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Title: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on December 02, 2021, 05:57:34 PM
Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator

This Generator is designed in the shape of the Magnetosphere.
The core of the generator has a common switching coil(electromagnet) with
two large permanent magnets on each side of the coil.  There are fins
around this core.  There will be several fins around the core so that
the assembly will look like a sphere.  The fins have permanent magnets
spaced out in the fin in such a way to move flux from one magnet to the
next magnet in the fin and then through the core finally flowing
through the fin again.  One the outside of the permanent magnets in the
fins are coils.  The coils are spaced farther from the permanent magnets
so that the normal flux flow moves from one permanent magnet to another
producing one large ring of flux flow using the core as part of that route.
The magnets and coil in the core are larger that the fin magnets so that the
core can handle the travel of the sum of flux flow from all of the fins in
the generator.

This generator design is different than the Sphere Generator I have already
designed because it uses permanent magnets in the core rather than
core material.  I believe the permanent magnets will provide better
assurance that the large ring magnet function will work.  At least it should
work better than core material.  Also, there is only one coil per permanent
magnet in each fin rather than more coils in the sphere generator.  The
reasons for this change are that having one coil outside the permanent
magnet means it is farther away from the core, this will reduce negative
interaction between the fin coils and the core magnets.  This design
will also allow more fins to be placed into the generator.  More fins
means more power generation.  The coils in the fin need to be large
enough to handle the flux that will be moving through the coils.

The operation of the generator is about the same as the sphere generator
I have already designed.  This new design will operate with more power
and efficiency. 

The way this generator operates is that each fin assembly works in conjunction
With the common core assembly.  The normal flux flow is of each fin is through
 the core creating a large ring magnet.  So, the generator will have several large
ring magnet actions being performed at the same time. 

There is one large coil that has a core that supports all of the flux flowing
Through its core when the power is off to the generator.  Once the power
Is turned on to the coil, the coil produces a magnetic field that opposes
The direction of flux flow through the core.  What this does is it breaks
The large flux ring flow of the flux for each of the fins.  The flux then
Looks and fins the next easiest route for the flux to flow.  Most of the
permanent magnets in the ring will then start to use the core in the coil
that is closest to it in the fin assembly to travel through to get to the
other side of the permanent magnet.  The reason it takes this route is
because the core material is an easier path than an all-air path to get to
that side.
The electric power generation is performed through the coils that are
Beside the permanent magnets in the fin assemblies.  The is wire wrapped
around the coils cores that will have electricity flowing through them
as a result, change in flux movement.  In fact, there is flux either starting to
flow through the coils or reducing their flux flow with each change in the
electrical condition on the one electromagnet at the center of the generator
core.  With the best switching speed for the generator, it means that the
electromagnet can operate at a 50% duty cycle while each coil in the generator
 can collect alternating current 100% of the time.  So, the generator uses one switching
electromagnet operating at a 50% duty cycle to be able to collect electrical
energy from several coils at the same time. 
The electrical energy to produce a magnetic field for a 50% duty cycle in this
Generator should be a lot smaller than the several coils producing electrical
Energy from the several permanent magnets that are changing their flux
Routes.  This is similar to a FET or transistor where a larger amount of energy
 is being controlled by a smaller one.
Please build one of these, you will be glad you did.

Lunkster
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on December 06, 2021, 11:55:41 PM

The following drawing is for a Mechanical Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Why would anyone want a mechanical generator if a motionless generator is available?

This generator could be installed in current wind generators.
With a sphere generator containing several fins, each
fin having about six permanent magnet/coil pairs in them.
The sphere with 16 fins in it would have 96 pairs in it. 

Since the one turning permanent magnet in the middle of
the core is rotating to switch the flow of the sphere in and out
of magnetosphere function, then each magnet/coil
pair will be constantly changing the majority of flux flow between
them.

The flux switching in the core causes the flux flow in each permanent
magnet to change its flow from moving through the core by way of going
through the other permanent magnets in the fin to that of each permanent
magnet having its major of flux flow through the coil closest to it in the
fin assembly. 

This constant rerouting of flux causes a constant changing of
flux flow in the core of each coil.  Electrical energy is created with each
flux flow change.  The electrical energy generated from 96 coils
should make this generator design one of the best there is in my mind.

