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Offline onepower

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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2021, 11:07:43 AM »
Smoky2
Poor results are part of the learning curve...

It's important to understand most of the FE inventors we read about had decades of knowledge and hands on experience under there belt. 20 or 30 years of experimenting was not uncommon in the past. These people were experts, there work was meticulous and they recorded every detail or effect. The most important skills are observations and reasoning...what is happening, why is it happening, to what end?.

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« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2021, 10:21:11 PM »
Hello there,
Can anyone point me to some more info on this guy's tech pls?


YouTube has videos from him going back 2-3yrs across multiple channels
From what I understand he allegedly teamed up with gaia(sp?) energy group


Several people have done follow up videos to his as well, slowing things down, zooming in etc


Ive just been surfing YT, and there are links in the videos comments to other videos and so on


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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2021, 10:37:41 PM »
Smoky2
Poor results are part of the learning curve...

It's important to understand most of the FE inventors we read about had decades of knowledge and hands on experience under there belt. 20 or 30 years of experimenting was not uncommon in the past. These people were experts, there work was meticulous and they recorded every detail or effect. The most important skills are observations and reasoning...what is happening, why is it happening, to what end?.

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AC


I think thats what was getting me into trouble.
I kept wanting to use my indoctrinated knowledge and turn the diodes around.
Actually was difficult to set them all up the way Nigel had them.
And I probably still screwed that up.


Also theres the whole dislexic person learning from another dislexic person
either of us could say something backwards and neither of us would notice it ever happened.


Im not going to invest too much time into the diode thing as i dont actually
own 1000’s of diodes to take that anywhere.
Was really just trying to verify what this guy is saying.


I made an ion-receiver for the aerial antenna, similar to the large one he has, but a bit smaller
and of my own design.


Also am constructing two of his temporal accelerators
not sure if it is possible to verify super-luminosity at my current lab.
The equipment i had during the Leedskalnin experiments is no long available to me.
Besides were talking about 2 millionths of a second.
But i should at least be able to examine the electrical effects, if any, produced by the device.


His magnetic theories are quite interesting, so i will save those for last.
It seems to be an adaptation of HJ, in the form of a possible improvement




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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2021, 10:37:41 PM »
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Offline onepower

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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2021, 11:46:52 PM »
Smoky2
Quote
I think thats what was getting me into trouble.
I kept wanting to use my indoctrinated knowledge and turn the diodes around.
Actually was difficult to set them all up the way Nigel had them.
And I probably still screwed that up.

You nailed it...
As Engineers it's even harder to open our mind to different ways of doing things. This little voice keeps saying that's not the way it's supposed to be done, follow everyone else, it's easier.

I had many devices working on my bench, I designed and built them and yet I still had a very hard time believing what was right in front of me. There is something in our mind, some psychology which wants to deny any drastic changes to our perception of things. We like normalcy and safety which may be a survival skill from past generations.

For my atmospheric experiments I preferred low resistance, low forward voltage signal diodes. I then progressed to zero threshold devices which have almost no threshold voltage or cut in. They conduct forward down to voltages as low as 0.002 volts while maintaining the specified reverse breakdown.

Think of it this way, we can bias a diode with a voltage very near the cut in so long as the bias source remains outside main circuit. The bias only applies to the diode action and the closer the bias to the cut in voltage the lower the actual diode cut in. So we can make a diode which conducts at almost any voltage.

Much of free energy is about understanding any components well enough to make them do what we want. It wants to act a certain way but we want it to do something different. It may look like a regular component but doing the exact opposite of what we think it's doing which tends to confuse many people. Like the supposed coil which is designed to have no inductance and act like a capacitor. Which begs the question why...to what end?.

It's never boring... I will give it that, lol.

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AC

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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2021, 12:15:26 PM »

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Offline sm0ky2

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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2021, 12:26:04 PM »
I dont think it is so much of a mental block.
I am always trying new things or trying things new ways
in search of a better way of doing things.


For me its more force of habit. Imagine getting into your car
one day and sitting backwards in your seat. Driving in reverse
all the way to work.


You know that left is right right is left
You can make the turns, navigate the city
Then one turn, seems so easy so natural
you turn left to go left (forgetting that your backwards)
and the car goes to the right.


My mind tells me the diode sends electricity this way,
NOT the other.
It’s difficult to envision an electron Venturi Siphon
Where the (off) diode can create a void drawing electrons in


I beefed up my EB to see if that helped.
0.5v @ 0.5ma (1/4 mw)
added an impedance between the live and diode bridge
and another between the aerial and the other side of the bridge
a 3rd diode to the 2nd ground forming a loop.


Diodes are open (on), although no visible light is being produced
I left it running. Voltage is holding steady
It has ionized the air in my room overnight
I woke up to the heavy smell of Ozone.


I see no difference through the circuit with or without the aerial
Diodes are just dropping the voltage, nothing more that i can see


Outside the circuit is a high potential electric field
Strongest near the connection points. Seems to sit outside the wires
I guess facing outwards, as my hv probe collapses when i make contact
so the circuit itself is the - side of the electric field.
(the whole thing could be acting as a giant charged plate)


Im not sure what kind of power levels that represents, but its working better
than the (powered device) Ionizer i bought that i never use.
Think i should leave a window open when im playing with this.


