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Author Topic: The MAD MAX e-car  (Read 9496 times)

Offline lancaIV

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The MAD MAX e-car
« on: July 23, 2021, 12:56:42 PM »
 ::)  Thanks AI it is Frei-/Freya-/Fri-day ,time for designing :


the basic model :


https://books.google.pt/books?id=jSEDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA74&lpg=PA74&dq=garfield+wood+super+electric+car&source=bl&ots=Qw7-MnGha-&sig=ACfU3U3NayfcCxw1iLzHp4asdCtbVDYmIw&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwje9aKIg_nxAhW3BGMBHfNGDuMQ6AEwD3oECBwQAw#v=onepage&q=garfield%20wood%20super%20electric%20car&f=false


https://www.mlive.com/auto/2011/07/volt_schmolt_gold_cup_legend_g.html


2x 1,5 hp ( or ea. 1,12 KW)  electric 90 Volt DC motor,up to 12 000 RPM =


                                                          rated  2,25 KW  electric


So we will modify the numbers and e-drive model :


2x rated 2 KW
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20091130&CC=PT&NR=104078A&KC=A

and implement


a pedal generator like here  http://omni.mcn.org/ElectriLiteB/  Pedal Generators- 600 watts peak


                                                                    pedal electric car






some pedal powered vehicles


https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=pedal+generator+car&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj1poSMivnxAhWDmFwKHYOcDt8QjJkEegQIBhAC&biw=1366&bih=605




pedal generator output to battery/capacitor to electric drive


pedal generator output to https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=9318 to battery/capacitor to electric drive






something to change in this concept
( after American Wind car performance and Arestov conventional wind generator modification comparison ) :

https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=9318

The Permanent Magnet Alternator  with Arestov double winding

The High Velocity Electric Fan with Pax Scientific Impeller

The High Velocity Electric Fan Motor sourced by


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=JP&NR=2007028879A&KC=A

When an adult pedals in average a conventional  generator 100 W per hour electricity ,with improved generator technics the cyclists gets 200 Watt per hour !
The 2x rated 2 KW output e-drives consumes net less than 400 W per hour ! ≤ 400 e-W in,≥ 4 000 mech W out !
The average mech W consume for average velocity is normally 1/3-1/2 rated drive value !



bicycle like pedaling with a. 2x rated 2 KW e-drive with minimum 40 mph top speed


to later b. up to 2x 20 KW rated  Plauson/Imris/Ferreira drive high speed experimental vehicle ( Autodromo Estoril or Faro/Loulé race teste )




                                        XYZ mph top speed ( three digits pedal electric speed  8) )


                                                                      limitless range


                                                    HORCH = AUDI EUGENIK CHAMPIONAT


                                                          multi-user-cycle electrification


https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=mehrpersonenfahrrad&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi9_bDCkvnxAhURoRQKHeY4AxMQjJkEegQIBxAC&biw=1366&bih=605



                                                               Gar(field) Wood superelectric car

                                                                      June,1967

                                                              rated  2,25 KW  electric


                                      US7411363 (B2) ― 2008-08-12

 The present disclosure has evaluated numerous conventional motor-related circuits and identified new methods that realize power conservation that is approximately 150% to around 200% better than conventionally available motors.
                                                           
                                                                         

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=20080812&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=US&NR=7411363B2&KC=B2&ND=4




and who does not like pedaling :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190207&CC=JP&NR=2019022271A&KC=A


this are 1000 ( one thousand ) US$/Euros 2x e-drive + controler + inverter system incl. LTO-battery  costs




It was ridiculous, rated 1,5 KW 4000 RPM electric motor as City-car drive :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001207&CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1


It will be standart , in urban zone : 30 Km*h legal speed max. zone !


Global Trendsetter : https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.infranken.de/ueberregional/deutschland/tempolimit-tempo-30-statt-50-in-staedten-spanien-macht-es-vor-art-5207035

S.E.A.T. : Sociedad Española de Automóviles de Turismo,  Turismo = Free Time  8) ;D  V.W. = Volks-Wiegenlied



The over-powered car-industry is with this act 90% in price and existence worth deflationated ! Kastriert ! Extinction !
 
Political to compare with PR China 80´  "one child -family politics",


now there new defined  !

But the PR Chineses are now negative fertility consequence approved and intelligent :

https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Junge-Chinesen-wollen-lieber-flachliegen-article22697725.html


Abort the unwished babies,abort the unwished corrupt Oldies !

CLEAN FUTURE,ZERO-CREDIT FUTURE ! CASH ECONOMY ! Kg-BARTER-TRADE !



Der letzte Speedmaster druecke den letzten Kolbendeckel zu ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6K3a_ug9JE






All cars in future with black-box,velocity recorder,equipped ! 24/365 velocity controle ! USB-stick like,cheap !
« Last Edit: July 23, 2021, 03:48:49 PM by lancaIV »

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Re: The MAD MAX e-car
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2021, 11:47:50 AM »

https://about.bnef.com/blog/battery-pack-prices-cited-below-100-kwh-for-the-first-time-in-2020-while-market-average-sits-at-137-kwh/


Comparison V nominal,Ah and charge cycles




https://german.alibaba.com/product-detail/customized-hot-sell-cheaper-price-rechargeable-18650-battery-3-7v-1500mah-1800mah-2500mah-5c-lithium-ion-battery-60823996398.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normal_offer.d_title.66525b0f5WrLxD


3,7 V x 1,5 Ah x (1000 Gr./ 45 Gr. each cell) = 123 Wh/Kg ,500 charge cycles


https://german.alibaba.com/product-detail/china-bulk-sale-3-7v-18650-li-ion-battery-rechargeable-lithium-ion-batteries-1600084471856.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normal_offer.d_title.46a65b0faEWySZ


3,7 V x 2,6 Ah x (1000 Gr./44 Gr. each cell) = 218 Wh/Kg ,500-1000 charge cycles


1 KWh = 104 battery cells x 0,99 US$ = 103   US$/KWh
                                 
                                       x 0,2  US$ =   20,8 US$/KWh

Mass selling price ,fob factory ! Mass production costs ?



