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Offline nix85

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #375 on: June 11, 2022, 09:39:36 PM »
EDIT:

it seemed there is different current on two wires input into MOT
but it turns out these clamp meters, maybe cause they are
relatively cheap Chinese ones, are direction dependent,
to get accurate value, you have to flip it when measuring
two wires in which current is in different direction.

In other words if first wire is coming into the clamp from
above on the left side, then to measure other wire which
is parallel to it, it must enter the clamp from below on the
left side.

Otherwise readings are totally wrong.

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #376 on: June 23, 2022, 10:04:40 PM »
Did everyone here just give up, we need to share experiences, keep it up if we are
to succeed. I been working with two MOTs lately, resonating them, i bought 45uF
and 16uF caps which turned out to be 41.3uF and 14.7uF, the smaller one was
supposed to be for Don replica but i might as well use it for this.

My first idea was resonate the primary at 50Hz and two secondaries in series also.
I managed to resonate the secondaries with circa 90nF, but i could not directly
measure primary resonance on soundcard scope (or any scope). The problem is
inductance of the secondaries is so much larger, namely 57.1H combined while
primaries are only 290mH and 351mH that it totally overrides the primary, no
matter if primary is with or without caps, when i touch it with 1.5V batter i always
see the secondary resonating, it overpowers it with it's huge inductance.
So i had to use the calculator which is not exactly precise, it predicts lower
resonant frequency that it really is.

Also when secondary is closed in series with another secondary or by itself, with caps
or not, it drops primary's inductance from 290mH to 218mH. I got this cheap
LC meter which is pretty good

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324369430072

However, i did not manage to get current draw down with caps on the primary which
should make it resonate around 50Hz and secondaries in series definitely resonating
at 50Hz, current draw is about the same, around 2A.

I tried connecting 5 200W lightbulbs in series between resonating secondaries and
metal water pipe in the bathroom that goes underground of course. Nothing.

Strange thing however happened when i shorted one of the secondaries, current draw
dropped to 1.4A.

I also tried connecting those 5 bulbs directly between two secondaries, nothing, second
secondary steals all the voltage so i tried with just one MOT, they light very brightly
but i did not manage to get current draw below 5A which is little over 1kW.

I have now put 5 same bulbs in parallel, i will rather try connecting them to primary(ies) and trying to resonate. Problem is i don't know how much of the
current draw is active or reactive, waiting for power meter to arrive.

This idea is an old one from Dan Combine and bolt, to light a big bulb with reactive power.

I am also thinking combining this with bifilar-scalar primary from Don replica.

If more of us focus on this it will be better for all, to share experiences.


Offline stivep

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #377 on: June 23, 2022, 11:23:41 PM »
That scheme is from Alexander Mikhalych who apparently
replicated Stepanov.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu2Rbjr80RI
He says basically the same things that are written in the article
https://jeraff.ru/en/generator-transformer-with-resonant-winding-resonance-transformer-energy-from-ether/

Stepanov, contacted me, prior to his trip to Hamburg. I refused his offer.
In Hamburg Stepanov met Arthur German investor.
German investor, requested from Stepanov, Akula's performance.
 in order to not lose Arthur, -Stepanov hired Tiger to examine  Akula's device.
After that, German investor, visited  Akula
After that Stepanov with  Akula and  Tiger landed in Germany.
over a year later all of them returned home.

so  Alexander Mikhalych couldn't
replicate Stepanov,
as Stepanov was rejected by Arthur the German investor due to the lack of performance.
and let's say, I know who Arthur is.


–by that, "this memo:"
https://jeraff.ru/en/generator-transformer-with-resonant-winding-resonance-transformer-energy-from-ether/
from this video of likely sponsored by Russian propaganda Global Wave YouTube channel
is likely another "Russian Revelation"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu2Rbjr80RI

by the way:
Whampamp.com is a redirecting untrusted website. ( you'll see it after you try to escape from "this memo" with left arrow)
so you don't have to search: How to Remove Whampamp.com - SecuredStatus
I recommend to clean the cookie from:
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jeraff.ru


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Wesley, you mean guy who claimed that power cannot be amplified in RLC tank,
in this very thread few pages back. Need i say more.
RLC filter as amplifier? - Electrical Engineering Stack …https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/239852
Quote
In other words you can't get power amplification.
but
It can amplify the voltage (near to the resonant frequency) at the expense of load current.
so In other words you can't get power amplification.
 :)
Wesley

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #378 on: June 23, 2022, 11:53:46 PM »
I understood what you said and answered that he himself is not reliable.
so if I am not reliable than please prove me wrong
The statement is  :
RLC filter as amplifier? - Electrical Engineering Stack …https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/239852but
 you can't get power amplification from RLC
 :)
try our best my friend, but keep in mind:
no matter what you say about RLC power amplification that is a complete nonsense.
You will also be ask to explain what that extra amplified  power comes from?
what is that power origin?

the law of conservation of energy:
energy cannot be created nor destroyed.


