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Re: The MAD MAX e-car
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2021, 02:25:55 AM »
The only way I can see that the *9393 patent would work is if there is a special kind of battery charger which produces consecutive pulses having different frequencies.  It is known that when a car battery is momentarily pulsed, ion movement inside the battery continues, briefly, after the end of the pulse, due to ion momentum.  If a second, lower frequency pulse is added while the ions are still moving, this pulse, with a longer base line, will cause additional ions to sweep up the original ions, producing a densifying pulse, which can auto accelerate through a gradient such as a non linear magnetic field.  This will recharge the battery to a greater extent than would a continuously applied potential.

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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2021, 09:54:56 AM »
At first : this is actually an unimportant solution research/answer finding question !


The most important fact is that urban/city zone vehicles by given 30 Km/h speed maximum only needs ,included brake energy recuperation, well organized 250 Wh electric energy storage for driving the average 60 Km activity per day as also remarked by the "concept cars" design page by esoro/rinspeed !


 ( 15 000 Km per year european range average /365 = ?  per day )


Pulse, 2 = Hz


how is the EMP nuclear defined ?


how explains it ,EMP I and II ,Dr.Pavel Imris,CSc. in his "artificial nuclear atom strike"   
                   


Pulse-effect ?


Bernd Koehler ,solar cell/ fluorescent lamp tube as battery charge concept


DeBuyant.rotative DC  motor-generator battery charge concept


Harold Goldbaum electric generator with shoe-box dimension but Pulse quantity dependent work process KW or MW output


Have we to determinate the nuclear decay in concepts like NANO-BOXX in Pulse numbers ?






The energy storage is not anymore the problem in an "autonomous and intelligent -fixed speed max.- urban traffic drive " world !



Well organized e-trikes and e-bikes less than function priority related heavy cars !




World-wide shows us "freaks,developper,enthusiasts" over youtube and other video channels what with conventional equipment is possible,what with
the best known solution will become possible ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf31fQJVWOU    rated 750 W power  electric drive ,by 30 Km/h max. energy consume in average ?

                                                                             after specific drive improvement ?




Ex-SIEMENS Dr.Wolfgang Volkrodt publication :        rated 100 W bike to electric bike modification


                                                                           with modern 2021 equipment rated power/effective energy consume per 100 Km/per day ?






                    Does he not correct EE geral opinions in this paper ?

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=17&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19860717&CC=DE&NR=3501076A1&KC=A1

http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3501076&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en


Beginning with that difference :




According to theories customary up to now, 25 kW losses would have to occur in the aforementioned ferrite magnetic core. This contradicts practical experience.
[0004]

The energy requirement for a magnetizing reversal pulse is around 25 mWs when using a magnetizing coil with low resistance as a single-start secondary winding of a pulse magnetizing transformer. 10,000 pulses per second therefore require a power supply of 0.25 kW,


                                             


   i.e. one hundredth of the hysteresis losses that are allegedly caused by this.









How many scientists/researcher/inventors are citing these points in their disclosure :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/citingDocuments?CC=DE&NR=3501076A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19860717&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP



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Re: The MAD MAX e-car
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2021, 05:23:23 PM »
The only way I can see that the *9393 patent would work is if there is a special kind of battery charger which produces consecutive pulses having different frequencies.  It is known that when a car battery is momentarily pulsed, ion movement inside the battery continues, briefly, after the end of the pulse, due to ion momentum.  If a second, lower frequency pulse is added while the ions are still moving, this pulse, with a longer base line, will cause additional ions to sweep up the original ions, producing a densifying pulse, which can auto accelerate through a gradient such as a non linear magnetic field.  This will recharge the battery to a greater extent than would a continuously applied potential.


edit: Both the SSG and the JT work at low level output with a single frequency ion sweep.  So it may not be necessary to include a gradient.  (For non extreme applications.)

edit2: The TS works that way too, with still moving ions sweeping up just starting ions.  (You can also use a higher voltage rather than a lower frequency.)
« Last Edit: July 30, 2021, 07:23:33 PM by Jerry Volland »

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« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2021, 12:37:04 PM »
https://jornaldascaldas.com/inventor-caldense-aperfeicoa-carro-movido-a-energia-eolica 2010

weight ?


http://omni.mcn.org/ElectriLiteB/


the pedal generator : 600 W rated generator !?


