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Author Topic: This one is intresting.  (Read 10200 times)

Offline pix

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #45 on: January 28, 2022, 04:01:49 PM »
One motor stripped.
Now, hardest part to nicely modify rotor with permanent magnets. Measuring, calculations, planning, choosing proper magnets, careful machining.
It will take longer.


Cheers,
Pix

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #46 on: January 28, 2022, 05:35:39 PM »
Nice work pix!  I see you know a lot more about such motors than I first thought.  I just didn't believe the guy in the youtube video is an honest builder but it looks like you may be onto something good here.   


Curious what is the item in a white box with red and two blue caps (outlets?) shown in one of your pics above?

Offline floodrod

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #47 on: January 28, 2022, 06:05:57 PM »
I am leaning towards this video being fake.  As Floor pointed out- this person also has a video claiming free energy by putting spoons on a speaker.  Any credibility this video has is negated by the fact that the channel is proven to spew fake news.


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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #48 on: January 28, 2022, 06:09:26 PM »
Nice work pix!  I see you know a lot more about such motors than I first thought.  I just didn't believe the guy in the youtube video is an honest builder but it looks like you may be onto something good here.   


Curious what is the item in a white box with red and two blue caps (outlets?) shown in one of your pics above?


Distribution panel, power supply for driving motor .


Cheers,
pix

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #49 on: January 28, 2022, 06:12:01 PM »
I am leaning towards this video being fake.  As Floor pointed out- this person also has a video claiming free energy by putting spoons on a speaker.  Any credibility this video has is negated by the fact that the channel is proven to spew fake news.


I think opposite.
Other videos are BS, but this one I find plausible. I was thinking about similiar setup but never did anything real about it.
That's why I started my own project.


Cheers,
Pix

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #50 on: January 28, 2022, 07:39:14 PM »

I think opposite.
Other videos are BS, but this one I find plausible. I was thinking about similiar setup but never did anything real about it.
That's why I started my own project.


Cheers,
Pix

I've been wrong more times than I've been right..  I'll be watching and I hope you prove me wrong..

Offline Ufopolitics

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2022, 07:51:16 PM »
I am leaning towards this video being fake.  As Floor pointed out- this person also has a video claiming free energy by putting spoons on a speaker.  Any credibility this video has is negated by the fact that the channel is proven to spew fake news.

It is not the "same person"...this Chanel just uploads videos from different sources...and yes, I agree there is also a lot of BS Fake stuff.
I agree with Pix, this video here looks pretty good...plus, why spent so much time building all this project, then adding videos to explain and show there is no hidden wires in  HD...plus all other possibilities of fraud asked by random people?

Cheers




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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #52 on: January 28, 2022, 07:59:13 PM »
@Pix,

Since you are starting your calculations of magnets size and strength...I will share this tip, even tough am pretty sure you know it.



In a Generator, the Inducing Magnetic Field width sould be around the size of the Wire Loops width on Stator...

Cheers and good build!!




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Offline Ufopolitics

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #53 on: January 28, 2022, 09:12:32 PM »
Hi Ufo & all,
It's called a Lundell or claw rotor

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Exploded-view-of-a-Lundell-alternator-3_fig3_237464668

And replacing it with PMs cannot increase voltage X10 unless RPM is increased X10.

bi

Edit, ps.  Skew of magnets or pole face edge is done to reduce cogging. No magic there.

Hello Bistander,


Like I said before, I am very familiar with these type  of Alternators...

If you notice, the Inducing Coil runs parallel to Shaft-Axle, and not like in a Home Generator where the Field is Directly projected into the Stator Coils Loops...
On this Alternator the Magnetic Field is REDIRECTED in the Steel Core, generating all upper Claws to be of One pole while the bottom ones are the opposite pole...so, they alternate into NSNSNSNS...etc.
The center Inducing Coil works on 12V DC, after rectified by the Diodes Bridge...and fed by continuous slip ring-brushes into the rotor.
Point here is that by setting Neo Magnets the way they did, the Fields Increase is MUCH greater than original config...plus, it projects field DIRECTLY into the stator wire loops...

These type of Alternators can not produce a Sinewave just like a typical Home one would do @ 60 Hertz typical 120V type deal...simply because of this fact of fields-loops config...

