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### Author Topic: Maybe some NEW info?  (Read 22212 times)

#### sm0ky2

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##### Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #45 on: November 30, 2021, 01:48:46 AM »
I soldered up 30 diodes and added them to the circuit

36 in total now

#### Floor

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##### Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #46 on: November 30, 2021, 03:09:23 AM »

#### sm0ky2

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##### Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2021, 12:15:07 AM »
Status:

When i (try to) make Nigel’s capacitor bridge
- i get 0.9V (instantly, as fast as i have tried to switch it)
and it will slowly charge up to 1.9V then taper off.

When i build a voltage multiplier, using capacitors and diodes:
after the 2nd cap i get a steady 2v @ 3ua
This is in parallel to the 42 lit leds

i cant measure less than 0.01 Ohms with any of my tools
So the resistance across a single diode is effectively less than the resistance of
a short piece of copper wire. (and the meter lights the led while trying to read the resistance)
i even tried with a resistor to see if adding a diode in series would change the value, but no.

So……. Using math, lets assume that the string of diodes is pretty close to the R of the wire
that feeds the capacitors.
3 ua is 1/2 of the total current (or close to it)
Which means the total circuit, 42 LED’s and 2 caps
is consuming something around 6ua

Now, if the voltage drop across 3 diodes is 1V
(a 3V dc in drops to 2V across 3 of these diodes in series)
Im getting 2V out, on both parallel circuits

Therefore, the slightly less resistance of the 3 series diodes is taking
the bulk of the power, and the capacitors are getting whats left after the
voltage drop. Ergo: 2V
the current is split between the two circuits (give or take)

And the (unknown) source is providing 3V potential

Measurable or not, this Must be the case.

If i go more than 2 caps on the multiplier, it starts dividing
So 2V is as far as i can push it so far.

How do i take what i have here and step it up into the hundreds of Volts
that nigel is showing us?

#### sm0ky2

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##### Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2021, 10:45:41 PM »
When i compare (my attempt at) the capacitor bridge
is pales in comparison to the photovoltaic conversion power
So i’m leaning towards a 0-Watt photon generator to produce pv power

My thoughts are on strips of perfboard, sized to the LED’s
and solder rails to each side for scalability
Attach as many of these modules as needed to fit a small solar cell
Rinse and repeat
Then they can be stacked

https://youtu.be/s2aMCR0K-Rc

#### Floor

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##### Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2021, 04:38:12 AM »
@SmOky2

I'm still checking out your posts / vids.  No advice / ideas at this time.
I'm just really busy at present, too busy / too many projects going to
try some of this out.  But I/we appreciate your explorations...

regards
floor

#### sm0ky2

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##### Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #50 on: December 05, 2021, 08:37:57 AM »
Thanks.
I understand, i too have too many things going on
and did when i first saw this thread.

But something about nigel reminded me of me,
So i watched his videos, and saw his examples
and try as i may, i cannot prove the guy wrong.

Those two things had me interested, and when i got it to work
Well…
im as shocked as anyone, the principal is so simple
Why has noone observed this before?
Even on accident

I don’t know the proper description, is it negative/reverse current?
Ionic flow?
a self-driving mode of LED’s?

An economic overpowering of some popular FM band thats being absorbed by everything?
Is it from the cell phone towers?
5g?

Or have we discovered a new source of energy?

Does it matter? If we can use it

After many many hours of experimentation and thought,
i am convinced that the single factor governing these circuits
is impedance

When the LEDs have matched impedance, they glow the brightest,
When a lower impedance circuit is introduced, it acts as a switch
a higher impedance acts as a parallel source

When the impedance of the voltage multiplier exceeds that of the primary circuit
it becomes a voltage divider

Using this knowledge i was able to engineer a voltage divider based on the
voltage multiplier circuit that we can use in any circuit

but keeping this impedance thing in mind…

If we had a coil with a matched impedance to the diode(s)
the coil would have the same current as is running through the diode

suppose we had one of these coils on each diode chain
and one of these were wound to compliment the other
resulting in 2x the magnetic field
and possibly a detectable perpetual electromagnet

#### sm0ky2

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##### Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2021, 08:40:54 AM »
if it turns out to be an hf pulsed dc (as it appears to be)
then such a set-up could be used directly as an a/c power source

#### r2fpl

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##### Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2021, 09:44:34 AM »

#### sm0ky2

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##### Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2021, 05:53:24 PM »
Another sensational device

Looks interesting, should probably have its own thread

#### onepower

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##### Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2021, 06:35:16 PM »
Another sensational device

The internals look similar to the Kapanadze/Ruslan devices.
These boys aren't fooling around with LED's and are talking kW of power...