Applications like wind power generation and water flow to
rotate the permanent magnet in the main core are a few application
for power generation with this generator.

This generator should produce more electrical power in my mind
than other mechanical generators.

If the Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
can produce more electrical power than what is needed to
power the electromagnet operating at a 50% duty cycle,
then this Mechanical generator may the next best thing.

Lunkster

Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Floor on December 07, 2021, 04:37:00 PM
Liking the creativity Lunkster.

Idea...

Two identical units.

Completely magnetically isolated from each other.

Their rotating magnets, sharing a common axle upon which they rotate.

The magnet interactions (attraction and repulsion) would be 180 degrees out from
each other.  i.e. The one attracting when the other is repelling.


At near distances attraction forces would be greater than repelling forces.

At far distances repelling forces would be greater than attracting forces,
although both kinds of forces would be weaker than when at near distances.

Some where in a mid range of distances, attracting and repelling forces
would be approximately equal, although both kinds of forces would be weaker
than if at near distances.

But the energy expended to cause mechanical rotation against the magnet forces
would be counteracted / neutralized to a large degree.

If it resulted in O.U. it would be worth having sacrificed utilizing the maximum
available magnetic forces of the rotating magnets, which would have existed if
the rotating magnets were at  close distances to the fixed magnets (as you have illustrated).
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on December 12, 2021, 07:21:33 PM


Lunkster
Liking the creativity Lunkster.

Idea...

Two identical units.

Completely magnetically isolated from each other.

Their rotating magnets, sharing a common axle upon which they rotate.

The magnet interactions (attraction and repulsion) would be 180 degrees out from
each other.  i.e. The one attracting when the other is repelling.


At near distances attraction forces would be greater than repelling forces.

At far distances repelling forces would be greater than attracting forces,
although both kinds of forces would be weaker than when at near distances.

Some where in a mid range of distances, attracting and repelling forces
would be approximately equal, although both kinds of forces would be weaker
than if at near distances.

But the energy expended to cause mechanical rotation against the magnet forces
would be counteracted / neutralized to a large degree.

If it resulted in O.U. it would be worth having sacrificed utilizing the maximum
available magnetic forces of the rotating magnets, which would have existed if
the rotating magnets were at  close distances to the fixed magnets (as you have illustrated).


Floor,

I am so thankful for your input.
I do have one request for you.
When you have time could you put a couple of sketches
or drawings of your ideas ether here or in a new post.
I see things better visually than in writing.
I look forward to seeing them.

Lunkster

Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on February 10, 2022, 12:49:18 AM
Hello,

I have this pdf that is an easy way for people to understand the
new technology used in the Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator.
This generator operates different than the MEG and other motionless
generators.

Please give me your opinions on the theory of operation.
Please let me know if it is worth building a prototype.
I want to know what other people think of the generator ( good or bad )

Lunkster
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on August 06, 2022, 05:30:33 PM
Hello All,

I have been working on one fin of the generator.
This is an update on the crude prototype work I have been doing.

I have built one fin assembly with an input of 18 VAC from a transformer connected to 120 VAC 60Hz.
The build has one output coil, built around a nut and bolt assembly, for each permanent magnet.
I custom built a switching coil that measures 6 ohms.

I placed 8 each 2 inch permanent magnets around a 8 inch Dia. circle into a plastic plate.
The 8 each output coils were mounted on another plastic plate so I could easily
adjust the distance between the output coils and the permanent magnets.

When I turned on the power to the switching coil, only 6 of the 8 coils had an
output signal.  The coils closest to the switching coil had the most output signal
As I measured the output from the other coils, the output magnitudes would
get smaller in magnitude until the two coils farthest away from the switching
coil did not have an output signal.

I tried to use a switching DC voltage through a solid state relay.  I found out that
the solid state relays I purchased only had a frequency response of 120 Hz.
I am purchasing a switching device that goes up to 20K Hz to replace the SSR.

I am going to try to build the attached assemblies for my next build.
Since I work with parts taken off of surplus store assemblies, it will not look the same
as the drawing when I build my custom assemblies

Has anyone else tried to build a device using a chain reaction of
permanent magnets as their flux routes are changed from one large
circle of travel in one mode and into individual routing of travel
in the second mode?