2020

 Battery Pack Prices Cited Below $100/kWh ..."


2025  preview

" Battery Pack Prices Cited Below $50/kWh ..."


2030 preview

" Battery Pack Prices Cited Below $25/kWh ..."


















The future about battery capacity and weight :


https://books.google.pt/books?id=jSEDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA74&lpg=PA74&dq=garfield+wood+super+electric+car&source=bl&ots=Qw7-MnGha-&sig=ACfU3U3NayfcCxw1iLzHp4asdCtbVDYmIw&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwje9aKIg_nxAhW3BGMBHfNGDuMQ6AEwD3oECBwQAw#v=onepage&q=garfield%20wood%20super%20electric%20car&f=false


1967 :


520 pounds lead-battery, 8 units x 12 Volt (x assumption : 55 Ah)  = 235,6 Kg






 2021 :


235,6 Kg


= x 0,5 (lead DoD ) / 0,8 (lithium DoD) = 147,25 Kg by 2021 DoD standart


147,25 Kg x [(40 Wh/Kg lead )/ ( 170 Wh/Kg lithium)] 


= 34,7 Kg lithium 170 Wh/Kg battery pack




2030 +


=  11,8 Kg           500 Wh/Kg  https://www.energy.gov/eere/articles/battery500-progress-update


=    5,9 Kg         1000 Wh/Kg  https://overunity.com/18215/innolith-battery-1000-whkg/

The chemistry used in this battery has been proven to operate for more than 55,000 full depth of discharge cycles, which is between 10 and 100 times the maximum number of cycles of existing Li-ion batteries in use today.








2021


34,7 Kg lithium 170 Wh/Kg battery pack


2 x rated 2 KW Plauson/Imris/Ferreira cap-motor






a. electric/mechanical input/output C.O.P. 10     34,7 Kg/10


= 3,47 Kg lithium 170 Wh/Kg battery pack




b. electric/mechanical input/output C.O.P. 100   34,7 Kg/100


= 0,347 Kg lithium 170 Wh/Kg battery pack



here to calculate right : e-drive VA average/peak    /    battery cells average/peak output  ( CSIRO hibride ultra-battery concept ! )





https://german.alibaba.com/g/lithium-ion-battery.html


actually average Kg lithium battery price ( asian production) :




for example


https://german.alibaba.com/product-detail/china-manufacturer-144v-200ah-ev-battery-for-car-ev-car-battery-pack-350v-for-electric-car-30-kwh-50kwh-lithium-ion-battery-60836234704.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normal_offer.d_title.66525b0fddg64B

fob factory                     1610 US$/140 Kg =                                                     <  11,5 US$/Kg

                                 or 1610 US$/ 28,8 KWh                                                      56 US$/KWh

 attention : beside weight: 290 Kg also listed weight:140 Kg , we take 140 Kg


based by " More Batteries " , model CTS-144200   144 V 200 Ah number


( their actual >=200 Sätze gross selling price 1430 US$/28,8 KWh is 2025 average market price standart : 50 US$/KWh ! )




Tesla Motor batteries ( 7100 units battery-cells sample )


https://german.alibaba.com/product-detail/rechargeable-18650-lithium-ion-battery-3-7v-1200mah-li-ion-battery-cell-60789528153.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normal_offer.d_image.66525b0fddg64B

111 WH/Kg = 3,7 V x 1,2 Ah x 25 units a 40 Gr./cell

fob factory                      30 US$ cents ea./0,04 Kg ea cell =                                  7,5 US$/Kg   or     67,5 US$/KWh






                                                        C.O.P. 100 Plauson/Imris/Ferreira

                                                   0,347 Kg lithium   170 Wh/Kg battery pack


                                            =    0,069 Kg  lithium 1000 Wh/Kg battery pack


                                                                    x 7,5 US$/Kg

                             the 1 US$cent/Wh battery capacity production price frontier  : 20?? reaching ?