Wesley

Offline nix85

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #379 on: June 24, 2022, 12:05:25 AM »
...
so  Alexander Mikhalych couldn't
replicate Stepanov,
as Stepanov was rejected by Arthur the German investor due to the lack of performance.
and let's say, I know who Arthur is.

So you are calling Stepanov and Mikhalych liars, just because of some German guy
you supposedly know. I would disagree. For a simple reason what they claim has been
confirmed so many times by unrelated people world over number of which have been
shared here.

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RLC filter as amplifier? - Electrical Engineering Stack …https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/239852but
It can amplify the voltage (near to the resonant frequency) at the expense of load current.
so In other words you can't get power amplification.
 :)
Wesley

Really, again, i really expected more from someone who's been in this for so long.
I linked that article or referred to it when i first spoke of this conventional stance
on this issue. Voltage amplification at expense of current and vice versa.

We are not interested in series resonance cause that is a short circuit.

Again, if there can be no power amplification, how come this guy
amplifies the power to 2.34kW reactive with 105W input.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVgp-gOBqsg

Or 3.5kw reactive with 200W input.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sfOKPIi6CM

So it is definitely possible to amplify power, you may argue if that power
is usable. Indeed, usually loading the resonant tank will kill the resonance
and increase power draw. But just few posts ago i linked the same guy
from first example (2.34kW) looping it, i copy paste.

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Guy i shared before who pumps 2.34kW in his big trans with 105W input.

Here he is looping it with UPS battery, battery starts at 13.69V.

Then he powers 280W of lights + charges the batter to 14.3V.

Reactive power is 1163W here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYWgcRB73bw

So we see it is not only possible to amplify power in RLC tank,
but also loop it and draw excess energy from it.


Offline nix85

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #380 on: June 24, 2022, 12:16:20 AM »
Another old, unknown success video, this guy is apparently doubling the power
using three coils on same half core, two coils on the sides are in opposition, screams
scalar.

Subtitles - auto translate are your friend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df48bstPN14

Offline stivep

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #381 on: June 24, 2022, 12:19:37 AM »
please present the  answer a few questions:
– what is that extra energy coming from?
– Please provide an article scientifically sound that supports your claim, can you?
– can you prove that this article has a false statement and why?
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/239852
 :)

Wesley

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #382 on: June 24, 2022, 12:42:03 AM »
Let's keep it clear.

No one really cares about the source as long as we can access it. Earth is being
showered by incredible amount of (non-herzian) energy constantly, small part of it
gets slowed down into light and heat in the atmosphere, small part we feel as gravity,
while great majority of it simply passes through Earth. Some of it gets converted into
light by certain minerals at great depths where greenish glow with no apparent source
is eternal, but that is another subject. Call it neutrions or tachyons, names matter now.
Fact is we are immersed in inexhaustible subtle streams which just need to be tapped.

What matters is that it's possible to pump up kilowatts of reactive power with ~100W input.

Are you denying this? Cause proof is strong that this is the case.

Obviously high reactive power stirs up the ether and then part of the energy can be
tapped, how much depends. In the example above only about 1/3 of reactive power
is used, in this example, which is much much better, input is down to 8-9W, while
1100W is taken from Earth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3dc-5tPc90

BTW i commented on this guy's video and sent him an email, he responds not.
I saw his comments on other Russian overunity videos, what i learned is that he's
been in it for more than 12 years and just a year before this success
after another guy wrote it's best to give up he said he felt the same.

What we see is 1100W connected between radiator and a circuit which is two
autotransformers aka variacs and then apparently two transformer primaries
in series, for left one he says resonant and this one also apparently has wires
going to the other side, God knows what he did, did he short primary and sec
or what.

If someone thinks i am making up that he wanted to give up just 1 year before
this great success, here is the whole comment discussion.

He is Дмитрий Божок aka Dmitry Bozhok

chiksat1
4 years agoundo
Hello, where did they disappear, did such good experiments,., and where did the video disappear, with this trance but in a large toroid, for heating, or is it already a commercial project, and therefore removed.

Mykhaylo Balush
4 years agoundo
chiksat1 Send me your email address and I'll reply...

Дмитрий Божок
3 years agotranslate
 @Mykhaylo Balush  dmitrij-bozhok@yandex.ru напишите, у меня тоже есть кое-какие наработки

Mykhaylo Balush
3 years ago (edited)undo
@Dmitry Bozhok, I am not even interested in my developments now ... Live in peace, why should you suffer: to invent, not to sleep at night ...

Дмитрий Божок
3 years agotranslate
 @Mykhaylo Balush it won’t work out calmly, since I’ve been doing this for 9 years

Mykhaylo Balush
3 years agoundo
@Dmitry Bozhok, You can do this all your life and achieve nothing. I gave up this occupation, I'm so calm now.

