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Author Topic: RESSURECTED TINMAN NEW INVENTION.  (Read 16380 times)

Offline seychelles

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Re: RESSURECTED TINMAN NEW INVENTION.
« Reply #75 on: January 11, 2022, 03:59:08 AM »

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Re: RESSURECTED TINMAN NEW INVENTION.
« Reply #76 on: January 11, 2022, 04:55:28 AM »

Offline captainpecan

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Re: RESSURECTED TINMAN NEW INVENTION.
« Reply #77 on: January 11, 2022, 07:30:49 AM »
I have some numbers to report finally. A bit rudimentary but it's a start. I am seeing some of the effect here. I will try and shrink the gap a bit and run the tests again.

Offline captainpecan

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Re: RESSURECTED TINMAN NEW INVENTION.
« Reply #78 on: January 11, 2022, 07:33:47 AM »
@ citfta


Oh I fully assume much of this has been done. I just don't have access to that info here and am learning the hard way. I do appreciate the info you and others have been dropping here. Looks like I am finding very similar to what others have so far.

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Re: RESSURECTED TINMAN NEW INVENTION.
« Reply #79 on: January 11, 2022, 08:40:17 AM »
Nice builds, kudos to you both.

Offline captainpecan

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Re: RESSURECTED TINMAN NEW INVENTION.
« Reply #80 on: January 11, 2022, 09:20:09 AM »
A slight decrease in gap really increased the numbers. So much so, I went over limit fast on my crappy little scale when trying 2 magnets with smaller gaps. It feels way over double with the smaller gap but I can't test it unfortunately. Certainly appears exponential to gap decrease.. Here is a recap of my numbers so far.

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Re: RESSURECTED TINMAN NEW INVENTION.
« Reply #81 on: January 11, 2022, 05:23:42 PM »
edit

Four questions for clarity.

0 degrees on the graph is the point where the torque plate is centered
before the magnet or magnets, correct ?
                         so then ..
The    approach    of the torque plate, would be to the left of 0 on the graph and
should be a     mirror image     of the graph  ?
                              or
The       exit       of the torque plate, would be to the left of 0 on the graph and
should be a     mirror image     of the graph  ?
                        etither way  ?

               Very cool indeed.

Offline captainpecan

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Re: RESSURECTED TINMAN NEW INVENTION.
« Reply #82 on: January 11, 2022, 05:35:59 PM »
I'm sorry, I wasn't real clear there. There is a few degrees of travel in which the movement of the plate shows zero pull force due to the plate being 3/4"  wide and the magnet being 1/2". Zero is set to where the tiniest movement begins to show pull force. To visualize it, it would be exactly where the two edges line up. The magnet and the plate while still being overlapped. 1 degree is beginning to pull the plate out from under the magnet.

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Re: RESSURECTED TINMAN NEW INVENTION.
« Reply #83 on: January 11, 2022, 05:40:16 PM »
No worries, thanks.

Offline captainpecan

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Re: RESSURECTED TINMAN NEW INVENTION.
« Reply #84 on: January 11, 2022, 06:09:35 PM »
I think this kind of explains it better.

Offline Jimboot

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Re: RESSURECTED TINMAN NEW INVENTION.
« Reply #85 on: January 15, 2022, 06:29:55 AM »
Here is my final video on brads motor with the torque plates. The electromagnets are the key.
https://youtu.be/D1lEQGVD1lk good luck to you all

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Re: RESSURECTED TINMAN NEW INVENTION.
« Reply #86 on: January 15, 2022, 07:38:47 PM »
Thanks ! Jimboot

captainpecan measurements

work done as torque plate is pulled from one magnet.

two magnet calcs. not done yet.

A text file is attached below.

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Re: RESSURECTED TINMAN NEW INVENTION.
« Reply #87 on: January 15, 2022, 11:34:38 PM »
It's very good that's what.
With tweeking 1 + 1 = 3 I think is a yes.

                         > 2 to 1 now

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Re: RESSURECTED TINMAN NEW INVENTION.
« Reply #88 on: January 16, 2022, 12:04:12 AM »

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Re: RESSURECTED TINMAN NEW INVENTION.
« Reply #89 on: January 16, 2022, 02:30:51 AM »
Get this dialed in and citfta's all electromagnet version
would be da bomb.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2022, 07:32:01 AM by Floor »