normally a pedal generator  in the 200 W range : https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/how-to/a10245/pedal-power-how-to-build-a-bike-generator-16627209/


https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&q=How+much+electricity+can+I+generate+on+a+bike%3F&ved=2ahUKEwjPwqqk1pTyAhVXEWMBHehPAfMQzmd6BAgMEAU&biw=1366&bih=605


a typical human(m./f. ) pedals in average 75 W per hour with an electric generator


improveable to 180 W/h by modern and efficient generator


180 W per hour pedalling energy are sufficient for Sinclairs C5 with Li Yngs transmission system to reach ? Km*h speed ?




assumption :     300 W needs rated      30 W electric micro-motors power      ? 20 Km/h


                   2X 300 W needs rated 2X 30 W electric micro-motors power      ? 30 Km/h


                   3X 300 W needs rated 3X 30 W electric micro-motors power      ? 40 Km/h




120 W electric power input ( rated fan motor power ?)  :


https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=9318






90 W input with PAX Scientific impeller ?


45 W with impeller and magnet array electric motor ?


output ?


output by applying Tudor-Frunzi or Kango Iida or Kumar or Akio Hara generator ? the generator coils with David Yurth coating ?





old commuter power/weight/speed  ratio  ( Volt ! )


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurgel_Itaipu


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citicar


GarWoods superelectric car    2x 1,5 hp


rated 3 KW ~ peak 6-7 KW ,average energy consume from rated drive power ?


by now less battery weight (2021 standart)



2020 Building construction standarts      NEARLY ZERO ENERGY 20 Wp PE /sqm and NET ZERO ENERGY      here primary power per sqm


                                                      equalizing



2021 Car       construction standarts      NEARLY ZERO ENERGY  10 Wh/km  and NET ZERO ENERGY           here primary energy per Km



BIO-EUGENICS


                                               cat and mouse, old cat and fat mouse 

2000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvh-ieuM8yg  Erotics and the game (form,colors,provoke,attraction/repulsion)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpbHdIrtpNo  Lolita and Eros

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHqGIe8AZ1g  12  years ?


Bio-clock , cell regenration cycles (-Countdown)  to MENO-PAUSE "Wechseljahre" :       bioregenerative Pré-Mors Stadium

2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq8uO6swsIc    Anymore "Lolita" !




maskuline/male  Wechseljahre/menopause idem bioregenerative Pré-Mors Stadium


                                                                     Eros-Choreography
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV7G5aWy3vc  from the same producer mind : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh4tHpUflDA

                                                                             from


                         UE(ber Vierzig/er)40 = physical Bio-Cycle stand-point  : Pré-Mortale Gesellschaft/society




                        bei einigen Frauen (und Maennern) geht es schneller,die Degeneration :


https://www.n-tv.de/leute/Sylvie-Meis-spricht-ueber-fruehe-Menopause-article22681586.html#:~:text=Wechseljahre%20mit%2031%20Sylvie%20Meis%20spricht%20%C3%BCber%20fr%C3%BChe%20Menopause&text=Im%20Sommer%202009%20erkrankte%20Sylvie,von%2031%20Jahren%20an%20Brustkrebs.&text=Damals%20habe%20sie%20eine%20Hormontherapie,das%20die%20Wechseljahresbeschwerden%20einst%20ausl%C3%B6ste.

https://www.breastcancer.org/treatment/hormonal/serms/tamoxifen


hormone-receptor-positive


Describes cells that have a group of proteins that bind to a specific hormone.
For example, some breast cancer cells have receptors for the hormones estrogen or progesterone. These cells are hormone receptor positive and they need estrogen or progesterone to grow.




bio-cell-cycle and active/passive interference ,hormonal and other factors



                                                                      UE30 8) 


                                Die Bio-(Cell/Zelle-Prozess) Uhr wird langsamer ! Physisch-physiologisch !



 


For total "western" societies as example : https://www.bib.bund.de/DE/Fakten/Fakt/B19-Durchschnittsalter-Bevoelkerung-ab-1871.html


                                       chronical mid-/bioregenerative end-life crisis demography and politics


                                                      undiplomatic,but real view : Bio-Zombie/Untote politics






                                        But : UE100 - UE30 = up to 70 years body-sexus neutral living

                    https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Immer-mehr-Menschen-werden-100-Jahre-alt-article22720665.html

                                                               
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Re: The MAD MAX e-car
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2021, 10:22:04 PM »
I see that Dr.Imris,CSc.  is now "on-line"  ::)  http://pavelimris.com/


and that he had about him/his last invention a newspaper-article,August 2020 :


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.nordkurier.de/uckermark/tesla-chef-soll-mit-uckermaerker-89-die-welt-retten-1740373708.html

Btw.: HATE LIFE is the automatic translation from the village name "Hassleben" https://www.tourismus-uckermark.de/unterwegs/kultur/kulturangebote/anbieter/dorfkirche-hassleben.html

