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stivep

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #495 on: July 07, 2022, 06:47:32 PM »
I do not agree.
The door to collect some energy into useable form lies in resonance. This is my opinion.
Cheers,
Pix
You have the right to disagree.
can you provide me with the link to revelations?
Tesla himself said that we should thank God that we have oscillations.
God is not recognized by physics, but Albert Einstein is more respected in this area.
– so can you provide me with more respectable source,
individual, entity?
I went through few Strebkov patents. For sure he is not a dumb man.
I agree with you 100%.
however:

23.https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2517378C1/enResonance
power amplifier Russian:
may or may not be valuable, - needs to be evaluated as everything that is Russian origin.
Concept known from American magnetic amplifiers from 50ties.
Russians may just deform original design and submit it as their own.
the best joke of "some Russians"  is : "I'm innocent"
https://youtu.be/l4XTAwu668M?t=108  (in russian)
English subtitles . ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER


 :)
Wesley.


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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #496 on: July 07, 2022, 07:38:40 PM »
You have the right to disagree.
can you provide me with the link to revelations?God is not recognized by physics, but Albert Einstein is more respected in this area.
– so can you provide me with more respectable source,
individual, entity?I agree with you 100%.
however:
 :)
Wesley.
Here we go again, ping-pong play on the words.
1.Tesla is recognized scientist, and his famous quote is attached below.
2. Do not underestimate russian scientists. It is sign of arrogance. Some of them are crooks, some of them are not.
3.You didn't respond regarding Xiaodong Liu papers on energy multiplication in retarded resonance. Is he also crook? From where is coming energy gain described in 2 attached papers below this message?
4.Any comments on Strebkov patent from my previous post? COP in patent example is 5,4.  1kW in- 5,4kW out at 50Hz. See attached below.


Cheers,
Pix

stivep

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #497 on: July 07, 2022, 08:08:32 PM »

in regards to link In PDF:
The Effect of Retarded Phase Factor in
Single Wire Power Transmission
Xiaodong Liu1*, Qichang Liang1, Yu Liang2
1. Department of Nuclear Physics, China Institute of Atomic Energy, P.O. Box
275(10), Beijing 102413, China
2. Pangeo Corporation, 2005 Black Acre Dr., Oldcastle ON, N0R 1L0, Canada
* Email: liuxiaod@gmail.com


 link is located at the very bottom of your post
 Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL  « Reply #494 on: Today at 10:25:27 AM »_________________________________________________________

in that article of that Chinese scientific facility there are some quotes:
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Nikola Tesla invented the technology of single wire power transmission in 1897
Tesla patent listed in .1
at the bottom of mentioned PDF (please download it)

Here is a quote from the patent 
Patent No. 593,138, dated November 2, 1897. :
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that is to say, the inner or center end of what corresponds to the secondary of the first will be connected to line and the other end to earth
https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-593138-electrical-transformer
by that your statement  is incorrect.
Patent of Tesla, states about "two wire system", were the EARTH serve a reactive – capacitive in nature
element. so  yes – there is physically only one wire
it is explained in point number 2.

explanation:
1. in electric systems of commercial electricity –single wire transmission
stands for two wire system were EARTH is one of the wires.–earth return system.
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The single-wire transmission line is not the same as the single-wire earth return system

2. Tesla's non-return wire – one wire system ( "transmission line" ) a return circuit by virtue of the load's self-capacitance and parasitic capacitance.[3][4]
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were the EARTH serve a reactive – capacitive in nature
element.



3. the true single wire transmission line that does not require any ground.
It operates based on electromagnetic wave traveling  in the two dimensional interface 
(form of waveguide)  between a wire and
it's dielectric coating –
 

1899, Arnold Sommerfeld  Single cylindrical conductor (wire) to propagate radio frequency energy as a surface wave.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_transmission_line
that system was later improved by Goubau line
I
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n 1950 Georg Goubau revisited Sommerfeld's discovery of a surface wave mode along a wire, but with the intent of increasing its practicality.[8]


3a.E-Line
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E-Line From 2003 through 2008 patents were filed for a system using Sommerfeld's original bare (uncoated) wire, but employing a launcher similar to that developed by Goubau.[12][13] It was promoted under the name "E-Line" through 2009.[14]
U.S. Patent 7,009,471, "Method and apparatus for launching a surfacewave onto a single conductor transmission line using a slotted flared cone". Glenn E. Elmore
 U.S. Patent 7,567,154, " Surface wave transmission system over a single conductor having E-fields terminating along the conductor  " Glenn E. Elmore
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conclusion:
those three systems are loosely related three different systems.
Those systems do not contain , structural elements using
different principles of operation.

please keep in mind to avoid problems with interpretation.