                            actually 3-4 US$cents/Wh production costs







                                             supercheap Amory Lovins Hypercar development


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=20091223&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=WO&NR=2009154492A2&KC=A2&ND=4


the battery cell wrapped core Drawing page 8/9


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=20091223&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=WO&NR=2009154492A2&KC=A2&ND=4


                                       0,069 Kg  lithium 1000 Wh/Kg battery pack

                                      0,069 Kg / C.O.P. 5 Tanaka Saburo = 0,014 Kg
 

 0,014 Kg   or   59 Wh/C.O.P. 5     x      a.  11,5 US$/Kg or 56 US$/KWh                          b.  7,5 US$/Kg   or     67,5 US$/KWh



can David Yurth generator coil coating improvement also improve inverter/phase transformer secondary coils output ?  ::)


 


                                               56    US$/KWh / 3000 charge cycles =     < 0,02 US$/charge cycle KWh


https://german.alibaba.com/product-detail/china-manufacturer-144v-200ah-ev-battery-for-car-ev-car-battery-pack-350v-for-electric-car-30-kwh-50kwh-lithium-ion-battery-60836234704.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normal_offer.d_title.66525b0fddg64B


                                              1000 US$/KWh / 1 000 000 charge cycles = 0,001 US$/ charge cycle KWh


              https://kilowattlabs.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIg9yR_9L78QIVqIFQBh1gEg49EAAYASAAEgIAsvD_BwE




                                                  20 times or 2000% industrial margin difference !






https://www.greencarcongress.com/2008/02/loremo-to-build.html

and this battery pack , 6 KWh/100 Km consume x 200 Km range + heater/cooler consume ~ 20 KWh

https://www.hotcars.com/loremo-ls-concept-car-/

https://german.alibaba.com/product-detail/china-manufacturer-144v-200ah-ev-battery-for-car-ev-car-battery-pack-350v-for-electric-car-30-kwh-50kwh-lithium-ion-battery-60836234704.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normal_offer.d_title.66525b0fddg64B


1000 US$ costs
1000 US$ costs the P/I/F e-drive , 15 KW nominal + variable speed controler


as middle calculation : GoldenMotor 10 KW Tata Nano electrification performance
                                 and Loremo " The EV will use a motor of approximately 20 kW power. " ( peak or rated/nominal  20 KW ?!)




7500 US$ selling price easy reachable by Renault-Dacia mass production regime/administration,


5000 US$  selling price per car by Renault Kwid India mass production regime/administration


instead conventional      200   Km range


C.O.P. 10 P/I/F e-drive  2000   Km range


and C.O.P. 100          20 000   Km range


Autonomous City-(TAXI)cars drives by 30 Km*h average and 24 hours day = 720 Km per day ( nonstop) less 10% stop-time = 650 Km

The Loremo is an outside City fun-car,
new City-vehicles are mostly 3000-2000 US$ selling price worth by law  demanded performance !
« Last Edit: July 24, 2021, 03:30:40 PM by lancaIV »

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Re: The MAD MAX e-car
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2021, 01:59:13 PM »
You have to know the chinese history where during the Mao revolution the youngster sended their "political unwished and political corrupt " Olds ,included own familiar grand-/parents and brother-/sister-/s into concentration camps ! Millions died !


Fact stays as Fact !



Jerry Volland,´re You Chinese ?  ::) ;)


Beside the chinese KP (kommunistic Party) only represents 10% from the total population,the question in future will be how the 90% not being "Party"-member or "No-KP-Member-Party" how they will treat the KP-POLITBUERO-HEADS with each one multimillion $/Euro deposits
by swiss investment banks like SKA/Credit Suisse !


How treats officially the PRC-Constitution such behaviouring "dissidents" ?


 :-[



Why limit "corrupt" just to the "Oldies"?  Phonetical family : "e"lder from "ae"lter/older


                                                                                       ( or does some seeing themself "states-maen-erisch" !?





                    "  You mean, like, ME? " It is not about AGE(in years),but if You are by constitutional view- corrupt - :                 
                                                                                   
                                                                            yes,worthless ! To eliminate !

                             

 :)
                                    Okay , amplifying to "corrupt criminals in geral,age-independent,gender-independent " !   
                                             
                                                                           Totale Inklusion ! ;D

                                                     Nu´ gluecklich und zufrieden ? Politi-sch/-ical correct !




Why do you wish to truncate Humanity? :P


Oh,I do not wish it ! Others are truncating !


Up to thirty years back from 2021 : and from this date previews from many with fear,hope,plans (constructive,destructive)

                                               1993

https://web.archive.org/web/20130623184627/http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/spiegelspecial/index-1993-4.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20100303002309/http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/spiegelspecial/index-1995-2.html

                                             
https://web.archive.org/web/20150423013511/http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/spiegelspecial/d-52620571.html



actio/reactio observation          -2021


f.e.


 Mit dem Bau des Atatürk-Damms zum Beispiel, hinter dem sich der Euphrat stauen soll, erhält die Türkei eine gefährliche Waffe gegen Syrien und den Irak - Länder, die auf das Wasser von Euphrat und Tigris angewiesen sind. Reibereien zwischen den Anrainern gab es deswegen schon reichlich.


With the construction of the Ataturk Dam, for example, behind which the Euphrates will be dammed, Turkey is receiving a dangerous weapon against Syria and Iraq - countries that depend on the waters of the Euphrates and Tigris.
 As a result, there was already a lot of friction between the neighbors.                                       


Right or wrong decisions and consequences over the decades are fixed,archived ! 

https://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/index-1995-12.html  https://magazin.spiegel.de/EpubDelivery/image/title/SP/1995/12/260

Germany, River Ahr Valley
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.umweltwirtschaft.com/news/wasserverteilung-und-kanalisation/KIT-Hochwasserrisiken-wurden-deutlich-unterschaetzt-24718


1804  m³/s  flood  - 1910 m³/s flood - 2021   m³/s flood




individual chance/risc versus geral-social- chance/risc and


a. not help : "AUF EIGENE GEFAHR UND SELBSTVERANTWORTUNG"


b. solidar help decision !


