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Johnsmith

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Re: Build 2
« Reply #120 on: March 06, 2022, 05:46:13 PM »
 I got a lot of work done between yesterday and this morning.  I'll probably need to buy a new bench top drill press. I followed the assembly instructions when I bought
mine 3 years ago. It said to use the work surface parts are placed on to push the chuck (drill head) into place. This bent something and the holes don't go straight
through the board. Next weekend I'll be able to finish the parts I've got the primary shape and dimensions for. I'll be able to post some before and after pictures so
everyone will know how I'm going about making parts. My new tools allowed me to do more in less time. I even made a 1 3/4 inch by 1 3/4 inch by 20 inch long block.
 The way I was going to make the brackets to hold the parts that will be used like a pool cue went from 4 different pieces to being only 1 piece.  The image shows how
I changed the bracket. And basically yesterday I wasted a lot of time trying to make an overly complicated design. A round hole will also have 4 points of contact with a
square dowel. There will be room for the dowel to move inside the hole. 4 points of contact means less resistance. If a 1 inch in diameter hole is drilled, then there will
be 1/16th of an inch of play at all 4 corners. Doing a lot math is helpful for something like this or any build.

p.s., you can see where I tried routing a radius. End grain tends to tear. If you consider the long arm coming towards you, when the triangle by it's the square dowel, everything will kick to the right. The square blocks will be attached to the arm. I should be able to rout the holes they need. Not as simple as drilling a hole but I won't need to buy another drill press.
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« Reply #121 on: March 08, 2022, 07:41:16 PM »
 I've been checking the alignment on everything. With my previous 4 weight test, it's possible the axle was rubbing against the inside of the disc.
With the first image, the weight wheels have only a small gap between them. Why this matters is for when the cue will kick them out. The second
image shows where I used screws to lock the axles for the wheels in place. I'll need to change to a 1/2 x 2 x 3 5/8 board. Then they'll be solid and
won't have any screws interfering with their moving up to the cue.
 I might only have Sunday morning to get any real work done so will need to be prepared to make the best use of my time. I am also going to start
doing an actual design for the next iteration of this build. I've already ripped a lot of wood that I'll need for it. Most likely it will be a completely new
build. Then the difference between a prototype (learning how to build it) and what it allows for can be seen.

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« Reply #122 on: March 10, 2022, 01:57:00 AM »
 This is the next build that I've already started work on. By having the arms extend upward at a 45º before move outward is the weight wheels
will be able to rollout above the level of the axle. This will increase the amount of torque that the wheel can generate. It will have a radius of 43
inches or 1.09 m.
 I'll need to do a couple of drawings so I'll get the details right. It will have a ring for pulleys. That will be a part of the hub assembly and will not
be a part of what I'm showing now. And in this build I will be doing a lot more detail work. And this is why I've bought so many new tools for. I
know what I'm doing now.And it might take only 1 or 2 months for this build to be built instead of a few years. An example is I'll probably have
the hub core finished this weekend. That's the octagon in the middle of the wheel. And I like how well it fits together. I used 8 pieces of wood and
they formed a nice square. I'm gluing together where the red clamps are. This is because the fitting on top will need to be inserted before all 4
sides can be assembled or if you like the Borg Collective, they will be assimilated.
 I have ordered boot laces for retraction lines and sometime next week I'll have them. I have some aluminum grommets that I can compress so
they'll be locked onto just as wires or cables are secured. If you look at a utility pole that has wires supporting it, look at the banding they use. I'm
just using smaller grommets which can be crimped.

p.s., SketchUp does have a smoothing tool I could use to make the rims more circular. That could take up a lot more memory on my computer
while not changing what I need to know. Basically if things work out for me and I continue on projects like this, I'll need to get a better computer
and subscribe to SketchUp Pro. At the moment this is just a serious hobby for me and inexpensive tools and computers work for now.

p.s.s., with the long arms that go away from the center of the wheel, their length doesn't matter. This is because I can trim them close to the
outside of the rim before routing them flush with it. The difficult part will be getting the rim to be circular. At 86 in. or 2.18m in diameter, it's not small.
And when it will be assembled in sections this might require allowing for it to be trimmed after it's on the wheel. And that is not a fun thing to think
about. But builds like this do present their challenges. It's like these 3 kids saw an obstacle and went up and over it.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CaSOISaKESM/?utm_medium=copy_link&fbclid=IwAR1iciw5b4pGobbunr1bjuIFYYPcU8MtADeFqmzVpN6gEqOBxYS56V4c3aw

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« Reply #123 on: March 11, 2022, 10:17:34 PM »
Good job, have you an idea when you device will be finished ?

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« Reply #124 on: March 12, 2022, 10:47:41 PM »
Good job, have you an idea when you device will be finished ?


