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magnetneutralisierung

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Re: Secrets of Friedrich Lüling
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2022, 01:19:33 AM »
Lieber Herr @truesearch

In Demut bitte ich um Verzeihung.
Ich benutze meine Muttersprache, weil ich in dieser denke.
DADURCH, kann ich subtil, dem wissenden Botschaften, Tipps, übermitteln.
In meiner Jugend habe ich Griechisch, Italienisch gelernt, um Homer, Sokrates, Tacitus zu studieren, nicht nur um diese zu lesen.
Ich wollte die Botschaften zwischen den Zeilen herausfinden und verstehen lernen.
Wie auch immer, wenn es erwünscht ist, dass ich mich zurückziehe, Ihr Wille geschehe.

Viele Grüße

Überstzung:

Dear Mr. @truesearch

I humbly ask your forgiveness.
I use my mother tongue because I think in it.
THUS, I can subtly convey messages and tips to the knowing.
In my youth I learned Greek, Italian to study Homer, Socrates, Tacitus, not just to read them.
I wanted to find out and learn to understand the messages between the lines.
However, if it is desired that I retire, your will be done.

Many greetings
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In der Übersetzung ist die „subtile“ Botschaft an Sie, verschwunden. :)

Zum Beispiel:

!!! Herbert R, stellt seine Vorstellung zu dem Lüling Magnetmotor sehr einfach, fast naiv vor, dabei stellt Herr R, fast 50 % des Lüling Prinzips leider „verschlüsselt“ vor.
Nun, ja, vielleicht kann der Wissende, ableiten,
vielleicht hat Herr R. ohne jede Absicht seine Vorstellung des Lüling Magnetmotors auf seine Art vorgestellt. Ich weiß es nicht.

in the translation, the "subtle" message has disappeared. :)
For example:
!!! Herbert R presents his idea of the Lüling Magnet Motor in a very simple, almost naive manner, while Mr R unfortunately presents almost 50% of the Lüling principle as "encrypted".
Well, yes, perhaps the Knower can deduce
Perhaps Mr. R. presented his idea of the Lüling Magnet Motor in his own way without any intention. I dont know

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Maybe reply me with a private message,
this saves the members of the forum an off-topic post

Many greetings

magnetneutralisation

Semi

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Re: Secrets of Friedrich Lüling
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2022, 08:44:27 AM »
Dear magnetneutralisierung,

thank you for your ambitions to contribute here on that matter, very much appreciated.
In order to keep the level of litter to a minimum, Ufo and I pointed out some rules in the first post
of this thread. Just as a friendly reminder:
1st.
Please stick to the common language here, which is English.
If you are more comfortable in German, please don't hesitate to write me in a "private" matter.
2nd.
This is not a Chat or Claim without back-up thread. They are plenty of other threads here you can use for that.
If you found something out, about Mr Lüling himself, or his work, please describe your issue in detail, and above all,
show some evidence. This could be based on the 4K footage, or even your own work.

One more thing, it seems like you are new to this forum, same as me. Ufo is some kind of top dog here, so
my advice to you, study his groundbreaking work and research first. A very good entry point is
LÜLING MAGNET MOTOR, REVEALED & BUILT SUCCESSFULLY_PART 1

If you still think you can add something new to the
Secrets of Friedrich Lüling, you are more than welcome here to present it.
Ufo and I are looking forward to evaluating it.

Best regards
Semi

skywatcher

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Re: Secrets of Friedrich Lüling
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2022, 11:58:00 PM »
My native language also is German, so maybe i understood what the hidden meaning of what magnetneutralisierung wanted to tell us (but i'm not sure):

Maybe it works like this: The rotor has to be soft iron, which can not permanently be magnetized. A magnet is attracting the soft iron, and as it is attracted it's temporarily magnetized. Then the magnet is flipped, which will repel the magnetized iron. If the flipping of the magnet is done fast enough and with the right timing, the soft iron will not be magnetized in the other direction fast enough, so it will be repelled before it will reverse its direction of magnetization.
(this is what comes to my mind after reading his posts, maybe it's BS, but maybe not...)


rstergar

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Re: Secrets of Friedrich Lüling
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2022, 10:18:14 AM »
Hi everyone,

Great work RhineX!

I make animation for you which you shoud try: https://youtu.be/iyOAK90-o1o

Gear ratio is 1:2

Rotor is cut at 90degrees.

The bar magnet is diametrically magnetized, because the attraction force is stronger that way.

Please try and let me know how did it go ;)

Best regards from Slovenia

rstergar

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Re: Secrets of Friedrich Lüling
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2022, 07:09:55 PM »
I create quick update on idea how maybe this can work...

https://youtu.be/HxX__JpcHbM

best regards

RhineX

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Re: Secrets of Friedrich Lüling
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2022, 06:40:17 AM »
Hello,Herbert R.先生跟我们带来了最新作品~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7YvCW4_so8


« Last Edit: November 16, 2022, 02:22:50 PM by Ufopolitics »

Ufopolitics

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Re: Secrets of Friedrich Lüling
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2022, 02:23:11 PM »
Hello,Herbert R.先生跟我们带来了最新作品~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7YvCW4_so8

Hello to all,

As I have said before, and many times by now...you could build a plain steel moving rotor, slow speed, very weak and low torque...by dragging a fully steel rotor surrounded by pivoting magnets...However, it would never have the strength, or the speed required to do any real motor work.
It is a very nicely built machine...but still categorized as a "magnetic toy".
Notice how he stop it with a smooth approach from his hand.
The same thing (principle of rotating a plain steel rotor) was already shown by Manfred Klug.

Regards

Ufopolitics

dom444

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Re: Secrets of Friedrich Lüling
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2023, 03:08:34 AM »
Thank you semi for your information just came across it I have been away for quite a while now but the clear videos have given me more insight into his motor,  my original theory still stands but arrangement is different from what i can see now.
the biggest question mark i have is he is using 4x short stroke hydraulic rams to control the magnet canceling arms you can see the four solenoid valves and one operating ram, is the pump external or run by the motor itself? where is he getting the power to run the solenoids and timing circuit?
i think there are two magnets each side of a steel block with two flat plates top and bottom retracting by the canceling arms depending on rotation direction.
and i suspect the magnets are orientated north and south facing up and down not facing the rotor plates as i originally thought that gives better canceling and more magnetic pull as the rotor plates approach.

Dog-One

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Re: Secrets of Friedrich Lüling
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2023, 08:43:03 AM »
where is he getting the power to run the solenoids and timing circuit?

In the Closed Captioning he mentions a six volt external power source.
He also mentions the solenoid becomes quite warm, which indicates to
me there is more than a few milliamps required to drive it.