I will update later in a few months after a do the modifications and more testing.

Lunkster
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on August 08, 2022, 07:40:26 PM
Hi,

The following drawings are idea's of how the
"Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator"
can evolve over time.

MEG and other generators have core material between
the different pathing routes of operation.
That is something that can be added to this generator as well.

The big goal is to have as much flux and power generation
to occur when switching between the two modes of operation.

Lunkster
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on September 01, 2022, 01:06:06 AM
Hello All,

I built a prototype of one fin of the
"Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator"
I had 8 PM on on layer with the switching coil on it.
I had 8 pickup coils on the other layer.

I had air gaps between the PMs and the output coils.
I was NOT getting getting the results I wanted.  Only 6
of the 8 output coils had output signals.
The sum of the output coils was less than the
power I was driving the input coils.

I believe the air gaps caused the low signal levels.

I am now building the circuit of the attached circuit
on one board.  I will try a few different signal types
for the switching coil.

At lease I am building crude prototype now to test
some of my ideas.  It is nice to be retired.

Lunkster

Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on September 18, 2022, 01:57:32 AM
Hello,

I have built a prototype that looks like the last sketch.
I would like some people to look at some of my test
results and give me some advise as to other tests I could
run on the prototype and or some changes I could make to
the design.

Lunkster
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on October 06, 2022, 05:48:57 AM
Hello,

Here is a few test results of the crude prototype
I put together from material I stripped down from
some toroid coils I bought from a surplus store
for $1.95 each around 20 years ago.

As you can see, the test equipment I am using
is also very crude.  Keep that in mind when you look at my data.

The PMs in the circuit make a difference in the performance
of the circuit.  I have a lot more testing to do.

It would be nice if someone else built one of these devices
and tested it with better core material and better test
equipment.

Lunkster
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: floodrod on October 07, 2022, 02:11:34 AM
hi.  I am watching your updates with interest, thanks for sharing.

Did you snap a pic of the scope input and output phases?  If so can you share?  I am curious to see how the phases react in this setup
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on October 07, 2022, 04:52:30 PM
Hello,

I will do some more testing and get a photo of the input and output signal.

When I did testing with a switching DC signal, I only used one power supply.
I believe that I need to have two power supplies in the circuit in order to
make sure the core material transitions polarity in the circuit.

In the attached drawing shows some of the testing circuits I have used
or plan to use in testing this device.

I have destroyed 4 FET driver boards and 2 SSR devices so far
in my testing.  Because of shorted coils and connection errors I have made,


I was looking on-line for a reasonable price circuit board that could
drive my input coil efficiently between the plus and minus supplies.
It would be a solid state single pole dual throw device.  I have
not been able to find one.  Does any one know what I could use?

As you can see from my attached drawing,  The switching circuit
is not the best design when the drive coil needs to operate from the
negative supply.  Again, I could use input on a better drive circuit.

Thank you

Lunkster

 
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: floodrod on October 07, 2022, 05:11:35 PM

I was looking on-line for a reasonable price circuit board that could
drive my input coil efficiently between the plus and minus supplies.
It would be a solid state single pole dual throw device.  I have
not been able to find one.  Does any one know what I could use?

Lunkster

I use an ardiuno with one of those 43 amp H bridges found on amazon to switch polarities.  If you go that route and are unfamiliar with the programming, I can send you code and hookup pin diagram.
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on October 08, 2022, 09:34:49 PM
Hello All,

I performed a brain experiment today on this generator
and I have a humbling result from doing it.

When you reduce the complexity of the MSMEG through
reducing the parallel and series components of it, then
I come up with the simple circuit in the sketch I have here.

Now this simple circuit has been already worked on
by other FE researches.

Since other people are already using the simple design,
I will not be spending much more time with it.

I have other designs that I have put at this site that I may
build now to see if there is any potential in those.

Sorry if I troubled anyone with the MSMEG design!!!

Lunkster

 
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on October 09, 2022, 03:40:44 PM
Hello All,

I wanted to add some things that I learned about
this generator in the drawing are attached here.