sustainable human development : risc minimizing ,help need minimizing


Becoming : ADULT




Reading https://web.archive.org/web/20130623184627/http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/spiegelspecial/index-1993-4.html
 
            https://web.archive.org/web/20100303002309/http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/spiegelspecial/index-1995-2.html


                   related B(evoelkerungs)-Bombe /P(opulation)-Bomb



we get a new apostolic Pathfinder MOTTO :



                                ehemals : Unser taeglich Brot gib uns heute


                                Unseren taeglichen Atombombenabwurf sende uns heute


google translator sin-deformed :




                               Send us our daily atomic bombing today


                               


                                  From "cold war" to "cold peace"  society

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Re: The MAD MAX e-car
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2021, 04:31:46 PM »
"Eugenic" is often misunderstood or in ab-using use by some by own (ideologic) political interests !


 ab-use : by the NSDAP : Ausleseprozess ,"Herren-Rasse"






classical "eugenics" for example by the phyteic games ( body and mind arts) ,today promoted as "Modern Olympic Games "


Eugenic as scientifical research by experiments : Charles Darwin,Francis Galton
 


The Nature decides and selects over the time






And aren't you the same one who said a 1kWh battery, charged and discharged 25,000 times gives 25,000 kWh, for driving a million miles?


                                                          How do you charge it while driving?




                                  At first : No,I do not state it !  :'(  And for this not the inventor/developper !


If You visit the Uni Queensland (AUS),Stanford,North Carolina State and some other educational and experimental  institutions You will get the ,this, statement !  :)


When the capacity is 1 KWh energy storage ,the charge cycles (for 80% rest charge limit) given with 25 000 times = 25 000 KWh energy storage potential over the time !



Visiting the alibaba site You get actually such 25 000 cc potential as Lithium-Titanate-Oxide batteries ,
cheap (relatively ) TM Yinlong ,more expensive LTO by XALT !                                                               


                                                                  Commercial standart !


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 How do you charge it while driving?


"Under Natural Law, stupidity is a capital offence" - Robert Heinlein.


What if someone decided to abort unwished stupidity?




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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_A._Heinlein


                                             alternatively :

                                           "Under Natural Law, refusing  is a capital offence"








                                        How do you charge it - the demanded power/energy- while driving?




                                 This is the 1 Trillion turnover Car-manufacturing industry question/answer !? 8)


                                                                               
                                                                               ;D




                                         What if someone or NATURE decided to abort unwished stupidity?




                                          stupide : nicht lernfaehig ~ unable to learn/understand/accept

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Re: The MAD MAX e-car
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2021, 09:56:47 PM »
" ... slip that eugenics line into the mess ... " probably the impression by Yourself !


I studied the sublime and (auto-/extra-/intra-)suggestive techniques in the 80´,included NLP, but do not use it !




We have industrial a TIER4 evolution , we can understand this as optimizing process from human to automat( "robotique") production process translation !




As pioneers I see here Roy Kessinger : 250 Mio. motor/generator production investment plant to 25 Mio. investment reducement plant by same output


and similar ,with same investment and risc reducing effect, Tesla Motors ex-administration spin-off  " 24M " as battery producer  https://24-m.com/ !




Asking how to get the power/energy charge during driving a simple explanation and status quo statement :




we have many e-drive vehicles in use and experience by their driver


we have street legal speed limits


we have flat streets,hill (mass) up -pitch- and hill (mass) down drive


we have e-vehicles with different weight


So let us by given data do "virtual experiments" without ( secret insider knowledge) :






https://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/04/reva_introduces.html






37 KW AC e-motor


12 KWh energy consume per 100 Km


 3 KWh  brake energy recuperation per 100 Km ( stop and go )


= 9 KWh total/net consume per 100 Km


First question (?) :


why 37 rated KW power drive ( 75 KW peak )


when by Garfield Wood,Richard Fradella and others we see that 2,25-5 rated KW ( 5-10 KWpeak)  are sufficient  ?



but let us take this 37 KW motor :


how much less average consume with double coils ,specific permanent magnets array arrangement !?


12 KWh to 8-6 KWh average consume modificated the Reva concept car


the recuperation generator function : motor/generator splitting


improved generator technology with higher mechanical input/electrical output efficiency ?




from 3 KWh brake recuperation gain to 5,6 and more KWh per 100 Km !?


from 9 KWh net consume step-by-step to 3 KWh net consume to 0 KWh net consume per 100 Km












I am not interested in the " actually organized" car-manufacturing industry existence , but I think and decide about their negative influence in society and  estate politics !


Zero private individual car ownership in Cities/urban zone  : nothing against !


24/365 black-box controled speed/velocity : nothing against !


In many european estates/cities there is a parking lot demand per household,costs 12 500 Euros - 25 000 Euros for max. 1000 Euros worth !


Car-free cities means in Europe directly 12 500 - 25 000 Euros less infrastructure costs per private household !





I am technocratic radical ,bringing the society to "- 2021 lab standart" !


Including JHS-Exerzitien- path of reflection


An effective week-work wishing


OCWL


p.s.:     " I can self charge a battery with a single initiating pulse"
              I had to grin : " a battery"  how many hundreds/thousands of different battery models we can list ! ;)


             https://www.greenoptimistic.com/karpen-pile/ physical/chemical process ? power to weight ratio ?