There are a lot of unknowns here about Nigel’s situation,
as was mentioned there could be ground faults
in the electrical system to his building(s),
we don’t know if there is a high tension line overhead (which would raise air potential)
But more importantly- how is he tricking the ions to flow INSIDE the circuit???




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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2021, 01:09:25 AM »
Single ground power operating joule thief
3-diodes center tapped to 2nd ground


Free Energy - courtesy of Nigel ‘Hands’ Cheese


https://youtu.be/mdjlRGJaFdQ


There is 0 potential voltage between the 1st and 2nd ground wires
by themselves,


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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2021, 01:24:59 AM »
this JT has a battery that can recharge, so i turned the switch on
just to see what happens. (i doubt i am reaching the charging threshold)


Im reading 0.3v at the output terminals, 0v at the input


0 from coil to the transistor
0 across the base resistor
0 between the 2 ground wires (as expected - short)
0 when i disconnect
(i’ll post a follow up in a few hrs if the battery takes a charge)
Ionic trickery i tell you




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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2021, 01:52:28 AM »
Its the - side of the EB too


The + side is completely disconnected


Terminal was planted 200ft from any residential electrical circuit


It may be too early for me to say this but….
I think this could be done with a large chunk of metal or
dare i say a supercap and some resistors


Simply to act as an ion sink and sort of delay to loop them
back on themselves.


0 + 0 = 2x infinity

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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2021, 10:56:44 PM »
Got it working now with only 1 ground wire input last night.
The 2nd ground has been disconnected
led’s are still lit after 15+ hrs


Now i have added the other half of the EB circuit in series
Input reads 0.3v
Output 0.3v
LED’s got a touch brighter
Current between the EB and the + of the JT: 0.05ma


Current from ground to JT: 0 when EB disconnected (led’s still lit)
                                       0.05ma with EB connected (slight brightening)


I unsoldered/resoldered the (dead) battery just to eliminate that as a current source
i unsoldered/resoldered the JT coil to see if that had any current, still 0, and led’s lit
with or without the inductor/coil. (removing the ferrite does nothing as well)
So….


We have open + terminal in parallel with a resistor to base
We have an earth ground
We have 3 diodes across the c-e
and a piece of copper wire center-tapped to the 2nd diode junction (heading + to -) also open


3 LED’s producing light


We can add the other half of the EB into the +
and get more light (seems arbitrary and distracting)


What’s the next step


[edit:] apparently i can choose either ground terminals
of the earth battery. (- to - of the JT or + to +)
The + wire seems to produce a tad more light.
So im using that one now.


Still 0 current reading from ground to JT
(but it will light the LED’s through the meter)











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« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2021, 03:12:53 AM »
LED still lit,
I am still not able to determine any information on the circuit.
For all intensive purposes, its an open circuit from Earth to an alligator clip


I’m shelfing this one, labeled it “ 0-Watt Lightbulb”,
Gives my shelf an eerie green at night.


Not sure about the “ion accelerator”,
I cant tell that it does anything, from the EB or even a battery
Anyone that wants to give that a go, plz share your results


————————————————————




Now onto the magnets!!!


So, first up appears to be a modified HJ track
However, instead of a single magnet perpendicular
We have a track of sequential parallel magnets
And the rotor has 4 magnets across it’s length


     NNNNNNNNNNNNN
      ||||||||||||||||||||
     SSSSSSSSSSSSSS


   
            N=S
            S=N


But …… they’re at 45-degrees


        \\
         \\


Sooooooo….




I guess theres only one way to know

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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2021, 07:26:21 PM »
For Johan and all
http://www.rgenergy.com/


Shared by AllCanadian


Glad to see you around Johan !!


Respectfully
Chet K
Ps
Sorry to interrupt SmOkey
I looked for topic ( Johan had shared ideas on Papp and water fuel
However it must have been in unrelated sections




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« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2021, 07:32:21 PM »
While im constructing the magnetic set-up,


I saw this:


https://youtu.be/3yogEJOJWbQ


And went back to examine the 1-wire circuit.


It only works with something tied to the first diode (+ terminal)
By something i mean i have tried a 6-in alligator clip, a piece of wire,
my finger, a large chunk on various types of metals


Whatever this is (‘ion energy’, or atmospheric energy, or some weird reverse rectifying antenna)
It needs an electron source. I find copper connected to steel amplifies it the best
there may be better things to try.
I have a 1-meter set of 8 insulated copper wires
8-guage, and wires in parallel at both ends.
Manipulating the laws of parallel resistance, that 1-meter cable
has the Ohmic resistance of 1/8th of the manufactures rating for
a single 1-meter length of this wire.
This works to give more light than a single piece as well
something larger, like a metal kitchen rack brightens it even more


Electrical theory has no applications as there are no readings to take


I have eliminated various causes such as bi-metal by using a rod of twisted diode legs
(from same type diodes i had broken the legs off)
it works in complete darkness
it works inside a faraday cage
It works using a faraday cage as an electron/ion source
Cant seem to shield it at all


I’m ordering a large shipment of diodes, from china.
It will take a bit to get here, but is economical.


I’ll follow Nigel’s lead as best i can and see how far i can take this




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Re: Maybe some NEW info?
« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2021, 10:01:58 PM »
Is there a schematic (info) on this tech that you can share?


Thanks.

 

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