Wesley

stivep

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #498 on: July 07, 2022, 08:39:34 PM »
this post is continuation of my post from above.
Importance of  point 3:
1899, Arnold Sommerfeld and 1950 Georg Goubau revisit to Sommerfeld's discovery of a surface wave mode along a wire,
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Goubau
was the base for Dr. James Corum patents
http://teslasociety.com/corum.htm 
https://patents.justia.com/inventor/james-f-corum

causing my work published here:
Topics  targeting  very much specified subject matter.
one is in English another in Russian:
1.https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560346/#msg5603462.
https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg560156/#msg560156


but for easiness start to read from here:
Re: Wesley's  Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum 
« Reply #3385 on: September 25, 2021, 05:47:03 PM »
generally my work is about extracting energy from Schumann waveguide
using intellectual art listed in this and previous post with addition of my own
released to you voluntarily by me.

you may use it or lose it it's your choice


Wesley

pix

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #499 on: July 07, 2022, 08:45:23 PM »
As usual that topic derailed, my questions are covered by tons of loosely related info.
In fact, I didn't expected a simple  and short reply related to my two last posts.
I am going to put into test Strebkov setup with 3 trafo and series resonance.
Need to collect more capacitors .


Cheers,
Pix



stivep

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #500 on: July 07, 2022, 09:56:06 PM »
1.Tesla is recognized scientist, and his famous quote is attached below.
2. Do not underestimate russian scientists. It is sign of arrogance. Some of them are crooks, some of them are not.
3.You didn't respond regarding Xiaodong Liu papers on energy multiplication in retarded resonance.
4.Any comments on Strebkov patent from my previous post? COP in patent example is 5,4.  1kW in- 5,4kW out at 50Hz. See attached below.
Cheers,
Pix
ad1.
You are absolutely right, however some technical  expressions  from past century(e.g the word: retarded) are often improperly interpreted. That is why I explained some more
in regards to Tesla patent and to Chinese paper.



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ad2.

2. Do not underestimate russian scientists. It is sign of arrogance.

You are absolutely right. With all do respect to Russian nation,
There is a value in Russian science that is unfortunately
covered with all negatives.
this is United States of America not Russia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
for shopping we don't go to Siberia supermarket
we go to nearest New York quality quantity and value.!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some of them are crooks, some of them are not.
are you going to argue who is lesser of the crook and who is not or totally not?
If somebody is shitting all around, he's unlikely to be honored
by civilized Western word of scientific values!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how many scientists or scientists to be, were killed in Ukraine for 4.5 months by Russians. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ?
around 150,000 of civilians - Ukrainians were killed, tortured, cut fingers, shot at the back of his /her head.
is it the Russian culture you're talking about?
is that the Russian value you talking about?
and it wasn't the first time, my grandpa escaped Katyn, hiding in the hole full of human excrement's
while Russian was shitting on him;
now think about that Russian shooting in the back of the head 22,000 people one by one and often two of them to save on bullets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
and I escaped alive with Tariel Kapanadze in 2011.
do you have courage to respond to that?
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ad3.
Xiaodong Liu papers stands about:
-Single Wire Power Transmission not power multiplication.
–retarded phase factor that also exists in single wire
that relates link .2" quote:
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In retarded resonance, the energy extracted from the source is determined by the retarded phase on the route.
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Conclusion
In a single wire power transmission system, the current and voltage propagate along the
wire via the wave of electric density. The effective resistance of load is negative when the
wire length is ¼ of wavelength. In this case, the loading current acts like a driving source
to charge the transmitter. This technology can be used in the field of electric power
generation.

there is no single word in the paper standing about power multiplication.
it only says:
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The effective resistance of load seen
from the power source is negative. In this case, the phase of I1(t) is inverted relative to the
phase of U1(t) and the electric power would flow into instead of out of the source.

but all of it is done locally and at the expense of external power supply.

note:
only in number 3 it says about energy multiplication.
I was not commenting that link yet.

so all of the above is related to link .2
listed by you.
below you have all four links from the article.

