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Author Topic: Maybe some NEW info?  (Read 11374 times)

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #60 on: December 06, 2021, 01:07:29 PM »
Video describing an independently testable scientific theory
to support our observations


https://youtu.be/bU6xbLjR-kM

Offline MasterPlaster

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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #61 on: December 08, 2021, 12:19:55 AM »

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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #62 on: December 08, 2021, 12:39:08 PM »
Until he is a little more forthcoming, i have to shelf this.
If it werent for the photons produced, i would say
the power levels are negligible from an electronics engineering standpoint.
6microwatts
(+4 Watts worth of photons that can be pv collected)
I could make 1000 of these little solar cell sandwiches
have 1000 + wires running all over the place
and run everything to a single earth wire.
Just doesnt seem practical in its’ current state


Without the missing link, i cant bring this to a higher level.
Maybe with hours of watching his old videos and tinkering,
Maybe try different types of capacitors…?


If anyone has any breakthroughs plz share.


I’m planning a design for his HJ magnetic gate.


Offline conradelektro

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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #63 on: December 08, 2021, 05:07:04 PM »
I get the impression from sm0ky2's experiments in this thread, that the diodes (LEDs) are rectifying the transmissions from the many cell phone towers. Specially in and near cities there are hundreds of cell phone towers emitting electromagnetic waves by the kilowatt.

Greetings, Conrad
 

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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #64 on: December 09, 2021, 01:17:31 AM »
I get the impression from sm0ky2's experiments in this thread, that the diodes (LEDs) are rectifying the transmissions from the many cell phone towers. Specially in and near cities there are hundreds of cell phone towers emitting electromagnetic waves by the kilowatt.

Greetings, Conrad


Its’ more likely to be a powerful radio station.
Judging by the low frequency dc pulses through the diodes
and the fact that these diodes would probably have a hard time
rectifying Ghz

The most likely candidate is a 110Hz SLF military band



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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #65 on: December 09, 2021, 07:31:25 AM »
Most likely...    it's radio frequency / electric smog.

But then we already knew this ....

Does it work in a Faraday cage ?

Probably not, but even if it doesn't, this would not prove that the energy source is
conventional electric smog.  Only that the source (what ever it is) is blocked by a
Faraday cage.

If I was going to isolate the circuit within a Faraday cage.

I would first, test to see that the cage is effective against all kinds conventional radio
reception. I would put a radio receiver in the cage and make sure it blocks effectively.

example ...  My cell phone still receives a call while inside my microwave oven (not when running). 
That receptacle  / circuit is not properly grounded.
... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Next

I would find a     canyon   location in which all radio, TV, cell phone and satellite
reception is blocked and test the device there.

Odds are, that either one,    a working Faraday cage   or     a suitable canyon   will cause the
device to no longer function.

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #66 on: December 09, 2021, 12:31:30 PM »
Most likely...    it's radio frequency / electric smog.

But then we already knew this ....

Does it work in a Faraday cage ?

Probably not, but even if it doesn't, this would not prove that the energy source is
conventional electric smog.  Only that the source (what ever it is) is blocked by a
Faraday cage.

If I was going to isolate the circuit within a Faraday cage.

I would first, test to see that the cage is effective against all kinds conventional radio
reception. I would put a radio receiver in the cage and make sure it blocks effectively.

example ...  My cell phone still receives a call while inside my microwave oven (not when running). 
That receptacle  / circuit is not properly grounded.
... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Next

I would find a     canyon   location in which all radio, TV, cell phone and satellite
reception is blocked and test the device there.

Odds are, that either one,    a working Faraday cage   or     a suitable canyon   will cause the
device to no longer function.




Yes it works inside multiple Faraday cages (made of different metals),
as well as inside nested cages, or even using the cage itself as an ion source.


I have eliminated most high frequency signals as a source,
However it is possible for SLF and UHF to pass right through such a cage,
or be absorbed by large pieces of metal.


The visible pulses (dimming and brightening of the LEDs) are around 55Hz,
determined by an optical diode sensor circuit
If this were a half-wave rectification, it would point to the 110SLF used by (airforce i believe)


I also took it to a local ‘no-zone’ last night, where there is no cellular reception


It could be some sort of extraterrestrial (stellar) source, as hinted to by the inventor.


In either case, it seems to work anywhere, and cannot be blocked by conventional means.


It is also important to note here that a normal rectified radio signal induces voltage and current
through the circuit.
This circuit appears to run with 0 power, at least from the perspective of our meters.
In fact, electronics engineering fails when examining this circuit.
Its’ a trick to tease it out into capacitors so we have it in our normal form to analyze it.




