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Author Topic: Everyone will say this craft breaks the laws of physics  (Read 5238 times)

Offline Paul-R

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Re: Everyone will say this craft breaks the laws of physics
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2021, 11:33:09 PM »
Cool, if its a light vehicle and if the turbine were steerable and retractable.
Absolutely. I have in mind a Japanes kei car, e.g. the Suzuli Alto (maybe an oldish Peugeot 107, possibly with a blown engine or gearbox, dead cheap). The turbine would be steerable, might fold flat, or even a Savonius type which involves different maths. It would be good to have ammeters on the turbine cct as well as the motor circuit to get a feel for what is going on.

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Re: Everyone will say this craft breaks the laws of physics
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2021, 01:42:23 AM »
Cool, if its a light vehicle and if the turbine were steerable and retractable.


https://web.archive.org/web/20080305192021/http://rpm2.8k.com/


to


https://web.archive.org/web/20080312062108/http://flywheel.esmartbiz.com/humpwr.htm


EV Performance Analysis


Gross vehicle weight with full load  =  1500 pounds


A graph, of power needed to overcome the sum of rolling friction and aerodynamic drag, at speeds from 0 to 60 mph, for our representative EV.  At 60 mph, rolling friction consumes about 1.5-kw; aero drag about 2.5-kw; and they total about 4-kw.


For example, if we consider a 1000-pound total weight, and select a 40 mph cruising speed, total power needed is ~1-kw (compared to 4-kw for a 1500-pound EV at 60 mph).  PV and sustained pedaling power can sustain ~35 mph without discharging the batteries.
( We see below : edited April 2002,now with 2021 PV conversion efficiencies !?)

                                   https://www.calculateme.com/speed/miles-per-hour/to-kilometers-per-hour/40

                                                                   city legal street speed/velocity max.  !

                                              Attention : flat route versus progressive energy need hill up !








So these presented numbers by inventors are not anymore miraculous :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1


 La consommation moyenne est de l'ordre de IOOO wats heure

ic-engine to urban e-drive modification :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001207&CC=DE&NR=10011074A1&KC=A1


A car with an electric motor (1500 watts, 4000 revolutions / minute) that takes its energy from the power generator (generator with 6000 watts of power) built into the engine compartment and moves it.


                         0-50 Km*h   instead superfast 0-100 Km*h conditioning included












From Kei-cars models I would prefer : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kei_car#/media/File:Daihatsu_Copen_Cero.jpg


But for FE-circuit prototyping cheaper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZYGW4SwXdk to right side 3 KW rated
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHedi8gH1ik similar powered like

 2x 2 hp https://www.mlive.com/auto/2011/07/volt_schmolt_gold_cup_legend_g.html with up to 52 mph






For understanding about recuperation potentials and their conditioning :


https://www.interpatent.de/unsere_innovationen_strom_aus_der_federung_en.html
road profile and vehicle weight and velocity


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regenerative_brake (KERS in F1)
car mass and velocity

the charger/battery suddenly load reaction time ,alternative : hybrid https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/ultrabattery




The 5000 Euros 1000 pounds weight  E-CAR BASIC BENCHMARKER ,developped 2006, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loremo

5000 Euros based by mass production calculation reference : https://www.renault.co.in/cars/renault-kwid.html    4000 Euros/775 Kg

https://www.autoblog.com/2006/02/27/loremo-debuts-150-mpg-concept-car-in-geneva/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAdAGMrH5DKNI-7qY_sQ6AVWCMH2Ib-K7qT9IpyCP-GaiYBx3DhdwgJOYKsmBhjcLKRo8AHOSZrF-r577vyG_56v_SaCmI1pjkN4u2IVqHkWU2N12OelonclN357k9KvAV1kBas94SNldSa5oWFeVRxcWQVJPIiIcEyVXiX5qA6E


             The LS is powered by a 20 hp, 2-cylinder turbodiesel, while the GT gets a 50 hp, 3-cylinder unit.


 https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1




An electric motor of I ch(cheval/horse) at 6000 revolutions per minute, i.e. 100 revolutions per second, multiplied by a ratio of I / 50, has

an instantaneous torque force, at 2 revolutions per second at the shaft, equal to the differential instantaneous torque range or

tual of a 50 hp engine




The torque integral, depending on the device, of a motor of I ch, at displacement speed of the point of application of the

force at 6000 tm, is the same as the torque integral of a 50 hp engine, which is the same power.


                                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X58oEF1dBqg
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.hybrid-autos.info/elektro-fahrzeuge/loremo/loremo-ev-2008.html

                             2006-2021-2026     FUTUR I and II included


the car itself becomes later the e-storage : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiII32bKB2g




                                               e-Loremo rent per month same/similar :


https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1127423_france-s-citro-n-will-rent-its-ami-two-seat-electric-car-for-less-than-23-a-month


               2 shares one : 1/2 monthly price          3 shares 1 : 1/3 monthly price

                                               The 1$ per day rent e-car development !





                                    https://overunity.com/18218/eco-marathon-challenge/




                                   https://overunity.com/16706/car-energy-consume-improvements/15/






                                  https://www.renewableenergyhub.co.uk/blog/wind-powered-cars-a-possibility-or-crackpot-philosophy/


                                  https://www.sites.google.com/site/oisvan/wind-powered-vehicles


Fundamental laws of physics tell us that it is impossible to build a vehicle that propels itself with the power it extracts from its own apparent wind and/or from the rotation of its own wheels.


 But the same laws also tell us that it is possible to build a vehicle that propels itself with the power it extracts from the kinetic energy potential that exists between its apparent wind speed and its ground speed.


 Such a potential exists if and only only if there is external wind. It should be noted that the magnitude of this potential depends on the true wind speed on the ground, independently from the speed and direction of the vehicle. In order to tap into this potential, the energy converting device must simultaneously interact with the air and the ground. When mounted on a moving vehicle, it can interact with the air through a set of rotating airfoils (propeller / turbine), and with the ground through a transmission and the wheels of the vehicle.




The next step : from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r00aB8oG8Q to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHk13Xa8dqI


                                                                      but : 340 000 GB Pounds  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl3oXslewlA


can become better invested  ::)
« Last Edit: July 05, 2021, 12:54:34 PM by lancaIV »