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stivep

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #540 on: July 12, 2022, 02:13:31 PM »
Why would i stop it and let him disinform people.
Do you know nix85  why,
 Ether/ eather was removed from education of every school in the world   since ~1926.  ?
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Monkey prefers banana  instead of cellphone.
Some primitive tribes, can read and even write their holly values about
their gods and banana superiority over cellphone.

Primitive minds in overunity.com are used, by these to whom it matters,
-motivated by money, believes, or fear to becoming a loser.
e.g : -Russian trolls, paid by "oil" or  rejected pseudosientists.


Everything unrecognized and opposed by science  is a trash.
Recognized moderated physics forums removes the trash.
or
they would ask you nix85 to take your "god/s"
and your trash with you, while leaving.
I don't want to act here as trash remover( moderator) but I could.

Wesley.
PS : Constitutional rights to freedom of speech in USA, is not written in constitution of  Canada or Russia, so trash can be removed.

pix

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #541 on: July 12, 2022, 05:37:09 PM »
Guys please stop this  fight  :o

nix85

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #542 on: July 12, 2022, 07:21:50 PM »
Do you know nix85  why,
 Ether/ eather was removed...


Ether was removed from mainstream "science" just like perpetual motion before it...

“Eppur si muove” (“And yet it moves)”.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLS6CmWwu5VGl5al_O94rmKNiuSZs7Loz1

What are we gonna do with these? You said magnet motor is impossible.

Indeed monkey prefers banana over cellphone but the key is,
in reality, cellphone IS the banana. Not that cellphones are bad,
on the contrary, but cellphone using hot electricity and hertzian
waves is indeed like a banana compared to real stuff.

He does not only deny ether and perpetual motion, but also antigravity
yet Hutchison levitated a 32kg (70lbs) lead cannon ball with 75W.

https://youtu.be/hEND8dlUp1Y?t=5398

He denies other stuff too, not even gonna bother going back to list it.

He represents mockery of true science and pole of shame of this forum.

Altho he insists on me being a Russian shill or whatever, ironically, i don't
even think he is a payed shill, i think he is just very ignorant and blind
and stubborn to see beyond his preconceived misconceptions.

He even seems to be under delusion he is a moderator here, again
ironically since it is him who should be moderatED.

In any case, i predicted your dodging rant and further denial.

I am again asking you a simple question, is Trevor James Constable

a liar/hoaxer, if not, how is the rain produced.

Also, are the magnet motors above "fake".

And is Hutchison "fake".

Of course he is not going to answer, but rant/dodge again.

nix85

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #543 on: July 12, 2022, 09:05:10 PM »
Take attention at second half of second video, he explains

and shows how (one) solution to sticky point is making an L shape

that is 90° angle from attracting magnets. Turn the volume up.

stivep

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #544 on: July 13, 2022, 08:40:21 PM »
, is Trevor James Constable
a liar/hoaxer, if not, how is the rain produced.

1925 −2016 native of Wellington, New Zealand, he served 31 years at sea,
UFO writer  with no technical and no scientific education
he didn't even graduate a high school,


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A natural born New Zealander, at 17 years of age Trevor joined with the Union Steam Ship Company
and took to the seas. He then entered the British Merchant Navy and became Radio Officer on the Queen Mary in 1948   
https://thomasbrown.org/trevor-james-constable/



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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_James_Constable
was a UFO writer 
serious flaws in terms of presentation of historical realities.
borrowing from the Nazi propaganda
 traced to//stereotypes about the Soviet Union.
Wilhelm Reich's orgone, UFOs  (fake was used  by Trevor James Constable)
to write in two books, (about) "creatures" // the size of a coin.


In 1991 Constable worked with the local Malaccan government
//created a 'rain-making' technology, which would then alter the  ether or 'chi' of the atmosphere.[7]
claimed that his technology and methods had already been used to fill the Gibraltar Dam in California.[6]
Malaysian government (found ) //evidence that the State government had been cheated.[9] //$3.2 million.
(../) stands for  shortcuts and additions
how is the rain produced
https://greentumble.com/how-is-rain-formed-

Wesley

onepower

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #545 on: July 13, 2022, 08:45:07 PM »
nix85
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Ether was removed from mainstream "science" just like perpetual motion before it...
“Eppur si muove” (“And yet it moves)”.