 Thanks. It could be another 2 to 3 weeks. I'm hoping I can make most of the parts I need tomorrow. Once I have all of the mechanical
items finished I'll need to work on the catch and release mechanism. Then the lines that hold onto the weights can be released. It
shouldn't be too difficult to get that working right.

p.s., what is a bit frustrating everyone is I bought a shop vac and as it turns out they do not make adapters so they can be connected
to the dust ports on miter saws or table saws. Fortunately I happen to have some neoprene and will need to make my own. Then with
shrink wrap they might even look professionally made.If they work out well then I might advertise on Ebay for custom made vacuum
couplings. That's where I was going to make a sleeve for my tablet.
But for tomorrow I happened to have bought duct tape. Am trying to work cleaner.

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« Reply #125 on: March 13, 2022, 07:16:55 PM »
  The pictures are of the hub core for my next build. I still need to add 1/4 x 1 1/2 inch slots on all 8 sides. I might wait until
next weekend to rout them or by a tool for my drill press and it might go more quickly. This will allow for all 8 arms to be
equally spaced and positioned. Also this hub core was the last thing I worked on today. I have some minor detailing to do
for the parts that I cut for my current build.
 Surprisingly enough, it does take some time to drill, glue and cut wood. This is because everything has to be set up and
adjusted. And with what I need to do or want to do so I can get the parts I cut ready to mount, I'll do that as the week go by.
I'll also post some pictures which will show the stages of manufacturing that parts go through. This will help everyone to
understand why it takes time to build something. Even with THX4 he isn't showing how he writes his programs or designs his
parts which I am sure can require a lot of time and work.
 And by letting everyone know about the manufacturing process, if anyone wants to build a Bessler type wheel of their own,
this will help them. An example is when cutting the kickers, I went with the 31.5º angle which can be locked into on my miter
saw. I wanted 30º but a preset lock position is simpler. And then I found that if I used a spacer when fastening blanks to a
piece of wood, a stop can be used so all cuts will be the same., on each cut of the kickers, I just rotated the saw so I could
cut both angles before switching the blanks I was cutting. Before I realized that I was removing one piece and then fastening
another piece to make one cut. Basically I reduced the amount of work that I did. And if things work out with my current build,
people will know of one source to get some build tips from.
 With the hub core for my next build, I quit trying to measure it because everything was being cut at a 45º angle. So instead,
after making 2 cuts I would measure their faces. I did walk around all 8 sides so material would be removed evenly and any
adjustment that I made to the fence would be the same for all 8 sides. This is where if cutting 2 or 3 faces then you adjust the
fence, if you have the wrong face against the fence then you might've just ruined all of your work and will have to start over
again. Why cutting all 8 sides before making an adjustment can save you from making a serious mistake.
 And with the shop vac (shop vacuum), it didn't seem to suck up much saw dust. But if you look at the picture of the run off table,
it's shelf is clean. Previously it would have a lot of saw dust on it. What the shop vac did was to create a dead air space under the
table saw. This kept about all of the saw dust in one place which makes cleanup so much easier.

p.s., if you look closely, you'll see a metal part inside the hub core. I'll be using a 1/4 inch diameter bolt or screw to lock the axle
into place. Because this will push those parts into the wood, when I used a step countersink it created a soft area for that part to
go into. Still, when it's called trial and error or research and development,  that's when people learn for themselves what works for them.

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« Reply #126 on: March 14, 2022, 02:22:42 AM »
 There is a YouTube channel called Alizee DeFan. I think it was actually Alizee who did the channel.
We did exchange a few messages and context can be telling. ie., how or what a person says. I think
it was her way of promoting women in music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq-aTe77bkA

 Alizee DeFan; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBAiheqyB8Q

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« Reply #127 on: March 14, 2022, 10:48:29 AM »
Donc le C(h)ampus der Elysien [ Helden-/Mars(ianer)/Zermarterte-Feld/Fuersten-Feld )] I would not das Kindche von der Bettkante wegstossen !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvh-ieuM8yg
Vom Fluszbett der Zeit ,natuerli ! 8) ;D J`aime "freche Fruechtchen",avec creme fraiche !

La Isla Lolita.  Aonde ? Lesbos ?

O tempi ,o Mori : https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=alizee+2022
                              Forward to the Past ( like the #126 1rd vid  100% PLAYBACK show )


La Isla (now) Lola,. (comparation Alizee Jacotey , 2000-2021 vids )  PT shout : " Bola !"  ::) ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZZw8NyPq8           

    Watt se nur an der Kersche ham`? :P
                                     https://www.obstbau-steegmaier.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Produkte_Kirschen_Kirschen-969x591.jpg

Salut

OCWL

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« Reply #128 on: March 14, 2022, 11:40:52 PM »
Donc le C(h)ampus der Elysien [ Helden-/Mars(ianer)/Zermarterte-Feld/Fuersten-Feld )] I would not das Kindche von der Bettkante wegstossen !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvh-ieuM8yg
Vom Fluszbett der Zeit ,natuerli ! 8) ;D J`aime "freche Fruechtchen",avec creme fraiche !