I know everyone wants to find some common explanation so they can say ‘look! It was nothing!’
This was my first instinct as well, however this is much different than things i have encountered
in the past.
I believe there is some valuable knowledge to be gained from this, perhaps about ionic current,
Perhaps about diodes, some deep level science we don’t have the equipment for….


The power i am able to obtain is insignificant at the current state
The inventor has demonstrated much more than i have been able to.


I’m at a standstill with this tech, work as it may, if i can’t bring it to useful levels,
it is of no use to me.






Online Floor

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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #67 on: December 09, 2021, 04:08:04 PM »
Thanks SmOky2

Not being cynical, just healthy skepticism on my part.

Also,  up until your last post, I don't see any where in the topic,
where you have clearly stated most of the below.



Yes it works inside multiple Faraday cages (made of different metals),
as well as inside nested cages, or even using the cage itself as an ion source.

I have eliminated most high frequency signals as a source,
However it is possible for SLF and UHF to pass right through such a cage,
or be absorbed by large pieces of metal.

The visible pulses (dimming and brightening of the LEDs) are around 55Hz,
determined by an optical diode sensor circuit
If this were a half-wave rectification, it would point to the 110SLF used by (airforce i believe)

I also took it to a local ‘no-zone’ last night, where there is no cellular reception

It could be some sort of extraterrestrial (stellar) source, as hinted to by the inventor.

In either case, it seems to work anywhere, and cannot be blocked by conventional means.

It is also important to note here that a normal rectified radio signal induces voltage and current
through the circuit.
This circuit appears to run with 0 power, at least from the perspective of our meters.
In fact, electronics engineering fails when examining this circuit.
Its’ a trick to tease it out into capacitors so we have it in our normal form to analyze it.

I know everyone wants to find some common explanation so they can say ‘look! It was nothing!’
This was my first instinct as well, however this is much different than things i have encountered
in the past.

I believe there is some valuable knowledge to be gained from this, perhaps about ionic current,
Perhaps about diodes, some deep level science we don’t have the equipment for….

The power i am able to obtain is insignificant at the current state
The inventor has demonstrated much more than i have been able to.

I’m at a standstill with this tech, work as it may, if i can’t bring it to useful levels,
it is of no use to me.


           Thanks again
              best wishes

Offline ramset

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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #68 on: December 10, 2021, 04:16:29 PM »
FE researchers and experimenters
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4120.msg96619;topicseen#msg96619

Post #73
I did not ask his permission yet to post this here ( I feel it needs its own topic)
However I wanted to share it ..broli is wonderful open source researcher


Respectfully
Chet K
Edit
I also see he has topic here too
https://overunity.com/18852/a-solid-state-homopolar-motor/msg557375/#new
I should have checked first…a bit off here… COVID is doing a number on me .






Offline Johan_1955

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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #69 on: December 10, 2021, 05:21:30 PM »
FE researchers and experimenters
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4120.msg96619;topicseen#msg96619

Post #73
I did not ask his permission yet to post this here ( I feel it needs its own topic)
However I wanted to share it ..broli is wonderful open source researcher

Respectfully
Chet K
Edit
I also see he has topic here too
https://overunity.com/18852/a-solid-state-homopolar-motor/msg557375/#new
I should have checked first…a bit off here… COVID is doing a number on me .

Chet, Why this here, think its not CV / Influenza but Your Vaccine?

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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #70 on: December 12, 2021, 12:08:46 AM »
Thanks SmOky2

Not being cynical, just healthy skepticism on my part.

Also,  up until your last post, I don't see any where in the topic,
where you have clearly stated most of the below.

 

           Thanks again
              best wishes


I appreciate skepticism, and alternative explanations.
That keeps everyone aware of things that are often overlooked.


Its’ been over a month now that i have been studying this thing.
I feel it differs from a standard antenna rectification circuit in some key ways.


First: i have a dipole intended for just this purpose
Harvesting energy, i find mine works best on the 110-130 FM band in most areas
And in any use of this, i am able to measure both the voltage and the current being rectified
This is standard radio tech. Every radio creates some power draw on the ambient signal
Using rectification circuits placed throughout the viewing area - radio stations are able to
use the reception power to gauge the number of listeners.
They use this number to price advertising sales.


The fact that the power in the Nigel circuit is immeasurable, is a point of interest.


Two: the strongest of radio stations cannot transmit to me the kind of power necessary
to create the amount of photons being generated.


My reason for not stacking this to extreme power is not because the power isnt there.
It clearly is


But because of physical / logistical issues which could theoretically be resolved by a choice
of materials.


 




Online Floor

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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #71 on: December 14, 2021, 03:07:24 AM »
Positives.