References
[1] Nikola Tesla, US Patent No. 593138 (1897)
[2] Xiaodong Liu, Qichang Liang, Yu Liang, The Retarded Phase Factor in Wireless
Power Transmission, July 2011, http://www.vixra.org/abs/1107.0029
[3] Qichang Liang, Yu Liang, Xiaodong Liu, Energy Multiplier in Retarded Resonance,
April 2011, http://www.vixra.org/pdf/1104.0052v1.pdf
[4] Qichang Liang, Yu Liang, Xiaodong Liu, The Retarded Energy Transmission in
Remote Resonance, Sciencepaper Online, No. 200908-176, August 2009,
http://www.paper.edu.cn/index.php/default/releasepaper/downPaper/200908-176

ad4.
I didn't analyze and I don't have yet comments on Strebkov patent.

I need to find some time to respond to:
– [3] Qichang Liang, Yu Liang, Xiaodong Liu, Energy Multiplier in Retarded Resonance,
April 2011, http://www.vixra.org/pdf/1104.0052v1.pdf
I've seen this link for the first time only 10 minutes ago.
and
–https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2517378C1/enResonance

Wesley
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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #501 on: July 07, 2022, 11:23:05 PM »
Excuse me asking but are you talking about transverse waves or longitudinal (which isn't a wave more a shove or a pull )or one to the other and back ?

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stivep

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #502 on: July 08, 2022, 01:13:00 AM »
Excuse me asking but are you talking about transverse waves or longitudinal (which isn't a wave more a shove or a pull )or one to the other and back ?
Sil
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Transverse and longitudinal are two different types of waves. The main difference between transverse and longitudinal waves is that in transverse waves, oscillations occur perpendicular to the direction of propagation of the wave, whereas in longitudinal waves, oscillations occur parallel to the direction of propagation of the wave.
https://pediaa.com/difference-between-transverse-and-longitudinal-waves/
electromagnetic waves are transverse waves and I'm talking about transverse waves only.
Wesley

alan

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #503 on: July 08, 2022, 11:58:50 AM »
What effects does parallel LC resonance (sinusoidal) have on coupled inductors?

stivep

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #504 on: July 08, 2022, 06:55:21 PM »
ad1.
do you have courage to respond to that?
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References
[1] Nikola Tesla, US Patent No. 593138 (1897)
[2] Xiaodong Liu, Qichang Liang, Yu Liang, The Retarded Phase Factor in Wireless
Power Transmission, July 2011, http://www.vixra.org/abs/1107.0029
[3] Qichang Liang, Yu Liang, Xiaodong Liu, Energy Multiplier in Retarded Resonance,
April 2011, http://www.vixra.org/pdf/1104.0052v1.pdf
[4] Qichang Liang, Yu Liang, Xiaodong Liu, The Retarded Energy Transmission in
Remote Resonance, Sciencepaper Online, No. 200908-176, August 2009,
http://www.paper.edu.cn/index.php/default/releasepaper/downPaper/200908-176

ad4.
I didn't analyze and I don't have yet comments on Strebkov patent.

I need to find some time to respond to:
– [3] Qichang Liang, Yu Liang, Xiaodong Liu, Energy Multiplier in Retarded Resonance,
April 2011, http://www.vixra.org/pdf/1104.0052v1.pdf
I've seen this link for the first time only 10 minutes ago.
and
–https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2517378C1/enResonance

Wesley

.1 I am still expecting the response from you in regards to comment about Russian science and Russian values.
.2 I do thank you very much for your contribution about Chinese papers.
.3 thanks to your contribution I was able to get to a mine of extremely valuable papers.

Explanation:
Schumann frequency is the key to energy for free FE.
Frequency from 7 Hz to 17 kHz is where the access to that energy is.
I'm moving my activity to one of three of  my topics simply because it is too important,
and may become important to some Russian trolls.
I gladly invite you and anybody else there.
Wesley


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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #505 on: July 08, 2022, 08:34:17 PM »
What effects does parallel LC resonance (sinusoidal) have on coupled inductors?
Alan are you talking about a ladder net work ? with the coils as the rungs
and the capacitors as running the length in series or the reverse ?