            Der Spiegel Report 1995 : writing about the 3 Liter/100 Km consume ic-engine Twingo ( +- Renault Vesta 2 average consume)


            1993  priority date : consume halfing hybrid


            https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19950330&CC=DE&NR=4332378A1&KC=A1

same experimental results ( TV-news reported )


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=rolf+walge&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search


           1975 : Japan 50/50 water/fuel mix consume (similar in the 80´ Pierre Chambrin )


            KSL-Tuning,Wolfgang Krause : he got problem with his eco-tuning (Bild-Zeitung/Newspaper most economic car listening )


           less than 1 Liter fuel(+water) consume/100 Km  since 20 years experimented and published standart for "compact class cars" !




          https://unfccc.int/kyoto_protocol  ;D  - 80% GHG : 2000 Technical  Standart versus 2000 average consume


          https://www.smecc.org/winfield_salisbury.htm

         priority date, 5 years after the first oil  and credit tax skyrocking shock : 1978


          https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19820309&CC=US&NR=4318449A&KC=A


By way of example, an automobile engine of current design, operated at its most efficient speed, is expected to have an efficiency of 20 to 25 percent.


Nevertheless, the average efficiency of the ordinary motor car is much less,
being only on the order 2-5 percent, primarily because of poor compression ratios at low speed operation.


The problem is how to avoid inefficiencies which are incident to the operating cycle rather than to the basic engine construction.

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Re: The MAD MAX e-car
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2021, 01:26:22 PM »
By way of example, an automobile engine of current design, operated at its most efficient speed, is expected to have an efficiency of 20 to 25 percent.


Nevertheless, the average efficiency of the ordinary motor car is much less,being only on the order 2-5 percent, primarily because of poor compression ratios at low speed operation.

The problem is how to avoid inefficiencies which are incident to the operating cycle rather than to the basic engine construction.




                                               real  2-5% energy  efficiency from peak " apparent power" 20-25% effficiency




                               Forschungsfeldvergleich : engine or machine


                                                                     Der Mensch or the Human


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Jung : Mariendorf "Die Maschine Mensch" experiment ,living with/out target -motive : Motivation

https://www.uni-goettingen.de/de/3240.html?id=5463


                                             motorische/notorische Effizienz der Mensch-Maschine.individual or cooperative

                                                             the 90´ work(er)-reengineering change :

The problem is how to avoid inefficiencies which are incident to the operating cycle rather than to the basic human construction.


 the Human "worker" society :

non motivated real  2-5% energy/performance  efficiency from nominal and average   " apparent power" 20-25% effficiency (physio-biological )





https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.wort.lu/de/business/der-traum-von-der-mensch-maschine-5f609376de135b9236900af7


                                                   2062 pari ? Functional soon 2021 pari ,the "humanoids" !


                                                   " virtual human"-chip implants ,not human-body look robots






                                                Is applied EE-technology for traffic better than applied IC  ?


                                                                       Or when/how is EE better ?






                                                         fix revolutions electric motor   + ( when AC : inverter) battery


                                                  variable revolutions electric motor  +                  "    "    " 




                                                                          nominal current,inrush phase current


                                                       




                                                               


                                            primarily because of poor compression ratios at low speed operation.




                                                         traffic average low speed ,average and specific rush-hour


 
                                                                 
                                                         the nominal motor-generator/alternator performance


                                                         by rated 1000 RPM ,technical efficiency over 90%


                                                         by low speed RPM ,technical efficiency over 90%


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20121011&CC=US&NR=2012256422A1&KC=A1


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19780418&CC=US&NR=4085355A&KC=A




  by 1000 W rated                                                    1000 RPM    delivers    1000 W power


  by 1000 W rated                                                      100 RPM    delivers         1 W power




                                                                                      EE and FUZZY NEURO-LOGIK ;D

      From 100% potential                  input  10 Per Centum/Prozent   =     1 Per Milia/Promille output  ratio


                                                                      2 lever applied in 1 comparison

                                                                     non-linear,dynamical performance


                                                     

                   
                             

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Re: The MAD MAX e-car
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2021, 05:55:02 AM »
No, I'm not Chinese.  But eugenics just isn't right, no matter what the nationality.


And aren't you the same one who said a 1kWh battery, charged and discharged 25,000 times gives 25,000 kWh, for driving a million miles?  How do you charge it while driving?


"Under Natural Law, stupidity is a capital offence" - Robert Heinlein.


What if someone decided to abort unwished stupidity?




                     related " .... a 1kWh battery, charged and discharged 25,000 times gives 25,000 kWh, for driving a million miles ..."




https://www.autoweek.com/news/green-cars/a35367888/the-eternal-promise-of-solid-state-batteries/


QuantumScape, a California-based 2010 spinoff from Stanford University that has a joint venture with Volkswagen Group (which invested more than $300 million), said in January that it is indeed making great strides toward commercializing the cells. The company said it had created fire-resistant test batteries that continue to function after 1,100 cycles, retaining at least 80% of its capacity. “This corresponds to over 300,000 miles for a 300-mile battery pack and over 500,000 miles for a 500-mile battery pack,” the company said in a tweet.