Hmm,


 " Elektrischer Generator "
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20200402&CC=DE&NR=102018007240A1&KC=A1


Event date :2021/04/01
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/inpadoc?CC=DE&NR=102018007240A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20200402&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP




Device for an electric drive for electric vehicles

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190328&CC=DE&NR=112017003611A5&KC=A5

Event date :2020/01/01

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/inpadoc?CC=DE&NR=112017003611A5&KC=A5&FT=D&ND=3&date=20190328&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP





 :o  https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.freudenberg.com/de/technologien/mobilitaet-transport/ein-starkes-stueck


Nevertheless, you are still working on increasing your reach. What can we expect there?

Prof. Winter: The range is physically limited.


As things stand today, researchers can predict ranges of a maximum of two kilometers per kilogram of battery, which would be a range of 600 km with a battery weight of 300 kg typically used today.
 We are currently at around 700 meters per kilogram. So there is still enormous potential for development that will be available within the next ten years.


10 Wh /Km to 1 Wh/Km electric consume is in development ,by 200 Wh/Kg " .... 300 Kg typically used today . .... "


= 60 000 Wh/300 Kg divided 10 Wh/Km or 1 Wh/Km     = 60 000 Km  - 6 000 Km range

                                                                                         200 Km  -      20 Km range per Kilogram battery

                                                                                 to


                                                                                      60 000 Km - 6 000 Km    range per Kilogram battery



I mean the Bond Bug https://www.motor24.pt/sites/jornal-dos-classicos/o-pequeno-bond-bug-completa-50-anos/828118/
will be a nice ic-engine to electric drive conversion for WR-range experiments

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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2021, 05:16:24 AM »
0-Watts @ 0-Hz bliss.

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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2021, 11:09:36 AM »
As per the usual Lanka, nice infos / searches here !

Thanks

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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2021, 02:57:21 PM »
member Johan_1995 e-drive platform #8 info https://www.thebetterindia.com/212501/bengaluru-startup-log9-electric-vehicle-battery-charging-aluminum-fuel-cell-india-nor41/


review : 






  https://www.log9materials.com/


For city-e-bikes/-trikes probably really usefull !  Performance ! https://www.log9materials.com/two-wheeler.html

                                                                                           https://www.log9materials.com/three-wheeler.html


                                                                                   magnet array motor + Saburo = theoretically 900 Km per charge range 8)

                                                                                   Ferreira cap-coil motor           = applied         900+ Km    per charge range ;)



https://overunity.com/18385/e-drive-platform/         #14  Lavenami improvement http://www.evalbum.com/314

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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2021, 12:07:57 PM »
Studying numbers,theory and practizise (by experiments) :


rotoverter : motor with coupled generator ,conventional rated motor power / efficiency rate - generator gain


car-rotoverter principle : electric drive and brake energy recuperation


theory :


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regenerative_brake


The expected gain amounts to
https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/97eed872d31560cad28872b489ba02e4d074d471

The higher the recuperation efficiency, the higher the recuperation.
The higher the efficiency between the electric motor and the wheels, the higher the recuperation.
The higher the braking proportion, the higher the recuperation.
On motorways, this figure would be 3%, and in cities it would amount to 14%.


Experimental brake energy recuperation number :

https://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/04/reva_introduces.html
3 KWh from 12 KWh = 30%

We can double the generator efficiency !
We can double the motor efficiency = consume halfing !

(12 KWh /2) - (3 KWh x 2 )= 6 KWh consume - 6 KWh recuperation = Net Zero Energy Drive


Also posssible :


(12 KWh/10 ) - conventional 3 KWh recuperation gain = 1,8 KWh surplus per hour


This is the energetical base for the future "autonomous city drive vehicle" which drives unmanned ,
by legal 30 Km/h speed max. inner-city ,urban zone !




For city-kurier driver,not car but roller :


https://www.log9materials.com/two-wheeler.html


70 Km range x 10 = 700 Km range per battery charge


by legal 30 Km per hour inner-city = 700 Km/30 Km =


 23,33 hours drive range


or 2000 Wh capacity/23,33 hours = net 100 W on-board generator for recharging


= endless/non-stop drive potential






Because only 100 W generator for battery recharging in need  https://geospatial.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83476d35153ef022ad3c0d118200b-popup would be wellcomed !


Alternatively :


https://patents.google.com/patent/FR2528257A1/en   "sleeper"-idea from 1982 ::) ( Made in Algeria)


The device according to the invention can title used like any other source of energy and the power supply of any other electric auto-mobile.