Out the door, if it works day and night, it is between 3 and 4 times better
than if it were a conventional solar electric device in these respects...

Solar requires direct sun.
Solar requires energy storage.
Solar is limited to specific geographic regions.

Also, like solar it would reduce transmission line losses.

Also If it  "is anomalous / working" at all... it    can   be improved.

I suggest this...
  Give it time...

  regards
           floor

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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #72 on: December 14, 2021, 09:37:13 PM »
Neutrino-Voltaic Power Generator   
Maybe some Hope with this info...
As far as I know is at the Overunity forum this device/principle not mentioned.Yes, news from the Schneiders but is it a real possibility they talk about?You can find more in the German Net-Journal of November december 2021.
I send you a link to the first article/pdf below HEFT 11/12.
I just translate for this reply some info: http://www.borderlands.de/inet.dbnj.php3

Its seems that they can make a foil that reacts on neutrino blasts and produce 24/7/365 electricity.

"In response to a question from Dr. Frank Lichtenberg after the performance, Holger answers that 3 W can be generated on the area of an A4 sheet. 1 m2 generates around 50 W".

Inspiration
Actually, the free energy movement was only legitimized by the award of the 2015 Nobel Prize for Physics. It was then that Arthur McDonald and Takaaki Kajita received the Nobel Prize for their discovery that neutrinos have mass. That played into his hands so that he no longer sees the implementation of neutrino energy as work, but as a mission.

History   
He also has a personal history in the field of neutrino energy, because decades ago his father, a nuclear physicist, saw a demo of a film in the form of a glowing LED in the Gotthard massif, which could only have been neutrinos because the energy passed through the thickest walls. Afterwards he saw many slides showing the same thing. He registered the term “Neutrino” as a trademark and in 2014 the company Neutrino Germany GmbH founded.

Output
The planned neutrino-voltaic power generator will be 850 mm wide, 1200 mm high and 650 mm deep. The continuous output is 5 kW with a maximum output of 7.2 kW. The neutrino voltaic modules use aluminum and silicon with doping, whereby as far as possible no rare earths should be used that are not obtained in an environmentally friendly way.

Pricetag
The power generator will cost 15,000 euros (20,000 francs). Holger T. Schubart objects that they do not produce the electricity generators themselves, but look for partners for them. There will be one experimental facility each in Brandenburg and Switzerland.

Efficiency
The solar expert and economist Dr. Ruedi Meier is very enthusiastic about the efficiency of the neutrino-voltaic power generator. That is a highly efficient system! He has calculated that with a constant power output of 5 kW per year, a total of 43,800 kW / h of energy is available. Since a normal household needs around 4,500 kW / h per year, that is almost ten times as much. At a price of 15,000 euros, the device pays for itself very quickly.

PV
If an area of 100 m2 is required to generate 10 kWp of energy via PV, it is just 1 m2 for Neutrino-Voltaik NV.  10 kWp for the PV system means that a maximum of 10 kW can be achieved for a short time under laboratory conditions. In reality, however, these conditions are not given, 2-3 kW are more realistic. In the dark, the power is always 0 kW. The price per kWp is EUR 1,000, and EUR 2,500 per kW.

NV
10 kW with neutrino voltaic is always 10 kW. The footprint can be kept so small because the modules can be stacked on top of one another. The result is a cube of 1 m3. At 10 kW, two such cubes are placed one on top of the other. The price per kWp does not apply due to continuous output. The price per kW is 1,000 euros. The experimental facility is to be built by mid-2022 and prototype 1 and prototype 2 by the end of 2023. Approvals will be obtained from 2022, and from 2023 series production and parallel marketing should start.

What do you think about this info?
https://neutrinovoltaic.com/en/ In the above mentioned pdf more about this device/principle.

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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #73 on: December 15, 2021, 11:41:13 AM »
Video describing an independently testable scientific theory
to support our observations

https://youtu.be/bU6xbLjR-kM


Sm0ky2 - This invention posted on my site seems to borrow from your concept-focus...


https://groupkos.com/dev/index.php?title=A_Novel_Design_of_Static_Electrostatic_Generator_for_High_Voltage_Low_Power_Applications_Based_on_Electric_Field_Manipulation_by_Area_Geometric_Difference


Follow the ResearchGate link at the link above to see various test scenarios performed.








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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #74 on: December 15, 2021, 07:32:03 PM »
@sm0ky2

Hello sm0ky2, I tried the attached circuit, but none of the LEDs schowed any light.

Do you have an idea what I did wrong?

The experiment was done in Vienna (Austria, Europe).

Greetings, Conrad