 300 miles range x 1100 cycles = over 300 000 miles capacity -limit 80% capacity- servicelife


500 miles  range x 1100 cycles = over 500 000 miles capacity -limit 80% capacity - servicelife


                                                                              ergo


300 miles range x 25 000 cycles   LTO battery Yinlong =   7 500 000 miles servicelife
300 miles range x 40 000 cycles   LTO battery XALT    = 12 000 000 miles servicelife


300 miles range x 250 000 cycles AIB battery                 = 75 000 000 miles servicelife


                                                                                 dividing < 10 000 miles/per year average car use in Europe


                                                                                7 500 000 / 10 000      = 750 years use


                                                                               12 000 000/  10 000     = 1200 years use


                                                                               and as non plus ultra :


                                                                               75 000 000/   10 000   = 7500 years use

                                                                             
                                                                               human life in years,average : 80 years   car life in years,average : 15 years


                                                                              Some could mean that this represents longitivity enough  ::)  ( ;D )






                                                                             In Europe : 15 years car life       x 10 000 miles = 150 000 miles capacity range


                                                                                               80 years human life x 10 000 miles = 800 000 miles capacity range




                                                                            1x  800 000 miles battery pack serves for 5-6  car generations


                                               
                                                                            by 300 miles range pack = 2500-3000 effective 100% DoD charge cycles




       
                                                                           by this charge concept http://www.bticcs.com/ or similar "algorythmic charge concepts"


                                                                           ( Oldie but Goldie Reply #19 shown charge alternatives )
                                                                     
                                                                           " Articles and Publication "


                       CCS a New Technology for the Automatic Charge Controle of Rechargeable Batteries

                       CCS ein neues Ladeverfahren zum automatischen Laden von Akkus
                                                       

                       citation :



                                                                                                         
                       3. Cost & Energy Impact:


• For NC batteries, per example, manufacturers are quoting 500 to 1,000 charge cycles.


In real life most of these batteries have just a life of 100 cycles and often fail in much shorter time.


 As CCS is proving, much of it is the inadequate charging process, that cuts a battery life short.


                                                 With CCS a battery life of 5000 charge cycles can be reached.




                                                                         
Taking this information with precaution ( peak/maximal and average performance !) and as comparison benchmark for own experiments and experience ! 

And by other battery kind as given NC example !













1 KWh battery capacity as solely car energy storage and 1 000 000 miles capacity servicelife


depends


a. vehicle weight , average speed


                                                             nonstop delivery and use


b. the Tanaka Saburo inverter system effect or Dr. Pavel Imris,CSc.  double battery/cap-generator charge system

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Re: The MAD MAX e-car
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2021, 12:32:40 AM »
battery range would be more important than charging cycles : das Eine bedingt das Andere  ;)


Satellites : equipped mostly with nuclear batteries






btw I forgot to listen :


300 miles range x 1 000 000 charge cycles Kilowattlabs superbattery  ::)








12 KWh Reva NGX 37 KW AC motor concept car consume per 100 Km,less 3 KWh brake energy recuperation






                             physical ,by concept, AC e-drive C.O.P. < 1              to           C.O.P. 10 e-drive change ( earth use )




1,2 KWh modified Reva NGX pulsed DC motor concept car consume per 100 km,
                                         here without modification improvement :
                                           less 3 KWh brake energy recuperation :


                                                              surplus 1,8 KWh per 100 Km

                                          with brake energy system improvement : recuperation gain to 6 KWh + per 100 Km



                                                            surplus 5 KWh and more





Physically and experimental we are some steps beyond the market


Probably in Future concept cars technical up-to-date refurbish : https://www.rinspeed.com/de/Concept-Cars  8)  https://www.rinspeed.com/en/

                                                                                            https://esoro.ch/konzeptfahrzeuge/                    https://esoro.ch/en/concept-vehicles/
                               



wmbr


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p.s.:


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=andreja+todorovic&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search


https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=15379

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Re: The MAD MAX e-car
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2021, 11:16:42 PM »
I am in search : for the perfection !  ;)  easy to produce,ecological,economical ; if possible soft-ware-free or free-/share-ware use


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=89&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140320&CC=US&NR=2014078802A1&KC=A1


Tanaka Saburos concept uses an inverter

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190207&CC=JP&NR=2019022271A&KC=A



but this idea/application also :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=102&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20090326&CC=US&NR=2009079393A1&KC=A1


to Garfield Wood his 1969 superelectric car the more modern pendant :


https://esoro.ch/en/portfolio-item/exasis-ein-hauch-von-auto-2007/


but  for calculation we use GarWoods 2x 1,5 hp 90V DC motor concept = 3 hp =  2,25 KW rated power


the installation :


not motor belt wheel


but motor to transmission https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19840807&CC=US&NR=4464095A&KC=A to belt to wheel


the motor physical torque/rev. transformed/transduced by


Halbach/Ronbach magnet array Sankar Pat


or here https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=chad+vandenberg&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search

-50% Vandenberg,-70% Ogino basic factor power/energy savings -  related conventional electric motor - ever wellcomed !




Assumption : 2250 Wh for 50 Km ( or near 30 miles range)         1969 car performance



                = 4500 Wh/100 Km


                 


                   2250 Wh/100 Km reduced by Iida cw rev./ccw rev. motor (instead blades) transmission configuration,conventional electric motor


                   1125 Wh/100 Km  reduced by above motor power saving modification


                   as average




the brake energy recuperation gain,not as high Reva NGX their number to expect( car mass difference) will compensate a great electric motors energy consume part


The effect from the

Self-Charging Generator  US2009079393


the claim/statement " .... [0008] My invention generated several times the power it consumes to operate and does so by an all electric means with no moving parts."


 has to become tested !