Or auto-nomous mobile ;)


Similar :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=12&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=ES&NR=2265253A1&KC=A1


For spanish patent office engineers/peers a protection =grantable idea ,now free :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/inpadoc?CC=ES&NR=2265253B1&KC=B1&FT=D&ND=4&date=20080116&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP




Since 2002 often the basic idea publishing : 1.,3.,4.,13.,14.,15.,16.


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=tanaka+saburo&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search




I am often "lust-ig aufgelegt" :




http://www.evalbum.com/314        Motor:         1500 W rated assuming 2021 conventional 1750 W peak consume per ? Km


Battery 12 V x 70 Ampére = 840 VA / 49 Km Range = 1715 VA per 100 Km  by assumed average 30 Km*h


 x rated capacity DoD ? Lead normally 50% max. !


1750 W/10 = 175 W peak consume per 100 Km as cap-coil motor performance




But 1500 W is the rated motor power here  :o  :

( based by https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=4&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19920416&CC=DE&NR=4031920A1&KC=A1 )

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001207&CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1


compared the early https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citicar electric motorization : 2,5 hp DC by lower tension !




with cap-coil e-motor and brake energy  recuperation ?


We are developping the REAL-WORLD autonomous drive vehicle,
                                     by real physical/technical and 24/365 street velocity controled speed need,


not over-powered and over-weight  and expensive chaiselongue-on-4-wheels


Tools from point A to point B


easy :
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mrscharroo/6285240557/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mrscharroo/6285248279/in/photostream/
 
from the same Designer Paul Arzens ,1942, https://es-es.facebook.com/Paris.Insolite.Secret/videos/l%C5%93uf-%C3%A9lectrique-de-paul-arzens-%C3%A0-paris-en-1942/431610784093682/


5x 12 V a 250 Ah lead batteries,totally 300 Kg ,equipped ,70 Km*h peak,100 Km range


electric motor efficiency 1942 ? assuming peak 70% and average < 50%


original ic to electric conversion numbers,1959 :
https://www.renaultgroup.com/news-onair/actualites/henney-kilowatt-la-dauphine-electrique-americaine/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henney_Kilowatt
The 1959 models all ran on a 36-volt system of 18 two-volt batteries in series.
The 36-volt cars had a top speed of 40 miles per hour (64 km/h) and could run approximately 40 miles (64 km) on a full charge.


 After the 36-volt system was realized to be impractical, the Kilowatt drivetrain was redesigned by Eureka Williams as a 72-volt system for the 1960 model year.
It employed 12 six-volt batteries in series. The 72-volt models were much more practical than the 1959 36-volt models.
The 1960 Kilowatt boasted a top speed of nearly 60 mph (97 km/h) with a range of over 60 miles (97 km) on a single charge.





many freaky non-/industrial ideas https://www.flickr.com/photos/mrscharroo/6254055384/in/photostream/


GM concept car 1969 https://www.flickr.com/photos/mrscharroo/6075724563/in/photostream/ could be the Citroen AMI  ::) in early stage


https://www.citroen.pt/universo-da-marca-citroen/concept-cars/ami-one-concept.html




https://mymodernmet.com/ultramodern-zero-personal-helicopter/ technical data for performance improvement ?  :)


-2030- and beyond mobility design outlook : https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/465770786453828645/?d=t&mt=signup
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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2021, 10:15:52 PM »
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=tanaka+saburo&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search


How cheap could such an inverter system become realized ,mass production condition ?


 For off-grid house and car or as portable energy deliverer/source ?


inverter costs :


https://overunity.com/2606/electricity-saver/


http://www.powerguru.org/planar-transformers-are-essential-for-truly-efficient-electrichybrid-vehicles/

https://web.archive.org/web/20161008041359/http://www.powerguru.org/planar-transformers-are-essential-for-truly-efficient-electrichybrid-vehicles/

It is common for a 5kW planar transformer to cost in the region of   $23   nowadays,
and in volumes of 100k+ prices below   $10   per piece are easily achievable.