Дмитрий Божок
3 years agoundo
@Mykhaylo Balush then I realized, I myself am starting to come to this conclusion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkCeTFQgeRI

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #383 on: June 24, 2022, 01:02:40 AM »
Let's keep it clear.
so let's keep it clear.
Please provide the answer to my questions one by one:
no extra rhetorical mumbo-jumbo

I repeat the questions for you again:

please present the  answer for a few questions:
– what is that extra energy coming from?
– Please provide an article scientifically sound that supports your claim, can you?
– can you prove that this article has a false statement and why?
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/239852
 (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)

 :) Wesley

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #384 on: June 24, 2022, 01:30:29 AM »
Again you muddy the waters with pulp.

Question of where energy comes from has already been addressed so
stop pushing like a mule.

As for "article scientifically sound to prove"...makes me wonder why are you
here. Apparently you try to disprove overunity (don't get hang on terminology
again, no one cares how you call it) in name of supposed "science".

Again, keep it clear, don't dodge with irrelevant mumbo jumbo.

I repeat, answer

- Are you denying it is possible to pump up kilowatts of reactive power
in a transformer with small input?

- Are you denying high reactive power can then be used to tap into
exotic energy forms?


Answer in direct, objective, scientific manner.

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #385 on: June 24, 2022, 01:56:47 AM »
Question of where energy comes from has already been addressed
I asked clear question please provide clear answer:
– what is that extra energy coming from?
additional question:
– please describe energy conversion chain will respect to "LRC amplification," can you?
   that of course according to physics is a fiction in some Russians imagination.


you may also say I don't know it.
and by that the claim will be seen as pure fiction too.

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As for "article scientifically sound to prove"...makes me wonder why are you
here. Apparently you try to disprove overunity .

1. In civilized Western World we answered questions first before an attempt to question back.
    I'll address all of your questions after you answer my questions
    В цивилизованном западном мире мы сначала ответили на вопросы, прежде чем попытаться допросить.
    Я отвечу на все ваши вопросы после того, как вы ответите на мои вопросы



2.to read entire article please click on quoted text link below.
   Чтобы прочитать всю статью, нажмите на цитируемую текстовую ссылку.
here:
Overunity          -  doesn't exist  and will never exist and is laughable as a term.
Perpetual Motion-  is not important to us if was ever  in existence .. it is like spending 1 dollar to gain 1 dollar...
Free Energy       -  exist
But  of course ,that energy must have its  own origin too.and all of it is  because of  the LAW: 
Energy can't be created nor destroyed.

Wesley

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #386 on: June 24, 2022, 02:11:37 AM »
I love it how you just fell into your own trap, if you go back few pages in this
very thread where you first made the false claim that power amplification is
"impossible" in RLC tank after which i presented you the same evidence
that clearly shows you have no idea what you're saying, and asked you
essentially the same questions you never answered.

So, in accordance with civilized, western manners, instead of repeating like a
parrot question which has already been answered, answer the questions
you have been asked first and dodged since then.

- Are you denying it is possible to pump up kilowatts of reactive power
in a transformer with small input?

- Are you denying high reactive power can then be used to tap into
exotic energy forms?


Looking forward to your objective reply  ;D

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #387 on: June 24, 2022, 02:59:26 AM »
1. In civilized Western World we answered questions first before an attempt to question back.
    I'll address all of your questions after you answer my questions
    В цивилизованном западном мире мы сначала ответили на вопросы, прежде чем попытаться допросить.
    Я отвечу на все ваши вопросы после того, как вы ответите на мои вопросы

    У цивілізованому західному світі ми відповіли спочатку на запитання, перш ніж спробувати запитати. Я вирішу всі ваші запитання після того
    ja odpowiem na twoje pytania kiedy odpowiesz na moje

I said in 4 languages:
I'll provide the answer to all of your questions after you answer my questions. one by one.
here:
https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl/msg568293/#msg568293
Wesley

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #388 on: June 24, 2022, 03:42:43 AM »
Dodging ain't gonna help you.

Answer the questions i been asking you ever since you made the
claim that power cannot be amplified in parallel RLC tank.

- Are you denying it is possible to pump up kilowatts of reactive power
in a transformer with small input?

- Are you denying high reactive power can then be used to tap into
exotic energy forms?



English will be enough. ;D

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Re: Reactive Current - Parallel RCL
« Reply #389 on: June 24, 2022, 03:54:36 AM »
Nix
If your above reference is a claim of anomalous gain ( more out than in)?
Your in the right place !


Please share the experiment ( empirical evidence)
There are hundreds who wait to replicate!!


If your evidence is someone’s you tube ?
Or hearsay ( they said it works etc etc)


We could spend decades just watching all such claims on YouTube ( nonsense claims)


Would be better to answer Wesley’s simple questions
And move forward!
Or
Please share the OU ( free Energy) experiment for your readers
To replicate here ( the only way forward IMO
Respectfully
Chet K