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Author Topic: New electromagnet configuration 4 times out verses in  (Read 5056 times)

Offline jimbo

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New electromagnet configuration 4 times out verses in
« on: January 19, 2022, 07:37:22 AM »
Hello I've seen a new power configuration for a electromagnet .its a rod magnet or stacked neo button magnets surrounded by soft iron large washers or pipe section then that is raped by a large coil of wire .that's pretty much it .the poles must match .north for north .when there's no power the strong flux field from the neos goes to the iron core material and shorts out the flux field but when the power is on the iron becomes a magnet with the same polarity of the neos cutting off the iron from the neos and causing the two fields to join together causing a high jump in flux its 4 out to 1 in .seriously simple and cheap.I can't imagine how this is going to effect pluse motors .like the bedini wheels ect. Or maybe a transformer.


Offline norman6538

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Re: New electromagnet configuration 4 times out verses in
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2022, 02:53:35 PM »
Floor what software are you using to draw?

Floor

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Re: New electromagnet configuration 4 times out verses in
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2022, 04:29:18 PM »
That was in 2013.

Adobe illustrator 8.0

Floor

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Re: New electromagnet configuration 4 times out verses in
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2022, 04:45:56 PM »
I don't know that this works or not.  But thanks for posting it jimbo.

Do you have any links or further descriptions from someone
who had buit one ?

Offline jimbo

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Re: New electromagnet configuration 4 times out verses in
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2022, 04:47:35 PM »
Floor it seems to be missing the iron shell pathway .that's critical .to work it .

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Re: New electromagnet configuration 4 times out verses in
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2022, 04:51:25 PM »
@ Jimbo

 The Iron shell is there.

https://overunity.com/13354/perm-magnet-only-core-with-iron-shell-motor-coil/msg369637/#msg369637

Does this drawing more or less depict the design.

Note... this design was never tried out / tested in that topic.

Offline jimbo

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Re: New electromagnet configuration 4 times out verses in
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2022, 04:52:54 PM »
Floor yes I do have links but I'm not going to post them at this time .I don't care to play the name game that gets people killed .its simple magnet.    iron rap    copper rap   ..magnet is a set of stacked neos .nothing else .you have to pluse it DC. And find the activation watts .. Its enough to give you the device with out killing the person .

Floor

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Re: New electromagnet configuration 4 times out verses in
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2022, 05:01:24 PM »
@jimbo

That is fine with me.
If there are already some measurements or a demo. to compare results
that is  a good thing.

As you have stated, it is an easy one to build. 
So no worries.

Thanks for posting it.

Offline jimbo

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Re: New electromagnet configuration 4 times out verses in
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2022, 08:57:53 PM »
You compare the results by making the magnet core replaceable with a iron one . .it seems that the results were that it achieved the same magnetic flux with only 25% of the power .on one test and another using the same power setting's gave 4 times input . I'll send a drawing as soon as I can draw it .

Offline jimbo

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Re: New electromagnet configuration 4 times out verses in
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2022, 09:00:22 PM »
Sorry I couldn't tell if its the same it might be but not enough detail to tell .windings ect.

Floor

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Re: New electromagnet configuration 4 times out verses in
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2022, 11:35:03 PM »
No worries and thanks again.

           P.S.
          The epoxy is setting on my hollow, soft iron / mild steel core, bobbin as
              I'm  typing.

Offline jimbo

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Re: New electromagnet configuration 4 times out verses in
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2022, 03:26:16 AM »
Here's a drawing

Offline norman6538

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Re: New electromagnet configuration 4 times out verses in
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2022, 02:40:03 PM »
Figurea does something similar to this but he never lets the flux go to zero and thus gets induction from change. But nobody seemed to get that to work.

I thought by now we would see Flynn parallel path motors at our hardware stores.

What happened to them?

Norman

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Re: New electromagnet configuration 4 times out verses in
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2022, 02:37:44 AM »
Don't know about Flynn .but this needs work like as a bedini coil .or a transformer modification .it doesn't go to zero but does put out a lot more flux than a standard iron coil.even some comes on you tube have put neos on the bottom of bedini coils and found improvement. Maybe using a ac signal to drive it back might do it .