( Watt rated or Wattpeak ?)

lowest : 10 US$/5000 W = 1000 US$cents/5000 W = 0,002 US$/Wp




PV-on-grid inverter costs
https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy06osti/38771.pdf


for 2020 a production price estimation :     PV-grid inverter     0,10  US$/Wp




fifthy times different costs dependent also on-grid/off-grid quality minimum regulation ( clearly also input V and output V)






simple commercial price difference we see for example between " square wave inverter" and " Pure sine wave inverter"


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332265514_Square_Wave_Inverters_-A_performance_Comparison_with_Pure_Sine_wave_Inverters

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« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2021, 05:47:22 PM »
https://www.google.com/search?q=shell+eco+marathon+electric+mobile&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=shell+eco+marathon+electric+mobile&aqs=chrome..69i57.12176j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

http://www.duke-ev.org/prototype-evolution


prototypes electric engine power


Nominal Motor Power: 75 W        Motor: 350W hub motor          Nominal motor power: 250W




1000 Km with 1 KWh battery load by 25 Km*h speed  = 25 W per hour drive consume




2 KWh battery capacity in 15 minutes loading ,means 8000 VA loader  https://www.log9materials.com/two-wheeler.html

200 Wh in 1,5 minutes,8000 VA or 200 Wh in 8 minutes,1500 VA conventional power outlet

20 Wh in   9 seconds,8000 VA   or 20 Wh in 48 seconds,1500 VA conventional power outlet


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_C5


Electric motor 250 W (0.34 hp) assuming with average 20 Km*h = 250 W/0,9 ( for 90% e-motor efficiency)/ 0,2 = 1400 Wh/100 Km



https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19951107&CC=US&NR=5463914A&KC=A


by application and  1/10 less electric consume   -by given claim-    1400 Wh/10    =        140 Wh/100 Km


                                                                                                                      or            28W per hour


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https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.autozeitung.de/mega-test-die-100-sparsamsten-autos-verbrauchs-vergleich-66107.html


Supergasoline ic engine car : REAL-LIFE teste average 6 liter/100 Km


 EVs convert over 77% of the electrical energy from the grid to power at the wheels.
 Conventional gasoline vehicles only convert about 12%–30% of the energy stored in gasoline to power at the wheels.


77% of the electrical energy from the grid to power at the wheels ,from battery electrical energy to power at the wheels ?


Grid electricity to charger/battery charge losts ?

http://www.duke-ev.org/prototype-evolution  : Motor Controller to Wheel Efficiency: 86%




                 ic engine car power-to-wheel ratio/efficiency


https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1118534_fact-of-the-week-internal-combustion-cars-still-waste-70-to-88-percent-of-energy

This week, the DOE noted that of all the energy splashed into a conventional car's gas tank, only 12 to 30 percent actually goes to move the car down the road.


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306261920309752


According to [5], typical values are 10%–13% on urban cycles and about 28% for highway cycles.



                electric drive car power-to-wheel ratio/efficiency


https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/evtech.shtml#:~:text=Energy%20efficient.,to%20power%20at%20the%20wheels.






13%  ic engine /77% electric motor  x 60 KWh (= 6 lt. gasoline) = 10,1 KWh  urban cycle


30%  ic engine /77% electric motor  x 60 KWh (= 6 lt. gasoline) = 23,4 KWh  highway cycle


                                                                             TARGET

                                                        10,1 KWh  urban cycle "average heavy" city cars


                    less consume,weight                                                                              brake energy recuperation


https://www.voanews.com/silicon-valley-technology/can-better-electric-motor-save-planet

                  10,1 KWh to +- 5 KWh/100 Km                                                                from 3 KWh to 5 KWh improved generator /100 Km





                                                                5 KWh consume - 5 KWh recuperation


                                                                             = NET ZERO


               capacitive cycle motor


                1 KWh consume                                                                              unmodified conventional generator : 3 KWh recuperation


             


              power-capacity-and-power-capability comparison  between batteries and capacitors and active/reactive re-/charge time !
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« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2021, 10:54:13 PM »
Lavenami,Electrilite,esoro,Garwood super electric car :


but https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Arzens https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Paul_Arzens_Oeuf.JPG/800px-Paul_Arzens_Oeuf.JPG


comes the basic idea nearest !


With a total weight of less than 800 pounds, the Electric Egg boasted a range of 63 miles and a top speed of 44 M.P.H., respectable performance compared to the few alternatives available at the time.


https://www.hotcars.com/a-detailed-look-back-at-the-loeuf-electrique-concept-car/


The body of the L'Oeuf Electrique Concept Car weighed in at just 66 lbs. which clearly made it a tippity-toe car!


 Adding the electric motor bumped up its weight to 198.4 lbs. and it was only after the battery pack was added that the total weight came up to 771 lbs.


It clearly was one of the lightest road-going cars made. The major reason for its extremely lightweight layout was an aluminum shell with plexiglass covering almost more than half of the exterior. Arzens clearly loved to pick his Electric Egg up!




66 lbs or 30 Kg the car body


132,4 lbs  or 60 Kg ( 198,4 lbs -66 lbs ) the electric motor


572,6 lbs or 260 Kg the batteries , 5 x 12 V x 250 Ah = 15 000 VAh , DoD !