I see this device using the diode similar to the MEG
and other motionless generators.  The diodes affect
the flux flow similar to the additional coils in the MEG
device is I see it.  By having the two devices as in the
drawing, I believe you can mimic the MEG device.

I see the the diode causing a 50% duty cycle in one device
with a 100% flux flow in the output coil of the function of the device.
Having the second device using a 50% duty cycle of the
input power will cause the system to draw current through
the full 100% of time from the input power.

Without looking at all of the circuit losses for a minute.
The 100% from device one and the 100% from device two
should add up to 200% in theory.

Now after you subtract all of the losses in the system
It will be much less than 200%.  How much depends
on many factors.

When I was testing my prototype, I got the best results
when using a 12 ohm inductive load at 600 Hz on the drive
coil.  The optimal frequency will be different with each different
build depending on the parameters of the individual components.

So I am leaving this design not because I do not believe
it is an over unity device, but because other people have been
working with this design with a lot better equipment than I have.

Lunkester
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on October 10, 2022, 04:14:28 PM
Hello All,

The attached drawing shows a balanced optional
way to generate electrical energy on my generator
designs without the use of diodes. 
Though small, diodes do create a loss across themselves.
With FE devices, every reduction of losses are helpful.
I  show both a mechanical and electrical option.
I am not sure if I have seen these options before.

The electrical option will likely be more desirable
but the mechanical option could be used in devices
like the electric assist bicycle. 

These designs takes the design of my last post
and combines the two devices into one device
by having one drive component for the device
which eliminates the need for the diodes.
The direction of the PMs from the right side
and the left side of the device are different.

There is a lot of information from different
articles about motionless electrical generators
that explains how the permanent magnet in
the generator interacts with the coils in the
generator to produce a COP > 1.

Lunkster
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on October 12, 2022, 11:41:14 PM
Hello all,

I have updated a few of my generator designs
by switching the permanent magnet and coil
positions in the device.  The reason for this is
that it may increase the performance of the device.

Testing a sub-assembly first before building the
full prototype may be a good option for someone
to do who may want to build one of these devices.

Lunkster
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: truesearch on October 13, 2022, 06:51:03 PM
@Lunkster

I appreciate your efforts and what you've chosen to share here  :)  Thanks!

Just a quick question regarding your non-mechanic image from above (cropped image attached below): for the "drive-coil" did you think that the signal/wave-form should simply increase/decrease to cause a magnetic on/off situation (A in my attached image below)? or should the magnetic coil-domain rather need to "flip" back and forth North/South (B in my attached image) ?
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on October 14, 2022, 12:24:16 AM
Hello,

First of all the two individual output coils of the rev. 2 prototype
generator have been distorted signals.  With a leading step before
the peek with the PMs in one direction and a lagging step in the signal
in the lagging signal.

So the idea is if I combine the two output signal together either
in series or parallel then hopefully the signal would look more like the A and B
signal you are showing.

Now the A signal you show would be the result of a DC pulse signal with
a 50% duty cycle.
The B signal would be the output of an AC driven signal.  Now I believe the
efficiency will be more productive than the current line voltages, 50Hz or 60 Hz.

This is just what I think will happen.

I have enough material to build one of these devices and I would like to do that.
I have already been asked to provide screen shots of my testing.
So maybe I will do that with this design either this fall or next spring.

I was going to move on to something else, but I would like to know
if these motionless generator designs benefit from permanent magnets
placed into the designs.  So my PMs need to be easily placed into and
out of the prototype I am building. 

Just one more note:  I believe that if these designs are to work with switching
DC signals, then I need to ground one side of the drive coil and drive the
other side of the coil between  a positive and negative DC voltage.  This
insures the polarity in the core changes direction.  Also make sure the core
does not get saturated with the voltages you use in the design.


When I did testing with a switching positive only signal, then at line voltage
frequencies, 60Hz, I got the best results at lower duty cycles.  With duty cycles
of 50% for efficient results, I had to raise yhe frequency to 600 hz. or higher.

Lunkster
 
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: truesearch on October 14, 2022, 02:12:37 AM
@Lunkster,

I'm looking forward to your test results ~ whenever that is.