Each experimental measured/tested number  over C.O.P. 1 will be wellcomed !




But if only C.O.P.1 ,it does not bother,the e-car need an energy storage ! ::) 




Irgendwann mal /someday in future  : C.O.P. 10 cap-motor + a. Ozkan cycle  b. Saburo cycle c. Imris double battery cap-generator cycle






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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2021, 09:54:56 AM »
At first : this is actually an unimportant solution research/answer finding question !


The most important fact is that urban/city zone vehicles by given 30 Km/h speed maximum only needs ,included brake energy recuperation, well organized 250 Wh electric energy storage for driving the average 60 Km activity per day as also remarked by the "concept cars" design page by esoro/rinspeed !


 ( 15 000 Km per year european range average /365 = ?  per day )


Pulse, 2 = Hz


how is the EMP nuclear defined ?


how explains it ,EMP I and II ,Dr.Pavel Imris,CSc. in his "artificial nuclear atom strike"   
                   


Pulse-effect ?


Bernd Koehler ,solar cell/ fluorescent lamp tube as battery charge concept


DeBuyant.rotative DC  motor-generator battery charge concept


Harold Goldbaum electric generator with shoe-box dimension but Pulse quantity dependent work process KW or MW output


Have we to determinate the nuclear decay in concepts like NANO-BOXX in Pulse numbers ?






The energy storage is not anymore the problem in an "autonomous and intelligent -fixed speed max.- urban traffic drive " world !



Well organized e-trikes and e-bikes less than function priority related heavy cars !




World-wide shows us "freaks,developper,enthusiasts" over youtube and other video channels what with conventional equipment is possible,what with
the best known solution will become possible ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf31fQJVWOU    rated 750 W power  electric drive ,by 30 Km/h max. energy consume in average ?

                                                                             after specific drive improvement ?




Ex-SIEMENS Dr.Wolfgang Volkrodt publication :        rated 100 W bike to electric bike modification


                                                                           with modern 2021 equipment rated power/effective energy consume per 100 Km/per day ?






                    Does he not correct EE geral opinions in this paper ?

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=17&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19860717&CC=DE&NR=3501076A1&KC=A1

http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3501076&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en


Beginning with that difference :




According to theories customary up to now, 25 kW losses would have to occur in the aforementioned ferrite magnetic core. This contradicts practical experience.
[0004]

The energy requirement for a magnetizing reversal pulse is around 25 mWs when using a magnetizing coil with low resistance as a single-start secondary winding of a pulse magnetizing transformer. 10,000 pulses per second therefore require a power supply of 0.25 kW,


                                             


   i.e. one hundredth of the hysteresis losses that are allegedly caused by this.









How many scientists/researcher/inventors are citing these points in their disclosure :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/citingDocuments?CC=DE&NR=3501076A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19860717&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP



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Re: The MAD MAX e-car
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2021, 12:37:04 PM »
https://jornaldascaldas.com/inventor-caldense-aperfeicoa-carro-movido-a-energia-eolica 2010

weight ?


http://omni.mcn.org/ElectriLiteB/


the pedal generator : 600 W rated generator !?


normally a pedal generator  in the 200 W range : https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/how-to/a10245/pedal-power-how-to-build-a-bike-generator-16627209/


https://www.google.com/search?sa=X&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&q=How+much+electricity+can+I+generate+on+a+bike%3F&ved=2ahUKEwjPwqqk1pTyAhVXEWMBHehPAfMQzmd6BAgMEAU&biw=1366&bih=605


a typical human(m./f. ) pedals in average 75 W per hour with an electric generator


improveable to 180 W/h by modern and efficient generator


180 W per hour pedalling energy are sufficient for Sinclairs C5 with Li Yngs transmission system to reach ? Km*h speed ?




assumption :     300 W needs rated      30 W electric micro-motors power      ? 20 Km/h


                   2X 300 W needs rated 2X 30 W electric micro-motors power      ? 30 Km/h


                   3X 300 W needs rated 3X 30 W electric micro-motors power      ? 40 Km/h




120 W electric power input ( rated fan motor power ?)  :


https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=9318






90 W input with PAX Scientific impeller ?


45 W with impeller and magnet array electric motor ?


output ?


output by applying Tudor-Frunzi or Kango Iida or Kumar or Akio Hara generator ? the generator coils with David Yurth coating ?





old commuter power/weight/speed  ratio  ( Volt ! )


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurgel_Itaipu


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citicar


GarWoods superelectric car    2x 1,5 hp


rated 3 KW ~ peak 6-7 KW ,average energy consume from rated drive power ?


by now less battery weight (2021 standart)



2020 Building construction standarts      NEARLY ZERO ENERGY 20 Wp PE /sqm and NET ZERO ENERGY      here primary power per sqm


                                                      equalizing



2021 Car       construction standarts      NEARLY ZERO ENERGY  10 Wh/km  and NET ZERO ENERGY           here primary energy per Km



BIO-EUGENICS


                                               cat and mouse, old cat and fat mouse 

2000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvh-ieuM8yg  Erotics and the game (form,colors,provoke,attraction/repulsion)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpbHdIrtpNo  Lolita and Eros

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHqGIe8AZ1g  12  years ?