I think 2022 is the year all this comes out and goes mainstream. Too many people are replicating the technology all over the world.

Regards
AC

#### kampen

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##### Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2021, 07:03:22 PM »

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#### sm0ky2

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##### Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2021, 09:55:52 PM »
Another sensational device

The internals look similar to the Kapanadze/Ruslan devices.
These boys aren't fooling around with LED's and are talking kW of power...

I think 2022 is the year all this comes out and goes mainstream. Too many people are replicating the technology all over the world.

Regards
AC

It looks simple,
asymmetrical transformers, paired through a 4-way flux converter
which appears to be 1:1 ratio on all 4 coils, arranged in an ‘X’ between the
two larger coils

#### sm0ky2

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##### Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #57 on: December 05, 2021, 09:59:05 PM »
From there it is stored in VERY large super capacitors

#### ramset

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##### Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #58 on: December 05, 2021, 11:27:38 PM »
Edit
Sorry for off topic
Will start new topic if appropriate
Respectfully
Chet

#### sm0ky2

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##### Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #59 on: December 06, 2021, 12:04:00 PM »
It’s difficult to narrow down a precise topic here,
Nigel’s technologies could be broken down into several threads
or even its’ own category, if everything checks out.

I would love to start working on some of his other things
but i’m kind of engrossed in this ‘Ion Harvesting’ thing.
There are some questions i would like to answer
and see really how far we can push this.

Taking a step back, what we have is:

A high-impedance return circuit (through the air / environment)
and a low impedance diode circuit, which ‘steals’ the ionic current
causing a potential across the diode, and generating photons.
(when LED is used, if only diode used only heat is created)

If we match the impedance of the first diode circuit with a second
but in the opposite direction
The ionic current returns through the secondary diode path
instead of following the high-impedance return path.
This causes a potential across the second diode, generating more photons.

Question 1: How many LEDs can be connected in series here?
(theory) The more series LEDs, the higher voltage/potential required to light them all.

Question 2: How many LEDs can be connected in parallel here?
(theory) The more parallel LEDs, the higher current required to light them all.

Is there an upper limit to either of these conditions?
Or can we draw infinite Ionic Current?

We know that after a dozen or so LEDs (tested up to 42)
the air around the ion source becomes ionized (anions?)
forming ozone and charging anything that touches it
upwards to 100-110kV
The opposite occurring at the anode
(the air charges + (Ions), and anything touching it goes -)

And yes this is intuitively backwards, until you understand that
the ionic current flows in the other direction.
This is where the separation between current theory and ion flow theory
come into play.

This circuit only makes sense when analyzing it using ionic flow theory.
Which allows analysis (superposition) across multiple (sometimes reversed) current loops.
Here we see that the same current is flowing in both directions through our circuit.
Also that opposite potentials are forming at both ends.

Result: +0.003A + -0.003A = 0A
+2V. + -2V = 0V
This is why we cant meter it

With only 1 diode, we still have an opposite potential
through the high-z return path
Again : no measurable voltage
However - there is 3ua current (@0v) through the primary circuit.
now you ask yourself how can we have current with no voltage?
You dont. You have 2v AND -2v, flowing in both directions at the same time.
3 microamps in one direction and something like picoamps in the other.

Why is current flowing in both directions?

Ion Theory tells us that as we draw eV from the source (a - metal):
the source becomes (+) deficit from its’ natural state, and has a tendency to
take on charge from the environment.

Conversely, as we send eV to the sink (a + metal):
the sink becomes (-) deficit from its’ natural state, and has a tendency to
take on charge from the environment.

Of course the atmosphere is full of both + and - ions and can freely supply this deficit.
However, when there is a lower impedance path, the two metals themselves can
rebalance each other. (minus whatever became photons and heat crossing the diodes)
The energy consumed to generate photons and heat, is then replenished from the air.

Conclusion 1:
There appears to be dual-current in both directions through the circuit and an
additional third (high-z) ionic current formed through the air between sink and source.

Conclusion 2:
Voltage and Current in all 4 directions are equal and opposite,
resulting in 0 (net) power.

Conclusion 3:
Converting the ionic current into heat and photons allows us
to extract energy from a self-replenishing stage in the process.
Resulting in a Zero Point Energy Source