As a side-note, your development and experiments remind me alot of Flynn's work:
http://www.rexresearch.com/flynn/flynn.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/flynn/flynn.htm)

Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on October 21, 2022, 05:21:57 PM
Hello,

I am in the process of building the prototype in this post.
The permanent magnets can easily be slid into or out of
place so you can chance the pole positions in the prototype.

1.)  This prototype will allow more balance of the drive current
in the prototype.
2.)  It makes the comparison of having permanent magnets
into and out of the circuit easier.
3.)  It is easy to change permanent magnet poles in the circuit.
4.)  It speeds up the time to get test data.
5.)  This prototype should remove the need for diode in the drive circuit.
6.)  This design could reduce the complexity of the system level design
of the circuit.

Things to consider when building a prototype:
1.)  If the drive and output coils are the same in wire diameter
and number of turns and wire length, then it is easier to
evaluate the performance of the design.
2.)  Testing with different loaded outputs will tell the most
about the performance of the configuration.
3.)  The closer you can match the strength of the permanent
magnets and the strength of the drive coil in the circuit, the
better the results should be in theory.
4.)  The core material and size  need to handle the flux
moving through each path without saturating the core.
5.)  Make sure to have proper protection of the coil wires from
shorting out to the cores.
6.)  The more you can build the sub assemblies as individual
modules, the easier they can be used in other prototype builds.
7.)  protect the core from Eddie currents by laminations or other
techniques in the build of the prototype.

Lunkster
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on October 27, 2022, 05:30:27 PM
Hello,

The attached file has testing data for the latest
prototype at 60Hz, AC

There is nothing usable at this low of a frequency
for this design.

I found and ordered a 5 connection SSR that has
3 output connections, one is common, one is
normally open and the other is normally closed.

I will try this SSR device to alternate between a
positive and negative DC supply.  I will adjust the
switching frequency to the drive coil and see
what the test results look like.

Lunkster
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: truesearch on October 27, 2022, 10:05:36 PM
@Lunkster,


That sounds interesting!

And just curious, what SSR did you settle on? What frequency is it good up to?


truesearch
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on October 28, 2022, 03:27:46 PM
Hello,

I attached the limited information I could on the SSR
I am purchasing.  I could not find the frequency response
of it.  The P/N is BERM-KB25DA.

I was given a the option purchasing a couple of boards
and software to test the prototype that I may look into
it this does not work.  I was hoping I could stay away from
software options.

Lunkster

Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on November 03, 2022, 05:08:43 PM
Hello,

If you have built a prototype like the last sketch I have
Then I have an interesting test you can try.

I currently do not have a way to do the switching
at the resonant point of my prototype.

It is a long shot, but if it did work then it would be
a great way of harvesting electrical energy through
rerouting the flux flow from permanet magnets.

Question:  Does flux flow?

It seems like it when looking at the operation of a transformer.
It does not seem to, when there needs to be physical
movement between a magnet and a copper coil in order to produce
electrical energy.

Lunkster
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on November 21, 2022, 11:14:29 PM
Hello,

This message is only for the hobbyist.
If you are an engineer or scientist, you already know this stuff.

The signals I show and are talking about show up at the output coil
of my device.

As I have been testing with the prototype, I have learned some things
about switching DC signals that a hobbyist like me did not have
a good understanding of before.

When working with lower switching frequencies, I would have larger
current draws using a 50% duty cycle.  So I would have to lower
the duty cycle in order to lower the current draw of the circuit.
The lower the frequency the shorter the duty cycle needed to be on
my circuit.

The DC pulse I was sending to the circuit acting like a sign wave at the
start of the wave acting like an AC wave.  Then the signal flattens out at
the top of the wave.  It is the flattening part of the signal where the
larger current draw is occurring.  As I raise the switch speed, the flat
area goes away and the signal looks a lot more like an AC sign wave.

I wanted to operate my circuit at a 50% duty cycle.  In order to do this
I had to raise the switching frequency. 

When I switched the DC too fast then the amplitude of the signal decreases
more and more as the frequency goes up in value.  Eventually it flatlines.

So there is one optimal frequency for each circuit configuration.
This may not be the desired frequency that the circuit needs to be operating at.

