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Author Topic: This one is intresting.  (Read 16336 times)

Cherryman

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This one is intresting.
« on: January 19, 2022, 02:54:02 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8G1JCT2c78


Well, old concept.  But very well executed.

Only thing i can think of is maybe a large battery-pack in the base.  But otherwise it looks promising.

Floor

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2022, 05:08:07 PM »
I don't know how it is faked but I do know that while using a
conventional alternator it cannot work.

skybiker63

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2022, 05:37:56 PM »
We should download and save both videos before they are gone
Everything is so nice explained in detail, hard to image that this would be a Fake.

Floor

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2022, 05:48:36 PM »
Lots of details except for any of the details that would matter.
Lots of extranious details is a classic part of scaming.

skybiker63

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2022, 05:57:28 PM »
But wonder what is the reason not to tell the trueth, and this is not one of hundreds indish energy fake videos

Cherryman

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2022, 06:04:32 PM »
I don't know how it is faked but I do know that while using a
conventional alternator it cannot work.


Well he is not using an conventional alternator.  He rebuild the internal part with permanent magnets.  Did you watch it all?

Floor

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2022, 06:07:08 PM »

 
Fake videos over the years, have come from all parts of the world.
There must be thousands of them on the web !
Some have been very elaborate.

Hundreds of them have been examined here at the O.U. forum.

In this modern age a video alone cannot be considered as proof... at all.

Only the details of the construction which then allows some understanding of
why it works and then its replication can validate a device.

Floor

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2022, 06:08:50 PM »

Well he is not using an conventional alternator.  He rebuild the internal part with permanent magnets.  Did you watch it all?

So he says. 
Is there a blue print / schematic some where that I missed ?

Floor

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2022, 06:31:07 PM »
Here is another video from the Tecnología Oculta site.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ4nLZu9q1I

No question at all that this one is total BS.

« Last Edit: January 19, 2022, 11:27:14 PM by Floor »

e2matrix

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2022, 07:22:12 PM »
The video in the OP is just a rip from another guy - Multi tech or something like that.  The Multi tech guy who built that had millions of views on it.  Everything he does is fake but makes himself a lot of money from youtube views.  Google (youtube) doesn't seem to give a damn about misinformation unless it is something negative about vaccines (which they are invested in).   Lots of ways to fake this - hidden wires, batteries etc.

pix

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2022, 11:04:25 PM »
Of course it is possible! :D
It is mechanical system with a feedback. Close looped and self excited.
Anyone did hear about destructive excitement of amplifiers, when non controlled feedback causes amplitude rise and may destroy amplifier??
Audio feedback - Wikipedia
This is the same case.
Electrical current generated by machine with permanent magnets ( modified alternator)- drives electrical motor - motor drives modified alternator- current from alternator drives electrical motor-ect....
Looped system.
Initial energy  to start the process is given by spinning system by operator.
If modified alternator is efficient and generates a little bit more electrical energy that is needed to drive electrical motor ( minus all the system losses of course) -  energy  is accumulating in the system with every revolution. If not controlled - may cause constant acceleration to the point of destruction.
We can avoid uncontrolled energy accumulation by removing it- connecting some load.
So, success of such setup depends on one thing: generator must be developed in such a way that electrical energy (current,voltage) it provides per one revolution exceeds  a little bit energy needed to rotate electrical  motor ( plus all system losses).


Alternator must be carefully modified with permanent magnets to get most efficient setup. Proper positioning of magnets is essential.
I am going to replicate this project .


PS. Explanation for non-technical people. :) 
Imagine you earn 10000$/month, you spend 7000$/month. Your bank account is growing 3000$/month minus bank fees.
The same happens with our looped alternator-electrical motor system. Alternator gives 100/revolution, electrical motor needs 70 to turn one revolution. With every revolution we accumulate 30 minus losses.



Cheers,
Pix




Floor

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2022, 11:33:34 PM »
Sometimes I'm just the one in the position to play the critic.
                              It is needed. 
       Believing blindly can't help anything.
                         Please...
Don't take it too hard, and don't ever let it stop you from experimenting
if / when you think you see something in an idea or design.

               Best wishes
                         floor

MasterPlaster

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2022, 02:27:32 AM »
Its fake. Don't waste your time.

pix

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2022, 11:19:59 AM »
Its fake. Don't waste your time.


You know because you tried ?
I am going to replicate because logically it may work, the same like in acoustic feedback.


Cheers,
Pix

skybiker63

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2022, 11:41:20 AM »
There are several who wants to try it, by my opinion it sounds interesting  :o