In many respects it's not a matter of proof or a lack of it if it's never acknowledged. Once many people get a belief in there head there is no amount of proof which could change it. I change my mind daily on many things...but that's another story.

On the Aether, I break the argument down into a few key questions...
1)The Michelson–Morley experiment was an attempt to detect the existence of the luminiferous aether. There argument was that the motion of the Earth through an aether/medium should effect the speed of light in there apparatus. It did not, however we know the speed of light is constant whether the source is moving or not. We also know electric, magnetic and electromagnetic fields do not rotate with the source. As such Michelson–Morley simply verified what we already know, the primary fields are a property of space not the source which created them. Therefore, logically, the experiment did not disprove an Aether it only showed it was flawed and could not detect anything.

2)As well if the notion of a lack of aether/medium is to be valid we would then need to explain how a field change/EM radiation could propagate through empty space. You see it violates the basic premise of physics as cause and effect/natural law and supposes that EM waves can act on themselves or through nothing. As well it discounts the existence of EM waves because the concept of a wave relies on a medium to act as a wave carrier. As such they would have to abandon the whole notion of waves and cause and effect.

As we can see general relativity and any non-aether theory would seem to be a classic case of "The Emperor's New Clothes".  People didn't want to look stupid or be the odd man out so they bought into a fairy tale where "anything is possible".

It's cool, if they want to believe something can be created from nothing, a wave can travel without a wave carrier or act on nothing then free energy is super easy to explain. Free energy is possible for the same reasons they think GR or space time is possible. I mean if they want to throw all logic, reason and common sense out the window then let's go for it, lol.

Regards
AC

stivep

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #546 on: July 13, 2022, 09:21:27 PM »
Therefore, logically, the experiment did not disprove an Aether it only showed it was flawed and could not detect anything.
Regards
AC
Thank you for your comment.
every idea having to be experimentally proven :
empirical knowledge,  is learned through practice; Trial and error.
ether was rejected as   non usable, non-practical and theoretically  inconsistent concept.
Wesley

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #547 on: July 14, 2022, 07:48:37 AM »
stivep
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every idea having to be experimentally proven :
empirical knowledge,  is learned through practice; Trial and error.
ether was rejected as non usable, non-practical and theoretically  inconsistent concept.

That's not entirely correct in my opinion...
It's not that the Aether theory was unusable, unpractical or inconsistent. They just couldn't find an acceptable experiment to verify it's existence at the time.

For example, the Aether theory was eventually replaced with a Dark energy/matter theory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter
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Dark matter is a hypothetical form of matter thought to account for approximately 85% of the matter in the universe. Dark matter is called "dark" because it does not appear to interact with the electromagnetic field, which means it does not absorb, reflect, or emit electromagnetic radiation (like light) and is, therefore, difficult to detect. Various astrophysical observations – including gravitational effects which cannot be explained by currently accepted theories of gravity unless more matter is present than can be seen – imply dark matter's presence.

Sounds familiar doesn't it?, "a medium" pervading all space we know exists through secondary effects. A medium which does not interact directly with EM fields or light. It's also interesting to note the Michelson–Morley experiment wouldn't detect dark energy or matter either yet we know it exists through other measurements.

Then we have Dark Energy, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy
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In physical cosmology and astronomy, dark energy is an unknown form of energy that affects the universe on the largest scales. The first observational evidence for its existence came from measurements of supernovas, which showed that the universe does not expand at a constant rate; rather, the universe's expansion is accelerating.

Apparently the Aether is dead, long live dark matter and energy, which is basically the Aether with a new name.

Regards
AC

stivep

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #548 on: July 15, 2022, 01:37:18 AM »
Michelson–Morley experiment
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Michelson–Morley experiment
DEFINITION an experiment performed in 1887 which attempted to measure the relative motion of the earth and the ether by measuring the speed of light in directions parallel and perpendicular to the earth's motion. The result disproved the existence of the ether, which contradicted Newtonian physics but was explained by Einstein's special theory of relativity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_A._Michelson