So this is where I was thinking that you could send a packet of the desired frequency
for the duration of the needed on time of the device.  This should provide an
efficient signal package to the device. 

Now I am assuming a one polarity DC pulse is used in the system.
So the magnitude of the magnetic force changes during the packet
but not the polarity of the magnetic pulse created by the electrical
packet sent to the device.
 
Maybe there is a circuit that already does this in the market.

Lunkster
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on December 06, 2022, 02:35:45 PM
DC Switching Efficiencies:

These are some observations from working with my latest prototype using a 20 volt DC switching signal to my prototype.  Some of it is thoughts and throries as well.

The DC drive signal is a square wave.  I Talk about the functional wave that is created on the output coil in my device.  The goal is less power in and more power out. Everything I present may only be in theory, so further research is needed.

Problem with DC switching signal:  DC across a coil has a large current going through it because there is little to no back EMF when the DC signal is leveled off on top of the signal.  The current flow is determined by the resistance of the coil at this place of the DC switching signal.  An AC current produces a signal in the coil that reduces the current flow of the coil because of back EMF.  This back EMF is a major player for the value of the induction of a coil.  Producing a variable AC signal for motors that vary their speed is an expensive option to perform this.  Also the frequency of the AC signal is not the optimal frequency of all electromechanical devices operating at a  variety of  load conditions.  The fact is that the majority of DC motors live with the inefficiencies of the DC switching signal.

Problems with the length of the DC signal:  Each coil design has a different induction that requires a different length of a DC signal for the optimum efficiency in the circuit.  Different coil induction at a specific DC voltage across the coil requires a different amount of time for the coil to stabilize at the optimal condition of the circuit.  The problem is once the coil is stabilized with the DC signal, it then loses it’s back EMF and the resistance of the wire is now the only thing limiting the current to flow.  This is very inefficient.  So, you want to cut the DC power before the coil reaches that length of time the coil starts to flatten out at the top of the DC signal.  This flattening out of the signal is like the coil  losing its inductance. 
Each coil design has a unique optimal switching signal speed:  This switching speed or frequency produces the maximum power performance with the best efficiency for the coil design.  The coil induction is the best parameter to determine this value.  If the switching DC signal is operated longer than this optimal frequency, then the circuit pumps too much current in it.  If the DC switching signal is too short, then the magnitude of the magnetic force is shortened.  This reduces the power and efficiency of the circuit.  The load on the output coil or device may also change the optimal frequency of the device.