Sil

stivep

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #506 on: July 09, 2022, 05:30:31 PM »
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stivep

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #507 on: July 09, 2022, 05:55:29 PM »
Here we go again, ping-pong play on the words.
2. Do not underestimate russian scientists. It is sign of arrogance.
Some of them are crooks, some of them are not.
talking about your own value,
you run like a chicken with its head cut off .
for the third time being asked to respond
to my comment here:
 Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL  « Reply #500 on: July 07, 2022, 09:56:06 PM »
__________________________________________________________________

3.You didn't respond regarding Xiaodong Liu papers on energy multiplication in retarded resonance.
Is he also crook?
From where is coming energy gain described in 2 attached papers below this message?
4.Any comments on Strebkov patent from my previous post? COP in patent example is 5,4.  1kW in- 5,4kW out at 50Hz. See attached below.
Cheers,
Pix

evaluating, and socially elevating those articles  takes time that in here in New York is a value:
I can donate my time and knowledge, and provide you with answers but I need to know
that I'm not talking to thin air with bunch of football fans bored with physics,
who are feeling weary and impatient because they are unoccupied or  have lacks interest in their current activity.
Music, painting, poetry, is written to the public and emotional reward (plus more) is  there, - from public response.

so I'll act for free but need your response.
explanation for typical Russian  "Show Me the Money!" is:

You have nobody to answer your question for free!!!!
you want money?  - I can show you where the money is!!!!!!
Check out our freaking talk to me selection
or stay in your Russian deep s.


I need interaction  noted– "my time is not wasted!!!"
 :)
Wesley

stivep

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #508 on: July 09, 2022, 08:36:16 PM »
 Re: Wesley's  Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum  « Reply #3728 on: Today at 08:09:43 PM »

Wesley

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #509 on: July 10, 2022, 07:52:51 PM »
Long story short my comp went up in smoke the other day literally, second hand mini-pc with passive cooling, this summer hotness + mains voltage varied that day. Ordered another second hand one then realized it has no HDMI then ordered an adapter then realized it does not recognize my hard disks, then finally had to get a new one.

I see stivep did not waste time to deceive and distract, business as usual. :)

ether/ eather BS
Overunity
Perpetual motion
all of it doesn't exist and is likely  spread by some government sponsored Russian trolls domain

or by nix85

There is ether, literally so, Earth is surrounded by this substance and it's density decreases as we go farther into space. And it's of multiple kinds, one kind is particularly responsible for converting sun's odic rays into hertzian light. ETC

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The device  on the video was not grounded, nor a device from other video.

However there is something apart from B.S of Dr "whoever"
This frequency  9,574 Hz is in the range of comfortable frequencies for Dr James Corum and my own  energy extraction from Schumann waveguide.

Q:So how he did it?
A:Magician knows his tricks.

Wesley

Ph, you "know" if it was not grounded. Stop pushing for your hertzian disinfo agenda. As Tesla himself said, "i don't work with hertzian waves", which are an undesirable waste, we are after the night side forces which might be termed dark energy in conventional terminology, the negative gravity and related streams, there is a whole spectrum of these non-hertzian waves.

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Physics doesn't recognize God.

True physics stems from knowledge of God and of One Substance / One Force. Approaching from unity perspective is the key to Nature's penetralia.

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Unfortunately according to current physics,not much of this exotic BS is possible:
Overunity-  not possible
Perpetual motion machine -not possible
ether/ eather - doesn't exist
time travel, - not possible
antigravity - not possible
Wesley

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Magnets can do free work,
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry magnet cannot work -at all

Disinfo.

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did you notice that nix85 was Last Active: June 27, 2022, 08:12:28 PM.
He is likely  from émigrés of Russian family - with good English from St. John's Newfoundland Labrador Canada region.
it looks like Putin didn't deliver  money on time (joke).

Am not Russian neither do i speak Russian (except some (root) words considering it is also a Slavic tongue). Seems Putin is sending regular checks to New York (joke?)

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Why can’t magnetism be used as a source of energy?

It can and it is all the time. Magnet is but a water tap for the etheric streams of certain order and can be tapped as a source of energy as they are in so many OU devices.

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I will not waste your time, by redirecting your attention into some Russian B.S of desinformation.

You been promoting Russain FE videos for 10+ years, all those videos are being watched right now on your youtube channel, but you will not bla bla... If it's real it's not waste of time, i linked few Russian videos cause they are real, saying that this is disinformation is itself the worst kind of disinformation. Nothing new.

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Schumann frequency is the key to energy for free FE.
Frequency from 7 Hz to 17 kHz is where the access to that energy is.

Phhh. No frequency range is the key and big gains can happen at any frequency, as low as 50Hz or even below or as high as terahertz and beyond. This has NOTHING to do with Schuman, Hans Coler determined frequency of ferromagnetism at 180KHz, Don Smith and many others worked above and below it. It's not about any special frequency as much as it is about resonance and particular configurations of connecting things.

If you want a "special frequency" then think of 5-6KHz,
Thomas Moray, Edwin Gray and Steven Mark used it.
But again, there is no special frequency since it can work at any
as well as it can not work at any.
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