Bio-clock , cell regenration cycles (-Countdown)  to MENO-PAUSE "Wechseljahre" :       bioregenerative Pré-Mors Stadium

2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq8uO6swsIc    Anymore "Lolita" !




maskuline/male  Wechseljahre/menopause idem bioregenerative Pré-Mors Stadium


                                                                     Eros-Choreography
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV7G5aWy3vc  from the same producer mind : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh4tHpUflDA

                                                                             from


                         UE(ber Vierzig/er)40 = physical Bio-Cycle stand-point  : Pré-Mortale Gesellschaft/society




                        bei einigen Frauen (und Maennern) geht es schneller,die Degeneration :


https://www.n-tv.de/leute/Sylvie-Meis-spricht-ueber-fruehe-Menopause-article22681586.html#:~:text=Wechseljahre%20mit%2031%20Sylvie%20Meis%20spricht%20%C3%BCber%20fr%C3%BChe%20Menopause&text=Im%20Sommer%202009%20erkrankte%20Sylvie,von%2031%20Jahren%20an%20Brustkrebs.&text=Damals%20habe%20sie%20eine%20Hormontherapie,das%20die%20Wechseljahresbeschwerden%20einst%20ausl%C3%B6ste.

https://www.breastcancer.org/treatment/hormonal/serms/tamoxifen


hormone-receptor-positive


Describes cells that have a group of proteins that bind to a specific hormone.
For example, some breast cancer cells have receptors for the hormones estrogen or progesterone. These cells are hormone receptor positive and they need estrogen or progesterone to grow.




bio-cell-cycle and active/passive interference ,hormonal and other factors



                                                                      UE30 8) 


                                Die Bio-(Cell/Zelle-Prozess) Uhr wird langsamer ! Physisch-physiologisch !



 


For total "western" societies as example : https://www.bib.bund.de/DE/Fakten/Fakt/B19-Durchschnittsalter-Bevoelkerung-ab-1871.html


                                       chronical mid-/bioregenerative end-life crisis demography and politics


                                                      undiplomatic,but real view : Bio-Zombie/Untote politics






                                        But : UE100 - UE30 = up to 70 years body-sexus neutral living

                    https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Immer-mehr-Menschen-werden-100-Jahre-alt-article22720665.html

                                                               
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Re: The MAD MAX e-car
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2021, 10:22:04 PM »
I see that Dr.Imris,CSc.  is now "on-line"  ::)  http://pavelimris.com/


and that he had about him/his last invention a newspaper-article,August 2020 :


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.nordkurier.de/uckermark/tesla-chef-soll-mit-uckermaerker-89-die-welt-retten-1740373708.html

Btw.: HATE LIFE is the automatic translation from the village name "Hassleben" https://www.tourismus-uckermark.de/unterwegs/kultur/kulturangebote/anbieter/dorfkirche-hassleben.html

Hmm,


 " Elektrischer Generator "
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20200402&CC=DE&NR=102018007240A1&KC=A1


Event date :2021/04/01
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/inpadoc?CC=DE&NR=102018007240A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20200402&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP




Device for an electric drive for electric vehicles

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20190328&CC=DE&NR=112017003611A5&KC=A5

Event date :2020/01/01

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/inpadoc?CC=DE&NR=112017003611A5&KC=A5&FT=D&ND=3&date=20190328&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP





 :o  https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.freudenberg.com/de/technologien/mobilitaet-transport/ein-starkes-stueck


Nevertheless, you are still working on increasing your reach. What can we expect there?

Prof. Winter: The range is physically limited.


As things stand today, researchers can predict ranges of a maximum of two kilometers per kilogram of battery, which would be a range of 600 km with a battery weight of 300 kg typically used today.
 We are currently at around 700 meters per kilogram. So there is still enormous potential for development that will be available within the next ten years.


10 Wh /Km to 1 Wh/Km electric consume is in development ,by 200 Wh/Kg " .... 300 Kg typically used today . .... "


= 60 000 Wh/300 Kg divided 10 Wh/Km or 1 Wh/Km     = 60 000 Km  - 6 000 Km range

                                                                                         200 Km  -      20 Km range per Kilogram battery

                                                                                 to


                                                                                      60 000 Km - 6 000 Km    range per Kilogram battery



I mean the Bond Bug https://www.motor24.pt/sites/jornal-dos-classicos/o-pequeno-bond-bug-completa-50-anos/828118/
will be a nice ic-engine to electric drive conversion for WR-range experiments

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Re: The MAD MAX e-car
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2021, 05:16:24 AM »
0-Watts @ 0-Hz bliss.

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Re: The MAD MAX e-car
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2021, 11:09:36 AM »
As per the usual Lanka, nice infos / searches here !

Thanks

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Re: The MAD MAX e-car
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2021, 02:57:21 PM »
member Johan_1995 e-drive platform #8 info https://www.thebetterindia.com/212501/bengaluru-startup-log9-electric-vehicle-battery-charging-aluminum-fuel-cell-india-nor41/


review : 






  https://www.log9materials.com/


For city-e-bikes/-trikes probably really usefull !  Performance ! https://www.log9materials.com/two-wheeler.html

                                                                                           https://www.log9materials.com/three-wheeler.html


                                                                                   magnet array motor + Saburo = theoretically 900 Km per charge range 8)

                                                                                   Ferreira cap-coil motor           = applied         900+ Km    per charge range ;)



https://overunity.com/18385/e-drive-platform/         #14  Lavenami improvement http://www.evalbum.com/314