic electrolytes, Innolith circumvents both and achieves a higher energy density. Sounds good - and when will this super battery be available? According to Innolith, it should be ready for mass production in three to five years (as of 2020).However, there is a lot of debate in the media as to whether this statement is reliable. Only practical tests will show whether the super battery will be the promised breakthrough.

                                   55,000 charging cycles :  %? DoD


for comparation of this claims
To put that in context, a Tesla Model S has an estimated range, from a single charge, of 370 miles. According to Jackson, replacing a standard Tesla Li-ion power source with an Al-air device of the same weight would produce a range of 2,700 miles.
Furthermore, the power source is claimed to be recyclable, replaceable, environmentally friendly and ethically sourced. Looking at the financial aspect, it works out at 1/7th the cost per kilowatt hour of a Li-ion power source.
 This is why, rather than a battery, it’s more like an engine that uses fuel. We have done tests for 1,500 miles (2,414 km) and power has been constant all the way. And right now, it costs between 29 and 35 euros per kWh for the manufacturer and 0.15 cents per kilometre for the driver,’ he says.

Estimating Hoppers actual calculation base with equipped 200 Wh/Kg battery density and taking Innoliths and/or métalelectrique their 1000 WH/Kg claims we get from Hoppers, to read 60 Km x battery range extending density, factor 5
                                                = 300 Km range extension

and by

electric drive use like Robert Catalan his development

300 Km by battery improvement +  compared conventional drives 100% better efficiency ,improvement factor 2x

                                                = 600 Km drive range possibility .

When 2000 Wh/100 Km translates to 500 Wh consume per hour,by 25 Km/h constant velocity,the PM-/Hallbach-motor improvement decrease to 250 Wh per hour drive electric consume,
this electric consume partially compensating with

a. brake energy recapture
b. solarcell- on-tect
c. American Wind MicroCube turbine/s on tect (by average 25 Km/h each 100 Wh per hour producing)
( not for 2850/2600 US$ ea. but for product costs nearer selling price calculation : 400-500 US$ each Cube )
the MicroCube technology is only by PCT-application commercial saved in the US-market,out from US-borders = open/free source
d.  ....  ::) e.  ....  ;)

Let us call d. and e. "Co-battery,as MEG and/or as rotative generator-set version " ,by 500-300 US$ calculation for constant 500 W output

                           100 Kg Citymover for later commercial maximal 2500 Euros fob factory  individual endconsumer price

When Musks  X Æ A-XII  becomes fifteen years old,she gets the right age for the first Nano-car :


                              OVO = Arzen Egg,Toyota 69 EX-II Egg and Hopper Egg
                             povo = Georgu Constantinescu and Josef Gantz "povo=people=Volks"-mobile/Wagen

or her father brings fast enough and cheap the company small car Vision  for 2500 US$ or less

                                          3d print REPRAP technology in the production process  including
These "pOVO"-mobiles production costs calculation,following official selling price :
for example : $1,319.00 - $1,359.00 / 240 Kg net weight  =    $6 / Kg

we take, for 6 Kg, Innolith/métalelectrique battery with 400- 600 Euros/ 6 KWh capacity

                                            for the low power/capacity 375 Euros for charger/battery-management

for the 1-1,5 KW nominal PM-motor ( reference Schiller-motor and DOE-Freedomcar-project 15 US$/Kg material and production costs)
                                                                              circa 125 Euros

and the car body/equipment the above $6/Kg x 2 for the European Association ( E.U.-Association,_Caribbean_and_Pacific_States ) zone production costs level á 85 Kg mobile weight
 ( body,wheels,brake,...),excluded the extra calculated battery/charger(probably inverter)/motor weight

                                                                              circa 1000 Euros
 + national value added tax
                                = total costs/selling price in the 2500 Euros range

                                  by industrial mass production,1000 (thousand) units p.a. minimum   

                                 for such Hopper/Canyon/Arzen like low-mass-mobiles/scooter/etrikes/equads