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### Author Topic: Simple and powerful principle  (Read 21343 times)

#### Floor

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##### Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #75 on: February 01, 2021, 04:46:28 AM »
So....

I don't think at all, that we should "give up" on looking at or for over untiy or free energy or
alternative energy designs and so on.

I say let's keep on keepen on !

best wishes to all
floor
ps

#### nix85

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##### Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #76 on: February 14, 2021, 08:46:22 PM »

Where is the overunity?
The gain that you could get by transforming the potential energy of the object when it's lifted to the top, is the same of the energy that you have to spend for refill with the same quantity of water the top of the "tower", before to open the valves and make the system start again.
The object, lifting up in the column of water, make an identical amount of water to go down on the bottom. The water that is going down has a specific weight that is the same,  no, a little more of the object's weight (otherwise the object wouldn't lift). When you close the valves to recover the object in the upper side (and then maybe make it fall to move a generator transforming the Ep in real energy ecc ecc), instead of the object remains an equal amount of air. How do you refill that, without consuming the same quantity of energy?
I hope I am wrong, I really would like to see an overunity sample. So please answer me.
Interesting principle, indeed.
Bye

Wrong, you don't have to refill, only open and close 2 valves. Any weight to any height.

#### forest

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##### Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #77 on: February 14, 2021, 09:52:46 PM »
Right.Open two valves and a little push then the problem might be to fall back this weight to the bottom.

#### nix85

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##### Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #78 on: February 14, 2021, 11:49:15 PM »
Why would that be a problem, once on top you just got to lift it over the pool wall. Small electric motor can do that and could be automated.

#### nix85

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##### Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #79 on: April 17, 2021, 08:50:23 PM »
interesting similar principle with compressed air
as u can see air is injected at the bottom
and immediately cylinders are rotated trapping the air
making em buoyant, at the top air is released

https://youtu.be/7-5qd7bEiqA?t=752

ofc, again, i don't suggest anyone follow this
primitive principle with so many better ones out there

#### nix85

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##### Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #80 on: May 15, 2021, 12:31:54 PM »

#### nix85

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##### Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #81 on: October 28, 2021, 11:50:02 PM »
Interesting video, don't know if it's real, claimed principle is as water falls on the left side air suction pulls water up.

#### lltfdaniel1

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##### Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #82 on: November 01, 2021, 11:38:59 PM »
asymmetrical is key to achieving cop over 1 but efficiency never over 100%

#### nix85

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##### Re: Simple and powerful principle
« Reply #83 on: November 11, 2021, 08:42:19 PM »
Here is what appears to be principle used in the video above, it is not fake neither is it free energy.

I linked at key moment, you can see he filled the bottle, screwed the cap and THEN he poured the water into the container. I think water in the container is exerting pressure on the air in the bottle as it tries to rise up the tube, so air in the bottle is at slightly higher pressure than surrounding. As he opens the vent on the bottom water spills out and i guess now pressure in the bottle drops creating suction and water is sucked from the container, but you can see more water is running out than returning and water level is dropping so not perpetual.

https://youtu.be/WGIOuKrxGrA?t=358