La Isla Lolita.  Aonde ? Lesbos ?

O tempi ,o Mori : https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=alizee+2022
                              Forward to the Past ( like the #126 1rd vid  100% PLAYBACK show )


La Isla (now) Lola,. (comparation Alizee Jacotey , 2000-2021 vids )  PT shout : " Bola !"  ::) ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZZw8NyPq8           

    Watt se nur an der Kersche ham`? :P
                                     https://www.obstbau-steegmaier.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Produkte_Kirschen_Kirschen-969x591.jpg

Salut

OCWL


  I think she started this channel; https://www.youtube.com/c/AlizeeDefan
A young Asian girl now promotes female musicians from around the world.

p.s., original La Isla Bonita where she dreams of Pedro; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpzdgmqIHOQ

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« Reply #129 on: March 15, 2022, 12:16:04 AM »
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=la+isla+bonita+text+song
"Madonna" ,Madonna Louise Ciccone,her songs ( and audio-video ) are to understand bivalent (terrestrical/ "heavenly"-spiritual ) : https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Kabbala?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Not a common Pedro but "San Pedro" ! "La Isla bonita" a kind of "Heaven in Social P(e)ace" !
A kind of "love song",for some blasphemy/haeresy !
Sincerely
OCWL

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« Reply #130 on: March 15, 2022, 02:21:47 PM »
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=la+isla+bonita+text+song
"Madonna" ,Madonna Louise Ciccone,her songs ( and audio-video ) are to understand bivalent (terrestrical/ "heavenly"-spiritual ) : https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Kabbala?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Not a common Pedro but "San Pedro" ! "La Isla bonita" a kind of "Heaven in Social P(e)ace" !
A kind of "love song",for some blasphemy/haeresy !
Sincerely
OCWL

 Then "Spanish Lullaby" means when I go to sleep (and when I die) I am in Heaven. Dir hutt Recht, fir e puer wier dat Gotteslästerung.
Vläicht si mir schonn am Himmel? Wa mir op der Venus liewen, wier d'Äerd am Himmel (double entendre meant here). Et ass just eng Saach vu Perspektiv.

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« Reply #131 on: March 15, 2022, 11:05:16 PM »
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=la+isla+bonita+text+song
"Madonna" ,Madonna Louise Ciccone,her songs ( and audio-video ) are to understand bivalent (terrestrical/ "heavenly"-spiritual ) : https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Kabbala?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Not a common Pedro but "San Pedro" ! "La Isla bonita" a kind of "Heaven in Social P(e)ace" !
A kind of "love song",for some blasphemy/haeresy !
Sincerely
OCWL

  With this video, she looks like Alizee Defan; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDDpNaQxn6E
If that is her, we did exchange a few messages. It's possible that my recognizing her got her to have
someone else take over her YouTube channel. If her fans found out then it wouldn't be about her
promoting young women in music. I should've just kept my mouth shut but then the picture of her
would've become know to others eventually.
Alizee Defan; https://www.youtube.com/c/AlizeeDefan

 And then we're back to Bessler's wheel. What about his Maschinen Tractate? http://www.orffyre.com/mt.html
Recognize anything? Je suis une Americain (almost, the 1/2 Norge kind of kills it).
 

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« Reply #132 on: March 16, 2022, 02:20:41 AM »
#130 : nether sentence seems to be an 1:1 phonetics to letter translation ,from Duden and Bibliografische Institute conditioning free translation, personal freelance perspectivity ! ( Language anarcho !? :o ;D ;) )
The scandinavian Genom-part their musicality survived ! 8) ' Junger Wilder ' Artist ,' against all Odds,not Odin  ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bubOcI11sps
To #131 Bessler wheel I will look after : not here and yet ! (  ::) ) Here,but later !  :)
MfG
OCWL

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« Reply #133 on: March 16, 2022, 03:10:20 AM »
#130 : nether sentence seems to be an 1:1 phonetics to letter translation ,from Duden and Bibliografische Institute conditioning free translation, personal freelance perspectivity ! ( Language anarcho !? :o ;D ;) )
The scandinavian Genom-part their musicality survived ! 8) ' Junger Wilder ' Artist ,' against all Odds,not Odin  ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bubOcI11sps
To #131 Bessler wheel I will look after : not here and yet ! (  ::) ) Here,but later !  :)
MfG
OCWL

 There was then but there is now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZoJiTP5XZo

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« Reply #134 on: March 16, 2022, 03:15:40 AM »
 And where you came from; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOeP4p1fjMs
Been there, done that. Today it's either Suicide Squad or Alice in Chains; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nco_kh8xJDs

 From my father's country: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djV11Xbc914 and from France; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPtnetrVOTE

 Because I live in the U.S.I told AB Hammer, rlortie and their friends https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GHN1Mu6VG0

 And for you, there is much love; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTuD8k3JvxQ

 Maybe the German perspective of my situation? Play it over your home stereo and kill the treble and amp up the bass.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMJiZxw6Ef4