Core Effect in coils:  As the coil is powered up, the core material develops a north and south pole in it that is stronger than a coil with an air gap.  This produces a stronger magnetic force or field in the coil.  Then when the DC signal is stopped.  The core material still has this magnet force in the core material.  The magnetic field soon reduces in strength at a rate similar to the rate the DC signal produced this field in  the first place.  This affect needs to be calculated into the switching speed of the device to the coil in order to compensate for this force in the circuit.  The core material and construction have a large effect on the parameters of the coil or other magnetic device.  Recently some companies have claimed that the core material they are using in their generator designs have brought their systems to producing more electrical energy than the electrical energy to operate them.  Most OU people have their eye on them for what they are doing.  In the meantime, why not continue to design and build a better OU device.
Using the core discharging magnetic field:  Some people have decided to capture the energy that comes from the core material as the magnetic field is discharging.  There are many ways this can and have been done.  Some designs dump the power into a battery.  Some people dump the energy into a capacitor.  Some people use it to energize another parts of the circuit.  I have a theoretical circuit that captures it and reuses it again in the drive circuit in the next power cycle.  This step, is very important in many magnetic circuit designs.  Energy cannot be created or lost.  So instead of losing potential energy by dumping that energy to ground, then recover that energy so that it can be reused again.  So recovered energy added to the efficient input energy circuit of the device minus the heat and other losses to the circuit of proper design should be able to reach levels of COP > 1.  Even if the circuit does not reach a COP > 1, we need more efficient circuits to reduce our monthly electric bill.
Bunch the most efficient frequency signals into a packet:  The ideal function of the device is to send a packet of the optimal frequency to the device during the desired-on time of the device.  The packet will be a lot more efficient than a solid DC signal during the desired-on time, the packet will be at most about 67% of power for a solid DC signal.  If you want a stronger force in the device, you could raise the voltage of the DC signal by 33%.  This should provide power similar to the constant DC pulse.  Since the packets are created from one positive DC switching signal.   The magnetic force will be of the same polarity with changing magnitude.  An AC signal changes polarity of the magnetic force.  So the packet of optimal DC pulses sent to the drive coil should be better than any AC circuit for most devices that drive “coil with core” type of devices.
Use both the most efficient drive signal packets with energy recovery circuits in the design: 
My goal, along with many other people, is to end up with a COP > 1.  So, by combining the most efficient power delivery scheme to the circuit along with recovering the electrical energy from the collapsing magnetic field in the coil or other magnetic device will go a long way of providing a highly efficient circuit.  The hope is that with enough efficient design considerations, the COP could be > 1.
Coil choice in the design makes a big difference: 
Solenoid coils are used a lot in motor designs.  A toroid coil is much more efficient than a straight coil with the same core material in them.  The toroid coil focuses the magnetic field in a circle.  Less wire is needed around its core material than a straight coil with core material to produce the same induction.  In theory, the toroid configuration should produce more efficient devices if designed properly.  Transformers act like a toroid coil.  Some if not many motor designs confine a loop of flux within the motor design.  The output coils I have been testing have been in a core loop with the drive coil.  The drawing is observations from those tests.  I want to add a file with the a photo of several of these tests than have been done.
Stationary Generator circuits: 
Stationary generators do not need physical moving parts in them to operate them.  Moving parts have many more places in them that reduce the efficiency in the device.  Reducing inefficiencies is the goal of many people working on free energy devices.  Note, free energy does not mean getting something from nothing.  Many people have theories of where this free energy is really coming from.  So free energy is an open system where there is more than one input source of power to the device or system.
Things to be addressed in DC switching circuits:
Most core materials still have some magnetism in them after the power is switched off from a single DC power source. So, the best designs will cause the core material to be at a neutral of no magnetic field in the core material when the DC switching signal is turned off.  The core material is the most important factor in determining the best way to take care of this problem.
1.)   Some people place a small or week permanent magnet of the opposite polarity of the core material with the DC signal removed in order to mutualize the magnetic force in the circuit.
2.)   Add a second DC voltage into the circuit.  Let’s say you have a 20 volts DC switching signal on the top of the coil.  The bottom of the coil is grounded.  When the 20v DC power is turned off to the circuit, then a small negative voltage is applied to the top of the coil.  The value of the voltage would be small.  It would be enough of a value to make sure the core material is discharged in the coil.
Addressing DC frequency packets: 
There are endless ways to address how to create and implement the frequency packets to the drive coil of the device you are working with.
1.)    Having a computer or processer working with an I/O board allows for easy modification to the optimal frequency of the device under varying load conditions during the operation of the device.  Programming knowledge for the hardware you select is required or you will need to get training to do this.  But once you have the hardware and training, you can test different configurations a lot faster using this approach.
2.)   For devices that have constant load, having two 555 timer circuits could be used.  One 555 timer circuit can be used to produce the optimal frequency for the drive coil.  The second 555 time can be used to create the length of time the device needs to be activated.  Once this packet is created, it needs to be sent to a driver circuit that can handle both the frequency of the optimal frequency that is in the packet.  The driver circuit needs to be able to handle the current required for driving the coil or other device in the design.  There are several inexpensive boards on-line that can produce the frequencies needed in the circuit and even more circuits to drive the coil.  Many of these circuits are inexpensive.
3.)   Design and build an analog circuit to do this.
4.)   Design and build a digital circuit to do this.
Looking at current designs: There may be many current DC switching circuits that do not use all of the efficient techniques that could be used for DC switching signals.  Could it be that if all of the efficiency steps for DC switching signals are taken on current devices, that a COP > 1 could occur in one of those designs?

Just think how great it would be if people could purchase a current market device and just improve the DC switching circuit to get their over unity device!!!!!!!!

Even if it was not to the level of OU, wouldn’t more efficient devices help to lower the electric bill we pay each month.  Think of how much the LED light bulbs have lowered our electric bill.      