First performed in Germany in 1880–81 by the physicist A.A. Michelson,
the test was later refined in 1887 by Michelson and Edward W. Morley in the United States.
attempt to detect the velocity of Earth with respect to the hypothetical luminiferous ether,
a medium in space proposed to carry light waves.
This  seriously discredited the ether theories and ultimately led to the proposal by
Albert Einstein in 1905 that the speed of light is a universal constant.
https://www.britannica.com/science/Michelson-Morley-experiment

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For example, the Aether theory was eventually replaced with a
Dark energy
/matter theory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter
link quoted by says :
Dark matter , not to be confused with , Dark energy,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter

comment:

1. Dark matter and dark energy there are two different "animals."
So I'm confused in to, what properties similarity you wanted to compare with?
2. think about it like about competition:
– problem  was explained by E = mC squared

Wesley

alan

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pix

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #550 on: July 15, 2022, 03:37:41 PM »
And topic succesfully derailed to exotic BS.
Have a fun guys.

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #551 on: July 15, 2022, 07:22:27 PM »
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Michelson–Morley experiment
DEFINITION an experiment performed in 1887 which attempted to measure the relative motion of the earth and the ether by measuring the speed of light in directions parallel and perpendicular to the earth's motion. The result disproved the existence of the ether, which contradicted Newtonian physics but was explained by Einstein's special theory of relativity.

I found the experiment kind of comical for various reasons which seems to defy all logic and reason...

1)If the speed of light is constant and does not change velocity with a moving source then why would Michelson–Morley think the speed of light would change in there experiment?. As well why would they think light would interact with the Aether?.

2)As supposed scientists Michelson–Morley displayed gross incompetence in there false conclusion. Any credible scientist would have come to the conclusion that the Aether does not interact with light or EM waves similar to Dark Energy/Matter. In fact that's all they did prove and nothing more should have been implied.

3)The experiment was little more than cargo cult science based on a false premise to show a preconceived conclusion. This is why we need to be very careful as to what we think were seeing. An absence of proof in one flawed experiment is not proof of absence, that's absurd and amateur in my opinion. 

This is the same kind of twisted logic and false cause fallacies many in this thread are using. They think a reactive current can do work, not understanding that a reactive current does no work while an active one does. They have also completely ignored the forces/properties which caused the motion and produced the supposed current in the first place. I mean, if they wanted to debate a current that can do work they should have called the thread "active currents".

This thread is going nowhere so I will give you a clue...
Obviously, reactive currents are not the answer because they are simply involved in storing energy as a magnetic field just like capacitors store energy as an electric field. Logically neither kind of current, reactive or active, matters all that much as both are simply energy carriers. What we are concerned with is how much work is involved to produce an active current versus how much work it can do. So either we do less work to produce the same current or the current does more work than expected before it dissipates.

Regards
AC





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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #552 on: July 16, 2022, 08:23:48 AM »
Regarding the increase in vibration when adding a permanent magnet.
I finally found this video on my computer!

alan

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #553 on: July 16, 2022, 02:42:42 PM »
Induction of opposing compressed fields 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCClYZp9Yls

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #554 on: July 16, 2022, 04:03:02 PM »
Alan
Instead of your slow drip drip drip of infomercials
Perhaps grab a moderated board and teach the builders
Here something no one has seen ( after decade or more of drips)


As yet not one of these claims of magnet FE or ?POC etc
Has shown the ability to survive scrutiny or proper
Vetting !


If there is truly a gain mechanism
PLEASE
Share it …
Thousands have tried this path
And not one verification of proof
Many unsuccessful attempts shared  !


But not one true gain mechanism ever replicated
And shared


Even recent posts here in this forum  by previous members of that group… who spent
Years! ( they referred to themselves as elite members ( or inside close nit group ?)
Have since left and started more tolerant group?

Yes it’s true “they” are also hungry to find FE and hopefully
they also work to share open source … if any discovery is found !

Grab a moderated builders board and post a verifiable gain for replication!


Just one true gain mechanism will do !


That the many open source builders reading here can
Reproduce and share on their bench !


Respectfully
Chet K
Edit
For comment below
Many reading here have done POC 1.7 when first
Shared years ago
Then the error was found ( claimants scope setting error)


Since then all manner of accusations… and never shown independently to work!


I will find a good reference when i have time
IMO
Better you should teach !!


And save time
Edit again
I see your comment on marathon man below
He struggled here for years with an attempt !
Never shared a success that I am aware of!