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Author Topic: This one is intresting.  (Read 10198 times)

Offline Thaelin

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #60 on: January 31, 2022, 08:39:47 AM »
Hey Ufo
   It will be the key to opening the flood gates to an open system. If it can run a grinder, then it can be used to run in an outside enclosure with lots of batts and inverters. Run it constant for a given set of bats and inverter pair. Wire the house with separate circuits and have as many units to keep the system charged.
   One 250 watt solar can charge a lot of bats with ample sun.
thay
 

Offline knovos

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #61 on: January 31, 2022, 01:19:05 PM »
I was distracted by the Luling machine when I saw these devices. I tried something with magnets and different alternators. If we look at the windmill guys who also convert car alternators into generators, you need extremely strong neodymium magnets to start with. Once you have mounted it, there is an enormous resistance due to the metal laminations in the stator. So a lot of power is already needed to turn the generator. The amount of power that is ultimately produced is much lower than the thousands of kilowatts that are claimed. We also don't see really heavy devices connected. Some are capable of using extremely smart video trucks. But when I see very poor people making these machines I can't imagine how they are able to fake it. There are also machines that have a flywheel, that makes everything different. Anyway, a lot of time is wasted on a machine that in the end is not 100% sure that it works. There are no plans and questions are not answered. They harvest extremely many views and get some money for it. More confidence in the Luling machine, no scam there for sure.

Offline skybiker63

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #62 on: February 06, 2022, 02:38:18 PM »
Sadly it seems to be another Scam, only wondering why some similar constructions are working.
The Video should be 100% fake, at one position on the plexiglas cube you can see the shadow of a power wire going into the wooden board.
Also they do not go fully arround the device by filming it in running modus.
When he hold it in his hands he hides the wire going under his clothes in the left arm. they put cartons boards all over the floor to hide the wire going up to his left leg.
On the left side you even could see the inverter powered by the wallsocket
They had really a lot of action to hide everything...;-)...so they do not create free energy...but they create free money by advertising...

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #63 on: February 07, 2022, 06:37:57 AM »
Question for skybiker63,


In the video when he is walking around with the unit, at exactly the 16:15 time frame, what is that black wire just above his left wrist?


It happens very quickly so you might have to slow the video down to see it.


Thanks, Dusty

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #64 on: February 07, 2022, 10:44:01 AM »
Yes excactly Dusty, this is the wire I also saw, even on your picture you can see the cartons on the floor to hide the wir. You even can see the line of wire under his clothes.
The same wire you can see when it is standing on the clear plastic cube...comming from backside. Now we aproved that this is another scam.
The first points which made me sceptic was their crazy talk about a patent by an oil company...next was that the device did not react to any power consuption as the drilling machine.
They allready used the backside wire trick in another video...this is really high quality scam

Offline RobertF89

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #65 on: February 07, 2022, 01:23:46 PM »
so the guy has a wire hanging in his room and some cardboard on the ground... where on earth do you guys see any connection to the machine he picks up and is moving around ?!

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #66 on: February 11, 2022, 04:28:39 PM »
Ok guys, movie is fake.
I replicated this with 3 hase ansynchronous motor, which have much more coil windings and longer coil-magnet active length. I used 12 slotted rows of   neodymium  magnets  40x15x6mm  on rotor circumference, 24 pcs in total, rotor active length 90mm.
Summarize topics with points:
1. With car alternator you can get 40-60V maximum, because of short active side of coil windings. No matter how strong magnets you install. I spoke with guy who already tried car alternator.
2. With 3 phase motor ( 2,2kW, 1450 rpm, 230/400V) I got 153V at 1200 rpm, 178V at 1700 rpm, 197-200V at 2000 rpm.
3. Incadescent bulbs works fine, but very poor performance to run induction loads on it. I tried my Bosh 800W drill and it was running very slowly, I could stop it by my hand.
4. Not possible to self run with another induction motor.
5. Very inefficient generator. In fact my firts test with running ansynchronous motor on speed above nominal (1450 rpm) with capacitors connected in triangle was more succesfull and I know now that simple 3 phase ansynchronous motor can work as very efficient ansynchronous generator without any modifications.
So guys, don't bother trying to replicate.
This video is fake,  guys just earn money by numbers of views, produce something that attract people to get their attention.