Totally  350 Kg the  WW2-era  40´version




                                                               2021 ?


66 lbs or 30 Kg the car body


max.      20 Kg the electric motor, permanent magnets

f.e.        Scooter version, 5 KW :     http://www.schillergy.com/pdf/schiller-energy.pdf




the batteries weight : for 15 000 VAh ,with 80%+ DoD


             120 Kg   125 Wh/Kg


               75 Kg   200 Wh/Kg 

https://www.greencarcongress.com/2021/07/20210730-catl.html

               60 Kg   250 Wh/Kg

https://chargedevs.com/newswire/24m-surpasses-250-wh-kg-on-the-road-to-400/

               30 Kg   500 Wh/Kg

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/650_whkg_1400_whl_recharg_batt_new_era_elect_mobility_ymikhaylik_0.pdf

               15 Kg 1000 Wh/Kg 


https://innolith.com/de/innovative-energietechnologie-von-innolith-ermoglicht-fahrzeugbatterien-fur-ev-reichweiten-von-1000-km/
https://insideevs.com/news/343771/innolith-claims-its-on-path-to-1000-wh-kg-battery-energy-density/




          An hundred-twenty-five Kilogram (200Wh/Kg+ battery )


                                    to hundred Kilogram(300 Wh/Kg+ battery) city-car ?









Electric motor power,RPM ?


https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27%C5%92uf_%C3%A9lectrique

Motorisation[modifier | modifier le code]Pour contourner le rationnement de carburant durant l'occupation de la France par l'Allemagne pendant la Seconde Guerre mondiale, Paul Arzens motorise son véhicule avec un moteur électrique alimenté par cinq batteries de 300 kg, de 12 volts et 250 Ah, situées sous la banquette, pour une vitesse de pointe de 70 km/h, et une autonomie de 100 km3. Il remplace le moteur électrique à la fin de la guerre, par un moteur à essence monocylindre Peugeot de 125 cm3 et 5,5 ch, pour une vitesse de pointe de 80 km/h4.


5,5 hp  x 0,745 are +  - 4,1 KW  as IC engine powered version ,  by then 80 Km/h instead 70 Km/h peak as electric version !


As ic version less battery weight !



15 000 VAh nominal capacity X 50% DoD lead battery x 50% electric motor (1940) average efficiency = 3750 VAh available net power


60 miles range are +- 106 Km,so we can assume it was a nominal  ( 70 Km/h  peak velocity /106 Km range) x 3750 VA =


                                                            2,5 KW rated  electric motor


"learning by doing" and/or "learning by (others their) experience" :


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« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2021, 11:16:45 AM »
https://www.ina.fr/video/I14267037 time-sequence 0:28 to 0:30 the weight/movement car/driver relation by car leaving


The known problem as "Elk-teste" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXs1Bc489V4      MB Model A and Smart car

Elk or playing kids or unfocused people in the city streets !


Decreasing weight changes car/road,car/driver and car/speed physical parameters !


350 Kg/ 75 Kg driver(f./m.) weight ratio     to    125-100 Kg car weight/75 Kg weight ratio and by same car hight/road ratio and speed  !


Instead hard-top body change to inflatable soft-top "bubble/sphere",an average 2 hours daily mobile use reduce related 24 hours blower use as shelter the blower electric consume !


When 1300 W by 29 sqm area - improved - for given car volume the blower consume per hour to 10 W reduceable !


"open space" mobile with anti-wind/rain/flying objects safety !






That 30 Km/h city speed max car does not need a great electric motor power number, reference :




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_F-Cell_Roadster


It has an electric motor powered ( by a fuel cell located ) at the rear of a power of 1.2 kW (1.63 hp).


 It has a low top speed of 25 km/h (16 mph) and can achieve an operating range of 350 km (217 mi).


Roadster weight (net):


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.autowallpaper.de/hersteller/mercedes-benz/mercedes-f-cell-roadster-concept.html


Materials such as carbon, aluminum, plexiglass, glass and carbon fiber make the Roadster a flyweight of 350 kg.


 ::)  " .....  The F-CELL Roadster is controlled using drive-by-wire technology and has a joystick instead of a steering wheel. ...."




                         Arzens aluminum, plexiglass  L´OEUF : with joystick instead of a steering wheel ?