So, a Single Phase Home Generator (eg: Two Poles) is required to spin at 3600 RPM's to generate the 60 Hertz cycle...
This type of Alternator (once configured with two Neos by each Claw) does not need to go at 3600 to generate same power, but much less speed.




Regards




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Offline floodrod

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #54 on: January 29, 2022, 04:29:15 AM »
It is not the "same person"...this Chanel just uploads videos from different sources...

Are you sure?

I poked around his channel and it's full of the same voice, same intro in all the vids, and the descriptions on all of these alternator translations the uploader claims ownership of the project..

Here's one off the same channel that seems like the same guy telling us we can put a coil between 2 repelling magnets and run a playstation or 3 light bulbs from the output.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbm7vi4pP_M

And this one tells us if we jam some wires into a cucumber and label it - and +, we get continual arcing from the power locked up in a cucumber!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdiZG0gb5eg

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #55 on: January 29, 2022, 08:54:58 PM »
@Pix,

In a Generator, the Inducing Magnetic Field width sould be around the size of the Wire Loops width on Stator...


Ufopolitics


Can't be this way.  Magnet width has to be calculated individually to particular stator windings configuration,around size of distance between neighbouring grooves. All depends how your windings are done.
In my case I've spent all day to firure out my motors winding configuration. It is 4 pole 36 grooves  motor. Given rotor diameter and windings layout  I know already number and sizes of magnets I have to use.
24 magnets, width max 8mm, slotted 8 mm. Opposite magnet poles has to cut coil loop at the same time.


Cheers,
Pix

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #56 on: January 30, 2022, 05:36:19 PM »

Can't be this way.  Magnet width has to be calculated individually to particular stator windings configuration,around size of distance between neighbouring grooves. All depends how your windings are done.
In my case I've spent all day to firure out my motors winding configuration. It is 4 pole 36 grooves  motor. Given rotor diameter and windings layout  I know already number and sizes of magnets I have to use.
24 magnets, width max 8mm, slotted 8 mm. Opposite magnet poles has to cut coil loop at the same time.


Cheers,
Pix


I did not write "magnet width"...I wrote Magnetic Field width

Magnetic Field is actually what penetrates the loop causing the induced current...
You should first study an Alternator Stator Windings configuration, which is what the video you have uploaded is based on...then realize the Magnetic FIELD that is created replacing all the cut claws per wire winding (not looped)


But then again, it is your time and money, I was just trying to render my point of views.




Good luck on your project!!




Cheers




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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #57 on: January 30, 2022, 05:38:27 PM »
This is another one. :)
Very crude but works.


How to generate homemade infinite energy with a washing machine motor and an engine ⚡💡💡⚡ - YouTube




I hope this week to make progress with my project. Ordering magnets, rotor diameter has to be reduced on the turning machine.
Cheers,
Pix

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #58 on: January 30, 2022, 05:45:08 PM »
By the way...

Yesterday I found this video, and I laughed out loud...not because of its veracity...but because this guy does not even have tools to do this job...I mean, he takes off the main alternator shaft Nut....with a Chisel and a carpenter hammer...destroy the nut at end, but takes it off...LOL

Video is not edited...


However, he gets it finished, roughly built like hell, ...but it works!!

And if you look closely, those Bulbs are not LED's...but Incandescent Bulbs.

...and not "associated" at all to "Tecnología Oculta website"...


I turned Car Dynamo into 230V Generator




Cheers




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Offline Ufopolitics

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Re: This one is intresting.
« Reply #59 on: January 30, 2022, 06:20:55 PM »
This is another one. :)
Very crude but works.


How to generate homemade infinite energy with a washing machine motor and an engine ⚡💡💡⚡ - YouTube




I hope this week to make progress with my project. Ordering magnets, rotor diameter has to be reduced on the turning machine.
Cheers,
Pix


I would like to see any of these "generators" powering an Air Compressor...or even a small refrigerator...or a wall, small Air Conditioner...

From what I see, it is fine powering small loads, like drills, electric saws and light bulbs...but how about big loads like I mentioned?

IMHO, I believe these generators will crash down trying to power an Air Compressor, for example.

I mean, that is the way to really test the real output of any generator at Peak Output.


However, if they all are real, then they set a point of looping Energy and still some extra to power other components, and that is just great advantage!!


I will try myself a simple setup...I do have it all to do it...but not at this time though...very busy.




Cheers




Ufopolitics