Cheers,
Pix

Offline seychelles

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #67 on: February 12, 2022, 06:32:55 PM »
MAYBE WE SHOULD SPEND OUR VALUABLE TIME ON THIS ONE.
http://www.rexresearch.com/angelo/angelo.htm

Offline skybiker63

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #68 on: February 13, 2022, 12:56:29 PM »
Great Idea, sounds super interesting

Offline seychelles

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #69 on: February 13, 2022, 01:28:50 PM »
I reckon UFO should be very interested into getting the gist of this
super invention.

Offline e2matrix

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #70 on: February 13, 2022, 07:38:10 PM »
pix,  sorry that didn't work out but thanks for trying.  Although there were strong indicators at least from my perspective that this was a scam
we never know for sure without trying.   It's just that nearly all youtube vids on free energy are scams and when you see one person or channel there
posting a whole lot of different devices claiming free energy then there is a very good chance it's fake.   That particular poster had videos that were clearly
fake although the one you replicated was fairly extensive in it's deception.

The last youtube video I saw which seemed a real OU device was Pierre's device discussed here:  https://overunity.com/17609/170-watts-in-1600-watts-out-looped-very-impressive-build-and-video/

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #71 on: February 24, 2022, 05:20:42 PM »
Hi,

I just finish and test my car alternator...

On rotor are magnets 30x10x10 N35
https://www.ebay.de/itm/233951477802?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

When I run it with drilling machine on 2500rpm I get 8V of alternate current... I dont know how much wattage I get... i must test...

so far for now...

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #72 on: March 16, 2022, 01:08:23 PM »
@rstergear
I told You guys, trying car alternator is not going to give impressive results.
Because active length of stator coil sides  "l" interacting with rotor magnets is not long.
Induced electromotive force E=lBVsin alpha
My modified 3 phase motor is much better, gives 170-200V depending of rpms.
It is very important to figure out windings configuration on the stator and position magnets properly, so at the same time one coil side is cut by N pole and other by S pole of rotating rotor.
Otherwise , if you mess it up induced voltages in separate coil will cancel instead of adding up.
Also air gap between rotor and stator is cruicial, so precise machining is important.
Rough designs done with a instant glue having air gap much more than 1mm are poor efficiency.
8 Volts @ 2500rpm is too low, something wrong in your design.
Typically , properly done car alternator will give 40-60V max.


Cheers,
Pix


PS.
It is worth investigating which design is better, and this will be my next task for 3 phase motor:
a) opposite magnetic poles cutting active coil sides  , according to Faraday formula E=lBVsin alpha. This design implements number of magnets= number of poles x number of phases. For 4 pole motor gives 12 magnets on the rotor  N-S-N-S.....
b) opposite magnetic poles cutting coil loops, according  to formula  E=dB/dt. In this design magnetic pole width = individual coil loop width.  In 2 pole motor (3000 rpm) that would be 2 pole design of magnets on the rotor  (N-S), in 4 pole motor ( 1500 rpm) that would be 4 pole magnets design on the rotor(N-S-N-S)


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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #73 on: March 19, 2022, 09:36:19 AM »
Why do you say the alternator for cars are not efficient ? Without diodes, the car's alternator is a 3 phases alternative power.

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #74 on: March 19, 2022, 03:00:50 PM »
Why do you say the alternator for cars are not efficient ? Without diodes, the car's alternator is a 3 phases alternative power.


Because:
1. It was already tried by other guys. There is a forum dedicated for a wind power projects full of topics and projects  for conversion of  car alternators, washing machine motors ect. with permanent magnets. And guys report maximum 60V on modified car alternators.
2. According to formula E=BLv sin (alpha) voltage induced in the conductor immersed in moving magnetic field is depending on magnetic field strength "B", length of inductor "L",  how fast is relative speed of movement "v", and angle between vector of magnetic field lines and condictor "alpha".
 So, you could see, car alternator is shorter than washing machine motor or typical 3 phase motor- induced voltage will be smaller.


Cheers,
Pix