  25 Km/h   top            1,2 KW   MB F-Cell Roadster


  40 Km/h   top            1,5 KW   12 Volt  weight ? http://www.evalbum.com/314


120 Km/h+ top            1,5 KW   230 Volt/50 Hz conventional gasoline car ( with ic engine 800 Kg+ ) to electric modification


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/007633831/publication/DE10011074A1?q=pn%3DDE10011074A1


 8)  when 2 KW/Kg by 48 Volt DC  and 10 KW/Kg by 400 Volt AC how heavy becomes an 1,5 KW 230 Volt AC  4000 RPM electric motor ?


                                                 http://www.schillergy.com/pdf/schiller-energy.pdf
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« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2021, 10:39:20 AM »
 25 Km/h   top            1,2 KW   MB F-Cell Roadster


  40 Km/h   top            1,5 KW   12 Volt  weight ? http://www.evalbum.com/314


120 Km/h+ top            1,5 KW   230 Volt/50 Hz conventional gasoline car ( with ic engine 800 Kg+ ) to electric modification


http://www.evalbum.com/314  :   weight ? 
                                                                        Curb Weight  220 Pounds (99 Kilograms)




                                         Which is the Lavenami average consume per hour ?


                                         1,5 KW 12 Volt motor ( without conversion efficiency knowing)


                                         12 Volt by 70 Ah lead battery


                                         40 Km/h top speed


                                         49 Km range with given nominal lead battery capacity




Calculation :                             Which is the Lavenami average consume per hour ?


for 100 Km range                      12 V x 70 Ah / 0,49 = 1750 VAh nominal lead battery capacity


for 25 Km/h average speed        1750 VAh /4           =   437,5 VAh per hour average   


x DoD factor lead       


       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep-cycle_battery#:~:text=For%20lead%2Dacid%20deep%2Dcycle,best%20for%20storage%20vs%20cost.


https://federalbatteries.com.au/news/what-depth-discharge-and-why-it-so-important#:~:text=A%20battery's%20depth%20of%20discharge,divided%20by%20battery%20nominal%20capacity.

A battery’s depth of discharge (DoD) indicates the percentage of the battery that has been discharged relative to the overall capacity of the battery. Depth of Discharge is defined as the capacity that is discharged from a fully charged battery, divided by battery nominal capacity. Depth of discharge is normally expressed as a percentage. For, example, if a 100 A h battery is discharged for 20 minutes at a current of 50 A, the depth of discharge is 50 * 20 / 60 / 100 = 16.7 %.


Attention :     Depth of Discharge : to differ A(mpére depth) 50 A/100 A  = 50%  and by time = 16.7 % A(mpére-hour depth)







taking low 50 % for lead battery anf 70% for " deep discharge " batteries


                                                437,5 VAh per hour average  x 0,5 DoD = net(to)  +- 220 VAh

                                                                                                              energy consume


                                                220 VAh /0,7                                       =     314 VAh


                                                 314 VAh "high  DoD" battery to wheel ratio per hour and 25 Km

                                                    We need 1250 VAh battery capacity for 100 Km range


                                                   By given Wh(VAh)/Kg alternatives :



the batteries weight : for 15 000 VAh ,with 80%+ DoD


         120 Kg   125 Wh/Kg             


           75 Kg   200 Wh/Kg https://www.greencarcongress.com/2021/07/20210730-catl.html   


            60 Kg  250 Wh/Kghttps://chargedevs.com/newswire/24m-surpasses-250-wh-kg-on-the-road-to-400/           


           30 Kg   500 Wh/Kg https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/650_whkg_1400_whl_recharg_batt_new_era_elect_mobility_ymikhaylik_0.pdf


           15 Kg 1000 Wh/Kg


https://innolith.com/de/innovative-energietechnologie-von-innolith-ermoglicht-fahrzeugbatterien-fur-ev-reichweiten-von-1000-km/


https://insideevs.com/news/343771/innolith-claims-its-on-path-to-1000-wh-kg-battery-energy-density/


                     1250 VAh battery weight : between 10 Kg and 1,25 Kg for 100 Km range









Arzen L´OEUF curb weight estimation ,2021 standart :

                    30 Kg car body

                    10 Kg f.e. 1,5 KW 230 V AC Schiller electric motor and DC/AC inverter

                    10 Kg battery with 125 Wh/Kg


                   totals : 50 Kg


with 50% power saving magnet array e-drive improved and on-board 250 W per hour e-generator :

                                             really long range reachable ,practically also autonomous


   (  Mr.Birmingham,250 W https://geospatial.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83476d35153ef022ad3c0d118200b-popup are enough ! ;)  )

















what is here ,by Lavenami numbers analysis,also remarkable ?

What in the Li Yng publication is meaned with up to 9/10 "power savings" !

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19951107&CC=US&NR=5463914A&KC=A

Rated drive power compared real power per hour consume !