Lunkster

P.S.  I am working on the results permanent magnets added to my latest prototype.  I will upload the file when I add the photo's to the file and make some notes:

Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: pix on December 06, 2022, 07:16:09 PM
Just use a flyback setup.
Core with primary and secondary plus some air gap.

During magnetizing time diode prevents current flow in the secondary coil, no back EMF upon magnetizing time.
Once current flow in the primary is stopped, collapsing magnetic field induces current in secondary coil.
Secondary coils number  is n times primary coil.
Instead primary coil-permanent magnet could be used for magnetizing.
Then you will have a MEG in flyback mode.
 Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on December 16, 2022, 04:26:31 PM
Hello,

I have a drawing of the configuration of the testing.

I uploaded a file without photos' of the testing.

The file I have with the photos' for the testing is 72Mbits in size.
So I could not upload the oscilloscope images along with the layout
of the components of each test.

Lunkster.
 
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on May 01, 2023, 05:04:15 PM
Hello,

I may have over simplified the generator design in some of my entries when I said the generator can be simplified down to a transformer looking device.  When I did the so called brain experiment, I did not perform a complete evaluation of all the factors of the coil/permanent magnets that are in series in the circuit.  When using the core material in the circuit, it is best to have the material to be able to move the flux from the permanent magnet just under the saturation point of the material.  Air gaps are likely needed to be in place as well in strategic locations.

I first wanted this generator to be a motionless generator and it still might end up that way.
But having a rotating magnet in the middle of the core may be a better way to start using this technology.  The reason I say this is because if you have two magnetosphere generators on a shaft driven by a motor, you could offset the torque on each magnetosphere to compensate for the torque in the system.  As the torque between the rotor to stator assembly is in the attraction mode of magnetosphere one, the torque between the rotor to stator assembly in magnetosphere two would be in the repulsion mode.  Then when magnetosphere one rotates to the repulsion mode, magnetosphere two is in the attraction mode.  This should reduce the overall torque that the drive motor needs to rotate the two magnetospheres.  As the rotation occurs in the permanent magnets in the core of the magnetospheres, flux is rerouted in and out of the output coils of the generator.

In the drawing I have my latest and greatest motor design driving the two magnetospheres.
I have written a book named "The core to free energy" 'The core is the key to free energy'.
The book is written for the hobbyist like me to have an understanding of several new technologies but together they make a complete system that in theory should meet over unity status.

I believe that the more free energy design concepts from the power delivery system, capturing the and converting the collapsing flux into electrical energy, having an OU drive motor and generator design will bring about an over unity system that the hobbyist can build and implement at their own homes. 

Lunkster
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: kolbacict on May 02, 2023, 09:05:35 AM


I believe that the more free energy design concepts from the power delivery system, capturing the and converting the collapsing flux into electrical energy, having an OU drive motor and generator design will bring about an over unity system that the hobbyist can build and implement at their own homes. 

Lunkster
If a person does not have a home, homeland, friends, like-minded people, but made a perpetual motion machine, where should he install it?  :)
Title: Re: Motionless Switching Magnetosphere Electric Generator
Post by: Lunkster on May 02, 2023, 03:07:32 PM
If a person does not have a home, homeland, friends, like-minded people, but made a perpetual motion machine, where should he install it?  :)

This is a very good question and I am glad you asked this question.

In it's current state, the hobbyist should not build it and use it until they have the device approved by the proper authorities where they live.  I do not want someone to burn their house down.

The system that I have in theory does not have all that is required for the system to be at that level.  You need circuit breakers.  You need wire size and sizes for all to the components along with so much more.

My designs are at the theory stage and need engineering work done before bringing it to the proper authorities for approval.

So yes, it was wrong for me to say it can be used for home usage without adding all of the other work that needs to be added to the system to make it that way.

In theory,  The speed of rotation from the drive motor will cause the frequency in the output coils.  Most applications would be either 50Hz or 60 Hz.  An additional circuit may be required to bring the collective output from the two magnetospheres to the desired voltage level with varying load conditions.  The maximum safe current draw will need to be determined in order to  properly fuse the system.

So The new technologies used in the system for both the motor and the generator are not ready to be used for home usage yet.

Thank you for pointing that out to me.

Lunkster