And : https://www.quantum-controls.co.uk/insights/faqs/what-is-cube-law/

                   
                                 rated power/ real energy consume :     A.per hour        B. per 100 Km




http://www.duke-ev.org/prototype-evolution

                                                                      teach me !

                                           Vehicle Weight: 26 kg race ready


                                           Nominal Motor Power: 75 W


                                                              Duke,many thanks !








https://www.log9materials.com/   2000 Wh in 15 minutes charging ( = min. 8000 VA loader)






                                                    314 Wh need per hour conventional motor


                                                    157 Wh need per hour magnet array motor




                                                   - brake energy recuperation /AmWind on tect generator ;D

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Re: The MAD MAX e-car
« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2021, 09:15:56 PM »
Learning from the past is sometimes difficult :


https://simanaitissays.com/2018/04/01/george-constantinescu-scientist-engineer-inventor-automaker-part-2/


https://simanaitissays.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/constantinesco_car.jpg?w=547&h=741


                                                               5 hp !?


                              This water-cooled engine displaced a mere 494 cc and produced 5 taxable hp


                               https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_horsepower   


                               versus Physics  horsepower






                                How such numbers convertable to electric horsepower numbers ?




                               Electric DC Watt Volt


                               Electric AC Watt Volt Hz


                               Electric Pulse DC Watt Volt Hz duty cycle


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Constantinescu


Sonics[edit]


In 1918, he published the book A treatise on transmission of power by vibrations[4] in which he described his theory of sonics.


The theory is applicable to various systems of power transmission but has mostly been applied to hydraulic systems.
 
Sonics differs from hydrostatics, being based on waves, rather than pressure, in the liquid.

Constantinescu argued that, contrary to popular belief, liquids are compressible.[5]

Transmission of power by waves in a liquid (e.g. water or oil) required a generator to produce the waves and a motor to use the waves to do work, either by percussion (as in rock drills) or by conversion to rotary motion.[2]


compared



https://www.engineair.com.au/


Our engines diameter is not much bigger than a flip out mobile phone; yet has sufficient force to power a car. A single engine can power a 600kg car.

This small engine weighs little more than a bag of potatoes (6 kg) and has no more than 10 major components.


Our engine achieves a mechanical efficiency of 90% and delivers constant torque with virtually no friction. Only 1 PSI (≈ 6,8 kPa) of pressure is needed to overcome the friction.




climate change by temperature

https://web.archive.org/web/20110929000932/http://www.engineair.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18&Itemid=12


A 4 litre internal combustion engine is in fact using approximately a 1/4 of a million litres of air per hour running at 2000 rpm.


The consumption of petrol in this case is for generating hot air, it is that hot air that pushes the pistons and powers a vehicle.



 
    1/4 of a million litres of air before engine entering and after engine process outgassing temperature change ?


                           https://www.toppr.com/guides/physics/fundamentals/density-of-air-how-to-calculate-air-density/


The density of air is about 1.225 kilogram per cubic meter (kg/m3) at 15 degree Celsius and at sea level.
 Also, this is the value according to the International Standard Atmosphere (ISA).
If we talk about other units then it is 1225.0 gram per cubic meter (g/m3), 0.0765 lb./ (cu ft.), or 0.0023769 slug/ (cu ft.)








How many joules does it take to raise air 1 degree?



Air has a heat capacity of about 700 Joules per kg per °K and a density of just 1.2 kg/m3,
 so its initial energy would be 700 x 1 x 1.2 x 293 = 246,120 Joules
— a tiny fraction of the thermal energy stored in the water.


https://www.reddit.com/r/AskPhysics/comments/ajao9x/energy_required_to_heat_up_100m%C2%B3_of_air_by_10c/


Energy required to heat up 100m³ of air by 10C from 10C to 20C

Formula:

specific heat capacity of substance x mass of substance x temperature difference


Specific heat capacity of air is 1.006 kJ/kgC

Mass of air:density of air at 10C is 1.2466 kg/m3 and mass = density x volume = 1.2466 x 100 = 124KG

Temperature differential = 10C

energy needed = 1.006 x 124 x 10 = 1247 KJ


1247        KJ    for   10°K   increase   of   100 cbm of air

                               /10
 
  124,7      KJ    for     1°K  increase  of   100 cbm of air

                             / 100

      1,247 KJ    for   1°K increase   of     1 cbm of air

compared   

  246,120 Joules


                                                     


                                             1 247 Joules/246 120 Joules




              How do IPCC climate change researcher in their well air conditionized rooms temperature changes calculate ?

 

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